The Cost of Freedom
[warning…this post contains VERY strong language]
A bank I used to work for had numerous branches, and my job at one point involved automating their business operations…which led to me visiting the largest ones several times to gather requirements and install systems. One day when I went to one I had been to before, I found a chain across one of the parking lot entrances, with traffic cones to alert you to the chains.
I went inside I asked them what the deal was…and the reply was: “We have to do that once a year for a full day”. “Why?”, I asked. They pointed out that as their building sat on a narrow strip of land between two streets, you could cut through the parking lot to go from one street to the other…and thus avoid the stoplights…which people routinely did. Technically “trespassing”, but the bank didn’t mind too much, except that once a year they needed to physically BLOCK that practice, or they could lose the right to ever do so freely i.e., the parking lot would have become a de facto thoroughfare!
During the presidential campaign last year the media, entertainers and politicians completely abandoned any pretense of fairness AND decorum. In fact this had been going on for some time…it just become more obvious and reached new lows during the campaign when Sarah Palin was announced as VP nominee and she and her family became their favorite targets. Never in the history of American politics has a politician’s FAMILY been designated “fair game” to this extent (or at all). Never.
Defensible? You betcha!
Kathleen Parker, Washington Post, said THIS about the Letterman jokes:
“I also think it’s out of line for a woman to sexualize her candidacy, which Palin did. …she winked during the vp debate. So, maybe when you play the flirt and invite males to see starbursts bouncing off the walls, then maybe you invite the sexual punchline.”
And here I thought the feminist era ENDED that old “Rapist Defense Argument” of:
“Your honor, that red dress, those high heels…she was BEGGING for it!!”
Apparently that “defense” is back in fashion! Eminem feels it is, and raps about having sex with Sarah Palin in his single “We Made You“, and then has a Palin look-alike spread-eagled in his video having sex with multiple people.
Margaret Carlson, et al, have defended Letterman claiming that assuming he DID mean Bristol Palin, she is “fair game” since she “decided to be a spokesperson for a cause”. As was pointed out on this site yesterday: the NY Times ran three front page stories on Bristol Palin’s pregnancy in a single issue BEFORE she was a spokesperson for anything. Margaret Carlson couldn’t stop there, btw, she went on to say: “There’s a worst person in the world somewhere in this story but it’s not David Letterman anymore [it’s Sarah Palin]” Feminists unite!
The relentless attacks against Palin have spilled over to any and all “Conservative women”.
Playboy magazine: “there is a way to reach across the aisle without letting principles fall by the wayside. We speak, naturally, of the hate fuck. We may despise everything these women represent, but goddammit they’re hot. Let the healing begin.” Immediately afterwards a list of Conservative women who should be subjected to a “hate f*ck” was provided. No, Sarah did not make this list, but Michelle Malkin, Megyn Kelly, Mary Katherine Ham, and Laura Ingraham did. Playboy pulled this vile article only after people started canceling their subscriptions!
MSNBC (et al), SNL, Letterman and other comedians, NY Times (et al), Playboy, and so many others. They’ve ALL attacked Sarah Palin and her family relentlessly for nearly a year now. They have that and THIS in common: in every case and every attack you will find others (maybe even yourself) saying “Oh, it’s just ________, nobody listens to _______ anyway” (or nobody “cares” about that person/outlet anyway, etc).
We’ve gotten so used to people trespassing, on Palin and on us, that when we try to put a barrier up it is WE (and she) who are attacked! How DARE we try to stop the trespassing! As Margaret Carlson and Kathleen Parker (et al) pointed out: Palin and her family were BEGGING for it! They deserve Playboy’s “hate f*ck”…metaphorically at least.
The Cost of Freedom? For the bank I mentioned the cost of having the freedom to control their own parking lot was a length of chain and a couple traffic cones. It’s been so long since we even TRIED to prevent trespassing against decent people like Sarah Palin, and innocents like her 14 and 18 year old daughters, that we barely know how anymore. Or maybe we’re just afraid, after all, in just three days the media has made Sarah Palin the VILLAIN in this particular episode for DARING to defend herself! We’ll need more than a length of chain and few traffic cones to stop the trespassers…there’re too many of them, and they believe we DESERVE to be trespassed against. Still,the cost of our freedom is that we must at least try!
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Loved your featured post, Justrand — timely and right on.
You tied you analogy perfectly towards the end to your point –>It’s been so long since we even TRIED to prevent trespassing against decent people like Sarah Palin, and innocents like her 14 and 18 year old daughters, that we barely know how anymore.
I know it’s the game of politics to snuff out the “good” people before their flame grows too bright. However, I still find myself continuously amazed at the blatant garbage being thrown at people like Palin, followed by an innocent reply by the punk throwing it, like Letterman, whose apology was equivalent to saying, “Lighten up, can’t Palin take a good joke?”
But, I think the average person does have a sensibility threshold to this kind of stuff, especially when blogs and conservative media refuse to let the libs crawl back into their holes in order to escape the “foul” call.
Even NOW has gotten involved! So, maybe there are still people out there left with the courage and dignity to put up a “chain” against the validation of the indefensible.
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thx, janzam, I apologize for the Playboy quote, but the brutality of it needed to be clear.
I could have EASILY cited 50 or more examples from just the past 8 months where Palin and/or Conservative Women were trashed in every conceivable way and the response was a deafening SILENCE! Or worse…Palin and others were accused of INVITING the abuse!
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I just watched the Palin interview with matt lauer. She echoed what you said here, Dad. I also want to mention that during the election, when I was a moderator at a Palin site, we got plastered on a daily basis with porn pictures in every thread. Because we allowed people to post photos, trolls from lefty “I live in Mom’s basement” sites came over and had posted photoshopped porn with Sarah’s face on the bodies. It was beyond foul, and just having to delete the posts meant I had to see them- they were so gross- the kind that make you want to vomit.
Would that have occured to those “people” to do that to Obama? Of course not. There is a political justification whenever anyone goes after a Republican woman or her children in a sexual manner- and outrage when anyone so much as says a democrat woman is poorly dressed, or ugly. It has to stop, though I doubt it will now that the “she was begging for it” excuse has come back to be socially accepted again.
God Bless Sarah. I pray a hedge of protection around her and her family from those who seek to do them harm, physically and emotionally. May God strengthen them daily.
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As to the traffic cones. That’s from old english common law. The owners in the Times Square area do that once a year for the same reason.
As to the attacks on Palin and others. Sometimes it is not the content of the attack that is important but just the attack itself. The basis of those that attack Palin use the cover of some ‘affront’ to justify their assault. But the problem is if you look just under the surface the attack is based on fear. Not personal fear, organizational fear. Those that front for NOW, SCLC, ACORN, etc do so based on organizational dictates.
Take Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition. Jackson rarely has any personal gain in the rift, its his business that he has fear for. If someone like Palin was to become President and load her cabinet with self-made minority representatives that blows Jackson RC out of the water. For the lie, you can’t make it on your own, is blow asunder.
So when I see attacks on folks like Palin, that tells me these are the people that the Left fears the most. They are the ones that need to be elected. Not another Spectre.
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There must be a moral, somewhere, in explaining the enormous bias that exists out there. Historically the good are often the ones who experienced greater suffering, were not shown a lot of public “love,” and literally had to have a stiff upper lip, marching forward to their ideals without the throngs of fans rooting them onward (like Obama currently enjoys).
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Great post, JustRand
Speaking of Sarah’s treatment by the MSM, take a look at this PHOTO
It is the enlarged photo from this story HERE
HT Drudge
I have no doubt AP searched for that exact moment she was being photographed for her hand to be in that position because they have done it before. In fact, about a year ago, through emails, I was battling somebody over at Newsmax for using photos supplied by AP that showed other Republians in similar pose.
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Dear David Letterman — Michelle Malkin
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Actually, the enlarged photo is
HERE
The other photo was something I was going to post last night, but forgot. I was going to ask which one you thought Obama’s policies more closely resembled.
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janzam,
That’s a good piece by Malkin. Sadly, everybody is focusing on just Palin. Letterman, has three people to apologize to, not two. Palin, Willow AND Rodriguez. His little joke essentially told the world Letterman belives he is capable of raping someone.
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that’s a great letter by Malkin! thx for the link!
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Janzam,
I read your link. Michelle, like always is right on. I wonder if she has any kids.
Anyway, her ‘letter’ reminded me of the guy who referred to some female basketball players as ‘nappy headed ho’s’. If I recall correctly, this guy was fired from his job.
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Good comments, and a good post JR. I’m going to the driving range, then let Rush cheer me up a bit.
Have any of yuo heard the Paul Shanklin parody of Barney Frank. ‘Banking Queen’ sung to the tune of Dancing Queen? I still laugh and I have heard it a dozen times.
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Bruce, I was just listening to Rush’s show from yesterday on iTunes.
His Obama/God similarites are priceless.
How are God and Obama alike? Neither has a birth certificate?
How are they different? Liberals like Obama.
What do they think about charity? God only asks for 10%.
How else are they different? Obama gets better press.
He had about a dozen more.
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“but Michelle Malkin, Megyn Kelly, Mary Katherine Ham, and Laura Ingraham did. ”
…. daz a good list. 🙂
“I apologize for the Playboy quote, but the brutality of it needed to be clear”
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don’t apologize… it’s just term… embrace it!
example: I’d love to hate fuck Charlize Theron, you know cause she’s begging for it. 😉
You know the airline slut remark was lame and distasteful which is Lettermans specialty, but had that been the only remark few would have been appalled, including me.
“Letterman, has three people to apologize to, not two. Palin, Willow AND Rodriguez.”
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I’m a little suprised Arod didn’t put out a statement to the effect that he did not appreciate the joke.
Dr@8:00am good post.
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“He had about a dozen more.”
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They were all funny as hell and accurate.
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“I wonder if she has any kids.”
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She has two kids.
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There is only a trickle, but slowly some of the media seems to be getting on board concerning the MSM’s slanted reporting. Letterman’s comments appear to have been a catalyst, of sorts, for other eyes to suddenly open up to these truths.
From Salon.com:
Did David Letterman get a free pass?
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I didn’t agree when Imus was kicked off the air for his “nappy” comment. Didn’t care for the joke. I didn’t think it was funny but if we keep kicking people off the air for tasteless, offensive stuff our free speech will mean nothing. Also, has everyone here forgotten the kind of vitriol that was directed at Hillary from the Right? It is no different than what Palin is getting from the Left. It seems that too many can dish it but can’t take it.
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Just for kicks, take a look at this poll, but before you do, ask yourself which group is better liked in N.C.: unions or religious organizations?
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_NC_611.pdf
No mention about the unions or teacher’s groups being left wing. The left’s hatred for anything decent in this country is getting to be less and less subtle.
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Please don’t start today, Chekote.
Nobody on the right suggested Chelsea was knocked up. In fact, the right never mentioned the words Hillary and sex in the same sentence.
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‘It is no different than what Palin is getting from the Left.’
Pathetic.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Murphy_(political_consultant)
Another Republican lefty who says we need to abandon everything Conservative or else we will lose again. Mike Murphy’s main guy was John McCain. I guess that would make him an expert on losing.
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This is the link
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Chekote — Politics can get rough, and one has to have a thick skin to even get involved with the game. However, the “digging” that goes on towards Republicans is much deeper and more cruel than with the dims.
From the get-go, media was going through Palin’s trash in Alaska. I don’t recall the same going on at, let’s say, the Obama residence. Do you?
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Hey, Jan
Just got word that Jolene did have her surgery, but she’s been recovering slowly and according to her husband, too weak to talk.
Anyway, I’m her computer guy and my wife is her stylist so she’s likely to be calling one of us soon enough.
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Tony — good Mike Murphy article. He does make some legitimate points regarding the snap-shot of today’s demographics. However, the political landscape is fluid, always changing. Those 30 and under he cited will soon enough be over 30, and beyond. Along with age, so will their POV change and be in flux.
I’ve thought a lot about PG’s “core values” statements, and think he is right in many ways.
This summer, for instance, I am taking an Ethics Class, and one’s ethics are governed by the moral principles they develop within themselves. Often times these principles are in direct conflict with the law, like those who are offended by the law established under Roe vs Wade.
It seems at the present we are in an era where there is very little self-reflection going on, especially among the younger segments of society. But, if and when this changes, people will be more in tune with seeking internal stabilization — hence truths will be uncovered and values once again looked upon with more respect.
I do believe that the pendulum will swing back…..
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Tony — Thanks for the update. She sent me a note, a few weeks back, and I have it sitting next to my computer, which gives me a nudge to think about her.:)
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Tony, as janzam said, thanks for the update! Let her know she has folks thinking of her and praying for her!!
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It is no different than what Palin is getting from the Left.
I guess you don’t listen to Levin who refers to Hillary as “her thighness”. People on the right referred to her as a beast. I guess you must have missed all that. You are pathetic for being so partisan that you can’t see that the extremes on both sides carry the rhetoric too far.
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CT
I hope your friend recovers quickly.
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Thanks, Chek and everybody else for the coments.
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Back to politics
Chek, you are being obtuse–as usual.
Remember when Sarah said she expects to be attacked? That it was part of the game? Her 14 adn 18 year old daughters aren’t part of the game.
Levin use of the term ‘her thighness’ is nothing compared to what the left says about Conservative women, but I’m certain you will never find anything about him attacking her daughter.
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like those who are offended by the law established under Roe vs Wade,
BTW, Andrew Sullivan has been doing fantastic blogging on the issue of abortion. In particular, late term abortion. He has had many readers shares their stories, points of view. He has shown what a complicated, emotional, fraught with ethical questions this issue is. Really worthwhile reading. Also, Sullivan has shown a constructive way to deal with this issue. Too bad that the rest of his blog pretty much stinks.
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Chekote — Not trying to pick an argument, but I think there is a huge difference between the “thighness” dig and one that has gross sexual overtones, especially to one’s children…and, yes, 18 is still a “child” in my book, let alone a 14 year old.
Conservatives are not saints in their comments. But, the dims are generally meaner and go lower in their digs than republicans do.
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“Also, has everyone here forgotten the kind of vitriol that was directed at Hillary from the Right?”
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Please show me the late night critic who joked about Chelsea getting impregnated, till then please just stfu about this.
“obtuse–as usual. ” – yah think?
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I am not going to get into a fight about Letterman again. I found his joke tasteless and inappropriate. I do believe that he meant Bristol but still was an inappropriate, tasteless joke. I don’t watch Letterman. But at the same time if we keep adding to the list of things that people CAN’T say, pretty soon there will be no comedy. As it is, today a brilliant show like All in the Family is impossible. So instead of getting insightful comedy about our society, we get silly stuff like “Friends” or “Will and Grace”.
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“It seems that too many can dish it but can’t take it.”
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Reminds me of someone.
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KH
Did Hillary have a daughter that got pregnant? I don’t recall. Does Palin have a teenage daughter that got pregnant? Please help me out.
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“BTW, Andrew Sullivan has been doing fantastic blogging…”
“Really worthwhile reading.”
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Any you wonder why people think your a Kos Plant? 🙂
/back to the j o b.
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chekote stop deflecting, your wrong on this one and you should be wise enough to know it.
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Hillary has indeed been ridiculed for her looks and mannerisms…and so has Palin. Granted.
I must have missed the music-video of Hillary being gang raped??
I must have missed what passes for “journalists” (Parker, Carlson, et al) claiming Hillary was begging for it!
I must have missed the Chelsea getting knocked up by various lechers jokes (Elliot Spitzer, et al)
I must have missed the relentless NY Times FRONT-PAGE stories questioning whether Chelsea was really Hillary’s daughter.
I’ve been right here…but I guess I missed a lot.
All that said…if people want to go after Sarah Palin then that’s fine. Her 14 year is not and never will be “fair game”. And for those who claim that her 18 year old daughter DESERVES to be mocked as a total SLUT because she dares to now try to use the bad example she set to reach out to other girls…SHAME ON YOU!
The Left plays the moral-equivalance game amazingly well! They have to with spokespeople like Robert “KKK” Byrd, Ted “WaterWings” Kennedy, Bill “Hey Baby!” Clinton, et al. Barney Franks symbolizes this in the Left better than anyone…considering that his ex-boyfriend was busted for running a MALE ESCORT SERVICE out of Frank’s house…and Franks is one of the most powerful Democrats in Congress. But since no one expects Franks to NOT be a pervert, no hue and cry was raised.
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Chekote — I actually think that if Chelsea had gotten pregnant the press, comics and everyone on the left would have been very discreet about it, and entirely side-stepped this “sensitive” spot in their candidate’s life.
And, that is the difference between the right and the left, in that left puts a thumb into the wounds of others, and presses down, hard!
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chekote…”Did Hillary have a daughter that got pregnant? I don’t recall. Does Palin have a teenage daughter that got pregnant? Please help me out.”
you disgust me and most (if not all) here with comments like that.
this thread is about STOPPING abhorant behavior towards children…you’re applauding it. Git!
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The Left plays the moral-equivalance game amazingly well! They have to with spokespeople like Robert “KKK” Byrd, Ted “WaterWings” Kennedy, Bill “Hey Baby!” Clinton, et al. Barney Franks symbolizes this in the Left better than anyone…considering that his ex-boyfriend was busted for running a MALE ESCORT SERVICE out of Frank’s house…and Franks is one of the most powerful Democrats in Congress. But since no one expects Franks to NOT be a pervert, no hue and cry was raised. Justrand
Boy Justrand, when you put so much in one paragraph there is a volumn the right could daily rub into the wounds of the left. Hmmmmm
How did Ted Kennedy get so far and be so esteemed with such a stain in his background? Bristol just had a baby, too early in life. But, Ted was responsible for killing someone, then covering it up! Geeez!
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Palin is an Authentic Conservative leader who is rousing the Silent Majority of voters who will turn out to vote FOR an Authentic Conservative but not turn out to simply vote AGAINST someone. This is how Reagan won, and why she is being attacked.
What her attackers don’t realise is these dirty below-the-belt attacks serve to further motivate the Authentic Conservative Silent Majority.
And it isn’t just the Lib/Prog/Soc/Com/Democrats who fear her leadership. The Establishment/Country Club/Rockefeller/Inside-the-Beltway/Republicans are afraid they will lose their own personal political positions and power if there is a resurgence of Authentic Conservativism.
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you’re applauding it. Git
How? By saying that it was a tasteless, inappropriate joke. Is that how I am applauding it. You need some reading glasses.
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ok, this woman happens to BE hard-Left… hattip Salon
http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/06/12/letterman_palin/index.html
in the opening paragraph:
“…stubborn strain of old-school sexism persists in Obama’s America…like a virus hiding in the body before, perhaps, staging a comeback, misogyny has found a place to lurk almost undetected, at least by the usually sharp eyes of progressive feminists.”
where is it “hiding” according to her? in the “liberal media which is sounding and acting, recently, more like the frat-house media.“
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chekote: “Did Hillary have a daughter that got pregnant? I don’t recall. Does Palin have a teenage daughter that got pregnant? Please help me out.”
Translation: “the little slutty Palin bitch deserves to be called a ‘little slutty bitch’!”
That’s EXACTLY what you are saying! Read the Salon article…go soak your head…and keep your “the bitch had it coming” comments off this thread!
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People having be making fun of Ted for decades. People on the right have been calling him “Swimmer” for decades. Is that in bad taste? If I were the family of Copekne (sp?)I certainly would think it was inappropriate to make fun of a fatal car accident that resulted in her death.
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keep your “the bitch had it coming” comments off this thread!
I never said she had it coming. You need to rein in your imagination. Hillary didn’t have a teenage daughter that got pregnant. That’s why there were no jokes made. Instead, Chelsea got “ugly” jokes constantly.
BTW, if Chelsea had turned out pregnant the SoCons would have been out there going on and on about what failed parents the Clintons were. That Bill’s indiscretions led to the pregnancy. How important morals were and on, and on. But when the Left uses Bristol’s pregnancy to point out that Sarah policy prescriptions about teen sex are a failure, the Right gets all incensed that they are attacking her daughter. Families should be off limits.
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Kopechne. Mary Jane Kopechne.
And SHE wasn’t made fun of…instead Ted Kennedy became one of THE shining “stars” of the Democrat Party. A Republican would have been drummed out of office by RELENTLESS hounding by the MSM.
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I don’t agree with Parker’s column. I don’t believe Palin winking during the debate means she “sexualized” her image and the other nonsense that Parker usually writes.
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JustRand
The MSM is biased. We all know that.
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theghostofreason…your poem raises some troubling issues:
– is “coat hanger” one word or two…and with or without a “-” ?
– were clean dishes actually a prioity in the chekote household?
inquiring minds…
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The staff takes care of dishes.
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JR – Unfortunately while under The “Diceman’s” tutelage, grammar and spelling were not emphasized. It was not until Ms. Crabapple came along at PP that my grammar became a priority. 🙂 As far as the dishes go in the Chek household the answer borders on odd at the very least. Why you ask? She was washing paper plates and plastic utensils. I report …. you decide….
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Let’s not fool ourselves about what’s going on here: this is intimidation to get conservative women out of politics
It is bullshit and we need to push back
If we don’t push back they will do it over and over and over again…
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MFG, electing Sarah as POTUS would be the greatest push back EVAH!
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exactly, MFG. It happens on the male side as well…just more obvious on the female side since organizations exist that claim to be DEDICATED to “Women’s Rights”. Yet they always seem to be on vacation when a Conservative is attacked.
But on the male side it exists as well. Can anyone remember the MSM ever collectively explaining away a gaffe by a Conservative? Yes, you’ll find Conservative commentators who will say: “What _____ MEANT to say is….”, but in the hard news they print or say it “warts and all”. Flashback to John Kerry’s famous: “stuck in Iraq” comment. Many newspapers did not even PRINT the original statement, but chose instead to print the “what he MEANT to say” statement…WITHOUT telling their readers it was ammended! (the SJ Mercury News did exactly that!)
But even before the print-media got it, the news anchors were already reading or playing it, and then immediately EXPLAINING it away! the NEWS anchors, not the commentators.
Yes, the media is biased. But they will continue to intimidate Conservatives and especially Conservative WOMEN out of politics every chance they get!
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Chek’s mother while knocked up and doing dishes
Should have coat hangered the bitch
BTW, my mother died several years ago. This is an example that many on the Right are no better than many on the Left. Both engage in vitriol, hateful language just because someone does not agree with their point of view. So what are the “crimes” I committed to justify lashing against my dead mother.
1) I agreed that Letterman’s joke was tasteless and inappropriate;
2) I did not agree that he should be kicked off the air just like I didn’t agree that Imus should have been kicked off the air;
3) I believe that Letterman meant Bristol since she is the only one in Palin’s family who got pregnant. The “joke” doesn’t make any sense with Willow. I don’t think the writers bothered to check which daughter was at the ball game.
4) I pointed out that Hillary got her share of venom from the Right like Palin is getting from the Left;
5) Pointed out that tasteless jokes are made all the time;
6) I said that in my opinion Sarah has done more damage to her daughter’s image through the sham engagement and sending her out there to talk about abstinence when the girl obviously didn’t practice it and had previously said that “abstinence is NOT realistic”.
One would think that mature adults could disagree with each without dragging dead relatives in the mix or advocating the non-existence of the person they disagree with.
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But they will continue to intimidate Conservatives and especially Conservative WOMEN out of politics every chance they get!
Liz Cheney seems to be doing just fine. You guys need to understand that a large section of the American public view Sarah Palin as a joke. She is a celebrity like Kate Gosselin. That’s why idiot comedians like Letterman feel confortable ridiculing her without thiking about what they are saying. This is not a grand conspiracy to keep conservative women out of politics.
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Personally I wish everyone would lay off all nastiness on all sides, and I stopped, on a personal level, from using vulgarity on websites and deriding Hillary with insult words (I used to call her “Hitlery” and “That Thing From New York” back when I used to post on ObamaPundit) and I feel good about that, but having said that, unilateral disarmament doesn’t work…
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YOU look at Sarah Palin as a joke
Some others do because of the relentless character assassination directed towards her
What upsets me (and I don’t even support Palin for President) is that no one had a problem with Edwards as a VP pick in 2004, a totally unqualified man, but Palin, a popular governor and former mayor, UNQUESTIONABLY more qualified than Edwards was eviscerated endlessly
It’s not fair, it’s not honest and it’s GOT to stop!
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well gee, chekote, since I doubt that theghostofreason knew ANYTHING about your mother the joke was not targeted. right?
you’re not 14 years old either
Liz Cheney is impressive…but neither running FOR something, nor in charge of ANYTHING. Thus the Left doesn’t feel the need to attack her en masse…yet.
then your silly statement: “She [Palin] is a celebrity like Kate Gosselin”
Palin is the Governor of what is currently the best managed State in the Union. The impression many Americans have of her was PLANTED…and yes, she needs to overcome it. the “Letterman”s are FEEDING that impression, not feeding OFF it.
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And let’s be REALLY honest here
The dead baby crowd is terrified that a woman who walks her talk, who refuses to kill her “defective” child, once elevated to high national office, might CHANGE PEOPLE’S HEARTS AND MINDS about abortion and move the country to a true pro-life footing and they will do ANYTHING to prevent that
That’s the REAL issue here, now and always…
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in other news…
it looks like Mousavi has lost to Amadinejad in Iran. Drat. Mousavi didn’t favor killing all the Jews…he wanted to keep some as “pets”.
oh well…back to stopping trespassing!
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I think it’s past time for Chekote to do yet another I’m outta here post.
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in other news…
it looks like Mousavi has lost to Amadinejad in Iran. Drat. Mousavi didn’t favor killing all the Jews…he wanted to keep some as “pets”.
oh well…back to stopping trespassing!
Well if that’s so it’s another set-back for 0bama.
I heard at least one “news reporter” saying that if Amadinejad lost it would show that 0bama’s new approach to Iran was working.
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I don’t think you make a relevant point by repackaging the disrespect bestowed on one person, and dispatching it onto another. In other words I was not “Wowed” by the prose composed with Chekote in mind.
However, I think the discourse on Palin is now subject to how you view the woman.
Chekote doesn’t appear to appreciate the leadership qualities that others here see in Palin.
However, I think the one quality of Palin, that ironically was the one which helped Obama take this country by storm, is her tremendous appeal to the base, galvanizing them to energetically get out the vote.
Chekote, though, hones in on Palin’s unsophisticated mannerisms and less-that-perfect family. This characteristic does put off some of the electorate. But, the fact that Palin is still standing, fighting and incites so much passion is a plus as far as what her political future might hold for her.
…Just my opinion.
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Justrand — where are you receiving the feed that Mousavi lost, as I have heard just the opposite?
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Maybe it was the AP story on Hot Air:
But, it still doesn’t sound “official,” especially since the turn-out was so large. At least that is what I am hoping….
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“TEHRAN, Iran — Iran’s state news agency is reporting that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has won re-election, but a reformist rival is also claiming victory.
The rival claims came even before the close of polls on Friday. Official results are not expected until Saturday.” — As reported by janzam
Now hold on just one dang minute!! Is the press trying to tell me that Ahmadinejad is a Democrat following a great tradition of counting chads, digging up bodies and double voting? I never would have thought it.
And here I just thought he was a tin pot dictator.
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then your silly statement: “She [Palin] is a celebrity like Kate Gosselin”
A large segment view Palin as such. Look we are not going to get out of the hole conservatism is in through denial. I am just stating facts.
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THIS is the bullshit up on Yahoo news now:
Awkward Palin interview
Sarah Palin has an uncomfortable exchange with Matt Lauer on “The Today Show.” » Still mad at Dave
if you’ve seen the interview you know this is EXACTLY 180 degrees from accurate. yet most folks will glance at this and it will be INKED as gospel for them!!
And the picture is the worst they could find!
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LOL drdog!
Some more humor….from No Left Turns blog, a video asking the question,”Are women born this way?” You’ll see why it is phrased this way as soon as you click on the clip.
The “Talk”
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chekote, I’m really tired of you.
THIS is what you wrote: “She is a celebrity like Kate Gosselin”
and now explain it as: “A large segment view Palin as such.”
see the difference?
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JR,
That is why I keep saying, the best thing the Reps can do is just ignore the press. Don’t do interviews. Don’t go on TV. Tell the ‘View’ to pound sand.
Take it to the people, its the only venue where they have a chance of a fair shake.
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That’s the REAL issue here, now and always…
I am so fed up with your meme that there is a group of people just itching to kill babies. Why don’t you try to inform yourself? I have been reading the stories of people who visited Dr. Tiller’s office. Tragic, catastrophic situations. People who were devasted. There was not itching to kill anybody. Here is a story from one of Dr. Tiller’s patient:
So much for the blood thristy killer looking to turn a buck by killing healthy, viable babies. Try informing yourself before going into your usual hysterics and accusing people of not supporting a candidate because she CHOSE to have a baby with Down Syndrome. I don’t care what CHOICE she made as long as she and her family are making these important decisions and not a bureaucrat or strangers like you.
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JustRand
I am tired of you repeating 14 year old when Letterman EMPHATICALLY denied it. This is what I posted:
You guys need to understand that a large section of the American public view Sarah Palin as a joke. She is a celebrity like Kate Gosselin.
To a large section of America she is a celebrity. That’s it. If don’t want to believe it fine. If you want to believe that Letterman meant Willow. Fine.
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Jan
Only time will tell what happens with Palin. The difference is that the Dems’ base is larger than the GOP base. So a candidate that only appeals to the GOP is not going to win the general election. It doesn’t matter whether it is Palin, Huck, Romney, etc. As of now, Palin does not appeal outside the social conservative base.
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chekote, the “Dr. Tiller was GOD!” site is elsewhere on the internet…go there with your “heartfelt” tribute. Your “splendid” tale explains why Tiller only claimed he killed 60,000 babies…and not 60,001
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Someone’s good intentions don’t always necessarily forgive what was said. Letterman may or may not have meant Bristol, but since the only daughter with Palin, that evening at the ball park, was her younger one, than the implication took it’s toll on that daughter — dragging a 14 year old down in the mud.
Letterman should have been a man and simply apologized for his mistake, instead of all the insincere wisecracking and side-show of an explanation that was only given to elicit more laughs from the audience.
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chekote: “I am tired of you repeating 14 year old when Letterman EMPHATICALLY denied it.”
Death Rows across America are filled with killers who to a man (and woman) “EMPHATICALLY” deny they did it!
Hitler in 1938 “EMPHATICALLY” denied he had “any other territorial ambitions”
my last speeding ticket I “EMPHATICALLY” denied I was speeding…knowing full well I was going 20 miles over the speed limit (got the ticket anyway)
do I need to go on??
Letterman Lied
Chekote Cried
Tiller got Fried
Chekote Cried
etc…
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I saw that interview and it was not very well done. I cringed a few times and Lauer worked her. She lets it happen to her too often. The interviewers see an opportunity to exploit the situation and she takes the bait and runs with it.
I am a big fan of Palin’s, but she really needs to get some coaching and study her performances.
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Chekote — When you look at the low percentages of people actually voting, there is a large cache of registered voters not participating in the process.
Why is that?
Could it be that there are no candidates good enough, so far, that excite them enough to put on their shoes and pull that lever?
Conservatives, if you haven’t noticed, are a tough and independent lot. They uaually vote for people they like. If none present themselves they are likely to stay home and vegetate.
Perhaps, a Palin figure, would get the rest of those non-participating voters up, and the base would prove to be “larger” than in the past — large enough to successfully compete with the robotic, lock-step dim base.
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Shocker! I actually agree with Jan’s recent comments!
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Your “splendid” tale explains why Tiller only claimed he killed 60,000 babies…and not 60,001
For Dr. Tiller to have killed 60K he would have had to perform 1,500 procedures a year, about 4 a day for 40 years with not one day of vacation. Also, the CDC statistics show that Kansas reported approx. 400-500 late term proceduresm per year. The numbers don’t back up the crazy claims by some in the pro-life movement.
I would highly recommend that people read some of the stories about what leads people to opt to terminate later in the pregnacy. Truly tragic circumstances. Nothing done on a whim. Sullivan is showing how we should conduct a debate about this highly emotional, complicated issue.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/its-so-personal-holoprosencephaly.html
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BCL
We’ve agreed in the past too…just not the “recent” past. Most of us here have more in common than just what we argue about…thank goodness!
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I saw that interview and it was not very well done.
I thought she did fine. She does need to slow down her speech. Same Sarah as on Hannity.
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‘A large segment view Palin as such’
That is Chekote’s unproven, unfounded assertion, confidently given because it fits her views.
Chekote is entirely shaped by media, which seems to dominate her perceptions
In 1980, she would have been part of the crowd deriding Reagan and completely shocked by his landslide win.
She is the last one to ask about how conservatism can recover. It’s like asking a Beltway media consultant.
As far as her infatuation with Liz Cheny, if she thinks Palin has got an image problem, what does she think the Cheney name is going to do?
Dr. Dog’s comment yesterday was spot on–look at the people that are most vociferously attacked by the Left. Those are the ones that they fear. The Left fears Palin, for the reasons stated by MFG and others, and they know that she can be their undoing, which is why she must be destroyed.
My guess is that they are in for a shock.
Just like Chekote.
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I am a big fan of Palin’s, but she really needs to get some coaching and study her performances.
How dare you say that? She is perfection! You must be a communist!
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Been busy today, but glad to see lots of activity on this important topic.
conservativetony mentioned Mike Murphy. To me, guys like Murphy represent what’s wrong with the GOP. He’s one of these guys that is always ready to knive the GOP for the sake of his liberal buddies.
99% of all GOP strategists have one thing in common: they suck.
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‘So a candidate that only appeals to the GOP is not going to win the general election. It doesn’t matter whether it is Palin, Huck, Romney, etc. As of now, Palin does not appeal outside the social conservative base’
Same old crap about moving left and tossing social conservatives, so Chekote can feel good about abortion and atheism.
Conservatives should look at what the Chekotes of the world are recommending and do the exact opposite.
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Phineas
You are right on about Palin — people on the left are scared sh*tless about her.
Right after the GOP converntion the MSM was speechless, in shock on how to handle this female phenomena.
Once they huddled together, found their footing, the solution was to humiliate her and her family, make them as small as possible.
They’ve been on this quest ever since.
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Somebody brought up strategy — Well there is only 2 needed —
A) Who spends your money better? You or the government?
B) If this country can’t afford something without government involvement how do you expect to afford it WITH government involvement when they take 17% off the top? Or shall we say how can YOU afford it with 17% added to the cost.?
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Chekote wrote:
“I am tired of you repeating 14 year old when Letterman EMPHATICALLY denied it.”
And Hitler EMPHATICALLY denied that he had no plans to invade Poland. The simple fact, which Chekote will refuse to admit, is that Palin’s visit which started on Friday in Auburn, NY received extensive media coverage. Willow was pictured and named in articles online and in the media. The script for the show was probably written early Monday. If you choose to believe Letterman, so be it.
By associating Bristol Palin with Elliott Spitzer, Letterman was insinuating that Bristol is a whore since Spitzer is known for paying for sex. Since Letterman was not married when she had his child, doesn’t that make Regina Letterman a whore? Perhaps the world’s ugliest whore.
Given his personal life, Letterman is the last one who should be criticizing Bristol Palin for her moral lapses. Letterman is an absolute hypocrite.
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The left, aided by the media (actually part of the left) will do anything possible to marginalize any conservative. You saw it with Bobby Jindal’s response to Obama’s State of the Union (or whatever they call it now). Some of the comments were racially insensitive. No one said boo. Imagine the outrage on the left if anyone made a comment with racial overtones about Obama.
I like Liz Cheney a lot. I think she has done a great job of addressing the issues and stating her case. But, watch what happens if she starts to gain traction. I can see SNL now with a skit involving Liz and her father planning ways to torture people.
The left will ridicule and marginalize any conservative who, in their opinion, is a formidable opponent. We have two choices – fight back or learn to live with it. I don’t like the second option.
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Janzam –
You couldn’t be more correct. If you remember immediately after Palin’s acceptance speech, her popularity spiked and McCain moved ahead of Obama in the polls (for the only time between the day Obama secured his party’s nomination and election day).
I am certain there were phone calls and meetings between network executives and Democratic Party officials discussing ways to marginalize Palin. Of course, they would EMPHATICALLY deny that would ever happen … and there are those who would believe their EMPHATIC denials, just as Chamberlain believed Hitler’s EMPHATIC denials.
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For Dr. Tiller to have killed 60K he would have had to perform 1,500 procedures a year, about 4 a day for 40 years with not one day of vacation. Also, the CDC statistics show that Kansas reported approx. 400-500 late term proceduresm per year. The numbers don’t back up the crazy claims by some in the pro-life movement.
Then listen to the man’s words from his own mouth:
http://www.dr-tiller.com/images/sixtythousand.mp3
Hey, I guess he is a hard worker. Hope they find something for him to do in hell.
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The pace is picking up —–> rwy is back!
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99% of all GOP strategists have one thing in common: they suck.
That is something I can 100% agree with.
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The left (and Chekote) are calling O’Reilly a liar, and saying he made up the 60,000 number by himself.
O’ Reilly is an arrogant boob, and ignorant at times, but not a liar.
The left, of course, are ALWAYS lying. Seems like Chekote is all in with the left on the issue of Tiller’s killing.
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You saw it with Bobby Jindal’s response to Obama’s State of the Union
Even Phineas called it a hostage tape. I guess PG is part of the conspiracy to marginalize conservatives.
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Now Letterman is Hitler for making a tasteless, inappropriate joke. You guys are the flip side of the Kos kids.
You idiot, Letterman SAID WILLOW. Just because he got on his unicycle and started backpedaling in the face of criticism does not change what he actually said, and we are not calling for any violation of his speech rights, we are merely calling him an a**hole for joking about the sexual abuse of a 14 year old girl to tell a worthless joke.
That is way beyond anything Rush or Imus have said. Besides, Letterman has not been funny for at least 10 years.
Just stop lying about everything. Your Steinem-Plath syndrome is getting worse.
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Yahoo, glad to see you…..although wasting your time with Chip is kind of boring, eh?
I got my ammo ordered from Georgia-Arms….thanks.
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Should government get involved or should individual familities allowed to deal with tragic situations such as this:
I cannot imagine these families having to go through the picket lines by Operation Rescue crazies screaming at them. Strangers that knew nothing about the catastrophic circumstances involved. Want to stop the denigration of women? Don’t stop with railing against Letterman’s tasteless jokes. Start railing against the falsehood that women after 21 weeks of pregnancy decide to end it because of a “headache”.
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Good news, bro. Yes, Chekote is a waste of time. But maybe someone who reads the posts will make up their mind one way or another.
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Let’s face it, Letterman is an ass.
He and other people like him utter crap like this all the tiem because it endears them to like-minded people. Its like he’s ten and unable to stand up to peer group pressure. I haven’t heard, but has he blamed his writers for making him tell the joke? “Somebody else made me do it,” is common in those individuals who would even consider doing something like this in the first place.
Letterman did this to be hurtful to the Palin family and to Conservatives, but there is no doubt he also thought he was being funny and would get laughing praise from his kind of people on the left.
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Chipotle, you poor thing.
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Start railing against the falsehood that women after 21 weeks of pregnancy decide to end it because of a “headache”.
For us to do that, it would have to be a falsehood, and it most definitely is not.
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Letterman SAID WILLOW
Here is the YouTube clip of the joke:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5g8kE_g-YA
Letterman never used the name Willow. Go on and on with the idiocy that Letterman advocated the rape of a 14 year old while Obama and the Dems are busy taking over healthcare. I swear, the Dems must be doing this stuff on purpose so that all the conservative energy goes towards these distractions instead of against Obama.
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Death to murderers. And to the murderers of children above all.
Example number one as to why the GOP needs to ditch the pro-life crazies. The government can’t choose our healthcare, our transportation, our housing but government is more than able to make a decision on how to deal with a fetus with not brain, no heart, no lungs. No wonder the American people doesn’t believe the GOP when they say the want “limited government”.
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Let’s face it, Letterman is an ass.
He has been for years. That’s why I don’t watch him.
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He referred to Palin’s daugher who was with her. He knew which daughter was with Sarah. He didn’t have to mention the name Willow–it was inferred. Or was that implied. I get them mixed up.
Your argument would be like me saying “You are a pro-death abortion fanatic.”
Even though I don’t mention anybody by name, it’s safe to say I’m not talking about Right Wing Yahoo.
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As far as the Tiller audio, he did not say 60,000 late term terminations like BOR is running around saying. BOR needs to check the CDC stats before he opens his mouth. Speaking of lies, the imagery of fetuses being cut up in the womb to get people’s emotions up. Read through the stories. That’s not what happens.
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The government can’t choose our healthcare, our transportation, our housing but government is more than able to make a decision on how to deal with a fetus with not brain, no heart, no lungs.
Your Steinem-Plath syndrome again. The government has a constitutional obligation to protect life, liberty and property. You need to stop lying. Internal organs are present in the bodies of aborted babies.
No wonder the American people doesn’t believe the GOP when they say the want “limited government”.
No one has the right to kill children. You are deciding to take a life, something you have no right to do. This is not a decision about health care or cars.
You are quite a liar.
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look, an argument with a pro-abortion fanatic! Now who would that be. Not Chekote.
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He knew which daughter was with Sarah
I doubt it. Both kids look similar age.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Palin_family_retouched.jpg
I doubt that Letterman spent his day following Palin’s movement. Probably some hack on his staff wrote the “joke”.
Good looking family!
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How about we get the federal government out of the abortion business and let the states decide?
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Dang nice pic! She’s only 14??
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Oh look Tony! A Pro-Abortion Death Fanatic!
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No one has the right to kill children.
No one as the right to psychologically torture women and by making them watch their abnornal babies die grueling deaths in front of their eyes. You are misogynist and cruel.
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No one as the right to psychologically torture women .
You mean a headache?
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You mean a headache?
Misogynist. I wonder why the GOP has such a gender gap.
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Brandon,
What do you think about the Palin/Letterman situation?
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad EMPHATICALLY denies the Holocost ever occurred
Bill Clinton EMPHATICALLY denied that he had sex with Monica Lewinsky
I EMPHATICALLY deny that the Phillies won last year’s World Series.
Using Chekote’s PEA-BRAINED logic:
The Holocost never occured, Clinton never had sex with Lewinsky and the Phillies didn’t win the 2008 World Series.
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two different situations…the murderer of Tiller targeted ONLY Tiller. The TERRORIST who shot at the Recruiters wanted to kill MORE of them…and lamented that he couldn’t. The one is a lone assassin, the other is trying to instill terror through indiscriminate killing.
btw..I added to your post up above. don’t mis-quote me!
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Go pay your tax and vote Dem then, and good riddance to you too. If you want “our” permission to kill kids in order to vote for “us”, ( I really don’t think you do, anyway), you can go to hell.
Grow up, accept life for what it is, and stop claiming the right to spread misery and death at your whim, like your fellow democrats do.
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Unfortunate statement blown way out of proportion.
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The soldier’s assassin said that he was justified because innocent Muslim women and children were being murdered by American soldiers.
except that Tiller WAS killing kids, but our soldiers are not killing any “innocent Muslim women and children”.
One is the truth, the other a lie. But don’t let that stop you.
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Brandon…at least make that PLURAL. Remeember, this was TWO nights running. The second night is Elliot Spitzer “knocking up” Palin’s daughter.
Letterman’s fallen back to the “me and my staff are so incompetant that even AFTER people scream at us that only Pali’s 14 year old was there…we do essentially the SAME JOKE”
oh, and his other “defense” (chekote especailly loves this one) is that since the 18 year had a child out of wedlock she is fair game to WHATEVER is said about her!
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Chekote is parroting Kos today, start to finish.
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I thought it was A-Rod knocking her up?
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yes she is.
Brandon, did you read my post? I ask because in light of it, what would you consider to be the PROPER “proportion“??
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Krauthammer just agreed with me over this Palin/Letterman feud. Palin is losing. Letterman is an idiot. If she wants to be considered for higher office she needs to spend her time discussing serious issues instaed of going on and on about Letterman advocating statuatory rape of her daughter.
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that was night ONE…he came back night TWO using Elliot Spitzer.
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“And Hitler EMPHATICALLY denied that he had no plans to invade Poland
Now Letterman is Hitler for making a tasteless, inappropriate joke. You guys are the flip side of the Kos kids.”
Chekote – You must be off your meds again. What I was pointing out was that people deny things all the time, knowing they are not true with that being a very obvious example. I did not compare Letterman to Hitler other than I believe they are both liars.
I honest believe you are totally off your trolley.
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Unfortunate statement blown way out of proportion.
Exactly my point. A tasteless joke followed by a huge over-reaction and stretching of the facts.
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He explained what he meant, and that should have been the end of it. It’s not like he is the POTUS, he is just a late night comedian that most people don’t even watch anyway. I’m not saying she shouldn’t be upset, but it shouldn’t be dragging on like this.
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lol, Chekote is really going insane over Sarah Palin.
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chekote, SHE is not “going on and on”.
you are going on and on in your defense of Letterman!
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let Letterman burn. He made a pedophile joke, straight from the gutter which is where the left is.
nobody is going to hurt poor widdle Dave. We are saying, if the righties can be pilloried for much less than this, then let Letterman stew for a bit.
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Brandon: “He explained what he meant, and that should have been the end of it.”
see: Senator George Allen vis-a-vis “macaca”
(and a million other examples!)
the reality, Brandon, is that as SOON as a Letterman gets nailed they say: “I spoke inartfully” and then the media says: END OF STORY!
but when a George Allen, for example, says “that’s not what I meant” they are drummed out of office! Look up what happened with George Allen…and the FACT that the Washinton Post ran that non-stop above-the-fold until he lost the election…and then NEVER again!
the rules are being set by the OTHER side…we’re playing by them!
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JustRand
Why don’t you just go and do a citizen arrest on Letterman for tasteless jokes? Palin is coming out the loser. Once again she finds herself in Page Six type of controversy. Bad jokes. Move on.
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“Brandon, What do you think about the Palin/Letterman situation?”–chek
Chek, he already covered for you when he said “Dang nice pic! She’s only 14??”
Nice try, coming to Chek’s defense, Brandon, but it’s too little too late.
I wonder when Letterman saw Willow did he say, “Damn! Oh, Okay, she looks old enough for me to call her a whore.”
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p.s. to Brandon…more reading
this woman happens to BE hard-Left… hattip Salon
http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/06/12/letterman_palin/index.html
be interesting to get your opinion
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you are going on and on in your defense of Letterman!
I am defending Letterman by saying that he made a tasteless, inappropriate joke. That is he is an ass not worth watching. Are you sure you don’t need new glasses?
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chekote wrote:
“You saw it with Bobby Jindal’s response to Obama’s State of the Union
Even Phineas called it a hostage tape. I guess PG is part of the conspiracy to marginalize conservatives.”
I don’t deny it was a very bad presentation by Jindal. My objection was to “Wooden Indian” comment and other racial slurs.
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chekote, since you’re throwing out hypotheticals…
fast forward 6 weeks and Letterman makes essentially the SAME JOKE about a “Palin daughter”, over a couple nights. Then on night 3 says: “Of course those were about the OLDER daughter [laughter]”
your reaction would still be “YAWN” right?
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comment deleted due to gross stupidity!
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My objection was to “Wooden Indian” comment and other racial slurs.
I am so tired of political correctness. A Don Rickles would be impossible today. Same with Archie Bunker. I used to have a T-Shirt with WOP across by gorgeous chest. Couldn’t get away with wearing that nowdays. We have become so bland and boring.
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reminder to Chekote:
THIS thread is based on the article I wrote at the top…which means it is based on FINALLY established some boundaries and defending them!
Palin is just one example of the 99.99% one-sided and 100% malicious attacks on Conservative women! The gal from Salon nailed it perfectly! the mysoginists are hanging out on the LEFT…cause no one calls them on it over there!
but the thread itself is about not letting the Left routinely and wantonly trespass against us and then walk away with a “Opps…I misspoke” (as the audience laughs)
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comedy is fine…balance would be nice…but even without it it’s fine. But 14 and 18 year old girls don’t deserve to have aging assholes trash them on national TV…to gales of laughter!
Still, I’m old fashioned, so I would simply beat the shit out of Letterman if I was Todd Palin.
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Senator George Allen vis-a-vis “macaca”
What hurt Allen was his claim that he didn’t know where the word came from.
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Justrand –
You are right. There are no rules. That’s why we need to escalate the war against the media. We have absolutely nothing to lose.
While I am not normally pleeased to see family members get attacked, I was plesaed to see how aceofspades.com and its readers attacked Letterman’s wife earlier this week.
While we may not like it, we need to start adapting the tactics of the left or they will destroy us.
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What hurt Allen was that Va is full of idiot voters who deserve what they get from the democrats, screw them.
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chekote: “What hurt Allen was his claim that he didn’t know where the word came from.”
apparently he didn’t say it “EMPHATICALLY”
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Senator George Allen vis-a-vis “macaca”
“What hurt Allen was his claim that he didn’t know where the word came from.”
As opporse to saying, “I didn’t intend to call Willow Plain a slut. I just meant to call her sister and mother sluts.”
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excellent point, theghostofreason
DONE!
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I used to have a T-Shirt with WOP across by gorgeous chest.
Another lefty trait: Iden(tittie) politics…
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comment deleted due to gross stupidity!
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Maybe we should send Ghost of Reason’s comment to Sarah Palin. She can use to inspire people to stand up against the misogynists on the right.
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Chekote, observe again how sensitive you are to silly insults, while you advocate the knife for babies.
You just spent all day telling Palin and her 14 year old daughter to grow up and be tough, and now you are crying because you got c-worded as a mature adult.
Hey Ghost, I guess your name is not Letterman so Chekote cannot accept your language.
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Chekote…. the turd that sticks to a dog’s ass. Anyway, outta here guys. Enjoy the rest of the night. I’m off to see if my Penguins can come up with a shocker in Detroit!
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Question, if the joke would have been about Hillary and Chelsea(when she was younger), would you have been upset?
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Who would make a sex joke about Hillary or Chelsea?
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You can’t answer a question with a question.
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Question, if the joke would have been about Hillary and Chelsea(when she was younger), would you have been upset?
No. This is just manufactured outrage so that they can go on and on about how unfair everything is. Victimhood has taken over the right.
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As long as women agree with them fine. A woman disagrees, she is a c-word.
lol. It’s not because you disagree with us…… hahahahaha.
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You can’t answer a question with a question.
grow a pair, get over yourself.
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No. This is just manufactured outrage so that they can go on and on about how unfair everything is. Victimhood has taken over the right.
What a liar you are. We are not advocating Letter-douche be fired or censored, like the left always demands. We are saying it was way over the top and it clearly was.
but like always, you side with the left. I wonder why?
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So you’re basically admitting that it would be fine with you if it was about someone else and just not God Palin. Got it.
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As long as women agree with them fine. A woman disagrees, she is a c-word.
Where is your sense of humor? You tell the Palins to lighten up. Maybe you should lighten up.
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Brandon:
“Question, if the joke would have been about Hillary and Chelsea(when she was younger), would you have been upset?”
I normally think family members should be off limits unless they break the law (Gore’s son, Biden’s daughter is, in fact, she was snorting cocaine).
I expect Hillary would have shrugged it off if it was about her as Sarah does. If you remember during the primaries, David Schuster (who is the A$$hole’s A$$hole anyway) used the term “pimped up” referring to Chelsea Clinton (who is now about 30). If you remember (and apparently you don’t) Hillary and her staff complained and NBC suspended Schuster for several days. Again the double standard.
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So you’re basically admitting that it would be fine with you if it was about someone else and just not God Palin. Got it.
funnily enough, sissy, that’s not what I said. Stop behaving like a hyperventilating leftist hermaphrodite, Mr. Smalley.
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Actually, you didn’t say much at all. So I took your silence as a yes to my question. Be my guest to answer the question any time soon.
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I am a c-word because I happen to think Letterman is telling the truth.
you are far too sensitive to go outside. You should mop the floors before I get home. 😀
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Be my guest to answer the question any time soon.
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BC
Shuster didn’t even mean it as a joke. For God’s sake, Letterman has being doing this crap for decades. Once in a while he comes up with something funny but most of his jokes are tasteless, stupid and not worth the days and days of controversy.
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Chekote –
You really need to lighten up. It is just tastelss humor. I am sure the poster will EMPHATICALLY apologize at some time in the future; like probably 2-3 days later when he realizes it was you and not your older sister.
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Look who is playing the victim. Hi victim!
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I remember Margaret Carlson when she on the show “Capital Gang”.
I intensely dislike her. Always have. Just a bitter snarky leftist.
And she’s abhorrently wrong of course. David Letterman didn’t make that joke about Bristol Palin (we’ll assume for a second it wasn’t Willow Palin) because she is a spokeperson for an abstinence organization. He did so because she is the daughter of Sarah Palin, a woman he he has an inexplicably passionate hatred for.
Despite that, even if it was because she is a spokesperson for an abstinence campaign, that doesn’t merit her being portrayed as a tramp by a washed up late night comedian.
Carlson is just trying to justify the loathing of Sarah Palin by herself and her sick ilk. I wish I could tell her how wrong she is right to her damn face.
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comment deleted due to gross stupidity!
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I’m not playing sissy moral equivalence games with R party hermaphrodites eaten up with high school political correctness, or Steinem-Plath NOW advocates.
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BC
I will remind you of that when others you like and agree with are called the c-word. Where is JustRand?
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Chekote –
Now I get it. It’s okay to sexually insult women when you are supposedly trying to be homorous, but it’s not okay if you are not trying to be humorless. And, there’s no double-standard (conservatives vs. liberals, Clinton vs. Palin). Makes sense to me (as much as anything else you say).
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RWY, it’s pretty obvious you won’t answer my question because it will reveal you as a brazen hypocrite.
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196 comments on what??????????????
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chekote, I’m here…and while I don’t approve of the “C-word”, I find you as a grown woman suddenly playing the blushing vestil virgin a bit ironic!
still…it would be nice to get back to talking about the larger topic:
LEAVING CHILDREN OUT OF SMUTTY POLITICAL DISCOURSE!
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Chekote. It’s not my thread so I cannot remove the comment. Seriously, I do agree it should be removed. If it was my thread, I could remove it, but I do not have the ability to edit threads that are not mine.
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Brandon, I’ll speak for me (now that I’m back)…
I don’t approve of ANYONE dragging families into any of this crap!
That said…if only ONE side plays by civil rules, then what’s the point???
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my last add to Brandon and chekote on this subject…coming up! 🙂
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I think it would fair play for Ghost’s comments to be removed.
I recall that sort of language invaded the PP site, and it turned a lot of people off — both male and female.
You can still get your opinion across to people without being rude and crude.
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Dude. Perhaps I should have gotten home in time to make a poetry night thread.
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I do find it amusing, however, that you see this as bjectionable and yet defend Letterman when he makes comments that I find equally objectionable. Perhaps, Letterman’s comments are worse, because while the “c” word is definitely a slur, it does not reflect on your morals as Letterman’s comments did on the Palin woman.
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Liz Cheny has demostrated an ability to effectively take on the MSM. Palin has not. Even BCL said so and she is hardly pro-choice.
Don’t use me to back up your lame arguments. Here’s what I said.
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2009 June 12 1:46 pm
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I saw that interview and it was not very well done. I cringed a few times and Lauer worked her. She lets it happen to her too often. The interviewers see an opportunity to exploit the situation and she takes the bait and runs with it.
I am a big fan of Palin’s, but she really needs to get some coaching and study her performances.
BTW, I am not a she, not that there’s anything wrong with that. 🙂
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Comment from FreeRepublic:
What do David Letterman and K-Mart have in common?
They both have boys’ underwear half off.
HEY! CAN’T TAKE A JOKE??? I WAS JUST BEING HIP AND EDGY!
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bc3b
But, you don’t condone something only because somewhat else, who is an idiot, has done the same thing.
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the idiot being —–Letterman
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FYI- this thread will be getting pruned at some point tonight after I have had a glass of wine. I love a good debate- but seriously this thread got out of hand.
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As I said, I agree it should be removed. I do, however, see the irony in being upset by this and calling Sarah Palin and her daughters sluts and making the insinuations that her daughters are whores.
Also, how many times did Chekote say that Palin needs to lighten up and not take Letterman’s insults as anything but humor.
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chekote, I don’t actually think you’re stupid, though some of your comments touch that line! 🙂
So why would an intelligent adult not be able to follow this very simple thread of logic:
Day 1: aging lecher with national TV show accuses teenage daughter of national figure of either being sexually active with middle-aged baseball player or raped by same…gets big laugh…doesn’t specify which daughter…so it COULD be the 18 year old. Joke involves being WITH Mom at baseball game! Clear?
MORNING of Day 2: STORMS of protest, and numerous articles pointing out that the daughter in question is FOURTEEN!
EVENING of Day 2: aging lecher with national TV show accuses teenage daughter of national figure of either being sexually active with OLD ex-politico or raped by same…gets big laugh…doesn’t specify which daughter…BUT for previous 24 hours everyone in New York has been SCREAMING about the fact that the daughter who WAS “promiscuous” did NOT go to New York AT ALL!
Day 3: Massive publicity…all bad…for aging lecher. He goes on his national TV show and laughs his way thru an “apology”…offering up lame excuse that he meant to demean a DIFFERENT daughter. The man’s “courage” is obvious…he snickers as he hides behind what he KNOWS will solid support from the left!
Day 4: Media accepts lame excuse…says “nothing to see here…move along”.
So why are we still talking about this?
Because it is a SYMPTOM of what happens repeatedly…and sooner or later we need to take a stand! Letterman simply said that he meant to insult a DIFFERENT teen-age girl by calling her a tramp…and the media says: “WHEW!”
this isn’t just about Palin. It’s also about Playboy with the lsit of women it wants “Hate F*cked”, it’s about the NY Times running defamtory articles about Palin non-stop for days after her selection as VP…and then quietly retracting ALL of them!
the other side is shooting at us…and you believe we should take it?
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Agreed bc3b, totally, BUT that word is in my top 5 no nos.
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prune the thread, JM…freely!
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Also, how many times did Chekote say that Palin needs to lighten up and not take Letterman’s insults as anything but humor.
Show me where I said that. JustMary can pull up the posts. I have said over and over that Letterman is an idiot. He is not funny. It was a tastesless and inappropriate joke. I do think he meant Bristol. I didn’t take what he said a advocating the rape of a 14 year old. I don’t see this as defending Letterman. I am not as exercised about this as you guys because it has been going on for years now. People on both side make stupid, inappropriate jokes.
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Not that she was ever beauty queen material, but has Margaret Carlson ever gotten old and uglier.
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Because it is a SYMPTOM of what happens repeatedly…and sooner or later we need to take a stand!
You can start by setting an example here at BJG.
I don’t see why it is okay to be abusive towards people who happen not to agree with others on a particular issue, situation, etc. Actions speak louder than words.
Letterman is an idiot. He constantly makes lame, stupid, tasteless jokes. Case close. Move on. In this controversy Palin is the loser as Krauthammer said.
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Hopefully Letterman’s comments and John Ziegler’s actions will activate conservatives.
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“In this controversy Palin is the loser as Krauthammer said.”
BOR just had a PR executive on who doesn’t agree woth you and Krathammer.
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Chekote, why do you think you get into arguments on these blogs with almost everybody almost all of the time?
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chekote: “I am not as exercised about this as you guys because it has been going on for years now. People on both side make stupid, inappropriate jokes.”
it has been going on for years…and the ratio of LEFT versus RIGHT as perpatrators is well over 95/5. Does that make it “ok” when it comes from the Right? No. But when the ratio is 95/5 the “moral eqivalancy” rule doesn’t apply either!
as for “making stupid, inappropriate jokes”, LAST TIME: make them ONCE (and especially once in a while) then it’s easy to walk away. But this was DELIBERATE. Two nights in a row he demeans a young girl. His excuse is now he meant to INSULT A DIFFERENT TEEN-AGE GIRL who has done NOTHING to him!
chekote, if you are EVER on a jury for murder trial, please remember that it is NOT an acceptable defense that the killer meant to kill SOMEONE ELSE!!
hug your daughters, chekote…and truly think about whether they are “fair game”.
my family isn’t either! but right now in this country ALL Conservatives and their family ARE “fair game”.
We’re tired of it.
We’d keep turning the other cheek…but we’ve run out of cheeks!
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actions will activate conservatives
To so what? Pick it Letterman while Obama is nationalizing everything under our nose.
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Let me sum it up for everybody.
Letterman said something incredibly stupid and incensitive, but as is typical of the left, he won’t get punished for it.
The right, who is sick of being treated like second class citizens, mention the inequalities in treatment Letterman got and are in the process of being villified for their efforts.
To determine the winner, I have some inside information that a polling org will settle it for everybody. I got a sneak peak at some of the questions
1. Based on your knowledge of the slutty flight attendant, Sarah Palin, do you agree or disagree that she once trained to be a flight attendant.
2. Bristol is the knocked up daughter the failed VP hopeful, Sarah Palin. Is it appropriate that nobody’s young daughter be allowed to run around with the likes of Alex Rodriguez?
3. Willow has been called Bristol and Bristol has been called Willow in the past. Agree or diagree.
4. While Sarah didn’t deserve to be called a slut because of the way she dresses, she usually doesn’t dress the way you would. Agree or disgree?
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hug your daughters, chekote…and truly think about whether they are “fair game”.
I said it was inappropriate and tasteless. How is that saying that it is fair game? I did say that Bristol becoming a spokesperson for teen pregnancy did open her up for some comments. I NEVER said that Letterman’s joke about being knocked up was okay.
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I would ask everyone to limit discussions on this thread henceforth to the original topic.
that topic is that we need to find ways to STOP the trespassing against Conservative women especially…because they are systematically being abused to shut them up!
Palin is NOT continuing to pursue this…though now chekote and others are CLAIMING she is! Margaret Carlson has already labeled Palin the VILLAIN in this whole affair.
I’m only interested in preventing this happening again. And frankly it is ADVERTISER BOYCOTTS that will do that! They are the ONLY reason Lettermen “apolpgized”!
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Chek- Bristol couldn’t win for losing. She didn’t seek out to be the spokesperson- it was either speak for herself, or have the media speak for her.
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dinner time 🙂
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OT but, can’t wait to read Beck’s book.
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Carlson is an idiot. I had to stop watching Capital Gang because her. NOW has come out against Letterman. Why go on and on about this?
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She didn’t seek out to be the spokesperson.
I disagree. She didn’t have to do interview rounds. She didn’t have to go on the Today and advocated abstinence or anything else. If she were my daughter, I would strongly advice her to stay quite and focus on her life.
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I’m only interested in preventing this happening again. And frankly it is ADVERTISER BOYCOTTS that will do that! They are the ONLY reason Lettermen “apolpgized”!
I would have to watch to find out what to boycott. I haven’t watched Letterman for a decade at least. I used to watch just for the music part and then he went left and I couldn’t stomach him.
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quiet, I mean.
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Chekote, how about an answer to my question @ 5:36.
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Chekote
Many teens who have had problems in their life, made critical mistakes, go on speaking tours trying to convince other teens not to follow their course of action. Teens will listen to other teens, rather than authority figures, like parents.
This happens for drunk driving teens, addicts, and yes teen pregnancy. I think Bristol was doing “Public Service.” Since her mother is into Public Service (politics) maybe it is just a proactive family.
Why begrudge her that, or use that as an excuse to sexually berate her? I do think your take on this is backwards, this evening.
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I used to watch just for the music part and then he went left and I couldn’t stomach him.
Ditto.
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Why begrudge her that, or use that as an excuse to sexually berate her?
How have I done that? Now one cannot say that it would be better for Bristol to stay away from the limelight?
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I disagree. She didn’t have to do interview rounds. She didn’t have to go on the Today and advocated abstinence or anything else. If she were my daughter, I would strongly advice her to stay quite and focus on her life.
I disagree with you right back. She had SO much mud flung at her that she wanted to clear the air. Clearly, even though she regrets premarital sex she is still a “whore” and it is acceptable in the left’s eyes to exploit that. She is doing damage control more than anything else. She made a mistake and wants people to get off her back, and stop calling her a whore. Newsflash- it is pretty tough to be a whore with your legs closed. She is young and attempting to salvage some shred of dignity. One of these days she will try to sink into nothing so she can live a quiet life, but the left will block that as much as possible. If she can be how many miles away and still have a joke “about her not willow” where she plays the whore? She is not being left alone!
I know I have said it on this board before, but I was a teen mom as well. I got it together, I graduated high school with straight A’s. I worked 2 jobs, had NO life…..didn’t have an abortion, tried to go to church (which is SO fun when people stare), minded my own business, took damn good care of my little girl with ZERO public assistance….and those in my community STILL made it their business to trash me at every opportunity. When my (now) Husband and I were dating he was even warned by the women in our church to stay away from me because I was a “Jezebel”. No matter that I was trying so hard to be a good Christian. It hurt. I did as much damage control as I could and did not deserve the treatment I got. The pastor of the church where we went had an affair…..guess what….they ALL (including the pastor) focused their attention on me and allowed that Pastor to continue preaching. I feel for Bristol. At least I was not the daughter of a public figure. My life would have only sucked worse.
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Chekote, why do you think you get into arguments on these blogs with almost everybody almost all of the time?
Because I disagree and people can’t just accept to agree to disagree.
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I were dating he was even warned by the women in our church to stay away from me because I was a “Jezebel”.
That’s why I can’t stand organized religion. The pews have too many hypocrical people who claim to follow Jesus example.
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“That’s why I can’t stand organized religion. The pews have too many hypocrical people who claim to follow Jesus example.”
As opposed to a grown man who fathers a child out of wedlock and mocks a teenage girl who does the same thing.
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We’ll need more than a length of chain and few traffic cones to stop the trespassers…there’re too many of them, and they believe we DESERVE to be trespassed against. Still,the cost of our freedom is that we must at least try!
It has to be done without anger. Anger is seen as a weakness and it will be exploited by the left. That is what Lauer did today. It was subtle, but he worked Palin who showed she was irritated.
Palin has a great message, is a strong woman, but she has to learn to polish her performance.
Speaking on TV is an art. It’s not like arguing in the living room or the back yard with people you know. When people see an unpolished spokesperson on TV next to a polished professional it is not a fair match. It’s not what you say so much as how you say it.
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chekote: “Now one cannot say that it would be better for Bristol to stay away from the limelight?”
you have just validated my entire premise…thank you.
the purpose of the Left’s relentless hammering of all things Palin (in this case) is to send a very clear message:
“If we disapprove of you…will destroy you!”
so the next person thinking of raising their voice up must think AT LEAST twice!
providing “pause” in the OTHER direction is what needs to happen! I guarantee you that Letterman is re-thinking his joke list…but ONLY because of the threatened boycotts!
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Chipotle’s only goal is to keep you off topic and control the debate by making absurd equivalences or similar tactics that make you want to respond to her….and not to constructively pursue the cause of this site or certainly the intent of the original post.
Now…it is obvious that many here enjoy going thru this circular process with her which accomplishes nothing. She is a troll and you will note that she hangs around incessantly when the topic is Sarah or how we need to confront the media. She has nothing constructive to offer.
crazy bruce
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Chekote –
The New York Times ran THREE front page stories on Bristol Palin’s pregnancy the day it was announced. The NYT wouldn’t run three front page stories about WWIII starting (unless it was trying to make Obama look good).
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brucefdb – you are crazy like a fox.
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2009 June 12 6:00 pm
chekote permalink
Chekote, why do you think you get into arguments on these blogs with almost everybody almost all of the time?
Because I disagree and people can’t just accept to agree to disagree.
BZZZZZT Wrong answer.
Nobody here agrees with everything the other persons say. There is only one person who gets it on with almost everybody, all of the time.
It’s you who start it up with everyone and then play the victim. You did it at Poli, you do it here. You need to do some soul searching.
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Nap time.
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“Palin has a great message, is a strong woman, but she has to learn to polish her performance.”
I thought she was pretty good this morning. I have not seen the one on CNN. I thought she did poorly with Hannity Monday.
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That’s why I can’t stand organized religion. The pews have too many hypocrical people who claim to follow Jesus example.
Here is proof of my previous post, the first Christian tenet is that man is fallen. Flawed. That is why you dont give power to man over man.
Christians (if they understand their religion) are not judgemental, because they know that they themselves are weak and sinful, but they do want a moral society so that the evil prevalent in mans nature does not take hold.
But, as the experienced troll she is, she knows that she can offend many of us that post here with that assertion.
She is a waste of your time unless you have nothing better to do. 😉
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For the record, I object to the use of the words Chekote is crying about. It’s not gentlemanly.
I was about to object to its use by ghost, when Chekote revealed her hypocrisy for all to see, and so I then withheld any scold of ghost in order to let chekote experience the same crass disregard she insists on visiting upon the unborn.
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Hey gngang, where have you been?
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We do not claim to follow Jesus. We acknowledge that we SHOULD follow him, but do a pretty lousy job of it.
If we could follow Him perfectly, that would make the crucifixion somewhat moot, would it not?
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brucefdb – where I work has a new filter which prevents me accessing this site (other as well) during the day (really sucks). Thus I have only the evenings and weekends to come here. Last few evenings I have been busy plus it is boring withour RWY.
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Bristol Palin – February 2009 – “Abstinence NOT realistic”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-PFTFwhwEU
Bristol Palin – May 2009 – “Abstinence IS realistic”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOklh-8_v2E
I would NEVER allow my daughter to sit through such uncomfortable interviews discussing her private life. In my book, Sarah has hurt Bristol more that what an idiot comedian said. Sorry but that is my honest opinion.
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she insists on visiting upon the unborn.
Why don’t you go to people’s houses and tell them how to deal with catastrophic pregnancies? I mean you know it all. You are the expert on what is best for every family. Go down to the local hospital while at it. I am sure that some family is struggling with what to do about a relative on life supports. Maybe you can interfere with their decision too.
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Sorry but that is my honest opinion.
Yawn.
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Yeah, yeah. Humans are not perfect. On top of that Christians are forgiven. So they have a green light to be mean to people like JustMary while still claiming to be following Jesus. God is smarter and will take care of those fools.
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Goodnight, Chipotle. Aren’t your 12 hours up yet?
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I saw Palin on the Today Show. I thought she did fine.
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JM, what a story. I knew a girl in high school who did the same thing, kept the baby. What a hero you are, and now you have a daughter/great friend, and a husband and son too. How awesome.
Life. An AWESOME choice. And piss on all those b****es in church snickering and gossiping at you.
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On top of that Christians are forgiven
Yawn, part II.
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Goodnight Crazy Bruce.
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God is smarter and will take care of those fools.
A abortionist hypocrite judging gossiping hypocrites. Oh the irony.
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Our church took part in those Operation Rescue crazies thing during Lent. 41 young people decided to have their babies. Such a sad thing.
G’night guys.
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So they have a green light to be mean to people like JustMary
Who said they had a green light? Not Jesus, that’s for sure.
God is smarter and will take care of those fools.
Hint: Gossiping and being a b**** is bad. Killing babies is worse.
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A abortionist hypocrite judging gossiping hypocrites. Oh the irony.
Go down to the hospital and “help” families deal with their private life.
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Nobody is killing babies fool.
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Well Hannity tried to get more mileage out of this Letterman/double standard controversy and got nowhere. Bad taste is bad taste. Let’s not make it something more than that.
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Go down to the hospital and “help” families deal with their private life.
You’re emotionally disturbed.
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Good night Bruce.
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last post from me for bit…
here is chekote’s FIRST comment this morning [emphasis mine]:
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“I didn’t agree when Imus was kicked off the air for his “nappy” comment. Didn’t care for the joke. I didn’t think it was funny but if we keep kicking people off the air for tasteless, offensive stuff our free speech will mean nothing. Also, has everyone here forgotten the kind of vitriol that was directed at Hillary from the Right? It is no different than what Palin is getting from the Left. It seems that too many can dish it but can’t take it.”
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this is a just a handful of comments in…and the article I wrote point outs some of the BRUTAL things being directed at Conservative women in general (the “Hate F*ck” list, music-videos demeaning Conservative women, Lettermen, etc).
chekote’s first comment is not to show ANY outrage at the things being directed at those women…but rather to find “moral equivalence” between the words thrown at Hillary by a few with the avalanche of disgusting things thrown at Palin and her family!
I went back to see what chekote’s FIRST inclination was…and it was to STAUNCHLY DEFEND THE LEFT! All day that theme of “let’s let Lettermen off the hook”, and “Let’s trust that Lettermen is telling the truth”, etc…
“Hate F*ck” lists, demeaning music-videos, children implied to be trashly sluts that will have sex with a baseball player (A-Rod) or a 60+ year old pervert (Spitzer) are not where her sympathies lie.
And that is how I got roped into letting her take me and the thread off topic and off target.
my intent was to have a discussion about how to fight back…and how to put up those “no trespassing” signs, and make the “Lettermans” of the world think twice about trespassing! We never got there.
good job, chekote…you de-railed the thread as you intended.
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Don’t want to get dragged into the Letterman/Palin debate. My views won’t change other peoples views any who. But, if you think Letterman stepped over the line then you need to read this blog posting — link
Finally someone on the Right is taking a clue from the Left on how to get results. If you want to take Letterman down, go after the advertisers. If they pull out then Letterman is cooked.
The choice I leave to you.
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Informative post,Drdog.
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It doesn’t necessarily work that way, Dr. Dog. The media establishment has displayed a great willingness to put politial ideology above money, as exemplified by dying newspapers refusing to move in more conservative directions to reverse their shrinking reader base.
Television networks as well have stuck with politically favored shows even as they hemorrhage mony.
These are zealots, and their commitment cannot be underestimated.
In the specific case of Lecherman, he is cooked anyway, since he is aging and screamingly unfunny, being rapidly passed by newer comics.
I expect Conan to gradually crush him to powder.
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PG,
The media of course have, it is the cause celeb. But their advertisers will not. Now the network could drag on with Letterman for years. I can grant you that. However the advertisers don’t forget demographics. If they lose 50% share on a $100k buy they will be less likely to invest in a look-a-like in the future.
But I hope they are committed. Right up to the time the bankruptcy judge bangs the gavel.