Who’s the Favorite for 2012?

2009 July 3
by bc3b

With Sanford’s personal problems and Palin stepping down, what do you think?

64 Responses leave one →
  1. 2009 July 3 1:07 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Palin stepping down? wtf? Although she has done a great job as gov, it’s less distiguished than otherwise to quit early, let alone fail to be re-elected….

    Very odd.

  2. 2009 July 3 1:12 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    The more I see of Romney, the more he comes across as a phoney. Pawlenty is a yawner. Huckabee??? Jindal???

    Sanford was my second choice.

    The was an interesting statement Palin made (quoting MacArthur), “We’re not retreating. We’re just advancing in a different direction.”

  3. 2009 July 3 1:13 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    RWY,

    It very well could be she just reached a point of saying — “screw this!” Who could blame her?

    There is a negative outcome though. The libs are now left with the impression if you screw with someone long enough, hard enough they will give in. So no more compromise its out and out war. You are either with them or again’em.

  4. 2009 July 3 1:14 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    exactly, Dr…

  5. 2009 July 3 1:14 pm
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    Brandon permalink

    Romney is the favorite, though certainly not the best.

  6. 2009 July 3 1:15 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    If you want to see the left’s reaction to Sarah’s decision to leave, wait for Chekote on this…

  7. 2009 July 3 1:16 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Oh, the post? At this point there is nobody I like, period.

  8. 2009 July 3 1:18 pm
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    janzam permalink

    I’m out all morning and what happens?…….Palin resigns! I didn’t see this coming in the tea leaves.

  9. 2009 July 3 1:18 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    “Oh, the post? At this point there is nobody I like, period.”

    I know your feeling drdog09.

  10. 2009 July 3 1:18 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Sarah is unconventional and brave, and she is also for more committed to her husband and children than most pols, who merely talk as if they were.

    It may be her family cannot take any more, her younger children need her.

    But it’s that old priciple of battle: Once engaged, there is no walking away, there is only victory or defeat.

  11. 2009 July 3 1:20 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Janzam, the worm in the bottle of Tequila probably knew…

  12. 2009 July 3 1:20 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    I like Barbour, I like Thune, I like Jindal, I like Petraeus, although he could be a powell type, I don’t know….

  13. 2009 July 3 1:21 pm
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    aureliusx permalink

    Sarah!!!

    No longer the Alaskan.

    Just a regular old American.

    Palin 2012

  14. 2009 July 3 1:22 pm
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    mulletover permalink

    The incessant attacks, personal and lawsuits, may be taking its toll. Perhaps she felt her ability to lead the state was impaired, and she is stepping down because it is the best thing for Alaska.

    Regardless, she will be criticized for not completing her term. Drdog is correct.

  15. 2009 July 3 1:22 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    I know who I DON’T want to run:

    Pawlenty
    Romney
    Crist
    Rudy
    Huck
    Jeb

    why would Jeb run? After what his brother did, how could he possibly think he could do it?

    Believe it or not, Jeb would be better than Crist, in fact.

  16. 2009 July 3 1:24 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    She said this was underconsideration for some time. I think her visit to the Alaskan national guard troops was her final tour.

    Consider what Palin nhas been through in the past year – constant barrage from the media, including FNC, attacks by RINOs, the frivilous ethics suite orchestrated by the DNC, nuts like Chekote who were obsessed with her.

    Palin loves her country and I guess she believes she can do more to help shift its course by not being a candidate.

  17. 2009 July 3 1:24 pm
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    aureliusx permalink

    yahoo, what’s your beef with Pawlenty?

  18. 2009 July 3 1:25 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Yahoo –

    When I look at that list I want to puke.

  19. 2009 July 3 1:27 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    aureliusx –

    Ever see Pawlenty speak? He has as much charisma as a wet dish rag.

  20. 2009 July 3 1:30 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    “Believe it or not, Jeb would be better than Crist, in fact.”

    I don’t care if he’s the best of the three. No more Bushes ever!

  21. 2009 July 3 1:30 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    yahoo, what’s your beef with Pawlenty?

    Spineless, another McCain/Rudy type. IMO.

  22. 2009 July 3 1:31 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    What this country needs and in some way wants is a Harry Truman type to kick ass an take names for a while.

    I therefore throw into nomination for 2012, Lt. Gen. Russel “You’re Stuck on Stupid” Honore. Brash, NoNonSense, “Damn the Politics, Full Speed Ahead!” type of guy. Campaign slogan —

    “Czars? I don’t need no stinking Czars! When I am in charge I am the only Czar you need.”

  23. 2009 July 3 1:31 pm
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    aureliusx permalink

    C’mon, he’s a Midwest nice guy..

    He’s not a cool black guy, that’s for sure. Or a wise Latina.

    Has our country fallen so far that the serious midwestern conservative is automatically off the table?

    Don’t answer that….

  24. 2009 July 3 1:32 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    I don’t care if he’s the best of the three. No more Bushes ever!

    Amen to that. If the R party nominates another Bush or another McCain/Rudy liberal R, then they deserve Obama’s second term.

  25. 2009 July 3 1:33 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    At this point, if we make the assumption that Palin is in fact renouncing politics, I think the best 2012 option is for Jindal to mature rapidly and go for it.

    Thune is an interesting name as well.

    That said, there’s at least an even chance that it will be someone we have scarcely heard of right now and that cannot be predicted due to the chaos and turmoil to come. Unfortunately, there’s an equally great chance that Romney the Establishment Robot will vacuum up all the campaign cash and be firmly ensconced as the nominee.

  26. 2009 July 3 1:33 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    He has as much charisma as a wet dish rag. — BC

    Better duck! There’s a suit from the WDRADL (wet dish rag anti defamation league) headed you’re way!

  27. 2009 July 3 1:34 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Has our country fallen so far that the serious midwestern conservative is automatically off the table?

    He’s a Romney, all over the place, amnesty, global warming, he’s not a leader or very conservative, from what I know of him?

    Has he ever staked out a leading position that was unabashedly conservative and stuck to it, like Palin has on security and energy for example?

    I don’t know what it was if he did…

  28. 2009 July 3 1:34 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Whomever the left sees as a threat they will constantly work to marginalize. And they have tremendous weapons, all of which they used against Sarah Palin:
    – Newscasts
    – Entertainment shows (SNL, Letterman)
    – Yahoo and MSN news
    – Newspapers
    – Magazines
    – The Internet
    – the list goes on

    We need to escalate the war with the media and get it into the open.

  29. 2009 July 3 1:35 pm
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    janzam permalink

    a) Pawlenty is possible

    b) Jindal probably needs more grooming

    3) Thune is someone I like

    4) Romney is seasoned and has an economic background this country will need.

    5) But, the real answer is “It’s too early to tell…as I think PG might have said…there are too many events out there that could change the political landscape in an instant. In fact the frontrunner could be someone who is a background figure at the moment.

  30. 2009 July 3 1:35 pm
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    aureliusx permalink

    Palin/Pawlenty 2012. Solid conservatives. Flash and substance. Fire and ice.

    If that ticket loses to Obama, cue the feeding frenzy. It’ll be every man for himself in this country. Because there will be no principles to work or fight for.

  31. 2009 July 3 1:35 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    ‘What this country needs and in some way wants is a Harry Truman type’

    I agree, but tapping some military dude with zero political experience doesn’t seem like the best idea.

  32. 2009 July 3 1:36 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Romney the Establishment Robot will vacuum up all the campaign cash and be firmly ensconced as the nominee.

    Maybe, but if it did not work in 2008, it’s less likely to work in 2012. Romney could not light anyone’s fire if they were soaked in Jet fuel.

    but, otoh, his business acumen might shine if the country as fallen off a cliff, which it very well might have by then.

  33. 2009 July 3 1:37 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    BC,

    The war that needs to happen is not with the MSM. That is just a skirmish. The real war that needs to occur is in the left leaning NGO’s. Places like Pew, Sierra, Anneberg, etc. Need to expose and cut off the funding source to these groups. The collapse will follow.

  34. 2009 July 3 1:37 pm
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    aureliusx permalink

    Taxes, yahoo, taxes. Pawlenty’s been famously holding the line in Minnesota, vetoing every tax increase coming his way.

    Did he come out in favor of amnesty or cap/trade? I missed it if so.

  35. 2009 July 3 1:38 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    In fact, truth be told, Liz Cheney is about the best out there if you want a Truman type.

  36. 2009 July 3 1:39 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    The best thing I can say about Romney the presidential candidate is that he would make a very fine Treasury Secretary.

  37. 2009 July 3 1:39 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    PG,

    Who else? The current crop of R Pols don’t have it in’em.

  38. 2009 July 3 1:40 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    Pawlenty is a squish on the global warming hoax.

    No thanks.

  39. 2009 July 3 1:40 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Liz Cheney or Haley Barbour

  40. 2009 July 3 1:43 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Liz I am afraid would have the same fate as Palin. Due to her relationship with ‘Darth Vader’ the left would go nuts. Their undercurrent meme would be “She’s in the Oval Office, but Darth is upstairs pulling the strings.” Would not be able to escape it or answer it.

    But I like her.

  41. 2009 July 3 1:44 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    Well, Dr. Dog, crisis is just another word for opportunity.

    Someone will emerge to fill the political vacuum.

    And if it’s not the GOP, a new political party will.

  42. 2009 July 3 1:46 pm
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    janzam permalink

    I think Palin may have resigned early so as to give her Lt Gov, someone she likes, an opportunity to settle in as an incumbent, giving him better odds at winning the Alaskan governorship in 2010.

    But, I agree, in committing to such a political courtesy, she lowers her own chances of a 2012 Presidential run. Not finishing a term weakens her image, and gives more fodder to the MSM to dump on her.

    I think she is bowing out of politics.

  43. 2009 July 3 1:46 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    ‘Liz I am afraid would have the same fate as Palin’

    Not a chance. She’s tough as nails, like the old man. She might not win, but she’d give as good as she got and then some. There would definitely be many ruffled feathers and bloodied beaks in the state-run media henhouse.

    Hell, the campaign would be fabulous as pure entertainment value, whether she could defeat the marxist or not.

  44. 2009 July 3 1:47 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Thune/Liz Chaney

  45. 2009 July 3 1:49 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    More like Cheney/ Thune…

  46. 2009 July 3 1:50 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Yeah, Thune is a lanky, quiet, modest, tenacious conservative who has good speaking skills when called upon, and has no obnoxious stuff in his background (that I know of).

    Combine him with a feisty woman VP like Chaney, it would make for a whole new combination for a 2012 ticket!

  47. 2009 July 3 1:50 pm
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    reggie1971 permalink

    Agree with RWY….very odd.

    I suppose she has her reasons, but to simply quit as governor in the middle of your term is not something that is going to be looked at positively by the public. It makes you appear flakey. As much as I love Sarah Palin, and as much as I detest her scumbag haters, I think this does not bode well at all for any future political ambition she may have.

  48. 2009 July 3 1:51 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Chaney is too “new” and still ha

  49. 2009 July 3 1:51 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    Don’t forget that McCain is tanned, rested, and ready…….

  50. 2009 July 3 1:52 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Here is a sample of the “pukes” we have masquaderading as conservative Republicans. Ted Olson taking gay marriage to the Supreme Court.

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/gay_marriage_olson/2009/07/03/231713.html

  51. 2009 July 3 1:53 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Chaney still has her father’s stigma to work out before she becomes Presidential material. As VP people could get to know and trust her for herself.

    So, it is Thune/Chaney

  52. 2009 July 3 1:55 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    phineas gage –

    “‘Liz I am afraid would have the same fate as Palin’

    “Not a chance. She’s tough as nails, like the old man. She might not win, but she’d give as good as she got and then some. There would definitely be many ruffled feathers and bloodied beaks in the state-run media henhouse.

    “, the campaign would be fabulous as pure entertainment value, whether she could defeat the marxist or not.”

    I would love to see her do it, but the left has perfected trashing people like Liz 24/7

  53. 2009 July 3 1:57 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    David Letterman, call your staff writers!

  54. 2009 July 3 1:58 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Don’t forget that McCain is tanned, rested, and readymorbid…….

    fixed it for ya!

  55. 2009 July 3 1:59 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    If you are afraid to run because the left will trash you, you don’t belong in politics.

    Why should any righty be afraid the left will trash them?

    The left should be afraid of us, not the other way around. We need a pit bull, and Sarah said she was it, and tried to fight, but McCain was too busy retreating.

    I don’t see her move today as a fighting move, I hate to say.

  56. 2009 July 3 2:00 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    Maybe so, bc, but whoever the candidate is I know one thing–they better be a fearless badass bulldog if they’re going to take down the Chicago thug and the state-run media.

    The milquetoast GOP either gets a makeover or gets replaced.

  57. 2009 July 3 2:01 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    All half measures. If you want to go that route why not just go for broke and do a Cheney/Palin ticket? You get two mental strokes from the left for the price of one campaign.

  58. 2009 July 3 2:01 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    That’s right, fellows. The lack of an R politician to take down the dems mean that the people have to do it, and that could mean many bad things.

    The R party continues to be worthless….. alas.

  59. 2009 July 3 2:02 pm
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    phineas gage permalink

    Great, Dr. Dog! Heads exploding like rotten pumpkins across the leftist spectrum!

  60. 2009 July 3 2:09 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Looking at Yahoo’s list of candidates makes me wonder if it doesn’t make sense to ditch the GOP and start a unified third party.

  61. 2009 July 3 2:21 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    We’re going back to permanent minority status, because no one is fighting….

  62. 2009 July 3 2:23 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    People like Jeb Bush would rather choke the life out of the GOP, and run conservatives out of it, than run like Reagan and win.

    Winning is an afterthought for today’s GOP.

  63. 2009 July 3 3:22 pm
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    “it doesn’t make sense to ditch the GOP and start a unified third party.”

    Think it’s pretty clear that’s what is needed, problem is that infrastructure project is 10-12 years of work, meanwhile the nation wastes away at a faster pace.

  64. 2009 July 3 10:32 pm
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    davidt permalink

    It will be Palin winning the Presidency in 2012 either as a Republican or as the leader of a new party.

    Resigning the Governorship of Alaska frees her in many ways to work nationaly.

    She gets away from all the frivolous ethics charges which take up her time, pile up debt, and give the false impression of being unethical. She gives the Lt Gov a year and a half to be Gov and run as an incumbant in 2010. She can devote herself to her national aspirations fulltime without trying to fulfill the Gov’s responsibilities at the same time. She doesn’t have ethics laws restricting Governors from doing certain fundraising activities. Logistically, Alaska and national campaigning don’t mix well. She can do a lot of fundraising for Conservative candidates in 2010 to build alliances for 2012. She can travel internationally more freely to gain those bonafides.

    This move has been in the works for a while.

    Watch for her to become the leader of the Tea Party movement. If the Establishment Republicans try to shut her down, she is in a position to run independently of them.

    Those who think Palin is slinking away with her tail tucked between her legs are in for a big surprise.

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