Why Do People Hate Sarah Palin So Intensely?

2009 July 4
by MFG

My answer:

Jealousy

Discuss…

232 Responses leave one →
  1. 2009 July 4 9:19 am
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    She is happy, they are not.

    She shows the world that a Christian life of service, honesty, values, hard work and independence equals success. Her lifestyle brings peace, happiness, and success.

    the elites and their hangers on hate that.

  2. 2009 July 4 9:20 am
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Guns, babies, Jesus = one big happy successful family

    They hate that, too.

  3. 2009 July 4 9:21 am
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    MFG permalink

    Agreed

  4. 2009 July 4 9:22 am
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    And the feminists hate her because she:

    1) Stays with one man,

    2) Lets her babies live instead of crushing their skulls, burning their skins, dismembering them with forceps, or stopping their hearts with poison..

  5. 2009 July 4 9:29 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    RWY,

    I think you are pretty close to the mark. One of the precepts of leftist dogma is that the individual cannot make it on their own and always needs ‘help’. To then have someone who stands there by sheer example that it is all a lie, the left must feel compelled to destroy. Otherwise their carefully coiffured concepts are for naught.

  6. 2009 July 4 9:42 am
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    bc3b permalink

    1. She represented (and still does) one of the biggest dangers to Zero
    2. Her pro-life stance
    3. For many women, she’s not, they’re not
    4. For RINOs, they fear she would move the party to the right

    bc3b (aka Brad Plitt look-alike, just more handsome)

  7. 2009 July 4 9:46 am
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    bc3b permalink

    3. she’s hot, they’re not

    This is really a thread Chekote should be participating in. Few people hate Sarah Palin as much as Chekote. Hey, Mr. Chekote, take that Sarah Palin calendar down from the garage (or at least hide it)

  8. 2009 July 4 9:52 am
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    There are some principled complaints one could have with Sarah:

    1) she needs to articulate a small government philosophy and be able to defend it. She has done this on energy and security, needs to do more.

    2) IMHO, she played along with McCain way too much, such as when she endorsed amnesty. She needs to delve into the immigration issue with FAIR and NumbersUSA and get real on the immigration issue.

    3) Realize there is no peace with the left, and never will be. Terminate them with extreme prejudice…

    These are all do-able, and Sarah needs to get her done.

  9. 2009 July 4 9:58 am
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    phineas gage permalink

    I am reposting the Geraghty NRO comment from the other day:

    ‘….and why, eight months after the election, Palin still arouses such fury amongst liberals and so many rank-and-file Democrats.

    After all, even if you think her election to the vice presidency would be the worst disaster ever to befall the Republic, Palin has, by and large, gone away. She’s mostly focused on her work as governor of Alaska. She doesn’t appear on many talk shows or do many interviews. She’s been outside of Alaska . . . four times? Once to the National Governors Association meeting, once to a pro-life dinner, once to the Alfalfa Club dinner, and once to Auburn, N.Y. for an event raising money for a museum honoring William Seward, the 19th-century U.S. secretary of state who acquired Alaska for the United States. There’s no clear sense of her future plans; the near-daily denunciation seems to be just in case she decides to run for national office, a far-from-certain event that would occur, at the earliest, three and a half years from now.

    My first thought was that it tied heavily to her appearance. In liberals’ minds, conservatives are supposed to look like the couple from the painting American Gothic: Dour and joyless, aged, spartan and frail. Political leaders aren’t supposed to be young, really good-looking women, full of energy, smiles, and winks.

    Hugh suggested it tied to the contrast between her lifestyle and her critics: “She is the embodiment of the anti-choice, the opposite of every choice that lefty elites have ever made — as to going back home instead of moving to the west coast, having children, having a child with Down’s, staying married to one man the whole time, choosing rural or suburban over urban and living a generally conservative lifestyle, working with her hands . . . That everything she is is the antithesis of everything that liberal urban elites are, so it’s not just enough to say, ‘I disagree with you,’; she has to be repudiated and crushed.”

    And now, I would submit a slight refining of that idea, that the seeming happiness of Palin’s life is a 24-7 irritant because it challenges the way some liberals see the world.

    Liberals believe that their ideas, philosophy, worldview, and policies liberate believers, and that the conservative equivalents limit people. Liberals see themselves as rejecting outdated beliefs and obsolete ideas, overturning established orders, and discarding traditions established by superstitious and ignorant forebears who weren’t as enlightened as we are. Conservatives, in their minds, are runaway cultural superegos, always wagging their fingers about individual responsibility, dismissing excuses, reminding people that they can’t always do what they want because of the consequences to themselves and to others.

    Conservatism, they suspect, will leave you in a marriage that doesn’t satisfy you, burden you with children you don’t want, repress your passions, and trap you in a empty, boring, and unfulfilled life, with no hand of government able to help.

    Today almost everyone faces some sort of challenge in balancing work and family; I don’t know too many people who believe there are sufficient hours in a day. And then along comes this woman who’s made all of these “conservative” choices and now has an amazing career, a supportive husband, a beautiful family, and great health and appearance, and she bears it all, including the inevitable hard times, with pluck and a smile, as far as we can tell. (For all we know, perhaps behind closed doors, Sarah Palin screams into a pillow when it all gets to be too much. But what we know about her suggests she relieves her stress by shooting moose.)

    A short while back, Los Angeles Times columnist Meghan Daum suggested, only half-jokingly, that actress Angelina Jolie’s “entire Oscar-winning, serial-adopting, Brad Pitt-snagging, plane-piloting, unattainably hot-looking existence makes women around the world feel hopelessly inadequate and therefore unhappy.” Perhaps Sarah Palin is the Angelina Jolie of the political world.

    In her opponents’ minds, Palin’s made all the wrong choices, and cannot, they insist, be very bright. Yet she’s happy and successful. She is an anomaly that invalidates their worldview, and for that, they attempt to immiserate her — regardless of whether she wishes to run for national office again.’

    I think this analysis is spot on.

  10. 2009 July 4 10:04 am
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    INC permalink

    I agree, phin. She repudiates and invalidates everything they are and everything they think and believe about life.

    I’ll quote you now! because I really like what you said with this,

    This nation has never been a nation of the elites, like the European nations. It is a rougher, cruder, louder country, with a great big heart, compassion, honesty, and enthusiasm for life. And this is what Palin reflects. And like many previous American politicians, she succeeds by tapping into this basic characteristic of America.

    The elites recognize that Palin connects in a way they are totally incapable of doing because she is someone they are totally incapable of being.

    They hate that and they hate her.

  11. 2009 July 4 10:05 am
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    INC permalink

    And at Hot Air, one of the bloggers in the Green Room nailed it this way,

    There is something about a Down syndrome child in plain view which has exposed the moral and emotional bankruptcy of the left-wing of the Democratic party. And they hate Sarah Palin because deep down, they hate themselves for being who they are.

  12. 2009 July 4 10:07 am
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    INC permalink

    Although I’d change that to say the moral and emotional bankruptcy of the beltway elites of all political labels has been exposed.

  13. 2009 July 4 10:12 am
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    bc3b permalink

    While the U.S. has not been a country of elites, elites have played a greated role in decision making since FDR.

  14. 2009 July 4 10:14 am
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    bc3b permalink

    INC –

    Welcome back. Hopefully all is well with you.

  15. 2009 July 4 10:24 am
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    INC permalink

    Thanks, bc3b. To be honest, things are really tough right now, but I thought I would say come by and say Happy 4th and Freedom Day!

  16. 2009 July 4 10:30 am
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Hi INC…. happy 4th and let me know if there’s anything I can do for you. Say hello to beej and Judy for me if you hear from them, please…

  17. 2009 July 4 10:30 am
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    mulletover permalink

    Sarah dresses out moose.

    Her critics dress like a moose to go out.

  18. 2009 July 4 10:33 am
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    And I hope I didn’t drive them away with my strong words on the Tiller thing, seems like ancient history now….

  19. 2009 July 4 10:35 am
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    INC permalink

    Thanks, RWY. I stay in email touch with Judy a bit more than beej, but I’ll do that.

  20. 2009 July 4 10:39 am
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    There is something about a Down syndrome child in plain view which has exposed the moral and emotional bankruptcy of the left-wing of the Democratic party.

    Many people feel this way around sick or disabled people. Several of my close friends, though happily not all of them, took this view of Terri Schaivo…

    They looked and her and saw weakness. Even when I presented all the facts of the case, including what her husband did and what the judge did, they did not care.

    “She’s too far gone now, let her die..” and no amount of reasoning or pleading on behalf of Christian charity toward the sick, or toward the innocent who have no voice, would sway them.

    It was a difficult time for me with some of them, finding out what they were like deep down..

    An astonishing number of Americans seem to view the sick/disabled/unborn as life unworthy of life. Instead of a chance to show God’s love and mercy, and to show the power of the human body to persevere and recover, they only want to kill.

    I never want to be like that. There is a time to kill, and there are those persons that will always “need killing.”

    But the sick, the elderly, the innocent disabled, and the unborn are not among them.

  21. 2009 July 4 10:42 am
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    And of course the left wants the power to kill all these types of people, and forbid the killing of remorseless murderers, or other violent criminals.

  22. 2009 July 4 10:48 am
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    unattainably hot-looking existence makes women around the world feel hopelessly inadequate and therefore unhappy.

    Personally, I never thought of Jolie as all that “hot”. She reminded me of her dad, like Mira Sorvino and Liv Tyler. She tried to max out on the superficial features that men enjoy looking at, but IMO, part of what makes a woman attractive to a man is to be at peace with herself, and constantly adding curvature to the various anatomical features makes you wonder what she is trying to prove.

    I guess she would say “hey, I’m trying to be all I can be”. Ok, whatever. But that blood vial around your neck is weirding me out…

  23. 2009 July 4 10:55 am
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    bc3b permalink

    I am sorry Chekote isn’t on this thread.

  24. 2009 July 4 10:56 am
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    bc3b permalink

    INC –

    Good luck and may God be with you.

  25. 2009 July 4 11:11 am
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    brucefdb permalink

    I think you guys have pretty well summed it up. In a nutshell people don’t hate Sarah. Liberals do. We all know Liberals dont rise to the genetic definition of a person.

    All the best INC. Happy fourth to all.

  26. 2009 July 4 11:11 am
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    INC permalink

    Thank you, bc. I appreciate that.

  27. 2009 July 4 11:11 am
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    INC permalink

    Thanks, bruce. Just saw your comment.

  28. 2009 July 4 11:12 am
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    INC permalink

    BTW, I thought Chek wasn’t coming back. What led her to un-do her self-ban?

  29. 2009 July 4 11:14 am
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    INC permalink

    Or do I not need to know?

  30. 2009 July 4 11:15 am
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    janzam permalink

    INC

    Miss your posts. Hope the events in your life even out soon. But, I remember your father died recently, and this kind of loss puts everything in disarray for a while.

  31. 2009 July 4 11:19 am
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    janzam permalink

    Regarding the intensity of feelings towards Palin — people either love her, or love to hate her. I’ve run across very few who are just so-so about her.

    Maybe one reason why people love to hate her, is that they really feel uncomfortable with the magnitudes who support her. This makes them actually “angry” at Palin…and the opposite emotion to anger is “fear.”

  32. 2009 July 4 11:20 am
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Chekote is a blogging terminator, she will never stop unless crushed in a hydraulic press…

  33. 2009 July 4 11:25 am
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    conservativetony permalink

    They hate her because she could care less if they like her or not. I’m not sure, but I think this is more important to women than to men. And Liberal men are just like women anyway. 😀

  34. 2009 July 4 11:25 am
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    INC permalink

    Jan, thank you. Disarray is a descriptive word! There are several things rocking our boat at the moment, including extended family and obamanomics.

    I appreciate the kind thoughts of my cyber-friends.

  35. 2009 July 4 11:29 am
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    INC permalink

    I think this is about the best analysis I’ve seen of Palin’s resignation:

    What Else Was She Supposed To Do?

    Mainly because I agree with it! 🙂

  36. 2009 July 4 11:36 am
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    INC permalink

    He links to another excellent piece:

    Mad Resignation

    If you haven’t seen it, here’s the transcript of Palin’s speech:

    Palin Announces No Second Term

    Lots of good quotes in there. Here’s the basketball analogy referenced in Mad Resignation:

    Let me go back to a comfortable analogy for me – sports… basketball. I use it because you’re naïve if you don’t see the national full-court press picking away right now: A good point guard drives through a full court press, protecting the ball, keeping her eye on the basket… and she knows exactly when to pass the ball so that the team can WIN. And I’m doing that – keeping our eye on the ball that represents sound priorities – smaller government, energy independence, national security, freedom! And I know when it’s time to pass the ball – for victory.

  37. 2009 July 4 11:40 am
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    INC permalink

    The writer of Mad Resignation asks this:

    This decision of Palin’s is not a do-or-die “Hollywood moment” decision, sports-analogy-wise. It’s a workmanlike, 3rd-quarter-adjustment tactical decision – and the question it should lead to is, what does Palin conceive the objective of the game to be?

    This is his answer (my emphasis):

    And I don’t think she sees the objective of the “game” as getting herself into the Oval Office. I think she see it in the terms in which she spoke of it today: as guaranteeing freedom and security for America. To the jaded ears of political pundits, her references to these quantities probably sound like cheap bromides. But she frames them whenever she speaks – as she did so memorably in her convention speech last year – as the things that she, and we, are striving for.

    The objective of the game she has committed to playing is to promote liberty, prosperity, and security for the nation – and it is very possible that it’s not clear in her mind, at this moment, exactly what role she will play in that. She knows she is still in the game, but her role in the offensive game plan may be shifting for tactical reasons. And she has to consider the dead weight her over-covered team position is at the moment, for the state of Alaska – which she probably sees as a bastion of the American ideal, in senses both practical and philosophical. Promoting a future of liberty and prosperity for Alaska is part and parcel of doing so for America; and that has meanings unique to Alaska that she thinks are jeopardized by the focused hostility of the national left toward her.

  38. 2009 July 4 11:44 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    They looked and her and saw weakness. Even when I presented all the facts of the case, including what her husband did and what the judge did, they did not care. — RWY

    RWY, don’t about the rest, but I too see weakness in cases like that. Not for them, for me, for by the Grace of God that could be me given the proper circumstance. Weak because there is nothing I can do to remedy the situation.

  39. 2009 July 4 11:45 am
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    janzam permalink

    They hate her because she could care less if they like her or not.

    Good point, Tony!

  40. 2009 July 4 11:46 am
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    MFG permalink

    “Chekote is a blogging terminator, she will never stop unless crushed in a hydraulic press…”

    LOL!

  41. 2009 July 4 11:47 am
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    MFG permalink

    INC

    Lovely to see you!

  42. 2009 July 4 11:47 am
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    MFG permalink

    Chekote was allowed to unban herself

  43. 2009 July 4 11:48 am
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    MFG permalink

    Not everyone agreed…

  44. 2009 July 4 11:50 am
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    MFG permalink

  45. 2009 July 4 11:50 am
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    janzam permalink

    INC

    Am glad you brought up the “basketball” analogy. I was taken with it too — very descriptive in it’s tactical application.

    I liked how you honed it more with your own analysis, which, again is why I miss your posting so much!

  46. 2009 July 4 11:52 am
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    bc3b permalink

    As I posted earlier, it’s a shame she is not here. Hating Sarah Palin intensely is one of the things Chekote is good at.

  47. 2009 July 4 11:53 am
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    INC permalink

    My comments probably belong on one of the other Palin threads, but since this one is the “goer” at the moment, I’ll leave it here. I agree with JE Dyer’s thoughts in Mad Resignation. This matches Sarah Palin’s character.

    In a well-written mystery, a key to whodunit is character. The author strews conflicting circumstances, but if the characterization is on target, then that becomes the leading modus operandi to sort out the solution.

    Sarah’s character helps us sort out the solution.

    From everything I have seen of Sarah, she is a woman of integrity. She means it when she talks about having a servant’s heart.

    I think she sees that full-court press of destruction bearing down on this country and she knows that it’s time to change tactics to win the game, whether or not she gets to score that basket.

    I think we’ll definitely see some of this played out in her helping in campaigns across the country in the mid-terms. For the rest, I think Sarah will stay flexible and alert.

  48. 2009 July 4 11:59 am
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    chekote permalink

    Because she is beautiful and had a Down Syndrome baby.

  49. 2009 July 4 12:00 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Hello INC

    I hope all is well with your family.

  50. 2009 July 4 12:00 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Going along with looking at Palin’s character, and her patterns of behavior, for that matter, the MacLeod article brought out the other career move she made —-> relinquishing the“chair of the Alaska Oil & Gas Commission – helped accelerate her political ascent.”

    Sometimes you have to let go of something before you are ready to grab onto something else. Far too few politicians do this, however. Just look at the many that run for higher office, while still maintaining their seats in the Senate etc..

  51. 2009 July 4 12:00 pm
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    INC permalink

    Hey, MFG, thanks.

    Jan, thank you. I know who to quote! and I like to put the pieces of the puzzle together. From our basketball in phys ed in jr high and high school, I know enough to know the point guard has to be the best–look at the situation, analyze it, signal and keep the ball or make the right pass at the right time.

    Our men’s high school varsity made it to state competition. The point guard and captain of the team was a short guy, but a terrific player.

  52. 2009 July 4 12:01 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    INC – good to see you again. You and your family have been in my thoughts and prayers – with the holidays and all, I know it is tough with the absence of loved ones.

    Sarah Palin is a threat because she is NOT one of them (beltway elites) but is one of us. Ronald Reagan was disliked as much for the very same reason – he was one of us and NOT one of them. Sarah even more so not having the fame and fortune Ronnie had being in Hollywood.

  53. 2009 July 4 12:01 pm
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    INC permalink

    Hey, chek. Happy 4th!

  54. 2009 July 4 12:02 pm
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    INC permalink

    Thanks, gnqanq.

  55. 2009 July 4 12:07 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Unless some sort of family emergency comes up, Palin is finished. If she had opted to finish her term and then announced she would not seek re-election because she intended to run for POTUS, that would have been a shrewed move but quitting like this in the middle of her first term? No way. One of the main criticisms against her was the lack of experience. How is quitting going to remedy that?

  56. 2009 July 4 12:07 pm
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    janzam permalink

    I saw an old movie, the Matrix, last night. The premise of it, other than the Matrix itself (which seemed eerily like the world Obama’s followers live in), is that you have to unequivocally believe in yourself to accomplish what you want.

    I think this is one of Palin’s real strengths…which is why she so readily can go against the grain to seek what she believes is best for this country.

  57. 2009 July 4 12:09 pm
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    INC permalink

    Found this in Wiki’s article on Point Guards:

    A point guard, like all player positions in basketball, has specific characteristics that are essential for them to help guide their team to a victory… Point guards should also be vocal floor leaders, and should discuss rule interpretations with officials. A point guard must always know the time on both the shot clock and the game clock, the score, the number of timeouts for both teams, and whom to foul late in the game.

    A true point guard’s job is to create scoring opportunities for his/her team. The role includes passing and running the offense: setting up plays on the court, getting the ball to the teammate that he feels is in the best position to score, and dictating the tempo of the game. This also means knowing when and how to instigate a fast break and when and how to initiate the more deliberate sets.

    After an opponent scores, it is typically the point guard who brings the ball down court to begin an offensive play. For this reason, passing skills, ball handling, and court vision are pivotal.

    How very prescient!

    IMO, Sarah has court vision!

    You know, coaches always go on and on about sports teaching you about life.

    They’re right.

  58. 2009 July 4 12:10 pm
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    janzam permalink

    In fact (referring to the Matrix movie again), is Palin, much like “Neil,” The One,…..ordained to lead us out of this mess????

  59. 2009 July 4 12:10 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Here is my theory about this:

    1) Family illness or emergency in which case she still can come back;

    2) E-mails from the campaign were starting to link out and they were not favorable to Palin. More to come so she decided to stop it by stepping down.

  60. 2009 July 4 12:11 pm
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    chekote permalink

    INC

    They only problem the basketball analysis is the Palin had dropped the ball a long time ago. She has no ball to pass.

  61. 2009 July 4 12:12 pm
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    conservativetony permalink

    Thanks, Jan

    There has been some really great posts lately regarding Palin, both pro and con. But even before that, Conservative blogs across the spectrum have been quite busy lately. Conservatives are getting restless and can’t wait for 2010. Something big is about to happen.

  62. 2009 July 4 12:13 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Is it that you see something others don’t see, Chek?

    Or, is it that you have hit a brick wall in how you view Palin. and are unable to see beyond it?

  63. 2009 July 4 12:14 pm
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    INC permalink

    Jan, I have to admit I’ve never seen the Matrix. I think Sarah knows herself and her abilities and looks to God for guidance at each decision.

    Another quote from Mad Resignation:

    Take or leave it as you will. Sarah Palin is an evangelical Christian, and in my opinion, she thinks of God as the head coach: the one with the strategy for the whole game, as regards both herself, and the fate of the United States. I suspect the idea of resigning has been in her mind, and she has turned it over and over and asked for guidance about it from God…

    My guess is that Palin is less politically calculating than willing to take an unconventional risk on faith.

    I’m an evangelical Christian myself, and I understand this aspect of Sarah’s thinking.

    It’s outside conventional political thinking, but Sarah Palin was never much on conventional political thinking in the first place!

    🙂

  64. 2009 July 4 12:17 pm
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    chekote permalink

    I do wish people on the Right would stop using Trig to make political points. The Dems and liberals would never have voted for Sarah even if Trig wasn’t in the picture. The problem with her is that she didn’t appeal to indies, defense hawks and other Republican leaning voters. Bringing Trig up over and over just makes conservatives look silly. I couldn’t care less that she had Trig. I would have equally not cared if she had chosen to abort Trig. It is not an issue to people who believe that these decisions belong to the individual and her family not government.

  65. 2009 July 4 12:17 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    much like “Neil,” The One,…..ordained to lead us out of this mess????

    Jan, lol, lololol…..hahahahaha.

    It’s “Neo”… “Neo” is “the One”…

    lololol…..

  66. 2009 July 4 12:18 pm
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    janzam permalink

    It’s outside conventional political thinking, but Sarah Palin was never much on conventional political thinking in the first place!

    ….which is what makes her unique and so “refreshing,” in my book.

    I am quite frankly tired of all the political posturing, beltway egos, insincerity, and back-biting that seems to be mainstream politics these days.

    Give me a Sarah Palin, and I will vote for her!

  67. 2009 July 4 12:19 pm
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    INC permalink

    Well, chek, if she doesn’t, then why has everyone and their brother (aunt, uncle, you name it) gone after her?

    IMHO, she has that ball and they know it. They’ve been trying to rip it from her fingers and they’ve committed continuous personal fouls to do so.

    To quote Sarah:

    I do not want to disappoint anyone with my decision; all I can ask is that you TRUST me with this decision – but it’s no more “politics as usual”…

    We need those who will respect our Constitution where government’s supposed to serve from the BOTTOM UP, not move toward this TOP DOWN big government take-over… but rather, will be protectors of individual rights – who also have enough common sense to acknowledge when conditions have drastically changed and are willing to call an audible and pass the ball when it’s time so the team can win! And that is what I’m doing!

    …In the words of General MacArthur said, “We are not retreating. We are advancing in another direction.”

  68. 2009 July 4 12:19 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Are you serious rwy — “Neo?” was his name, as it sounded like “Neil.”

  69. 2009 July 4 12:19 pm
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    MFG permalink

    Chekote

    The point is that the intensity of the opposition is WILDLY over the top

    Look at the deranged gibberish emanating from your buddy Andrew Sullivan

    Why is the hatred so INTENSE, so vicious and so PERSONAL?

  70. 2009 July 4 12:19 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    I do wish people on the Right would stop using Trig to make political points. The Dems and liberals would never have voted for Sarah even if Trig wasn’t in the picture. The problem with her is that she didn’t appeal to indies, defense hawks and other Republican leaning voters.

    This is stupid, Sarah is much stronger on defense issue than anyone else in the race, on either side…

    Indies leaned Obama, and have now regretted their choice…

    Republicans did not get any “leaners” in the last election….

  71. 2009 July 4 12:19 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Jan

    More and more conservative voices where joining my point of view. Did you catch the letter to Palin by Jonah Goldberg? Look you want to believe that Palin is great and is the answer fine. I choose to look at the facts. She wasn’t prepared for the national stage. She did nothing to improve her knowlege after the election. She was not viable. She has charisma. She is great looking. But she is not viable.

  72. 2009 July 4 12:20 pm
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    INC permalink

    Jan, a lot of people are tired of political grandstanding and posturing.

  73. 2009 July 4 12:20 pm
    [73]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Are you serious rwy — “Neo?” was his name, as it sounded like “Neil.”

    hahahahahahahahahaha…… deep breath…….hahahahahahahahahaha..

    Jan, that is HILARIOUS….

  74. 2009 July 4 12:20 pm
    [74]
    MFG permalink

    Even if everything negative you say about her were true it doesn’t justify the wildly disproportionate response

    There’s something more going on here than just political opposition…

  75. 2009 July 4 12:21 pm
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    INC permalink

    RWY, the indies have left Obama big time according to the latest Rasmussen from the other day. They are gone from the Dem fold.

  76. 2009 July 4 12:22 pm
    [76]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Leave Chekote alone with her maladies…….

    There is no problem with Palin, that a few policy speeches cannot fix… as far as we know at this time, of course……

  77. 2009 July 4 12:22 pm
    [77]
    chekote permalink

    Why is the hatred so INTENSE, so vicious and so PERSONAL?

    Are you looking for an answer or is it just a rhetorical question?

  78. 2009 July 4 12:22 pm
    [78]
    MFG permalink

    The Communists are terrified Palin will bring women back to the GOP bigtime

  79. 2009 July 4 12:22 pm
    [79]
    INC permalink

    MFG, I agree. The reaction is vitriolic and intense.

  80. 2009 July 4 12:23 pm
    [80]
    gnqanq permalink

    The big problem amongst conservatives is the lack of a leader with vision.

    The GOP lost its way. Why, because it discarded what work. Since Eisenhower we have had one true Conservative President. He had minorities in the Congress, yet was able to get most of what he wanted.

    We know conservatism wins, yet the GOP wants to run as Dem lite.

    The true conservative base is excited by Sarah. Has any other GOP politician excited anyone, let alone the numbers Sarah generates. Go back to prior to Sarah being named VP, what types of crowds was John McCain generating.

    Sarah is a charismatic individual who has basic conservative values and beliefs. She sees what is coming and knows it is time to engage to preserve who and what we are. She will do this in a manner she believes is most effective.

  81. 2009 July 4 12:23 pm
    [81]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Jan has got me laughing harder than I have in a month……

  82. 2009 July 4 12:24 pm
    [82]
    chekote permalink

    There is no problem with Palin, that a few policy speeches cannot fix… as far as we know at this time, of course……

    That was true before she quit. Now she has a bigger problem unless some kind of family emergency comes to light.

  83. 2009 July 4 12:24 pm
    [83]
    INC permalink

    gnqanq,

    Sarah is a charismatic individual who has basic conservative values and beliefs. She sees what is coming and knows it is time to engage to preserve who and what we are. She will do this in a manner she believes is most effective.

    I agree.

  84. 2009 July 4 12:25 pm
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    MFG permalink

    I want an answer

    If she was unqualified for VP in 2008 she was no more so than say John Edwards was and no one was foaming at the mouth attacking him

    He got routine political attacks, as Palin could have expected

    Instead she got savage never ending grotesquely unfair smear campaigns the like of which this country has never seen

  85. 2009 July 4 12:27 pm
    [85]
    janzam permalink

    Jan has got me laughing harder than I have in a month……—>rwy

    You definitely caught me on that one! 🙂

  86. 2009 July 4 12:27 pm
    [86]
    conservativetony permalink

    “RWY, the indies have left Obama big time according to the latest Rasmussen from the other day. They are gone from the Dem fold.”

    Ha ha ha. I will laugh my a$$ off when the fake Conservative Democrats running for reelection put up a YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE sign to keep Obama as far away as possible.

  87. 2009 July 4 12:28 pm
    [87]
    INC permalink

    The Dems hate her because her very character reveals who they are.

    The elite GOP hate her because she is who they pretend to be.

    As phin said of the USA, It is a rougher, cruder, louder country, with a great big heart, compassion, honesty, and enthusiasm for life. And this is what Palin reflects. And like many previous American politicians, she succeeds by tapping into this basic characteristic of America.

    The pundits hate her because she doesn’t play by their rules of politics.

  88. 2009 July 4 12:29 pm
    [88]
    MFG permalink

    Attacking someone’s teenage daughter!

    How disgraceful!

    How would the press treat similar attacks on Obama’s daughters…???

  89. 2009 July 4 12:30 pm
    [89]
    INC permalink

    Tony, you know they’re going to do that! When campaigning for the midterms gets really going, the welcome mat for Obama isn’t going to be ther.

  90. 2009 July 4 12:30 pm
    [90]
    conservativetony permalink

    I should have added this to my previous comment, but better late than never.

    In a year from now, who will be more shunned by their own party, Obama or Palin?

  91. 2009 July 4 12:31 pm
    [91]
    INC permalink

    Tony,

    Ha! The R candidates will be begging her to campaign for them!

  92. 2009 July 4 12:34 pm
    [92]
    conservativetony permalink

    I’m telling you guys, Palin’s decision to turn the reins over to her capable successor could be just what our party needed.

  93. 2009 July 4 12:37 pm
    [93]
    gnqanq permalink

    Do you think that Sarah sees a disillusioned GOP that has no rallying point, has no one leading the way.

    Look at how Rush Limbaugh seems to be the voice of conservatives. How he seems to be the primary voice from the right to take on “zero”. From even prior to “zero” taking office and until recently, the GOP sat quietly taking it in the rear with a smile on their face. Rush was one of a few who spoke up and said stop.

    Sarah can be that person to energize the loyal opposition (GOP) and support House and Senate challengers in 2010. Who else is doing that? Thus laying the ground work for a GOP win 2012. Whether it be her or someone else in the GOP.

    Right now, there is no one taking the lead. We saw how excited people were with Romney, Jeb Bush, Huckabee, Rudy or anyone else since the election.

    Remember, 40% of the people consider themselves to be Conservative.

  94. 2009 July 4 12:37 pm
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    janzam permalink

    I’m one who believes that truth and goodness have a ring to them that eventually catches people’s attention. I think people innately are looking for that within themselves, and when someone comes along who naturally enacts that in their life it is magnetic.

    Sarah Palin seems to have such a quality. And, I think that quality may override what she may lack in “polish.”

  95. 2009 July 4 12:38 pm
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    janzam permalink

    BTW great thoughts in your Posts, gnqanq> You’re on a roll!

  96. 2009 July 4 12:40 pm
    [96]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    It’s true. The GOP is leaderless and adrift. Let the girl have the wheel, if no one else wants it.

  97. 2009 July 4 12:41 pm
    [97]
    MFG permalink

    Again:

    If she was unqualified for VP in 2008 she was no more so than say John Edwards was in 2004 and no one was foaming at the mouth attacking him

    He got routine political attacks, as Palin could have expected

    Instead she got savage never ending grotesquely unfair smear campaigns the like of which this country has never seen before

    Why…???

  98. 2009 July 4 12:43 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Maureen Dowd has hit the papers with her column trashing Palin. It is almost like getting a merit badge when you ruffle so many in the MSM!

  99. 2009 July 4 12:44 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    Jan – to me it is reality, the facts on the ground.

    I get so tired of that we can not say a bad thing about “zero” or we are racists for opposing “the one”. BS on that and that is what I tell people. I oppose “zero” because of his policies and what they will do. If it is racism, then tell me why I voted for Ken Blackwell for Governor (Ohio) over that white guy from southern ohio who is a blue dog democrat.

  100. 2009 July 4 12:46 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Agree 100%, gnqanq!

  101. 2009 July 4 12:47 pm
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    conservativetony permalink

    Maureen Dowd called her nutty, but sadly enough, many of the commenters at HHR are using words like ‘loser’. I figured Sarah would have a home there, even if they don’t support her for POTUS.

  102. 2009 July 4 12:50 pm
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    chekote permalink

    The Left started its attacks on Palin because of her successful launch at the GOP convention. She delivered a great speech. Women flocked to her and so did indies (take a look at the polls). So initially the visciuoness of the attack was due to the fact that Palin was threatening Obama’s coronation. After the Couric interview, the Left came to regard her as an idiot like Bush. The Left enjoys attacking Palin the idiot as much as they still enjoy attacking Bush the idiot. Reading some deeper meaning it is just foolish and will lead conservative to draw the wrong conclusion.

  103. 2009 July 4 12:52 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    IF Sarah was the nominee in 2012, how many more women would vote for her over any other white guy from the GOP? The women’s gap has hurt the GOP. Do we run a candidate based on identity politics – NO. But it does have a real impact and real numbers behind it.

    How many people voted for “zero” just because he was black (not counting blacks)? How many people wanted to vote for the 1st black president? It was history and they wanted to be part of history. These are facts, may not be pleasant but it is reality.

  104. 2009 July 4 12:54 pm
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    janzam permalink

    O/T for a moment…

    Over at instapundit they have been posting pictures for days of various tea party gatherings around the country. Of course the press doesn’t seem to be covering them. But, that doesn’t mean they are not happening!

    I don’t know if they will be able to match the numbers of the April tea parties, but the fact that a leaderless movement is still able to galvanize unrelated people across the country to congregate for purposes of liberty and freedom is impressive.

    There is such a party slated in our area which my husband and I are going to attend. This morning we went down to “Main Street” for a homespun parade of community organizations, fire and police depts, local high school band and city officials. It was fun and uplifting to see the American flag on display, giving credence to Rasmussen’s poll today saying that 62% of Americans polled say that July 4th is the most important holiday of the year!

  105. 2009 July 4 12:55 pm
    [105]
    MFG permalink

    But Joe Biden is as stupid as a can of lima beans

    Why no hatred of him…???

  106. 2009 July 4 12:56 pm
    [106]
    conservativetony permalink

    Chekote,

    You can continue to call Bush and Palin idiots; that’t what you do. You have been calling her an idiot for the longest time–probably even before the convention.

    Anyway, when you say “Sarah is an idiot” or “Bush is an idiot”, would you consider that to be one of those old, worn out cliches Krauthammer as talking about?

  107. 2009 July 4 12:57 pm
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    MFG permalink

    Real reason:

    Leftists are TERRIFIED Palin brings women back to the GOP

  108. 2009 July 4 12:59 pm
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    janzam permalink

    gnqanq

    The woman’s vote for Palin seems to be split. Midwestern woman, Christian and stay-at-home Moms love her. But, for some reason, professional (NOW types) don’t. In fact, they, like Chek infers, think that she is dumb and a loser.

  109. 2009 July 4 1:01 pm
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    chekote permalink

    The women’s gap has hurt the GOP.

    Palin has not put forth an agenda that will bring women back to the GOP.

  110. 2009 July 4 1:02 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Biden, like so many other foot-in-mouth leftists, seem insulated from their shortcomings becoming canon fodder for the MSM.

  111. 2009 July 4 1:04 pm
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    janzam permalink

    I don’t think that Palin divides up a constituency like other politicians do, in having to do this for the woman’s black, hispanic etc. vote.

    Rather, her candidacy is based on values, principles that cross all gender and racial lines. You either are in sync with them or you’re not.

  112. 2009 July 4 1:04 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    Jan – if Sarah can bring those (midwestern, christians & stay at home) women out in droves – it could be the difference between winning and losing.

    I have noticed how nuts those women are for Sarah. And how motivated they are. I also noticed that some of those traditional women from the Democratic side were for Sarah. Not many but maybe enough. Look no further than Greta. Have you noticed how pro-Sarah Greta seems to be. Yet she favors Democratic issues. Her husband was a big backer of Hillary and was the one behind Democrats for McCain.

  113. 2009 July 4 1:05 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    CT –

    Chekote use cliches? You can’t be sefrious.

  114. 2009 July 4 1:05 pm
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    chekote permalink

    But, for some reason, professional (NOW types) don’t. In fact, they, like Chek infers, think that she is dumb and a loser.

    Because her candidacy was an insult to professional women. Look everybody like her (including me) when she came on the scene. Bartiromo really like her because Palin was presented as a competent executive/reformer. A working mom juggling many things. However, her lack of knowledge about national issues reduced her candidacy to a cheap, cynical play to get women’s votes and it backfired. To suggest that professional women would vote for a woman based on gender alone is insulting.

  115. 2009 July 4 1:07 pm
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    janzam permalink

    gnqanq — the women that Sarah attracts are the blocks that have been cited. And, yes, if she can appeal to them, in mass, it is a solid block of votes. And, it will probably polarize the NOW vote even more!

  116. 2009 July 4 1:08 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Look I told you why the Left dislikes her. Buy you guys want to wallow in the unfairness of it all. What can I tell you? Life is unfair. What matters is how you deal with the unfairness. Liz Cheney deals with it but being knowledgeable, prepared and outmaneveuring the Left with FACTS. Palin, so far, has dealth with it by becoming bitter about it.

  117. 2009 July 4 1:08 pm
    [117]
    conservativetony permalink

    Palin has not put forth an agenda that will bring women back to the GOP.—Chec

    Uhh, she’s been running a state and fighting stupid-ass ethics complaints. Why do you think she quit?

    Think, Chekote, think.

  118. 2009 July 4 1:08 pm
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    MFG permalink

    A TRUE feminist would ADORE Palin

    Successful without a man’s help at a very young age, happy, accomplished, family, husband

    Isn’t this what feminism was SUPPOSED to be about?

    TRUE equality for women

    She EMBODIES this…

  119. 2009 July 4 1:08 pm
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    chekote permalink

    First of all NOW doesn’t represent the vast majority of women. So why even bring them up? They don’t speak for women. Haven’t in years.

  120. 2009 July 4 1:09 pm
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    MFG permalink

    If she were a liberal and had been picked by Obama these same people would be convulsing in apoplexies of adoration for Palin…

  121. 2009 July 4 1:10 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    MFG –

    “But Joe Biden is as stupid as a can of lima beans

    Why no hatred of him…???”

    Because he’s part of the Obama administration, Making Slo Joe look bad is one of the easiest things to do, but MSM resists.

    One of the best examples was the Couric interview with Biden in which Slo Joe talked about going on TV to address the American people in 1929. Couric knew better. She was in middle school in 1929.

  122. 2009 July 4 1:10 pm
    [122]
    MFG permalink

    TERRIFIED of her…

  123. 2009 July 4 1:11 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Chek — This is where I really disagree with you. I never saw Palin as having “a lack of knowledge,” so much as just being a newbie on the political scene and being played as a ingenue sucker by the MSM.

  124. 2009 July 4 1:11 pm
    [124]
    INC permalink

    Jan, good point about Sarah not dividing up a constituency. I think she does pull people with values, principles that cross all gender and racial lines.

    It occurs to me that that’s another reason they hate her. She’s not relying on the identity politics that is the breath of life to the Left.

    Which also leads me to a thought regarding the way that the Dems (and R lites) always fake they’re more centrist–even at times conservative–than they really are. The real deal shows up the phonies.

  125. 2009 July 4 1:12 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    Jan – it will polarize NOW, but there will be breaks from within NOW. Remember that one women from LA (NOW) who came out for McCain, just because Sarah was on the ticket and how “zero” treated Hillary.

    There are women within NOW who it is about women first. They will come across the aisle and vote for Sarah. Even more so when they realize how pragmatic Sarah is.

  126. 2009 July 4 1:13 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    chekote –

    “First of all NOW doesn’t represent the vast majority of women. So why even bring them up? They don’t speak for women. Haven’t in years.”

    Good point. I wonder what the average age of a NOW member is. My guess would be late 50s – early 60s.

  127. 2009 July 4 1:13 pm
    [127]
    janzam permalink

    MFG — A true feminist is totally different than the “feminist” depicted by the left.

  128. 2009 July 4 1:14 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Uhh, she’s been running a state and fighting stupid-ass ethics complaints. Why do you think she quit?

    For God’s sake how many complaints, investigations were filed against the Clintons. Did they quit? Their legal bills ran in the millions. SarahPAC had raised hundreds of thousands to pay for her bills. I don’t know why she quit. Either some kind of family emergency or negative stuff was coming out and she thought she could stop it by getting off the stage.

  129. 2009 July 4 1:14 pm
    [129]
    conservativetony permalink

    As Rush once said, ‘I can get behind the women’s movement’

  130. 2009 July 4 1:15 pm
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    janzam permalink

    The real deal shows up the phonies.–>INC

    This is the crux of the argument, and what lifts Palin above the rest. And, she isn’t even trying to be anything but herself!

  131. 2009 July 4 1:15 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Good point. I wonder what the average age of a NOW member is. My guess would be late 50s – early 60s.

    And mostly lesbians.

  132. 2009 July 4 1:16 pm
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    chekote permalink

    And, she isn’t even trying to be anything but herself!

    And herself ain’t good enough for the national stage.

  133. 2009 July 4 1:17 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    It was a mistake for Nicole Wallace to schedule Palin’s first interviews on network news in a taped format, where they could be easily edited.

    Live interviews only – that’s what GOP candidates should insist upon.

  134. 2009 July 4 1:17 pm
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    janzam permalink

    gnqanq — woman who see things in Palin that are genuine and honest will break ranks, no matter what their affiliation.

  135. 2009 July 4 1:19 pm
    [135]
    gnqanq permalink

    jan – I agree.

  136. 2009 July 4 1:19 pm
    [136]
    chekote permalink

    Jan

    Watch this video. She made a connection between the Paulson Plan (bailout bill) and healthcare. These are Sarah’s words not Couric.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heAibiOJ5NE

    You still think she was prepared?

  137. 2009 July 4 1:20 pm
    [137]
    chekote permalink

    woman who see things in Palin that are genuine and honest will break ranks, no matter what their affiliation.

    What things?

  138. 2009 July 4 1:21 pm
    [138]
    chekote permalink

    BC

    You can blame editing all you want. Palin was not knowledgeable about the issues. Period. End of story.

  139. 2009 July 4 1:21 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    It’s going to be interesting over the next few months seeing what lengths MSM will go to in protecting Obama if the wheels come off the wagon.

    At the time the Stimulus was passed, it was around 7% and Obama claimed it would go to 9% without the Stimulus. It’s 9.5% now.

  140. 2009 July 4 1:21 pm
    [140]
    chekote permalink

    TERRIFIED of her…

    Yeah, we are shaking in out boots. Especially, now that she quit.

  141. 2009 July 4 1:24 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Chek, the video was awkward and Palin’s ideas/thoughts did not flow well.

    But, rather than see it as not understanding the issues, it seemed more that she did not know how to convey the complexity of the issues well during what must have been an intimidating Couric interview.

  142. 2009 July 4 1:26 pm
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    janzam permalink

    I think if Palin decides to go for a national position, she will be able to make some corrections in her demeaner which will make all the difference in how she comes across to people.

  143. 2009 July 4 1:26 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    I have never denied Palin had a poor performance with Couric. Gibson was out to get her with the Bush Doctine, which he himself didn’t understand.

    Rergardless of who the candidate is, it’s important to remember that 90%+ of MSM (producers and writers as well as on-camera talent are liberal Dems. They want their candidates and issues to look good.

  144. 2009 July 4 1:27 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    For God’s sake how many complaints, investigations were filed against the Clintons. Did they quit? — Chek

    Chek, let me ask you. If someone kept doing the same thing and not extracting themselves from the situation, wouldn’t you consider that stupid? Clinton should have gotten out. He was in a hole and digging deeper. But the man had no options other than going out on the lecture circuit. (Remember at the time he had been stripped from the bar.) So that was a man with nowhere to go. Did they quit? — They had no choice. I would not then make the leap that translates to courage.

    Palin does and decided for her own reasons to move on.

  145. 2009 July 4 1:27 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Chek, the video was awkward and Palin’s ideas/thoughts did not flow well.

    It is worse than that. There was no connection between the bailout and healthcare. She was foolish in trying to make a connection.

  146. 2009 July 4 1:28 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Palin needs to shed the Alaska image. You can’t do that as the state’s governor.

  147. 2009 July 4 1:29 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Years ago I was terrified of public speaking. But, because I started taking a larger role in my son’t middle school, I was forced to publically explain certain issues. At the beginning I sounded choppy and not well-versed on the subject. But, with more experience I have become a much better speaker, over the years.

    Practice makes perfect, as they say!

  148. 2009 July 4 1:30 pm
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    chekote permalink

    I think if Palin decides to go for a national position, she will be able to make some corrections in her demeaner which will make all the difference in how she comes across to people.

    That was true BEFORE she quit. Now how is she going to overcome the charge that she doesn’t have enough experience? Yes, I know. The Palinistas will say but Obama was only in the Senate two years before he started running for POTUS. Yeah, but Obama didn’t quit his job.

  149. 2009 July 4 1:31 pm
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    chekote permalink

    BC

    There is nothing wrong with Alaska. Palin needed to shed the image that she wasn’t versed on national issues. That required for her to hit the books. For eight months she chose not to do it.

  150. 2009 July 4 1:32 pm
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    janzam permalink

    It is worse than that. There was no connection between the bailout and healthcare. She was foolish in trying to make a connection.

    Chek – Palin was nervous. She was looking down at her notes a lot.

    nerves + dependence on notes = sloppy performance & disconnection to the subject being discussed

  151. 2009 July 4 1:33 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Why no hatred of him…???”

    Why would the Left hate one of its own? You really need to get over your Palin crush. You are starting to make as much sense as Sanford. I guess love does make men stupid. *sigh*

  152. 2009 July 4 1:33 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    janzam

    I think if Palin decides to go for a national position, she will be able to make some corrections in her demeaner which will make all the difference in how she comes across to people.

    She needs a speech coach to teach her breath control. I noticed in the speech the other day that she sounded choppy because she was taking breaths mid sentence. Though I also noticed she spoke slower during that speech too. She’s learning.

  153. 2009 July 4 1:34 pm
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    chekote permalink

    All I noticed in the speech yesterday is that she was nervous also.

  154. 2009 July 4 1:35 pm
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    janzam permalink

    To some Palin may never be able to overcome the assertion they try to tie to her of “being a quitter.”

    So what! She can just let the crows have their day on the sidelines, while she makes headlines in other more positive areas. The crows will soon get sore throats!

  155. 2009 July 4 1:35 pm
    [155]
    INC permalink

    Jan, there is nothing like having to explain and defend yourself on an issue to learn the cogent points and usual lines of attack. Your original position stays the same, but you learn to articulate it, defend it and turn the tables to go after those in opposition.

  156. 2009 July 4 1:35 pm
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    conservativetony permalink

    In a year from now, we’ll see who’s right: Palin or Chekote.

    I’ve got my money on Palin.

  157. 2009 July 4 1:37 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    chekote –

    “TERRIFIED of her…

    Yeah, we are shaking in out boots. Especially, now that she quit.”

    Exactly. not being governor, there’s nothing keeping her chained to Alaska, she can be anywhere in the country. My guess is that Kay Barely Republican is among those who should be terrified of her. Do you have a caged room you keep Mr. Chekote in when Sarah is in Texas?

  158. 2009 July 4 1:37 pm
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    MFG permalink

    LOL!

    Freudian slip on your part Chekote

    I said LEFTISTS are terrified of Palin

    Your response was “Yeah, we are shaking in our boots.”

    Let the cat out of the bag there, didn’t we…???

    LOL!!

  159. 2009 July 4 1:39 pm
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    janzam permalink

    She needs a speech coach to teach her breath control.

    Yes, you’re right drdog. There is a popular morning radio show talk host who, years ago, recounted how he went through extensive sessions “training” his voice to carry off a successful radio show. He talked about the breath, the rapidity of talking, emphasis on certain words — there is a technique to talking where others will listen attentively.

    I talk too fast when I argue with my husband. Now, I’m slowing it down a bit, and he stays in the room a little longer LOL.

  160. 2009 July 4 1:40 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    CT –

    Chekote has been right plenty of times. There was …. No, she was wrong then. What about ………..? No, that didn’t work out either. We;;, I bet she had some correct answers on her grade school math tests.

  161. 2009 July 4 1:40 pm
    [161]
    MFG permalink

    “Why would the Left hate one of its own? You really need to get over your Palin crush. You are starting to make as much sense as Sanford. I guess love does make men stupid. ”

    Stop that bullshit

    I don’t even support Palin

    I’m making logical arguments and you can’t answer them…

  162. 2009 July 4 1:40 pm
    [162]
    drdog09 permalink

    It is worse than that. There was no connection between the bailout and healthcare. She was foolish in trying to make a connection. — Chek

    Why? Obama has at least three times I know of made the very claim that to fix the economy we need to reform health care. Nice try.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R_VcD3TuTw Go to about the :30 mark. Or here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVN5rEEPhdY at the :12 mark.

    What you and most of the pols miss is that regardless of what they do, the health care costs HAVE to rise. The largest population of Americans ever are retiring. They will end up on Medicare/Medicaid regardless. On a dollar cost basis even with a fixed unit cost per patient the gross $$ cost of those programs are going to rise.

  163. 2009 July 4 1:43 pm
    [163]
    janzam permalink

    Your original position stays the same, but you learn to articulate it, defend it and turn the tables to go after those in opposition.

    Articulation of one’s message is the key. Once a person learns how to do that, often times the performance is what is remembered and not the message. Isn’t that how Obama got to be where he is?

  164. 2009 July 4 1:44 pm
    [164]
    drdog09 permalink

    I talk too fast when I argue with my husband. Now, I’m slowing it down a bit, and he stays in the room a little longer LOL. — janzam

    Good for you. My wife just tells me — ‘you need to think faster!’.

  165. 2009 July 4 1:44 pm
    [165]
    janzam permalink

    Boy, people are really on today in their points. It’s like a bloody debate team here!

    Good one, drdog!

  166. 2009 July 4 1:46 pm
    [166]
    janzam permalink

    ‘you need to think faster!’.

    I totally understand that comment. But, it doesn’t work well, saying it out loud to your spouse. The goal is understanding, not further alienation! 🙂

  167. 2009 July 4 1:47 pm
    [167]
    conservativetony permalink

    BC

    LOL. Even a broken clock……

  168. 2009 July 4 1:54 pm
    [168]
    INC permalink

    Jan, actually I think Obama had no message. He was and is just a flim flam man. He wrote something to the effect that he is a blank screen on which people project their own hopes and dreams–essentially what they want him to be. They voted for a mirage.

  169. 2009 July 4 1:54 pm
    [169]
    drdog09 permalink

    The goal is understanding, not further alienation! 🙂 — Janzam

    We do too J. We’ve just learned to say what we have to say without the defense-attack pitch in the voice. Plus she’s pretty down to earth so when she says something I usually don’t throw it away.

  170. 2009 July 4 1:56 pm
    [170]
    bc3b permalink

    Former NFL QB Steve McNair has been shot to death along with a female. Not sure if it was murder-suicide or double murder until more details become known.

  171. 2009 July 4 1:57 pm
    [171]
    drdog09 permalink

  172. 2009 July 4 1:58 pm
    [172]
    INC permalink

    Yes!

  173. 2009 July 4 1:59 pm
    [174]
    janzam permalink

    INC – I was alluding to the fact that Obama had no message. But, he had perfected his “performance,” which is what everybody bought, hook, line and sinker!

    Below is a John Ziegler phone interview with Palin before her resignation. It shows her POV, and focus, especially in light of all the negatives people keep piling on her.

    She seems to rise above, or transcend the problems, which I think is a wonderful quality of any leader.

    Did Palin hint at quitting last month?

  174. 2009 July 4 2:03 pm
    [175]
    INC permalink

    We’re on the same track then, Jan.

    Even as a speaker, I have to say that the little I have listened to Obama, he has always seemed so remote, so aloof, so conceited, it is hard to understand how audiences respond to him. A commenter on HA thought his style is typical of a narcissist–there is an inability to personally engage with your audience. I thought the observation was correct.

  175. 2009 July 4 2:06 pm
    [176]
    gnqanq permalink

    O/T

    dr dog – considering that “zero” is going to Russia and since you have the resident Russian expert in your home.

    How bad does your wife think Putin & Company will eat “zero’s” lunch and have him pay for it?

  176. 2009 July 4 2:13 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    How bad does your wife think Putin & Company will eat “zero’s” lunch and have him pay for it? — GN

    Heh. I had that very discussion with her yesterday. I told her she needed to write a letter to Putin that he’s a wonderful bluffer but holds lousy poker hands all the time. She thinks he probably have Obama folding on the missile defense program for eastern europe before he comes back. She also finds it odd that Clinton is not going to Russia too. Russians are thinking that more than just politics, but a Trostkyesque import of some sort.

    The Poles on the other hand will be hating O’s guts.

  177. 2009 July 4 2:14 pm
    [178]
    conservativetony permalink

    GN, thanks for the reminder. The question is, how will Obama apologize for what Reagan did to the Russians?

    I hear he’s going to trash the SALT treatie(s). Think he’ll say something memorable like “Trust, but verify”? Or will he says something like, “America trusts you, so we won’t need to verify. However, given our past….”

  178. 2009 July 4 2:17 pm
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    janzam permalink

    INC — We’re in agreement, as to how we see Obama’s personal style, too. I simply don’t like his voice. It sounds “abrupt” and “haughty” to me. But, as you well know, others just seem to curl up around it, and give in to whatever he says. ??????? As for me, I more often than not just turn the dial when he comes on.

  179. 2009 July 4 2:19 pm
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    janzam permalink

    She also finds it odd that Clinton is not going to Russia too.

    Broken elbow or not, I am finding H. Clinton’s role in the Obama Administration more than odd. She seems to all but have disappeared in a job that is usually very high profile.

  180. 2009 July 4 2:19 pm
    [181]
    INC permalink

    I’ll never figure it out–haughty is a key word.

    I know that when Muir of Day By Day draws him for a comic, he always has O’s nose in the air.

  181. 2009 July 4 2:22 pm
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    INC permalink

    Clarify–O’s appeal is what I can’t figure out.

    It was like mass hypnosis or something.

  182. 2009 July 4 2:23 pm
    [183]
    bc3b permalink

    Chekote –

    You seldom comment on whom you would like as the 2012 GOP nominee. You liked Sanford, as I did, but he’s toast. Tou’re not fond of Romney. Of the potential standard bearers, whom do you like?

  183. 2009 July 4 2:24 pm
    [184]
    gnqanq permalink

    dr dog – thanks for the info

  184. 2009 July 4 2:29 pm
    [185]
    bc3b permalink

    I think Hillary wishes she had stayed in the Senate. When Zero explodes, she could have challenged him in 2012 from the senate. That’s hard to do when you’re on the team.

    Can’t understand why people leave the Senate for cabinet positions. The House maybe, but not the Senate.

  185. 2009 July 4 2:43 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    It will be interesting to see what role Palin takes. If she becomes spokesperson for the conservative point of view, I can see it deepening the divide in the GOP with DC insiders against her and people like Limbaugh, Levin and Gallagher backing her.

    Love her or haye her, you have to admit that Sarah makes things more interesting.

  186. 2009 July 4 2:53 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Had Hillary not been so hell bent for being on a “ticket,” she could have stayed in the Senate, becoming the Democratic Voice of Reason, countering all of obama’s off-the-wall, no good policies.

    Instead, she stands by his side, is said to have “whispered” to him to be more outspoken in support for the Iranian dissentents. And, will most probably go down with Obama’s ship of fools, when it hopefully sinks on the weight of it’s own misguided folly.

  187. 2009 July 4 3:00 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    I never understood why Clinton did it. I understand why Obama offered it. But Clinton I saw no tactical advantage to her. She has not really done well at it either. So if she was looking to polish her executive and foreign relations credentials I think she has not done herself any favors.

  188. 2009 July 4 3:22 pm
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    janzam permalink

    On 4th of July this seems like a apropros for this youtube video to be looked at for a 2nd time. A friend of mine, sent it to me, who I thought was very liberal. But, she seems to agree with it, and wanted me to pass it around. Attached to the email was this message:

    This guy’s video on youtube has been so popular that
    > > Obama called him
    > >
    > > personally. He said that he was very disturbed with the
    > > video and invited
    > >
    > > him to the White House. Obama also said he wanted the White
    > > House to handle
    > >
    > > the Press and not to talk about the video or the White
    > > House visit.
    > >
    > > That’s interesting.

    a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA>We the People Stimulus Package

  189. 2009 July 4 3:23 pm
    [190]
    janzam permalink

  190. 2009 July 4 3:27 pm
    [191]
    conservativetony permalink

    Just advertised on Fox: Greta: Sarah Palin, an American woman.

    Uhh, think Greta’s a Palin supporter?

  191. 2009 July 4 3:32 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    CT –

    This is an existing show they may be polishing up and revising.

  192. 2009 July 4 3:47 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Why? Obama has at least three times I know of made the very claim that to fix the economy we need to reform health care. Nice try.

    I have been saying for quite sometime that Palin is our Obama. Thanks for agreeing with me Dr. Dog.

  193. 2009 July 4 3:48 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Love her or haye her, you have to admit that Sarah makes things more interesting.

    Kinda like Chekote.

  194. 2009 July 4 3:49 pm
    [195]
    chekote permalink

    Stop that bullshit

    No. You stop the bullshit that people don’t support her because of Trig. Nobody gives a shit that she had Trig. What bothers people is that she would DENY the same choice that she had about Trig to other women.

  195. 2009 July 4 3:51 pm
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    chekote permalink

    Of the potential standard bearers, whom do you like?

    Kasich.

  196. 2009 July 4 4:00 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Kasich has to win in Ohio. Based on what I’ve seem recently, it appdears to be a toss up. Kasich will probably improve as things get worse.

    In Ohio you have to watch out for voter fraud. Big ACORN state and a crooked Secretary of State. Cleveland, Akron, Canton, Toledo and Dayton are snake pits.

  197. 2009 July 4 4:04 pm
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    conservativetony permalink

    Hmm, If Chekote likes Kasich, then its time I start attacking him.

    I wonder if he’s ever had an affair? Checking………

  198. 2009 July 4 4:07 pm
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    brucefdb permalink

    Kasich? Ho ho ho….not a chance. Kasich’s Heartland show on Fox was makes Huckleberry’s gig seem almost interesting. No toughness either. But he is one of the more feminine seeming R’s. Probably why you like him, eh, Chipotle?

  199. 2009 July 4 4:08 pm
    [200]
    brucefdb permalink

    OK, strike the ‘was’.

  200. 2009 July 4 4:16 pm
    [201]
    drdog09 permalink

    Chek,

    Hmmm. Go back and read my observation. We maybe in concert but my remark rebuts your original comment.

  201. 2009 July 4 4:24 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    I agree on Kasich lacking charisma. I taped some Heartland shows and watch then whenever I can’t sleep. Politically I like him, but I don’t seem energizing a lot of people. He certainly isn’t dynamic. But, if the economy is bad enough ….

  202. 2009 July 4 4:55 pm
    [203]
    INC permalink

    From C4P:

    Statement from Gov. Palin’s Legal Counsel on Defamatory Allegations

    Long statement with this at the end of it:

    To the extent several websites, most notably liberal Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, are now claiming as “fact” that Governor Palin resigned because she is “under federal investigation” for embezzlement or other criminal wrongdoing, we will be exploring legal options this week to address such defamation. This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law. The Alaska Constitution protects the right of free speech, while simultaneously holding those “responsible for the abuse of that right.” Alaska Constitution Art. I, Sec. 5. http://ltgov.state.ak.us/constitution.php?section=1. These falsehoods abuse the right to free speech; continuing to publish these falsehoods of criminal activity is reckless, done without any regard for the truth, and is actionable.

  203. 2009 July 4 4:57 pm
    [204]
    INC permalink

    That was issued today in response to all of the immediate nastiness in reaction to her announcement of her resignation yesterday.

    Ready to rumble it looks like to me.

  204. 2009 July 4 4:58 pm
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    janzam permalink

    INC

    That quote you posted takes my breath away. There doesn’t seem any end in sight to the abuse towards the Palins. Vicious, is the word that comes to mind, just vicious.

  205. 2009 July 4 5:02 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Palin sure does hit a nerve with folks on the left!

  206. 2009 July 4 5:03 pm
    [207]
    INC permalink

    Jan, I saw that scandal mentioned yesterday. I’m glad she’s has an attorney who’s going to go after these people.

  207. 2009 July 4 5:05 pm
    [208]
    INC permalink

    AP (who can be pretty nasty himself) at Hot Air linked to The Brad Blog who had that nasty insinuation from Shannyn Moore.

  208. 2009 July 4 5:07 pm
    [209]
    justrand permalink

    it is time for her to fight in a court of law AND public opinion! take ’em down Sarah!!

  209. 2009 July 4 5:23 pm
    [210]
    conservativetony permalink

    Jan, you are right about the viciousness of the left.

    However, in 3 short weeks, the Palin’s will be private citizens again. I wonder how the attacks will play then?

  210. 2009 July 4 5:30 pm
    [211]
    INC permalink

    Tony,

    She’s going to go on offense!

  211. 2009 July 4 5:31 pm
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    janzam permalink

    So many commentaries popping up about Palin today. It is testimony as to the enormous national impact her moves stir, in that everyone wants to give their opinion as to why she resigned from office yesterday.

    Here is one from John Batchelor:

    She certainly does not need the GOP to do well in the congressional mid-terms in 2010; she does not need the party to improve its flabby polling on health care or trust; she does not even need the Republican Party to raise a voice to explain her positions on the burning controversies on Capitol Hill. Palin does not need to prove anything at all about wise government, because she appeals directly to the anti-authoritarian crowd that has been with us since Shay’s Rebellion in 1787. It is an accident of history, and of John McCain’s whimsy, that Sarah Palin caught Potomac Fever in September ‘08, and it will carry her either to the White House or to that place even rarer, where the Kingfisher dwells, called what-could’ve-been.

    How Palin’s resignation makes her the true frontrunner

  212. 2009 July 4 5:33 pm
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    justrand permalink

    Sarah Palin would not have been able to leave the State for ANY reason without the Left nipping at her heels until JANUARY 2011 when her replacement would have been sworn in.

    By JANUARY 2011 the 2012 Presidential sweepstakes will have been in full swing for SIX MONTHS

  213. 2009 July 4 5:35 pm
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    janzam permalink

    Tony

    What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger can be applied to Palin and the effect her detractors may have on her.

    If she survives she will only be a stronger force for the left and their MSM buddies to content with!

  214. 2009 July 4 5:36 pm
    [215]
    janzam permalink

    You’re right Justrand. And that was one very big reason (a plus) for her leaving at this juncture.

  215. 2009 July 4 5:38 pm
    [216]
    INC permalink

    Jan, from just that quote I think Batchelor may not realize that Sarah cares enough about the country to realize the mid-terms are vital to the nation and put that ahead of whether or not they’re important to her. I’d guess he doesn’t understand her.

    Justrand, you’re right. Those silly ethics suits were the death of a thousand cuts. She’s sees the game and she’s playing point.

    Rush’s take on this should be interesting. I wonder if he’ll give a nod to her “strategery”.

  216. 2009 July 4 5:41 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    INC – Rush is on vacation next week. Rush and Mark Levin usually are on the same page, so his comments the other night probably reflect what Rush might think.

    Can not wait for him to come back. As Rush says, it always seems to get interesting when he goes away.

  217. 2009 July 4 5:48 pm
    [218]
    justrand permalink

    This is JM now 🙂

    Just wanted to say WELCOME BACK, INC! We missed you! Hope all is well.

  218. 2009 July 4 5:50 pm
    [219]
    INC permalink

    Hey, Mary, thank you.

  219. 2009 July 4 5:51 pm
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    justrand permalink

    INC, excellent point regarding the critical 2010 mid-term elections. Palin would have been TOTALLY sidelined for those…and is now free to help out!

    God bless her, she will have the support of millions of Americans…including me! 🙂

  220. 2009 July 4 5:52 pm
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    INC permalink

    gnqanq, didn’t know that he’d be gone–I’ve heard him say that before! His guest hosts won’t have to worry about filling in the time!

  221. 2009 July 4 7:18 pm
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    conservativetony permalink

    http://comments.americanthinker.com/read/42323/356682.html

    Stellar Palin comments at American Thinker. Thanks to HHR for pointing it out.

  222. 2009 July 4 7:55 pm
    [223]
    INC permalink

    Thanks, Tony. They were good comments.

    C4P has a 4th of July statement from Sarah. This is how she closes it:

    I shared with you yesterday my heartfelt and candid reasons for this change; I’ve never thought I needed a title before one’s name to forge progress in America. I am now looking ahead and how we can advance this country together with our values of less government intervention, greater energy independence, stronger national security, and much-needed fiscal restraint. I hope you will join me. Now is the time to rebuild and help our nation achieve greatness!

    God bless you! And I look forward to making a difference – with you!

    Sarah

  223. 2009 July 4 8:13 pm
    [224]
    bc3b permalink

    Leaders like Sarah Palin come along once a generation.

  224. 2009 July 4 8:21 pm
    [225]
    janzam permalink

    INC

    Thanks for sharing Palin’s Independence Day. It was well stated.

  225. 2009 July 4 8:42 pm
    [226]
    INC permalink

    You’re welcome. One last (probably) piece of news I found. I saw this on one website, but wasn’t sure it was authentic. Then a commenter at HHR linked to the Twitter of San Bernardino County Federation of Republican Women:

    Sarah Palin will be the guest speaker at the Simi Valley RWF 50th Anniversary celebration on August 8.

    I’ve read that it’s going to be held at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Museum.

    Now how’s that for some interesting news???????

    Stay ready for her opening salvo!!!!!!!

    I remember Reagan’s 1984 slogan: “President Reagan Bringing America Back”. Well, I hope Sarah’s watchword for the next few years is “Sarah Palin: Leading the Charge to Take America Back”.

  226. 2009 July 4 9:00 pm
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    janzam permalink

    I would love to go to that! I wonder if you have to get tickets? Hmmm…thanks again, INC, for an interesting “heads up.”

    My husband and I have long talked about visiting RR”s Presidential Library. Maybe this would be the time to make a trip over there.

  227. 2009 July 4 9:13 pm
    [228]
    INC permalink

    Jan, more info here.

  228. 2009 July 4 9:27 pm
    [229]
    janzam permalink

    Girl, where do you come up with all the answers! Once again, Thanks!

  229. 2009 July 4 10:37 pm
    [230]
    chekote permalink

    Leaders like Sarah Palin come along once a generation.

    You mean quitters like Sarah Palin.

  230. 2009 July 5 5:25 am
    [231]

    “By JANUARY 2011 the 2012 Presidential sweepstakes will have been in full swing for SIX MONTHS”
    —-
    Not to be picky but a JR are you suggesting the sweepstakes is begining in force in the summer of 2010? sure your not thinking summer of 2011?

    You mean quitters like Sarah Palin.

    Your getting so predictable that it’s not even amusing anymore.

  231. 2009 July 5 11:08 am
    [232]
    INC permalink

    Hey, Jan, my husband says I have the gift of “finding”–whether it’s items, books, whatever.

    🙂

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