Gallup: Conservatives Are Single Largest Ideological Group

2009 June 15
by bc3b

PRINCETON, NJ — Thus far in 2009, 40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004. The 21% calling themselves liberal is in line with findings throughout this decade, but is up from the 1990s.

The survey indicates that conservatives lead every age group except 20-29.

Yes, but according to Colin Powell, Mike Murphy, David Frum and assorted RINOs in the Republican establishment, conservatives can’t win and must swing to the left to gain power. What are you going to believe, the facts or so-called experts?

It’s kind on like a football team being one player away from competing for the Super Bowl and scrapping the offensive and defensive strategies and starting anew rather than trying to pick up that missing player.

82 Responses leave one →
  1. 2009 June 15 8:46 am
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    bc3b permalink

    This is one Gallup Survey that won’t gain much traction in MSM or David Frum’s New Minority.

  2. 2009 June 15 8:55 am
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    aureliusx permalink

    No sympathy for the “conservatives” out there who did not vote or voted 3rd party, or the few who got their jollies voting for Obama. None at all.

    How do you like your country now?

    Morons. Use your vote or you deserve to have every principle you hold dear shattered. No sympathy at all from me.

    We withdraw. We are Galt.

    Oh no, where did your tax revenue go? Why did all the hiring slow down? Why did America go from being strong and disliked to being weak and disrespected? Why oh why?

    We withdraw. We are Galt.

  3. 2009 June 15 8:58 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    aureliusx,

    So the RNC running Olympia Snowe for President in 2012 is ok by you?

    If Snowe is the RNC choice then YES I will vote third party and no regrets.

  4. 2009 June 15 8:59 am
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    aureliusx permalink

    enjoy your obama.

  5. 2009 June 15 9:03 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    I didn’t vote for the idiot. I voted for the other idiot. Purely a defensive gesture as I really didn’t like either candidate.

    But then you dodged my question.

  6. 2009 June 15 9:06 am
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    phineas gage permalink

    We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.

    The battle is on for the future of the GOP. If the elites win and nominate a RINO, it will be time for conservatism to finally move on.

    Personally, I don’t think that will happen. I am expecting the dark ages of the marxist to catalyze a conservative renaissance.

    But we will have to wait and see. Right now the focus should be on 2010. It’s our only hope to stop what is happening now. If we don’t make stand there, nothing that comes after will matter.

  7. 2009 June 15 9:08 am
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    chekote permalink

    Another meaningless poll. I consider myself a conservative, even though most people here would disagree. Frum, Andrew Sullivan, Kathleen Parker, David Brooks, they all consider themselves conservatives.

  8. 2009 June 15 9:10 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    PG, my round about point exactly!

  9. 2009 June 15 9:11 am
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    chekote permalink

    If we don’t make stand there, nothing that comes after will matter.

    I haven’t checked all the news this morning, but have the Republicans jumped on Biden’s statements regarding “everybody being wrong about the stimulus”? I mean if that isn’t a hanging curve ……

  10. 2009 June 15 9:20 am
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    “Right now the focus should be on 2010.”

    Bingo. Even so though since the democrats are still positioned to pick up senate seats the only real block is to take back the house or make the margin so thin it has the same effect. While I do see some improvements on the horizon I don’t see either of those happening at this point.

  11. 2009 June 15 9:22 am
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    phineas gage permalink

    ‘Frum, Andrew Sullivan, Kathleen Parker, David Brooks, they all consider themselves conservatives’

    What we have here is….failure….to communicate.

  12. 2009 June 15 9:23 am
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    phineas gage permalink

    ‘While I do see some improvements on the horizon I don’t see either of those happening at this point’

    The longest journey starts with a single step.

  13. 2009 June 15 9:24 am
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    phineas gage permalink

    External events have a tendency of disrupting the best-laid political plans.

    I expect that to start happening with the marxist.

    Things are starting to pop around the world.

  14. 2009 June 15 9:25 am
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    mulletover permalink

    Conservatives or otherwise, I am praying that enough blue dogs and moderates step up and stop this lunge into socialism via health care and energy. We can all retire to our partisan corners going into 2010.

    Right now, I am looking for good Americans.

    ……of whom Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are not.

  15. 2009 June 15 9:27 am
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    “External events have a tendency of disrupting the best-laid political plans.”

    They do indeed and it’s a two way street, we shall see, I remain skeptical of the ‘voters’.

  16. 2009 June 15 9:39 am
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    janzam permalink

    Stocks fall as dollar pushes oil, commodities down
    06/15/09 12:15EDT
    NEW YORK -Investors are worrying that a three-month surge in stocks is overdone.

    One of the indexes that has been giving a lift to Obama’s economic plans has been the stock market continuously pushing upward. Many of us have felt it was a “sucker’s rally,” and today a few more people are thinking it might have been an artificial surge.

    If the stock market weakens, Iran becomes more unstable, if there are cracks of dissention in getting universial health care through, if unemployment increases, if N. Korea becomes even more emboldened, the people will become more restless and Obama glib and snappy Rx’s will start to lose their appeal.

    I don’t believe the dims will be able to respond to all the crisises that are hovering on the horizon.

  17. 2009 June 15 9:48 am
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    chekote permalink

    blue dogs are a sham.

  18. 2009 June 15 9:52 am
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    bc3b permalink

    chekote wrote:

    “Another meaningless poll. I consider myself a conservative, even though most people here would disagree. Frum, Andrew Sullivan, Kathleen Parker, David Brooks, they all consider themselves conservatives.”

    Comments:

    “Another meaningless poll” (Translation: anything that doesn’t support my view is meaningless)

    “I consider myself a conservative.” (Just a few weeks ago you agreed you were not a conservative. You claimed to be a Federalist. Before that it was a neo-con. You switch positions more often than Rudy and Newt switch wives. The most consistent thing about you is your inconsistency.)

    “… even though most people here would disagree.” (Everyone except you and Brandon. Give Brandon five years.)

    “Frum, Andrew Sullivan, Kathleen Parker, David Brooks, they all consider themselves conservatives.” (I doubt that true conservatives view any of this trash as conservative. Parker has done everything for Obama except perform a Monica Lewinsky. I wouldn’t be surprised if she did that too. Maybe when she flew with him aboard AF1 to Chicago. Frum used to be a socialist. Brooks is the House Republican for the NYT. He can’t go “off the reservation” or he loses his job like Kristol. Sullivan’s gayness overrides anything else.).

  19. 2009 June 15 10:01 am
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    janzam permalink

    Angry at the MSM? Watch this video, featuring AlfonZo Rachael. It’s a kick, and especially aimed at the “youth.”

    http://www.pjtv.com/video/ZoNation/AlfonZo_Rachel_Presents%3A_Letterman%2C_Palin_and_a_Topless_Drew_Barrymore/2026/

  20. 2009 June 15 10:02 am
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    bc3b permalink

    Janzam –

    Zo is great.

  21. 2009 June 15 10:02 am
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    BCL permalink

  22. 2009 June 15 10:06 am
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    janzam permalink

    bc3b

    Never seen this “Zo” guy before. But, he says it like it is, without holding back. I really liked him in that clip!

  23. 2009 June 15 10:16 am
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    JustMary permalink

    You have never seen Zo?!?!?!? I love that guy! I will have to post a couple of his older videos for you before he was on pjtv. My honest hope is that he runs for some kind of office one day.

  24. 2009 June 15 10:16 am
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    bc3b permalink

    Zo is great. So is Steven Crowder. They both have a number of videos on youtube. Check them out. You’ll enjoy both of them.

  25. 2009 June 15 10:19 am
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    bc3b permalink

    JustMary wrote:

    “You have never seen Zo?!?!?!? I love that guy! I will have to post a couple of his older videos for you before he was on pjtv. My honest hope is that he runs for some kind of office one day.”

    I would say that Zo would make a good head of the RNC, but if I did some would label me as a hater and a racist. So, I won’t.

  26. 2009 June 15 10:20 am
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    JustMary permalink

  27. 2009 June 15 10:21 am
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    chekote permalink

    BC

    Doesn’t matter whether you think Frum is not a conservative. He regards himself as such and would answer the poll accordingly.

  28. 2009 June 15 10:22 am
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    JustMary permalink

  29. 2009 June 15 10:23 am
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    janzam permalink

    Remember how much was made of Alberto Gonzalez after the dismissal of 7 US Attorneys — a common practice of previous presidents?

    Well now we have Gerald Walpin’s firing….

    Walpin learned his fate Wednesday night. He was driving to an event in upstate New York when he received a call from Norman Eisen, the Special Counsel to the President for Ethics and Government Reform. “He said, ‘Mr. Walpin, the president wants me to tell you that he really appreciates your service, but it’s time to move on,'” Walpin recalls. “Eisen said, ‘You can either resign, or I’ll tell you that we’ll have to terminate you.'”

    The method of Walpin’s firing could be a violation of the 2008 Inspectors General Reform Act, which requires the president to give Congress 30 days’ notice, plus an explanation of cause, before firing an inspector general. Then-Sen. Barack Obama was a co-sponsor of that legislation. In the case of Walpin, Eisen’s efforts to force Walpin to resign could be seen as an effort to push Walpin out of his job so that the White House would not have to go through the 30-day process or give a reason for its action. When Walpin refused to quit, the White House informed Congress and began the 30-day countdown.

    Gerald Walpin speaks: The inside story of the AmeriCorps firing

    Who wants to bet this, unlike Gonzalez, will just slip under the rug, along with all the other Obama misdeeds?

  30. 2009 June 15 10:31 am
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    bc3b permalink

    “Frum, Andrew Sullivan, Kathleen Parker, David Brooks, they all consider themselves conservatives.”

    I seriously doubt that any of these people spend much time outside the Beltway or West of the Hudson. If they do, I doubt that they talk with common everyday conservatives who are worried about paying their balls, controlling the growth of government or have not attended elite colleges.

    By following the advice of people like these or Mike Murphy, Steve Schmidt, George Will, Bill Bennett, Kevin Madden, etc. the GOP will lose more of its base than it will attract from the squishy middle.

    Most of them are primarily interested in having the right friends and being invited to the right parties (or bath houses) and would sell their souls to do so.

    We need to pick up 11% and the most likely place for that is from middle class America (which may be easy considering the positions Zero has taken).

  31. 2009 June 15 10:35 am
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    bc3b permalink

    Here’s Steven Crowder’s site:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/StevenCrowder?blend=2&ob=1

  32. 2009 June 15 10:41 am
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    janzam permalink

    Great site, bc3b! Why haven’t I seen these guys before.

    Their irony really gets the point of MSM bias across well….and, they’re much more fun to watch than, let’s say, a David Letterman!

  33. 2009 June 15 10:42 am
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    JustMary permalink

    I follow both of them on Twitter now, but have followed their videos for a while. I prefer Zo to Steven, but they are both awesome!

  34. 2009 June 15 11:39 am
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    aureliusx permalink

    Drdog, I’d love to see Sarah as the GOP nominee, but would I vote for Snowe over Obama? Hmm.. let me think for an attosecond. Yes. I would also vote for Howard the Duck over Obama, he would do less damage.

    How great would Palin vs Obama be… epic.

  35. 2009 June 15 11:54 am
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    aureliusx permalink

    NRO thinks it will be Romney over Obama in 2012.

    they say “GOP picks whoever is next in line”.

    Not sure but I think Sarah is at least tied with Romney in terms of being in line.

  36. 2009 June 15 12:01 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    It appears that Mitt Romney is the choice of the GOP Establishment (which includes NRO).

  37. 2009 June 15 12:34 pm
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    “How great would Palin vs Obama be… epic.”

    Careful what you wish for.

    “It appears that Mitt Romney is the choice of the GOP Establishment (which includes NRO).


    He would appear to be the early favorite at this point in time, could change.

  38. 2009 June 15 1:00 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Maybe this is where Conservatives can employ their energies!

    After the Tea Parties

  39. 2009 June 15 1:17 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Hatch, Bennett Get Cold Reception at Utah GOP Convention

    Hatch’s 2008 ACU rating is 80; Bennett’s is only 64.

    Have “grass roots” conservative Republicans finally had enough?

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705310371/Hatch-Bennett-get-not-so-warm-welcome.html?pg=1

  40. 2009 June 15 1:21 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    “BC

    Doesn’t matter whether you think Frum is not a conservative. He regards himself as such and would answer the poll accordingly.”

    I can claim I’m a liberal Democrat, but that doesn’t make me one.

    Frum spends even more of his time bashing conservatives than I spend bashing Frum.

  41. 2009 June 15 1:22 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    One of the indexes that has been giving a lift to Obama’s economic plans has been the stock market continuously pushing upward. Many of us have felt it was a “sucker’s rally,” and today a few more people are thinking it might have been an artificial surge. — janzam

    Actually I call this the ‘dropping dollar rallye’. Companies have certain fundamentals in their cost structure. Actual dollars costs for replacement of the existing corporate infrastructure inflate then the perceived value of the current infrastructure also goes up. A BigMac in 1985 was a $1.25, that same BigMac now is $2.75. Same with company stock.

  42. 2009 June 15 1:24 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    janzam,

    I have been following the Walprin thing with some interest. Most likely it will slip quietly away. Even if it doesn’t and turns into a minor scandal, ‘O’ won’t be touched. They’ll say Axelrod or some other WH flunky did it ‘without authorization’.

  43. 2009 June 15 1:25 pm
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    justrand permalink

    just watched the Zo clip from up above…it’s AWESOME!!!

    p.s. the Iranian people seem like they actually mean business…unlike our cowardly “President”.

    Budapest, 1956
    Prague, 1968
    Tehran, 2009??

  44. 2009 June 15 1:31 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Drdog, I’d love to see Sarah as the GOP nominee, but would I vote for Snowe over Obama? Hmm.. let me think for an attosecond. Yes. I would also vote for Howard the Duck over Obama, he would do less damage. — aureliusx

    Hmm. Do you buy your clothes based on labels? That is about what you are admitting to. Or at least how I am perceiving your response. In my mind Obama == Snowe. That equation would work even if they changed parties. At some point when you can’t tell the difference apart, its time to move on.

    Would I love to see Palin vs Obama. You bet. Fact if the RNC does not have her stumping for critical elections in 2010 they are fools.

  45. 2009 June 15 1:31 pm
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    janzam permalink

    bc3b

    I am happy to see some of these long-time Republicans being taken to task by their continuency.

    No matter whether one has been in office one year or thirty, they are always representatives of those who elect them.

    So, I think questioning “our” representatives just shows an engaged public…and, people like Hatch should be grateful and view such questions as opportunities to clarify their positions.

  46. 2009 June 15 1:33 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    janzam wrote:

    “Great site, bc3b! Why haven’t I seen these guys before.”

    If they were liberals, I am sure you would have seen them on network TV.

    FNC had a show, I believe it was called the Half Hour News Hour, on for a while. It was a parody of network news. Unfortunately, it only lasted a couple of months, but was far more fun to watch than Whore-aldo, Hannity or the Huckster.

  47. 2009 June 15 1:35 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    JR,

    My next door neighbor is expat Iranian and his take is that the fix was in months before the election. But Obama could screw this up.

  48. 2009 June 15 1:37 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Janzam wrote:

    “I am happy to see some of these long-time Republicans being taken to task by their continuency.”

    Since Bennett is up for re-election in 2010 (and has 5 potential primary opponents), I am sure we will be seeing him move to the right (at least until the election is over). If we take a couple of long-time RINOs, out the rest of the herd will be flip-flopping like Romney.

    It’s called culling the herd.

  49. 2009 June 15 1:39 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    “…view such questions as opportunities to clarify their positions.” — janzam

    Hmmm. You know, I think a good chunk of the populace is beyond ‘clarifying positions’. They are into outright — Our Way or the Highway — as to what they want. That fat 40% number should be a clue to a lot of Pols that their lives could end in a unsettling primary challenge.

  50. 2009 June 15 1:39 pm
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    HHNH was hilarious, I don’t know why they didn’t continue that it. Then again they sort of do that with red eye, not nearly the same, but it’s tough for fox to work anything of 30min. into it’s lineup, and weekend nights don’t really draw ratings.

  51. 2009 June 15 1:40 pm
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    “But Obama could screw this up.” – he’s not going to get anywhere near it, apparently the administration staff will not even discuss it off the record or on background.

  52. 2009 June 15 1:47 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Wait! I thought Obammy was going to talk to the Iranians without preconditions. What would an election have to do with that stance?

    KH, just playing devils advocate.

  53. 2009 June 15 1:51 pm
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    “Wait! I thought Obammy was going to talk to the Iranians without preconditions”

    Just amadinnerjacket or the mullahs, certainly not the oppressed citizens of Iran seeking hope and change though.

  54. 2009 June 15 1:53 pm
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    Not to worry when this turns out badly (and I don’t really see how it doesn’t – I hope otherwise) this will be Bush’s fault too.

  55. 2009 June 15 1:58 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Sign post to banana republichood. —

    The Treasury Department said Monday that net purchases of stocks, notes and bonds obtained by foreigners fell to $11.2 billion in April, from $55.4 billion in March.

    China, the largest holder of U.S. Treasury securities, trimmed its holdings to $763.5 billion in April, from $767.9 billion in March. Japan, the second largest holder of Treasury securities, reduced its holdings to $685.9 billion, from $686.7 billion a month earlier.

    source

    I guess Obama was right — HE (the feds) are broke.

  56. 2009 June 15 2:00 pm
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    Glenn covering the IG firing tonight, only one I know on tv who’s even mentioned it.

  57. 2009 June 15 2:02 pm
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    I don’t know if the Japan drop is of note… just flux perhaps, the rest though is surely of note.

  58. 2009 June 15 2:25 pm
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    aureliusx permalink

    “How great would Palin vs Obama be… epic.”

    Careful what you wish for.

    Yes KH, I know the risks.

    I also would like to see this country presented with a real stark choice and see what they do. The waters were so muddied in 2008.

    I want to know the backbone of the country, to see if the basic moral fiber is still there, to know if I should bleed for this country, or join the feeding frenzy.

    Bleed or feed. Sarah or Obama. Can’t ask for more than that.

    Let’s find out.

  59. 2009 June 15 2:26 pm
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    janzam permalink

    I thought the following article would be of interest to bc3b!

    The left is telling us something many feel, many find as a hunch, that Sarah Palin is the most dangerous threat to the Obama administration with no close second. The left is telling us this by their “over the top” attacks. Not just the Letterman assaults, but the constant barrage of grievances filed against her in Alaska. The attacks every day on Palin for no apparent reason — except that the left seems to see her quite differently from any Republican candidate. A difference of kind, not of degree.

    Sarah Palin, the 21st century ‘It’ girl

  60. 2009 June 15 2:29 pm
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    “I also would like to see this country presented with a real stark choice and see what they do. ”

    So would I, just don’t know our if our best presentation of that in 2011\2012 will be represented in Palin. Time will tell.

  61. 2009 June 15 3:02 pm
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    chekote permalink

    I jus have one thing to say: “Hungry markets”.

  62. 2009 June 15 3:03 pm
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    chekote permalink

    I thought the following article would be of interest to bc3b!

    He ain’t interested unless there are pictures.

  63. 2009 June 15 3:05 pm
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    chekote permalink

    There is an important distinction in the respective ideological compositions of the Republican and Democratic Parties. While a solid majority of Republicans are on the same page — 73% call themselves conservative — Democrats are more of a mixture. The major division among Democrats is between self-defined moderates (40%) and liberals (38%). However, an additional 22% of Democrats consider themselves conservative, much higher than the 3% of Republicans identifying as liberal.

    22% of Democrats consider themselves conservatives. That’s interesting. The Dems are definately the big tent ideologically.

  64. 2009 June 15 3:07 pm
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    chekote permalink

    “I consider myself a conservative.” (Just a few weeks ago you agreed you were not a conservative. You claimed to be a Federalist. Before that it was a neo-con. You switch positions more often than Rudy and Newt switch wives. The most consistent thing about you is your inconsistency.)

    In a poll where the choices are liberal, conservative or moderate, I would go for conservative. I am a federalist on domestic issues and a neocon on foreign policy. It is not that I am inconsistent. It is just you can’t read. “Hungry markets”.

  65. 2009 June 15 3:27 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Just as many moderates (and some so-called conservative Democrats) became Democrats because of George Bush, I believe the Republicans can enjoy the same benefit from Barack Obama’s policies and persona in 2010 and 2012.

    By the very definition of the word “moderates” have very few stringly ingrained beliefs and principles. Moderates often times vote for what they believe to be popular.

    The Democrats gained the so-called moderate vote in 2006 and 2008 not by becoming more moderate (in fact, they nominated the most extreme major party candidate in recent history) but by being not-George Bush and not the Republicans.

    Conservatives can win in 2012 by being “anybody but Obama.” Or, if by some chance, he is successful, we’re not going to win any way. Since the country elected a black man in 2008, it’s kind of hard to throw “racism” out there although I am sure the liberals in partnership with MSM will try.

  66. 2009 June 15 3:45 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Funny thing happened on the way to the plantation —

    The economic recovery plan includes a nice little $25 a week bump for unemployed folks — but for some it comes with a catch — they no longer qualify for hundreds of dollars a month in food stamp benefits. Whoopsies!

    It seems that when the government raised the unemployment benefits — they forgot to raise the income cap for food stamp eligibility — and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.

    source

    Well that’s ONE WAY to reduce government costs! Remember THEY want to run health care too….

  67. 2009 June 15 3:46 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Janzam –

    Here are the losing VP candidates since 1960:
    – Lodge
    – Miller
    – Muskie
    – Shriver
    – Dole
    – Mondale
    – Ferraro
    – Bentsen
    – Quayle
    – Kemp
    – Lieberman
    – Edwards
    – Palin

    How many remained in the spotlight 10 months after the election ended? How many could fill a major arena after the election was over? How many overshadowed the presidential candidate on their ticket? How many were the constant target of opponents both in the opposition and the candidates party months after the election?

    One interesting thing about the attacks of the left, the “GOP establishment and those that simply live to hate Sarah Palin. The attacks are always personal and no one ever wants to discuss her record as governor.

    Sarah Palin scares the $h!t out of the left and the “good old boys” in the GOP establishment (and for good reason).

  68. 2009 June 15 4:05 pm
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    aureliusx permalink

    Palin shows the left is wrong by her very existence. They know and hate her for it.

    Palin v Obama 2012.

    Bring it. I want it. I can almost taste it.

  69. 2009 June 15 4:08 pm
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    “Funny thing happened on the way to the plantation –”

    But I thought Obama was so detail oriented?

    Hmm I wonder if giving congress more than 12-24 hours to read the bill would have helped find that “glitch”. Nahhhh

  70. 2009 June 15 4:15 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Obama “sweet talking” the AMA today, was not received too well because of his stance of not supporting a ceiling on malpractice cases.

    In a country desparately needing tort reform, Obama is siding with the lawyers and sending the very costs he wants reduced upward, as Doctors will have to pay even more for malpractice, which they will pass along to their consumers.

    The boos erupted when Obama told the doctors in Chicago he wouldn’t try to help them win their top legislative priority—limits on jury damages in medical malpractice cases.

    But what could they expect? If Obama announced support for malpractice limits, that would set trial lawyers and unions—major supporters of Democratic candidates—on the attack. Not to mention consumer groups.

    Tough road for Obama on his universial health care plan

    I hope………..

  71. 2009 June 15 4:35 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    With the exception of a Supreme Court that he packs, Obama may be the best thing that happened to censervatives since Reagan.

    The key questions are:
    1. How much of the damage can be undone?
    2. How long will it take?

  72. 2009 June 15 4:54 pm
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    aureliusx permalink

    I just want to know. That’s all.

    If Obama beats Palin in 2012, I will grieve for my country, the America I knew. The painstakingly built, fought for, designed, and defended, first and last bastion of true freedom the world has ever known, in the long march of human history.

    I will grieve, reflect, and then move on.

    Better to know sooner than later.

    Let’s set it up. Push all the chips to the center of the table. I want to know if this is a country worth committing my children to.

  73. 2009 June 15 4:56 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Just keep working for what you believe in until you are removed by the state. Then you can say you did all you could.

  74. 2009 June 15 5:08 pm
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    aureliusx permalink

    I will stop fighting when the battle is definitively lost. That could be Nov. 2012.

  75. 2009 June 15 5:24 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Letterman to apologize to Palin tonight.

    Does this mean the “Fire Letterman” protest tomorrow is canceled? Aw. Exit question: What really motivated Letterman to do this? Sincere remorse? A cynical play for more ratings? Or the simple fact that he was starting to lose sponsors over it?

    …again(?)

  76. 2009 June 15 5:41 pm
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    “Sincere remorse?”

    LOL. Did you read the new multi paragraph non-apology apology? It’s only slightly better than the last but as I said at hedgehog…. time to pocket the win and move on to the next target for now.

  77. 2009 June 15 6:07 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Well here is the advertiser that pulled out —

    David Letterman’s comments about Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and one of her daughters has prompted a hotel chain to pull its advertising on CBS’ website — and spawned a campaign to fire the Late Show host that includes a planned protest outside his studio.

    Embassy Suites, part of the Hilton Hotels Corp., pulled advertising on CBS’ site because of complaints, company spokeswoman Kendra Walker told TVGuide.com. The company was not an advertiser on Letterman’s show.

    “We received lots of e-mails from concerned guests and we assessed that the statement that he made was offensive enough to our guests and prospective guests that we elected to take the ads down,” Walker said. She declined to release the cost of the ads.

    source

    I think I might be booking Embassy more often in the future. Any Corp that reads complaints and responds has my dollar.

  78. 2009 June 15 6:22 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    janzam,

    ‘O’ really isn’t much of a strategic thinker. On health care where does he thing this all leads? Paradise? Maybe. Here’s my take –

    * Health care reform passes. Its medicare for everyone.
    * Costs escalate. In a effort to contain them govt institutes rationing.
    * Costs continue to go up. Medical professionals are paid too much is the cry. So now every one of them is a G something pay rate employee of the government.
    * A court case goes all the way to SCOTUS. The issues revolves around sovereign immunity and whether malpractice claims can even be brought against the government. SCOTUS references european law as to the practice. Malpractice is essentially eliminated.
    * Trial lawyers take it in the a$$.

    As do we all….

  79. 2009 June 15 6:45 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Drdog

    Interesting play sheet of events you concocted. It could happen that way if O’s health care plan passes. But, I am thinking more and more that there is too much opposition building.

    The AMA has now registered their concerns, being better late than never.

    As people start applying the health care to themselves, that obama is supporting, I think it will appear less and less desirable.

    Politicians, in the meantime, are scrambling to find alternative plans, like a private cooperative plan that was hawked on the Sunday shows.

  80. 2009 June 15 6:56 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    janzam, you could be as right as I am of course. I really hope it does not pass. Period.

    The ‘uninsured’ is not some 49m people as is concocted by many in the media. Most are in transition from one job to another. And many don’t even want insurance.

  81. 2009 June 15 7:09 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Yeah, Drdog, the uninsured are divided into three groups — those in transition, the very young who normally don’t even carry health insurance, and ??? can’t remember the third group.

    But, as usual, that original number of 49 mil is very misleading, as it usually is when a dim uses a statistic to make a point.

  82. 2009 June 16 4:23 am
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    mulletover permalink

    janzam ~~ ??? can’t remember the third group.

    Illegals

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