Iran Update: Troops, Police Patrolling Streets

2009 June 22
by bc3b

Here’s the latest on Iran fron Fox News.

129 Responses leave one →
  1. 2009 June 22 9:42 am
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    chekote permalink

    While our president defend the covering of women’s head, Sarkozy leads the fight for women’s rights:

    Sarkozy says burqas are ‘not welcome’ in France

    In our country, we cannot accept that women be prisoners behind a screen, cut off from all social life, deprived of all identity,” Sarkozy said to extended applause at the Chateau of Versailles, southwest of Paris.

    “The burqa is not a religious sign, it’s a sign of subservience, a sign of debasement — I want to say it solemnly,” he said. “It will not be welcome on the territory of the French Republic.”

  2. 2009 June 22 9:58 am
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    justrand permalink

    chekote, for out entire lives we got used to ridiculing France for their limp-wristed approach to world affairs. They essentially hid behind American and NATO strength, and from behind that shield they thumbed their noses at us! Meanwhile, with the exception of Carter, we always at least TALKED tough…and usually WERE tough.

    Now Sarkozy realizes France cannot count on us or anyone for their defense…and he is showing a strength and confidence that is frankly amazing. His statement about the burqa is spot-on! It IS “a sign of subservience”…all pretense to the contrary is just that!

    Meanwhile we have someone who has promised to DEFEND a women’s “right” to wear the burqa! Geez.

    France has a leader who appears willing to fight for his country…America has a “leader” who is busy surrendering his country!

  3. 2009 June 22 10:02 am
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    phineas gage permalink

    France must have cut a deal with someone else for their oil.

  4. 2009 June 22 10:06 am
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    bc3b permalink

    I read that Chekote. Bush wasn’t much better as he was constantly referring to Islam as the Religion of Peace and having sensitivity training administered by CAIR. Islam is far different than any other religion that has ever come to thie country and I don’t think we are the better nfor including it as part of our diversity.

    Sarkozy and Merkel are making far more sense than our leaders.

  5. 2009 June 22 10:10 am
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    janzam permalink

    From niacINsight blog:

    According to unconfirmed reports in Balatarin [Farsi] , Gen. Ali Fazli, the head of revolutionary guards in Tehran, has been arrested after refusing to execute Khamenei’s order of using force against demonstrators in Tehran. He is a war veteran who lost an eye during the Iran-Iraq war. (h/t Boushveg)

    If this is true, it could be significant that the head of the Revolutionary Guard is rebuking Khamenei, thus siding with the people.

  6. 2009 June 22 10:10 am
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    bc3b permalink

    “France must have cut a deal with someone else for their oil.”

    We can provide a lot more for our use and the use of our allies. There’s ANWR, off the coast of California and Florida. It’s strange when the Chinese can drill in the Caribbean and we can’t.

  7. 2009 June 22 10:19 am
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    janzam permalink

    This is scary. I hope such invasion of the net hasn’t or doesn’t happen in this country!

    The Iranian regime has developed, with the assistance of European telecommunications companies, one of the world’s most sophisticated mechanisms for controlling and censoring the Internet, allowing it to examine the content of individual online communications on a massive scale.

    Interviews with technology experts in Iran and outside the country say Iranian efforts at monitoring Internet information go well beyond blocking access to Web sites or severing Internet connections.

    Instead, in confronting the political turmoil that has consumed the country this past week, the Iranian government appears to be engaging in a practice often called deep packet inspection, which enables authorities to not only block communication but to monitor it to gather information about individuals, as well as alter it for disinformation purposes, according to these experts.

    Iran’s web spying…

  8. 2009 June 22 10:56 am
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    chekote permalink

    Bush wasn’t much better as he was constantly referring to Islam as the Religion of Peace and having sensitivity training administered by CAIR.

    How true!!!! Sadly. Multiculturalism is fine but not at the expense of fundamental American values.

  9. 2009 June 22 11:24 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Psst, janzam. The NSA and CIA have had the means for years. Deep packet analysis is not that hard if you have the compute power to do it.

  10. 2009 June 22 11:51 am
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    janzam permalink

    drdog, I am just a humble, ignorant laywoman on such matters.

  11. 2009 June 22 11:59 am
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    phineas gage permalink

    The government can just stay the hell away from analyzing my packet.

  12. 2009 June 22 12:18 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Am hearing that the Iran crackdown is aimed at narrowing, diluting the crowds.

    People are instructed to keep moving and not walk together, even at train stations.

    Journalists are told to stay in their hotel rooms, and no one from the outside to come in.

    There is an attempt at a total lockdown of news and and public congregations, no matter how small.

    This might break the back of the rebellion — no weapons, constrained communication, and no ability to publically congregate.

  13. 2009 June 22 12:23 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    It’s been snuffed.

    Now President Butter Pecan will get his precious White House meeting with Dinner Jacket.

  14. 2009 June 22 12:24 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    And millions of Iranians will continue to suffer in tyranny.

    For all of his faults, President did liberate over fifty million people.

    He would not have stayed silent on the sidelines.

  15. 2009 June 22 12:24 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    oops, that should be President Bush. Obviously.

  16. 2009 June 22 12:36 pm
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    janzam permalink

    PG — I do believe that Obama is becoming “damaged goods,” for how he has reacted to the Iranian protests. He is not respected by Admadinejad/Khamenei, some of the world leaders, and as one headline said, has “wilting” approval from his own peeps.

    As a side note —> an interesting piece by Salon; a human interest type story of a reporter mingling in the crowd during the weekend’s uprising. His discription of the people policing is detailed and instructive.

    Basijis. The lesser cousin of the police, they are the more serious of the two. For the cops it’s a job, and so far at least their hearts don’t seem to be in it. For these basijis, it’s their reason to be. They bring an enthusiasm to their “work” that only an ardent hobbyist can. As a member of my family notes, this is their good time. They don’t screw, they don’t drink or smoke pot (bet you didn’t know that went on in Iran). What else are they going to do with all of that energy? For 360 days of the year basijis don’t do shit, but for the past week …

    Tehran dispatch

    H/T HotAir

  17. 2009 June 22 1:11 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    I just watched an FNC special report on Iran. Have Shep Smith do it trivializes it (at least in my mind).

  18. 2009 June 22 1:16 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Severe earthquake in Alaska a few hours ago. I expect Sarah Palin will get blamed for it in 5 … 4 … 3 … 2 …

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528162,00.html

  19. 2009 June 22 1:16 pm
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    justrand permalink

    i don’t believe it has been snuffed…yet. there a nationwide strike set for tomorrow. IF that strike materializes then the government will be forced, once again, to respond harshly.

    If, on the other hand, the strike fizzles, then the Iranian people get 20+ more years of slavery…and Immadinnerjacket gets his ass kissed at the White House!

    not much hope left

  20. 2009 June 22 1:26 pm
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    janzam permalink

    The strike has been in the works for a few days now. It is another tier of the revolution; different than calling for big crowds to gather in the streets in peaceful solidarity.

    So, if this alternative tactic works, then I think you are right, Justrand, about the Iranian revolution continuing to have viability.

    The more I read, though, the greater I understand the low odds for unarmed, basically leaderless people to make the leap of change they dearly are calling for.

    My heart goes out to them….

  21. 2009 June 22 1:39 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    It will be interesting to see how the strike goes. Fox News reports Obama was moved by the videos of the protests. He actually took time to view then durung the U.S. Open playoff commercials.

    He was moved, but not as much as by Tiger Woods not winning the U.S. Open.

  22. 2009 June 22 1:43 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    SC Gov. Mark Sanford Is Mysteriously Missing:

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D98VUKO00&show_article=1

  23. 2009 June 22 1:45 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Geez BC — I am moved to hear Obama took the time off from golf and ice cream to check in on the suffereing in Iran.

    What a guy!

    And, the left used to have a fit when Bush took time off to go to his Western WH, Crawford!

  24. 2009 June 22 1:46 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    ‘…smoke pot…’

    I thought it was hashish that the Persians smoke–isn’t that the basis of the term ‘assassin’? Killers hopped up on dope?

    Thanks, jan, for all of the useful links and updates you have provided.

  25. 2009 June 22 1:48 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    SC Gov. Mark Sanford Is Mysteriously Missing:

    What kind of relationship does he have with his wife? If I disappeared for four days without telling my wife, there would be a…..rather different reaction.

  26. 2009 June 22 1:52 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    He has four boys Marshall, Landon, Bolton, and Blake. Don’t know their ages. Sanford is 48, so I suspect one or more is still at home. Strange, considering it was Father’s Day weekend.

  27. 2009 June 22 1:53 pm
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    janzam permalink

    “Your welcome” back, PG. I am surprising myself at how riveted I am on what is going on in Iran.

    The big lesson being projected, loud and clear, is how weakened a populace becomes when unarmed.

  28. 2009 June 22 2:10 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    Michael Ledeen on Medved right now……..

  29. 2009 June 22 2:28 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Apparently Sanford has left a message that he’s okay. Strange. If I took off for four days without telling my wife, I’d have a Louisville Slugger welcome waiting for me.

  30. 2009 June 22 3:35 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Apparently the Shia have a tradition of morning the death of martyrs after 3, 7 and 40 days. I suspect that in 40 days we will have a huge outpouring for Neda.

  31. 2009 June 22 3:37 pm
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    Brandon permalink

    I was thinking of doing a sort of daily polling round-up and posting it on here every evening. Maybe I can even e-mail it to one of the main contributors and they can make it a thread. Any thoughts?

  32. 2009 June 22 3:43 pm
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    conservativetony permalink

    Brandon, what will it include? Daily pres tracking? Senate races? House? Gov?

  33. 2009 June 22 3:46 pm
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    Brandon permalink

    I was thinking both Rasmussen(I have the Rasmussen premium so I get the crosstabs of each poll) and Gallup daily presidential tracking polls, any public policy poll by Rasmussen(like the one posted earlier) that would be of interest, senate, house, governorships, etc. Basically any polling data that I can find that was released during the day. Also, I was thinking of having a little discussion blurb after each result, explaining what it means, comparing trends, and what might happen as a result.

  34. 2009 June 22 3:47 pm
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    chekote permalink

    I think it is a good idea. I also think that Brandon should gives us the “youth” point of view by posting threads.

  35. 2009 June 22 3:47 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    What kind of relationship does he have with his wife? If I disappeared for four days without telling my wife, there would be a…..rather different reaction.

    heh. Yeah I would not expect hugs and kisses, and other lovely sweetness, after something like that. I better be a hostage somewhere, or I’m getting smacked.

  36. 2009 June 22 3:47 pm
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    chekote permalink

    I vote yes!

  37. 2009 June 22 3:49 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Another example of why it is dangerous to run on family values. Stick to economics, foreign policy.

  38. 2009 June 22 3:50 pm
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    Brandon permalink

    Anyone who knows my work on HedgehogReport, knows that public opinion polling is my “expertise,” so to speak.

  39. 2009 June 22 3:53 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Anyone? Anyone? Good thing modesty is not in fashion these days.

  40. 2009 June 22 3:55 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Another example of why it is dangerous to run on family values.

    Oh knock it off. Just because Sanford might be flat on his back in a whorehouse does not justify abortion.

  41. 2009 June 22 4:03 pm
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    JustMary permalink

    I was thinking of doing a sort of daily polling round-up and posting it on here every evening. Maybe I can even e-mail it to one of the main contributors and they can make it a thread. Any thoughts?

    Sounds great to me! I’ll email you later tonight or tomorrow morning with details.

  42. 2009 June 22 4:08 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    The big lesson being projected, loud and clear, is how weakened a populace becomes when unarmed.

    I guess the 2nd amendment is safe when our 2 most liberal ladies tout its worth in 3 days…

  43. 2009 June 22 4:09 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    INC is not staying away because of me, is she, Mary? Nor Judy, nor beej?

  44. 2009 June 22 4:16 pm
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    JustMary permalink

    I dunno about Judy, see beej now and then, but INC’s Dad died, so she wanted some family time.

  45. 2009 June 22 4:19 pm
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    chekote permalink

    does not justify abortion.

    What do family values have to do with abortion? Get out of the heat! You are losing your mind.

  46. 2009 June 22 4:21 pm
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    chekote permalink

    INC is not staying away because of me, is she, Mary? Nor Judy, nor beej?

    You have such a way with women! 😉

  47. 2009 June 22 4:21 pm
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    JustMary permalink

    What the hell?!?!?!?

  48. 2009 June 22 4:30 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Michael Rubin is being interviewed, saying that we are at the “tipping point” in Iran. Much depends on whether there are any defections from the Revolutionary Guard or not. If they stay loyal to Khameni, his will being imposed on the people by the inforcement of the Guard, Rubin feels that dissenters will be “rolled up” during the night and disappear, when there are no crowds around.

    Rubin also says we should not let the Iranian govt. shut the media out, making efforts to broadcast other opinions into Iran saying that shooting your own people will be taken up on “Judgment Day.”

  49. 2009 June 22 4:31 pm
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    Brandon permalink

    “Sounds great to me! I’ll email you later tonight or tomorrow morning with details.”

    Thanks! I usually won’t be able to post it until around 8 PM EST or so, or maybe a little earlier, considering I don’t get home until 5 PM every day.

  50. 2009 June 22 4:32 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Oh, that should come as no surprise. Trust me, if we get thru Obama without ending up like the Iranians, we’ll be lucky.

  51. 2009 June 22 4:37 pm
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    janzam permalink

    The key here is to be vigilant and not give Obama the rope of power like the Leaders in Iran have over their people.

    This whole Middle Eastern situation should be a wake-up call for anyone dozing through all the govermental interventions Obama is trying to put through in such a hurry!

  52. 2009 June 22 4:50 pm
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    janzam permalink

    An interview between John Roberts, of CNN, and a young Iranian street
    protester. Here is an “insider’s” POV on how to help:

    Mohammad: Americans, European Union, international community, this government is not definitely — is definitely not elected by the majority of Iranians. So it’s illegal. Do not recognize it. Stop trading with them. Impose much more sanctions against them. My message…to the international community, especially I’m addressing President Obama directly – how can a government that doesn’t recognize its people’s rights and represses them brutally and mercilessly have nuclear activities? This government is a huge threat to global peace. Will a wise man give a sharp dagger to an insane person? We need your help international community. Don’t leave us alone.

    Chetry: Mohammad, what do you think the international community should do besides sanctions?

    Mohammad: Actually, this regime is really dependent on importing gasoline. More than 85% of Iran’s gasoline is imported from foreign countries. I think international communities must sanction exporting gasoline to Iran and that might shut down the government.

    complete interview

    H/T InstaPundit

  53. 2009 June 22 5:16 pm
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    janzam permalink

    I speak for Mousavi. And Iran. The man Iranians want as their leader has been silenced. This is what he wants you to know

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jun/19/iran-election-mousavi-ahmadinejad>Link

  54. 2009 June 22 5:17 pm
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    MFG permalink

    Brandon, looking forward to your polling reports…!!!

  55. 2009 June 22 5:19 pm
    [55]
    janzam permalink

    Another try at the link:

    Link

  56. 2009 June 22 5:48 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    MFG –

    Question: what is Jindal doing to combat the direction that Obama and the Dems are takinng the country? I troll freerepublic.com frequently seeking fodder. Jindal has some big-time supporters at FR and nothing has been posted about him on FR in more than a month.

    Palin, Pawlenty, Huckabee, Sanford and Romney all are in the fight to one degree or another, but I am not hearing anything from Jindal. The last posting on FR was when the legislature overrode his Stimulus vetos.

  57. 2009 June 22 5:59 pm
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    conservativetony permalink

    Brandon, looking forward to your polling er Christie reports…!!!

    There, fixed that for you MFG 😀

  58. 2009 June 22 6:00 pm
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    MFG permalink

    Jindal is concentrating on guiding the state through the recession, which has been relatively mild for us

    He really loves executive decision making and is focusing all of his efforts on keeping the state afloat

  59. 2009 June 22 6:01 pm
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    MFG permalink

    We need a resident pollster, CT!

    By the way, congrats to your Lakers for the championship win

  60. 2009 June 22 6:06 pm
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    conservativetony permalink

    I was just teasing. Brandon pulls polling links from out of nowhere. I always enjoy his insight.

    Regarding the Lakers, I follow another “Los Angeles” team. The Chargers. I think they have a chance this year.

  61. 2009 June 22 6:11 pm
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    BCL permalink

    <IAn interview between John Roberts, of CNN, and a young Iranian street
    protester. Here is an “insider’s” POV on how to help:

    Jan, Hannity just played a clip of Reagan speaking of Poland back in the day. He was doing what the Iranian was begging 0bama et al. to do.

  62. 2009 June 22 6:33 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    MFG wrote:

    “Jindal is concentrating on guiding the state through the recession, which has been relatively mild for us

    “He really loves executive decision making and is focusing all of his efforts on keeping the state afloat.”

    If he’s interested in national office, he needs to make his voice heard. We have enough GOP leaders with no backbone. I like Jindal, but he needs to make some noise.

  63. 2009 June 22 6:34 pm
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    janzam permalink

    BLC

    We could certainly use Reagan or a Reagan type today, that is for sure!

    Do you know if Reagan wrote many of his own speeches?

  64. 2009 June 22 6:36 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Jindal has never struck me as a “look at me” type of guy. He quietly goes about his business and seems to get the job done. I wonder what his approval rating is in his state?

  65. 2009 June 22 6:36 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    BCL –

    I saw the Reagan tape too. He was one of a kind. I actually was proud to have the opportunity to vote for him twice.

  66. 2009 June 22 6:39 pm
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    MFG permalink

  67. 2009 June 22 6:40 pm
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    MFG permalink

  68. 2009 June 22 6:42 pm
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    Chek. There is nothing good about Multiculturalism. It is fine to remember the cultures from the “Old Country”, but it should not stop immigrants melting into our own culture, which is the oldest democracy in the world.

  69. 2009 June 22 6:42 pm
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    Brandon permalink

    Here’s one dated April 29. He’s at a 67/30 split:

    http://www.laplaintalk.com/news-releases/3005press-release.pdf

  70. 2009 June 22 6:43 pm
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    Brandon permalink

    Looks like MFG already caught it. 🙂

  71. 2009 June 22 6:43 pm
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    janzam permalink

    MFG

    Wow! That’s high — especially in this day and age of political cynicism.

    Thanks!

  72. 2009 June 22 6:44 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Brandon, you’re both fast!

  73. 2009 June 22 6:47 pm
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    MFG permalink

    Bobby is a very likable guy

    He’s brilliant, extremely earnest, a real policy wonk who gets excited talking about his ideas and wins people over with his sincerity

    He doesn’t have an immediate appeal or charisma with people but the more people see of him the more they think, “Wow, this is a SMART guy who knows what he’s doing!”

  74. 2009 June 22 6:48 pm
    [75]
    MFG permalink

    LSU is losing the first game of the College World Series to Texas

    Crap…

  75. 2009 June 22 6:49 pm
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    MFG permalink

    Giving up six home runs hasn’t helped much…

  76. 2009 June 22 6:55 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Six home runs? Hopefully the wind is blowing out.

  77. 2009 June 22 6:55 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Angel of Iran. Neda, the young woman shot during the Iranian protests has quickly become a martyr for all the injustices going on there.

    Apparently she was just riding in a car with her music teacher when their car was bogged down by human protesters in the street. They got out to see what was happening, when a snipper shot her, and she died almost instantly.

    Because the graphic video of the event caught the attention of not only the Iranian people, but was internationally passed around, the leaders forbid any mosques from participating in a funeral for her.

    What a beautiful and innocent looking young woman…

    Angel of Iran

  78. 2009 June 22 6:57 pm
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    Brandon permalink

    I’m rooting for the underdog Texas.

  79. 2009 June 22 6:58 pm
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    MFG permalink

    Well, it’s best of three, maybe we can win the next two

    Texas looks like the better team, though, frankly…

  80. 2009 June 22 7:03 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Hannity may have hit an all-time low for his All-American Panel tonight: Bob Beckel, Dennis Prager and Jay Feeley, placekicker for the NY Jets. At least he could have a QB or RB for a winning team, but a placekicker for the Jets? Might as well have one of the Detroit Lions.

  81. 2009 June 22 7:13 pm
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    MFG permalink

    Wow!

    Two in the ninth and we’re tied!!

  82. 2009 June 22 7:13 pm
    [83]
    MFG permalink

    With two outs too, what a huge hit!!

  83. 2009 June 22 8:17 pm
    [84]
    chekote permalink

    Jon and Kate split up as I predicted.

  84. 2009 June 22 8:24 pm
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    Chek.

    Abortion is most definately a family values issue. If we keep aborting, pretty soon we will have no families.

    It is infanticide. It is immoral. It is murder.

  85. 2009 June 22 8:29 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Abortion is most definately a family values issue.If we keep aborting, pretty soon we will have no families.

    It is not. Most of the people I know that had abortions already had all the kids they could handle. The human race is in no danger of being extinct. Also, murder is unlawful killing. So it doesn’t apply since abortion is legal. Get your terminology straight!

  86. 2009 June 22 8:29 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Who won?

  87. 2009 June 22 8:31 pm
    [88]
    chekote permalink

    Frickin’ O’Reilly is unwatchable. It is always about him.

  88. 2009 June 22 8:33 pm
    [89]
    MFG permalink

    LSU won in 11

    Amazing…

  89. 2009 June 22 8:34 pm
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    MFG permalink

    O’Reilly isn’t a shrinking violet is he…???

  90. 2009 June 22 8:35 pm
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    It is not legal as far as I am concerned. I don’t think God is pleased with it. I am willing to render under Ceaser what is Ceaser’s, but Ceaser (U.S. Supreme court)crossed the line on abortion. I don’t care if you think it is OK. I do not and consider in Murder in my mind.

  91. 2009 June 22 8:36 pm
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    chekote permalink

    I got so sick of him when he started doing the body language and he would ask her to read HIS body language. He keeps going on and on about the Tiller case and how the Left is being unfair to him. He is an egomaniac.

  92. 2009 June 22 8:38 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Fien RP. I don’t care. You can believe whatever you want just don’t act on it.

  93. 2009 June 22 8:39 pm
    [94]
    chekote permalink

    Who appointed Bill O’Reilly as a culture warrior? What happened to his sexual harassment lawsuit.

  94. 2009 June 22 8:42 pm
    [95]
    chekote permalink

    Sarkozy vs Obama on The Burqa

    I never thought I would see the day of FRANCE leading the way on women’s rights.

  95. 2009 June 22 8:43 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    chekote – question for you.

    If the country split with conservatives on one side and liberals on the other. And abortion was illegal on one side (conservatives) and legal (liberals). And you had to make your choice with either being with the conservatives with all of their social issues or the liberals with all of their socially liberal positions (higher taxes, gay marriage, liberal immigration, etc).

    Which way do you go?

  96. 2009 June 22 8:47 pm
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    Chek.

    What part of “Thou shall not kill” do you not understand?

  97. 2009 June 22 8:51 pm
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    chekote permalink

    GN

    That’s a tough question. I have to give it some thought. I see reproductive rights as an integral part of women’s rights and those are very dear to me for a lot of reasons. So let me think about it.

  98. 2009 June 22 8:52 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    chekote – fair enough, get back when you have.

  99. 2009 June 22 8:55 pm
    [100]
    chekote permalink

    What part of “Thou shall not kill” do you not understand?

    Look, I don’t feel like discussing this now. I have other stuff on my mind. Let me just ask you whether you think that killing in the act of self-defense is murder? Probably not. Therefore, killing does not necessarily equal murder. As a matter of fact, if you look up the original Hebrew word it translates to thous shall not commit unlawful killing i.e. murder. I am tired of discussing this issue.

  100. 2009 June 22 8:56 pm
    [101]
    chekote permalink

    I think Fox is going downhill. Hannity is unwatchable. O’Reilly is unwatchable. Who is left? Jon and Kate.

  101. 2009 June 22 8:58 pm
    [102]
    BCL permalink

    Which way do you go?

    Duh 🙂

  102. 2009 June 22 9:00 pm
    [103]
    chekote permalink

    Neda

    Absolutely gorgeous woman. May she rest in peace.

  103. 2009 June 22 9:01 pm
    [104]
    chekote permalink

  104. 2009 June 22 9:05 pm
    [105]
    chekote permalink

    I just watched Reagan on Hannity addressing the Polish crisis. Boy has this country really gone down. G-nite.

  105. 2009 June 22 9:06 pm
    [106]
    RepublicanPundit permalink

    Well, then don’t bring it up.

  106. 2009 June 22 9:08 pm
    [107]
    drdog09 permalink

    OT, but interesting —

    What did Hoover, Truman, and Eisenhower have in common?

    Back during The Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work..

    Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal’s after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans.

    And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexican Nationals! The program was called ‘Operation Wetback’. It was done so WWII and Korean Veterans would have a better chance at jobs. It took 2 Years, but they deported them!

    Now…if they could deport the illegal’s back then – they could sure do it today?

  107. 2009 June 22 9:10 pm
    [108]
    chekote permalink

    Well, then don’t bring it up.

    I didn’t. RWY did. Check the record.

  108. 2009 June 22 9:17 pm
    [109]
    justrand permalink

    just got home…STILL outraged from reading about Obama leaving in place the invitation for EVERY embassy worldwide to host the IRANIAN DIPLOMATS on July 4th!

    more to follow….

  109. 2009 June 22 9:17 pm
    [110]
    drdog09 permalink

    Here’s one for Chek — link Its a Ron Paul alert.

    For those of you who might have a pond. You might be getting ready to lose your right to do with it what you want.

  110. 2009 June 22 9:20 pm
    [111]
    justrand permalink

    Kristalnacht was November 9, 1938. The U.S. was NOT at war with Germany. Would it have been appropriate for Roosevelt to have every American embassy worldwide host Thanksgiving dinner for German diplomats that year??

    So why does Obama think it’s acceptable to invite the blood-thirsty Iranian government into OUR embassies, right after they have brutally suppressed their own people?

    Obama is so beneath contempt it is impossible to gauge it!

    F**K HIM!!

  111. 2009 June 22 9:29 pm
    [112]
    drdog09 permalink

    Fascist Professional Courtesy?

  112. 2009 June 22 9:30 pm
    [113]
    justrand permalink

    thx, drdog…I overlooked the obvious! 👿

  113. 2009 June 22 9:37 pm
    [114]
    justrand permalink

    eff’ing CANADA has more balls than us! No offense, Canada, but ya’ll haven’t been known for tough talk for a few decades!!

    Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper condemned on Monday what he said was Tehran’s totally unacceptable use of brute force and intimidation to deal with protests.

    in response Obama toughened HIS stance towards Iran, saying Iranian diplomats invited to our embassies on July 4th will only be able to have a single helping of potato salad! Take THAT!

  114. 2009 June 22 9:37 pm
    [115]
    MFG permalink

    Obama has a natural affinity for people who hate America because he hates America also

  115. 2009 June 22 9:44 pm
    [116]
    justrand permalink

    Michelle Obama: “For the first time in my adult life I’m proud of Iran”
    Reporter: “You mean for the Iranian people standing up for freedom?”
    Michelle Obama: “Oh HELL NO…I’m proud of the government for showing ’em who’s boss!!”

  116. 2009 June 23 4:02 am
    [117]

    “I think Fox is going downhill. Hannity is unwatchable. O’Reilly is unwatchable. Who is left? Jon and Kate.”

    Just turn off the tv then and go outside and burn a bra or something. 😉

  117. 2009 June 23 4:10 am
    [118]

    You know it’s sad when European and Canadian leaders are sticking their heads farther out than the U.S. on this issue.

    I wonder if Michelle is proud of her country right now hmmm?

    You know someone might call this current situation a “Man caused disaster”, certainly a man caused missed opportunity, did Obama forget his speech of 6/4 already, if so surely they could scrounge up a teleprompter and parts of that speech.

  118. 2009 June 23 4:12 am
    [119]

    Thou shall not disrupt thy expensive, unfunded, destructive health care pitch.

  119. 2009 June 23 6:15 am
    [120]
    drdog09 permalink

    A little something for the Hmmm in your day —

    Only in America, the United States of America

    * ONLY IN AMERICA: MUST WE SPEND BILLIONS BECAUSE WE CAN’T LET CHRYSLER & GM GO BANKRUPT, AND THEN, LET CHRYSLER & GM GO BANKRUPT.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: CAN CONGRESS FORCE FANNIE AND FREDDIE TO BUY SUB-PRIME LOANS, AND THEN BLAME FANNIE AND FREDDIE FOR BUYING SUBPRIME LOANS. THEN LAY OFF THE CEO’s WITH GIANT SEVERENCE PACKAGES AND NATIONALIZE THE COMPANIES FOR THE TAX PAYERS TO PICK UP THE COST!!
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: A MAJOR CRISIS REQUIRES SWIFT ACTION TO PASS A BILL WITHOUT READING IT, THEN WAIT FOR THREE DAYS BEFORE THE PRESIDENT TAKES THE TIME TO SIGN IT.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: CAN YOU BE LEGALLY ILLEGAL.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: THE CONGRESS CAN MAKE LAWS THAT THEY DON’T HAVE TO FOLLOW.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: WHERE YOUR VICE PRESIDENT DECLARES ‘JOBS’ A 3 LETTER WORD.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: DOES THE MILITARY GET INVESTIGATED BY HOMELAND SECURITY AS POSSIBLE TERRORISTS, WHILE OUR BORDERS ARE WIDE OPEN.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: CAN YOU GET A TAX REFUND ON TAXES YOU DIDN’T PAY, AND ONLY IN AMERICA CAN WE HAVE A TREASURY SECRETARY WHO FAILED TO PAY HIS TAXES. ONLY IN AMERICA CAN THE FOX GUARD THE HEN HOUSE.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: CAN YOU BLAME OTHERS WHEN YOU DON’T PERFORM.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: ARE YOU ABLE TO HAVE MORE RIGHTS BEING ILLEGAL, THAN YOU DO LEGAL.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: CAN YOU BE 13 AND HAVE AN ABORTION WITHOUT TELLING YOUR PARENTS, BUT MUST HAVE A WRITTEN NOTE FROM YOUR PARENT WHEN YOU MISSED SCHOOL.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: ARE YOU PUNISHED FOR GOOD PERFORMANCE AND HONORED FOR NON PERFORMANCE.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: CAN YOU CALL LARGE CORPORATIONS EVIL, WHILE 99.9% OF AMERICANS WORK IN COMPANIES WITH LESS THAN 500 EMPLOYEES.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: CAN CHRYSLER GET 10 BILLION IN AID FOR THEIR COMPANY OF 30,000 EMPLOYEES. I GUESS IT IS DIFFICULT TO RUN A COMPANY FOR $333,333 PER EMPLOYEE.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: WE CARE ABOUT 3 GUYS THAT GET WATER UP THE NOSE, WHILE OUR ENEMIES ARE BEHEADING US AND BLOWING CROWDS OF PEOPLE UP WITH SUICIDE BOMBINGS. (and the same three guys are part of that!)
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: CAN YOU SAY OTHER INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES WORK, BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THOSE TECHNIQUES ARE.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: CAN YOU BE PRESIDENT WITHOUT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA: WHATEVER GOES WRONG WILL ALWAYS BE BUSH’S FAULT.
    * ONLY IN AMERICA CAN THE TAXPAYERS GET HOSED BY SUCH CROOKS AND THEN REELECT THEM !!!
    * LASTLY, HOWEVER, IN AMERICA: YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK AS THE PRESIDENT – WHEN THE TELEPROMPTER IS ON BECAUSE WITHOUT IT YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF SAYING THE WRONG THING !

  120. 2009 June 23 6:20 am
    [121]
    durman permalink

    I’m hoping and praying that Obomba’s government takeover of health care is truly dying if not dead already.

  121. 2009 June 23 7:03 am
    [122]
    drdog09 permalink

    How bad is it in Kalifornia? Its so bad…

  122. 2009 June 23 7:06 am
    [123]
    drdog09 permalink

    Have I missed it, but I have not seen anyone make the connection between the importance of the 2nd amendment and the events in Iran. I mean if Iran’s populace were armed this whole drama would have been over in short order.

  123. 2009 June 23 7:24 am
    [124]
    justrand permalink

    drdog…GREAT list! funny and tragic at the same time! 🙂 🙁

    as for the 2nd Amendment…Rubio apparently made a comment, then halfway backed off it.

    I want some Republican (or Democrat) to SCREAM it out!

    Truth: the last and best safeguard of our Republic is the 2nd Amendment. If we lost that, we would be Iran with better weather and less oil! (we actually have MORE oil than Iran…we’re just not allowed to go get it)

  124. 2009 June 23 8:14 am
    [125]
    JustMary permalink

    You nailed it, drdog.

  125. 2009 June 23 8:39 am
    [126]
    janzam permalink

    A wonderfully complete list, Drdog!

    When you put it all down like that, it makes you wonder why more people aren’t taking notice?

    BTW — didyou compose the list yourself?

  126. 2009 June 23 1:42 pm
    [127]
    drdog09 permalink

    janzam. I have to credit the Old Man for the list. He sent it to me this morning and it was just toooo good to not pass on.

  127. 2009 June 23 4:32 pm
    [128]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Have I missed it, but I have not seen anyone make the connection between the importance of the 2nd amendment and the events in Iran. I mean if Iran’s populace were armed this whole drama would have been over in short order.

    Astonishingly in a pleasantly surprising way, Chekote and Jan have both made that point in the last few days….

    Look at classicvalues blog. They make that point. Instapundit had a link…

  128. 2009 June 23 7:18 pm
    [129]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/2009/06/your_rights_are.html

    that’s the link. Our civil liberties are safe with the left, as long as you don’t mean speech, arms, property, or due process…

    Other than that, hell yea.

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