Matalin: Timing of Cheney Focus Suspect

2009 July 12
by bc3b

“This is very suspect timing,” Republican strategist and former Cheney adviser Mary Matalin said Sunday on CNN’s State of the Union. “The president’s agenda is almost in shambles. His [poll] numbers are dropping. Isn’t it coincidental; they gin up a Cheney story.”

Matalin also said that the Executive branch has some authority under the nation’s intelligence laws to not disclose information to Congress under certain circumstances. “The more people that know, the more it leaks . . . and then the enemy knows what it is,” Matalin said of details about other intelligence programs that were leaked to the media.

“Every time they get in trouble . . . they dredge up a Darth Vader story,” Matalin also said, making a reference to past comparisons between Cheney and the villain in the “Stars Wars’ movies.

Here’s the full story with video.

Hat tip: CNN

93 Responses leave one →
  1. 2009 July 12 4:13 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    The more that people know, the more it leaks.

    Leaky Leahy anybody! How much has he leaked over the years to the detriment of America. If I recall correctly, he was removed from the Senate Intelligence committe due to his leaks.

  2. 2009 July 12 4:16 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Vell, Matalin vas ze strategist behind ze Fred Thomzon campaign. Enough said.

  3. 2009 July 12 4:17 pm
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    MFG permalink

    Of course

    Bushitler! Bushitler! Bushitler!

    Works every time

    And of course, Holder is doing this on his own

    Sure…

  4. 2009 July 12 4:34 pm
    [4]
    bc3b permalink

    A$$holerod and Emanuel are looking for any way to deflect attention from Obama’s failures.

    The same is true with the FreeRepublic.com charges. Watch for them to try to label any criticism of Obama as “racist.”

  5. 2009 July 12 4:36 pm
    [5]
    bc3b permalink

    chekote –

    “Vell, Matalin vas ze strategist behind ze Fred Thomzon campaign. Enough said.”

    Marrying “SnakeHead” was an even bigger mistake, but she’s right on this one.

  6. 2009 July 12 4:47 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Matalin is an idiot in my book. She is right there with Steve Schmidt and DuHaime (the guy who ran the Rudy campaign).

  7. 2009 July 12 4:51 pm
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    justrand permalink

    chek, now that you’ve explained how you feel about HER personnally…have a comment regarding her assessment of the situation?

    why do you so frequently START with character assassination?

  8. 2009 July 12 4:56 pm
    [8]
    bc3b permalink

    Chekote –

    Just once it would be nice if you could focus on the facts rather than character assassinations and your personal vendettas.

  9. 2009 July 12 4:58 pm
    [9]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    It’s like asking a snake not to bite.

  10. 2009 July 12 5:11 pm
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    chekote permalink

    I think her assessment is wrong. I see Pelosi’s fingerprints all over this. She is still trying to save face. Also, the Dems have always attacked the CIA whenever in charge since the 1970s (remember Church?). So I don’t believe it is an effort to distract from the economy. Obama still enjoys the benefit of the doubt on the economy even if patience is starting to run out.

  11. 2009 July 12 5:14 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Besides, after the outcome of the dueling press conference does anyone here really think that Obama wants Cheney to come out again and explain the policy? I don’t think so. Cheney is a man who has analyzed the facts, the law, thought about every policy he has adopted. He is not into sloganeering or pulling stuff out of his butt. I am sure that we will be treated to another Liz and Dick taking on the MSM show. I can’t wait. I watch them and feel great about voting Republican and being a conservative.

  12. 2009 July 12 5:17 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Matalin and Carville — what a team! I just don’t see how they stay married! Matalin always seems composed and reasonable, whereas her “husband” is insinuating dire miscarriages of justice when it come to the Republicans.

    It’s actually funny, because it is the dims who chronically seem on the edge of manipulation and “using” crisises to their benefit, not the Republicans. But, look who calls “wolf,” at the slightest jarring of a nerve ending?

    I think Matalin has it right, as do other commentaries today — this whole story is nothing but a “red herring” to take people off the scent of Obama’s current failings and future errors of judgment in creating stupid policy, aka as Obamacare and Cap & Trade bills.

  13. 2009 July 12 5:19 pm
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    janzam permalink

    I think you are also right, Chek, that this story is covering many bases and rear ends, including Pelosi’s.

  14. 2009 July 12 5:19 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    Pelosi is NOT in on this. All Pelosi has to do is shut up about the CIA and it would be history. It is in the past and the further you move from it, the less significant it becomes.

    The whole economy is tanking and they know it. They need a diversion given that the economy sucks, Sotomayor is up on deck, Health Care is coming – thus we need a diversion.

    Add in that “zero” has negatives numbers, we need someone else to come onto the stage to take focus off of the “one”. Buys time for “zero” to get his game back – if he can.

  15. 2009 July 12 5:20 pm
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    chekote permalink

    why do you so frequently START with character assassination?

    So now stating my opinion about someone is character assissination?! Give me a break. After the results of the past two election, is there such a thing as a Republican strategist?

  16. 2009 July 12 5:21 pm
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    justrand permalink

    not bad analysis, chekote…but you missed one point that Mary Matalin didn’t:

    Eric Holder is OBAMA’S pit-bull! Not Queen Nancy’s. Nancy may REQUEST the pit-bull be unleashed…but only the Emperor can actually command him to be unleashed!

    I think the requests for that to occur have been constant from Nancy…and, as Mary points out, the timing coincides with BARRY’S need to distract.

  17. 2009 July 12 5:23 pm
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    janzam permalink

    …..and, what a waste of time and energy too. As if this country, the world, has nothing better to do but parse and spar about moot tactics of the past!

  18. 2009 July 12 5:27 pm
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    justrand permalink

    geez, chekote, this IS becoming tiresome…

    Mary Matalin expressed an OPINION. on a thread where folks are discussing that OPINION, it would be appropriate to discuss THAT prior to discussing the parentage, morals, or destination upon death of the individual. Plenty of time for that…eh?

    Since a broken clock is correct twice a day (a comfort you rely on) isn’t it just possible that Mary is correct in this instance?

    btw…Mary is a VERY shrewd political analyst (despite her taste in men), and is “correct” more than twice a day. And she’s spot on in this case. This Eric Holder bullshit is exactly that!

  19. 2009 July 12 5:29 pm
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    justrand permalink

    p.s. to chekote, you have by now seen my refusal of your entreaty on the other thread. Just not your day! 👿

  20. 2009 July 12 5:29 pm
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    janzam permalink

    gnqanq

    Agree with your above points, but I also think Pelosi’s credibility is being ameliorated by this diversion. Although Holder is probably not coming out to save Nancy alone, she is going to get some cover from this if they are able to blow this thing up with the MSM’s consistent help.

    Did you notice that Chaney made front page on the NYT?

  21. 2009 July 12 5:29 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Off-topic

    NJ Becomes Capitol of TV Informercial Industry

    http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2009/07/nj_has_grown_as_the_capital_of.html

    Brandon, if you’re lurking, you can be the next Billy Mayes.

  22. 2009 July 12 5:31 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Holder is only interested in protecting Zero. When it gets down to it, Nancy Pelosi is just a “typical white woman.”

  23. 2009 July 12 5:33 pm
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    justrand permalink

    bc3b…OUCH!!

  24. 2009 July 12 5:34 pm
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    janzam permalink

    I usually enjoy hearing Matalin’s POV. She is in the political mix and is succinct in getting to the root of the twists and turns of political events.

    With her husband in tow, it has the ingredients of a dog and pony show. But, I really think they respect each other and usually quietly let the other have their say — which is usually the opposite of each other.

  25. 2009 July 12 5:35 pm
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    chekote permalink

    All Pelosi has to do is shut up about the CIA and it would be history.

    Pelosi did take well to Panetta contradicting her statement that the CIA lies to Congress. Remember, a woman scorned. Plus, Obama seems to defer to Pelosi a lot. Remember, Pelosi’s refusal to support opened the way for Obama.

  26. 2009 July 12 5:36 pm
    [26]
    chekote permalink

    JR

    I will just be more careful in the future. I mean, why should I contribute to the “success” of threads by somone who told me to f— off.

  27. 2009 July 12 5:37 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Obama defers to Pelosi because she pounds people into going her way. He needs her to do his dirty work.

  28. 2009 July 12 5:38 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Jan,

    I agree with you. How in the hell can Matalin be married to someone as partisan as Carville? I mean, I can understand if the guy was gorgeous but he looks like Gollum.

  29. 2009 July 12 5:39 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Pelosi made Obama possible since she did not embrace Hillary early in the primaries. Besides, Obama and Pelosi are much more simpaticos as far as governing philosophy. Pelosi and Obama are covering each others back.

  30. 2009 July 12 5:40 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    Jan – Pelosi’s credibility does not matter. She can be replaced if necessary. Hoyer can carry the water if need be. Pelosi may not like it but nobody is irreplacable but “zero”. Thus the need to protect “zero” and bring diversion.

    Look at the latest from the administration, that it will take time for the economy to recover. They need time, thus a diversion.

    Is this the first – no. Will it be the last – no. As the economy continues to tank (Clemente) look for the administration to take more drastic actions.

    Look at the bill Alcee Hastings introduced to give Holder (AG) the power to go after people who he claims are extremists. Remember when Janet Napitano (Homeland Security) claimned all of those groups (veterans, NRA, etc) to be potential extremists. They are setting the table for later action.

  31. 2009 July 12 5:44 pm
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    janzam permalink

    They are setting the table for later action. —>gnqanq

    Good collection of dim political actions as they interact with the power they hold. It is so subtle, but I see your point.

  32. 2009 July 12 5:45 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    gnqanq –

    “Jan – Pelosi’s credibility does not matter. She can be replaced if necessary. Hoyer can carry the water if need be. Pelosi may not like it but nobody is irreplacable but “zero”. Thus the need to protect “zero” and bring diversion.”

    = Typical White Woman

  33. 2009 July 12 5:45 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Hoyer is much more conservative than Pelosi. The last thing Obama wants is Hoyer in charge.

  34. 2009 July 12 5:46 pm
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    janzam permalink

    …he looks like Gollum. Chek

    LOL To me he looks like a living skeleton — bald head and bony face!

  35. 2009 July 12 5:49 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Typical White Woman bc3b

    You like saying that, don’t you, bc3b? LOL

  36. 2009 July 12 5:51 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    bc3b – you are correct sir.

  37. 2009 July 12 5:54 pm
    [37]
    bc3b permalink

    chekote –

    “Hoyer is much more conservative than Pelosi. The last thing Obama wants is Hoyer in charge.”

    Hoyer will do what he’s told or quickly learn what it’s like to be a “Typical White Man.” You’re forgetting that we’re playing by Chicago Street Fight Rules now.

  38. 2009 July 12 5:55 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    bc3b – exactly. Everyone is expendable but “zero”.

  39. 2009 July 12 6:00 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    janzam –

    “Typical White Woman bc3b

    “You like saying that, don’t you, bc3b? LOL”

    Janzam –

    Racial politics have been an important component of Obama’s strategy since he decided to seek the Presidency. That’s what the FReeper thing is all sbout. To oppose The One is to be a racist. You’re not gonna like the re-education kamp in Detroit this January. It doesn’t matter to me. I’m gonna be here any way.

  40. 2009 July 12 6:03 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    It’ll be just like Vince Foster. Michelle Obama “accidentally” falls butt-first on Hoyer’s skull, crushing it and immediately killing him.

    The White House will even bring in WWE’s Vince McMahon to help plan it.

  41. 2009 July 12 6:07 pm
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    justrand permalink

    we’re ALL playing by “Chicago Rules” now…and we need to remember that.

    The Left accused “W” of grabbing all kinds of power…but the truth is that he really never even tried.

    Obama is determined to grab all that power, and MORE! And the Left’s just fine with that…’cause he’s THEIR guy!

    Those of us who don’t want ANYBODY to have that power are getting, uh, restive.

    Obama WILL overreach! Heck, what’s the fun of being Emporer of the Universe if you can’t exercise it…eh? Eric Holder may well be the instrument of that over-reaching! THAT’S when the “fun” starts!

  42. 2009 July 12 6:11 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    Justrand – and if there is outrage by the public over Eric Holder’s actions, he too can go under the bus if the out cry is loud enough.

    “zero” has thrown more people under the bus than anyone can remember. Nothing is “zero’s” fault. Always someone else’s fault. And if great enough offense, under the bus they go. All that matters is the agenda and all losses are acceptable as long as the agenda is moving forward.

  43. 2009 July 12 6:11 pm
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    chekote permalink

    I think it is a mistake to make this into a racial issue. This story got started with Panetta informing Congress that the CIA kept information from Congress. I say Pelosi’s fingerprints are all over this. And I still think Matalin is an idiot. 🙂

  44. 2009 July 12 6:14 pm
    [44]
    BCL permalink

    OT/ Sorry, but this is pretty cool. I missed it though.


    Another Open Carry dinner in AZ

  45. 2009 July 12 6:17 pm
    [45]
    justrand permalink

    chekote: “This story got started with Panetta informing Congress that the CIA kept information from Congress.”

    correct except for the word: allegedly

    the 8 (?) cowardly Dems who CLAIMED he did…and Panetta refused to cofirm or deny.

    the Dems look VERY stoooopid and weak when they do crap like this! 🙂

  46. 2009 July 12 6:18 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    gnqanq –

    While I agree Holder could end up under the bus, I believe it’s less likely for two reasons: 1) racial and 2) he’s a member of the inner-circle.

  47. 2009 July 12 6:20 pm
    [47]
    bc3b permalink

    I just checked out Poli. Is it dead. Two posts today and only three comments. acroso and the trolls must be marching in a gay pride parade today.

  48. 2009 July 12 6:21 pm
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    mulletover permalink

    Michelle Obama “accidentally” falls butt-first on Hoyer’s skull.
    ~bc3b

    Now that’s a wedgie to beat all wedgies. Steny may never be found.

  49. 2009 July 12 6:22 pm
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    justrand permalink

    BCL, I LOVED the gal who said she would not drink while carrying! Watch her hand-motions when she says “I want to be crisp and clear…”.

    Yup…she wants to HIT what she AIMING AT!! you go girl!! 🙂

  50. 2009 July 12 6:22 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    The libs are ruling the roost over there, no complaints from Poli or Oak Leaf. I notice the lib posters are gushing and effusive in their praise of Oak.

    heh.

  51. 2009 July 12 6:23 pm
    [51]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Hard to believe I ever posted there.

  52. 2009 July 12 6:23 pm
    [52]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Poor Polipundit.

  53. 2009 July 12 6:25 pm
    [53]
    bc3b permalink

    Off-topic –

    I was watching a FNC special on Sotomayor. it was pretty good until they rolled out an “All-Star Panel” that had the usual suspects including Krathammer and Kirsten Powers.

    At FNC insanity is asking the same idiot panelists the same idiotic questions and expecting intelligent answers.

  54. 2009 July 12 6:26 pm
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    BCL permalink

    BCL, I LOVED the gal who said she would not drink while carrying! Watch her hand-motions when she says “I want to be crisp and clear…”.

    The opponents don’t appreciate that.

    How about the one who said she wouldnt go to any place that allowed that. I guess she would rather be somewhere where only the bad guys carry concealed.

    Still, Brewer hasn’t signed those bills. Wonder what her problem is. The clock is running out.

    Well, off to dinner.

  55. 2009 July 12 6:27 pm
    [55]
    conservativetony permalink

    Wow, didn’t Poli get over 2000 comments at one time last year? IIRC, they broke 1000 comments many times.

    Let that site be a lesson to the GOP; move away from Conservatism and you may as well shut it all down.

  56. 2009 July 12 6:28 pm
    [56]
    bc3b permalink

    At Poli I think they are just happy to be getting hits from anyone – acroso (under his various screen names), the trolls, aliens from outer space, anyone).

  57. 2009 July 12 6:28 pm
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    mulletover permalink

    Between Pelosi’s lying and a dem political operative (Panetta) running the CIA, the country’s inteilligence operations are in a shambles. What is happening is as bad or worse than the Church hearings, and it will do the same type damage. As experienced operatives take a hike, it will take decades to repair the damage .

    The country be damned. The dems must retain power at all costs.

  58. 2009 July 12 6:37 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    conservativetony –

    “Wow, didn’t Poli get over 2000 comments at one time last year? IIRC, they broke 1000 comments many times.

    “Let that site be a lesson to the GOP; move away from Conservatism and you may as well shut it all down.”

    Poli was very strong during the RNC convention and relatively strong through the election. Then things fell apart.

    Defections to BJG are a small part of their problem. We didn’t pick up nearly as many posters as Poli lost. Former posters went to a number of sites.

  59. 2009 July 12 6:40 pm
    [59]
    janzam permalink

    I miss mpthompson and Judy who posted a lot at PP. FrankO was another good poster.

  60. 2009 July 12 6:41 pm
    [60]
    janzam permalink

    ….and jeanne

  61. 2009 July 12 6:41 pm
    [61]
    conservativetony permalink

    Poli was my first excursion into Conservative blogs. Watching that site die a slow death is hard.

  62. 2009 July 12 6:46 pm
    [62]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Jeannie went to hotair, Don’t know what happened to Judy, I thought she would be happy here….

    Beej has vanished too. I hope I didn’t drive them off. If it wasn’t me it probably was Chekote.

    INC stays in touch with Judy fairly well I understand.

  63. 2009 July 12 6:47 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    jan – was thinking about jeanie the other day. Wondering how her and her family now feel about ‘hope & change’. Said her and her family could not afford what the Republicans were doing – hope that change is working for her.

  64. 2009 July 12 6:48 pm
    [64]
    bc3b permalink

    FReepers are expecting a major storm tomorrow. Don’t you just love it whan a Daily Kos writer, a Democratic Party operative and the anchor of a major cable channel get together are plot against conservatives?

    http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/07/msnbcs-david-shuster-to-smear.html

    And, no Chekote, this is NOT about Sarah Palin. It’s about the left trying to publicly smear and discredit one of the leading and most powerful conservative blogs (even if they were dumb enough to ban me).

  65. 2009 July 12 6:48 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Wow, didn’t Poli get over 2000 comments at one time last year?

    They were huge, I came on after the blowup with DJ Drummond and the Amnesty Brigade. It really split the GOP.

    I supported Poli in that dispute. I still don’t think the GOP rank and file realize what will happen to our party if amnesty passes.

    They just dont get it. We will be lucky to have 20 senators if amnesty passes.

  66. 2009 July 12 6:49 pm
    [66]
    bc3b permalink

    I liked Darth Varder.

  67. 2009 July 12 6:49 pm
    [67]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Yes, Jeannie said she wanted her benefits (SS and medicare I believe), and if the R party wouldnt provide them, she’d vote Obama.

    She didn’t give a damn about the future generations. Non one tenth of a damn.

  68. 2009 July 12 6:50 pm
    [68]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    You mean Darth Malice

  69. 2009 July 12 6:51 pm
    [69]
    gnqanq permalink

    bc3b – was on Free Republic last night reading. From what they posted, the moderator was removing posts (racial) as soon as they could. From what many had said, they thought the moderator was doing a good job.

  70. 2009 July 12 6:52 pm
    [70]
    gnqanq permalink

    Right Wing – I thought Darth was a Troll. Too mushy to be a conservative.

  71. 2009 July 12 6:53 pm
    [71]
    bc3b permalink

    Yes, Darth Malice.

  72. 2009 July 12 7:07 pm
    [72]
    bc3b permalink

    FR always has an administrator on site reviewing comments. FR pulls questionable comments and bans members faster than any other political blog I am aware of. Jim Robinson is so heavy-handed that I have sometimes referred to his actions as “fascist.”

    I am sure the left monitors FR very closely and I guess a few things “got through the cracks.” While I don’t want to sound like I have delusions of granduer, I think it’s important that we become more careful as we continue to grow.

  73. 2009 July 12 7:08 pm
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    chekote permalink

    I doubt Judy left because of me. As a matter of fact, both disappeared during one of my “breaks”. Besides, RWY posted several times that he hoped his posts on Tiller didn’t drive them away. Look in the mirror man.

  74. 2009 July 12 7:09 pm
    [74]
    chekote permalink

    Darth was a soldier in Iraq wasn’t he? Or I am confusing him with someone else?

  75. 2009 July 12 7:12 pm
    [75]
    bc3b permalink

    You are right Checky. He is a reservist (or national guard member) who lives in Georgia, but nowhere near Atlanta.

  76. 2009 July 12 7:23 pm
    [76]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Darth was an odd duck. He understood nothing of the constitution. He often said Obama could do anything and the army would back him, even to the point of suppressing the people with violence, and that the fact he was elected entitled him to set aside the constitution.

  77. 2009 July 12 7:26 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    And his posts were always “we’re screwed.” There was not an ounce of fight in that man, and he was supposed to be a soldier.

    One thing he was right about, was how bought and paid for the officer corp of this country’s armed forces was. How they would kiss the ass of Obama to keep their jobs.

    Watching Oak Leaf, it appears Darth was correct.

    Of course, officers can give orders, but only the enlisted men can carry them out.

  78. 2009 July 12 7:28 pm
    [78]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    I’ll email beej and Judy and ask them if I chased them away. I know they could not stand Chekote, either one of them.

  79. 2009 July 12 7:34 pm
    [79]
    chekote permalink

    Why do you care RWY? Are you going to stop posting if they say you were the reason they left? I think Judy just go busy with her job. Beej lost her interest in posting a long time ago.

  80. 2009 July 12 7:35 pm
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    chekote permalink

    RWY is so brave. Do you ever wear a uniform? I forgot. You are Candadian.

  81. 2009 July 12 7:40 pm
    [81]
    gnqanq permalink

    Right Wing – above a certain officer grade it gets down to politics. My brother felt in the navy it was down to admiral. Captains of vessels he felt were not influenced by politics.

    My father in law said in the army it was similiar. The politics were in the higher grades.

    All you are seeing is those dick lickers from the left. The right dick lickers are staying quiet and off the radar screen.

  82. 2009 July 12 7:41 pm
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    janzam permalink

    I think Jeanie lost a lot of assets during the Fall meltdown. She became very disillusioned with the Republican Party, and was really afraid that if the stimulus, under George Bush, wasn’t pasted the US would collapse economically.

    She was a very nice woman who was driven by fear.

  83. 2009 July 12 7:43 pm
    [83]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Gn, not so sure about that last line of your post. I followed it until then. Please help me with that one.

  84. 2009 July 12 7:46 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    I think Jeanie lost a lot of assets during the Fall meltdown. She became very disillusioned with the Republican Party, and was really afraid that if the stimulus, under George Bush, wasn’t pasted the US would collapse economically.

    Many retirees are on shoestring budgets. Hey, I am on a shoestring budget and I make a pretty fair salary.

    Got to save up to pay all my new taxes!

    We have to stop selling out to the government for money. States have to stop it, and the people do too. It will be the trap that snares us.

    Look at our founders. The men who fought in the Colonial Army. Many of them had nothing. Many might have prospered had they submitted to the English, but they did not.

  85. 2009 July 12 7:47 pm
    [85]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    did not submit, I mean…

  86. 2009 July 12 7:56 pm
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    justrand permalink

    ah taxes…the government’s greatest coup was when they invented “Withholding”!

    Until then you had to send in a check!! “Withholding” came along as a “convenience”, to help people plan and save better! 🙂

    Of course now Withholding is MANDATORY! Very difficult to have a Taxpaer Revolt when most of the taxes come in automatically, eh?

    If a whole lot of folks in America changed their Withholding to be a fraction of what they “owe” and then paid in full on April 15 the Government would go BROKE in one single year!!!

    jus’ sayin’

  87. 2009 July 12 7:57 pm
    [87]
    justrand permalink

    or maybe if everyone paid Uncle Sam in California IOUs???? hmmm… 👿

  88. 2009 July 12 7:58 pm
    [88]
    gnqanq permalink

    Right Wing – those military men/women in higher positions are more so political than other officers. Those on the right are doing their job and staying off the radar screen. They don’t complain, just do their job.

    The military men/women that lean left are those that you see kissing “zero’s” ass. They are the ones being promoted to positions that are observable to the public.

    There are alot of operational positions that are not political.

    Eisenhowe was a colonel prior to WW II, yet was a good friend to Marshall and thus got promoted. Was he the best – NO. Prime example of politics.

    You saw the same thing with Colin Powell – dick licker from the right.

    You saw the same with Admiral Crowe who supported Clinton – dick licker from the left.

  89. 2009 July 12 8:03 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Justrand

    I just don’t see how California is going to dig itself out of this one. Although, last night on the news they had “teasers” saying that the legislature was “close.”

    In the meantime California is being held up as the template, across the country, of what not to do.

  90. 2009 July 12 8:25 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    While the Peoples’ Republik of Kalifornia is the prime example, most states are in financial trouble. But states (and especially the federal government) do not act like private businesses.

    – Employees keep getting raises and bonuses even though the government entity is operating at a loss.
    – College tuition has increased at three times the rate of inflation for how many years now?
    – While the percentage of union positions had sharply declined in the private sector, it has increased dramatically among government employees
    – According to a study Lou Dobbs referred to recently, the cost of the average federal employee (salary, benefits, pension costs, etc.) is over double that of private sector employees

  91. 2009 July 12 8:52 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Jan

    You are right about jeanie. She got really scared about the financial meltdown and supported the bailout. Bush and Paulson getting on TV really hurt this country and handed Obama the election.

  92. 2009 July 12 9:17 pm
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    justrand permalink

    Kalifornia once again leads the way!!

    And you, ALL OF YOU, thought that IOUs were just for losers in poker games!! We’ll show you all. You want to do business with us you must accept our IOUs…and cheerfully!! We’re Kali-eff’ing-fornia for crying out loud!! You want any of our “Kalifornia Gurls” you must accept our scrip!!

    more to follow, when the electricity comes back on!

  93. 2009 July 13 7:24 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Look at our founders. The men who fought in the Colonial Army. Many of them had nothing. Many might have prospered had they submitted to the English, but they did not. — RWY

    More telling are those that had much to lose but were willing to risk it all to gain their own destiny. Sadly many Founder rich when it started ended up poor. Their assets seized, homes burned and families lost.

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