A Clear Palin Victory

2009 August 16
by MFG

Now that the dust has settled it is clear to all but the most deranged that Palin has won the “Death Panel” battle with Captain Bullshit and has increased the odds of the whole plan going down in flames

Well done Sarah Palin!

From the WallStreetJournal

114 Responses leave one →
  1. 2009 August 16 11:18 am
    [1]
    Brandon permalink

    Specter is tone-deaf:

    “I think we have to bear in mind that, although those people need to be heard and have a right to be heard, that they’re not really representative of America, in my opinion,” Specter told ABC News’s “This Week.”

  2. 2009 August 16 11:23 am
    [2]
    JustMary permalink

    Conversely, Sphincter is a wonderful representative of the people. 🙄

  3. 2009 August 16 11:27 am
    [3]
    INC permalink

    Specter must not be reading the polls, either!

  4. 2009 August 16 11:28 am
    [4]
    drdog09 permalink

    Spectre is an ass of course. But give him a smidgen of credit. He did stand there and take it. Consistently. Unlike some of the others in his ‘adopted’ party who just ducked it totally, hid behind purple shirts, or phoned it in.

    That I find it ironic that he will lose reelection regardless due to his party switch, is poetic justice beyond belief.

  5. 2009 August 16 11:28 am
    [5]
    drdog09 permalink

    INC

    Specter must not be reading the polls, either!

    He can read? I thought he predated Gutenberg.

  6. 2009 August 16 11:32 am
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    INC permalink

    That I find it ironic that he will lose reelection regardless due to his party switch, is poetic justice beyond belief.!

  7. 2009 August 16 11:37 am
    [7]
    INC permalink

    As for Sarah Palin, in a week she upended the Dems. Her first facebook post with “Death Panels” in it was short and the phrase summed things up and caught fire.

    Having seized the discussion and directed it, her next two were longer. I think the second one she mentioned Obama’s response to her first. The last especially (going from memory) she went into more detailed discussion of the bill, indicating she can read and talk policy!

    This is precisely why the Dems have continued to go after her all these months. I think they’ve instinctively recognized her as nemesis.

  8. 2009 August 16 11:39 am
    [8]
    justrand permalink

    drdog: “He [Sphinter] did stand there and take it.”

    All the while no doubt thinking: “Is it ‘I’ after ‘E’ except after ‘C’, or ‘I’ before ‘C’ except during ‘E’…or…???

  9. 2009 August 16 12:09 pm
    [9]
    bc3b permalink

    Specter is trailing Toomey by double-digits.

    This is the time for the GOP to capitalize. Unfortunately, the party resembles two characters from the Wizard of Oz – the Cowardly Lion and the Scarecrow (no brian).

  10. 2009 August 16 12:12 pm
    [10]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    From the “Untouchables” clip:

    “well, the Lord hates a coward.”

    This episode shows you a few things:

    1 The truth will win if you are not afraid to speak it often and not back down
    2 There is a thirst for leadership, and a love of liberty, still in this country despite all that’s happened.
    3 The GOP with 90% worthless and needs to be replaced.

    Oh, and one more thing: It proves that Sarah Palin is totally unqualified to hold any sort of national office in this country.

  11. 2009 August 16 12:24 pm
    [11]
    mpthompson permalink

    Occasionally we mention the UKs National Health Service (NHS) such as the comments made the other day by Investors Business Daily about Stephen Hawking and whether NHS was a benefit to him. I came across the following article which shows the health care debate in this country is raising some eyebrows across the pond. A good read.

    I deeply resent the Americans sneering at our health service – but perhaps that’s because the truth hurts

  12. 2009 August 16 12:37 pm
    [12]
    INC permalink

    Mike, the cancer stats are telling and the fact that he says an increasing number take out private health insurance.

  13. 2009 August 16 12:37 pm
    [13]
    INC permalink

    On the GOP, if any of you haven’t read the post by Doctor Zero that RWY mentioned in another thread, it is excellent:

    What We Want From The Republicans

  14. 2009 August 16 12:50 pm
    [14]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    I enjoy reading coldwarrior’s posts over there. He is a take no prisoners type, and not afraid to take a long clear look at the left in all it’s nihilist vacuity, and does not worry about being polite.

    The GOP capitulationists or the “Frum brigade” are worrying about their makeup in the midst of an existential fight.

    At best that makes them worthless, and a less kind view makes them worse.

  15. 2009 August 16 12:58 pm
    [15]
    bc3b permalink

    “It proves that Sarah Palin is totally unqualified to hold any sort of national office in this country.”

    No need to worry about Sarah Palin any more. Her 15 minutes are up. Besides, she never picked up much of a following any way. Once Palin resigned as governor, she became a nobody.

    As one astute BJG poster put it, “She’s just in it for the money.” Sarah’s probably basking on her yacht in the Mediterranean and going from cocktail party to cocktail party, never to be heard from again.

  16. 2009 August 16 12:58 pm
    [16]
    INC permalink

    coldwarrior is terrific. He was with the CIA under Reagan. This is his post discussing his background.

    He hasn’t done many posts recently, but he is in the comments and sums things up and goes right to the target.

  17. 2009 August 16 12:59 pm
    [17]
    bc3b permalink

    Yahoo –

    That was a great thread on Frum last night. Sorry I wasn’t able to participate.

  18. 2009 August 16 1:01 pm
    [18]
    INC permalink

    This in the coldwarrior Greenroom archive.

    He’s headed to the 9/12 march in D.C. It’s going to be interesting to get reports from that.

  19. 2009 August 16 1:05 pm
    [19]
    rightwingyaho permalink

    Well, I’ll try not to hold a grudge about it. It’s not like it was poetry night or anything.
    :, (

  20. 2009 August 16 1:09 pm
    [20]
    justrand permalink

    rwy…Justmary has been scheduled for public flogging for her “lack of poetic insight & judgement“.

    Only recently declared to be a “crime” (in fact we had to wait for the ink to dry on the ordinance before we could sentence her!)

    She has two children, and thus sacrificing her to the Fire Gods as a virgin was clearly out of the question!

  21. 2009 August 16 1:11 pm
    [21]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    No, nothing like that. I’m happy in my Dan Marino status….

  22. 2009 August 16 1:17 pm
    [22]
    INC permalink

    RWY, just for you!


  23. 2009 August 16 1:27 pm
    [23]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    aw.

  24. 2009 August 16 1:29 pm
    [24]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    She has two children, and thus sacrificing her to the Fire Gods as a virgin was clearly out of the question!

    Hmm, that’s a little more specificity than was really umm, needed. 😀

  25. 2009 August 16 1:29 pm
    [25]
    brucefdb permalink

    RWY….perhaps golf is a better analogy….you’re like Greg Norman in the majors, someone always chips in at the last second to snatch victory away.

    I do think you should win more often…..after all you have more than 50% of the entries. 😉

  26. 2009 August 16 1:30 pm
    [26]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Maybe I just try too hard… wahhh!

  27. 2009 August 16 1:39 pm
    [27]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

  28. 2009 August 16 1:48 pm
    [28]
    justrand permalink

    great cartoon, rwy…so (sadly) spot on!

  29. 2009 August 16 2:46 pm
    [29]
    bc3b permalink

    From Pollster.com: an average of polls has zero at 50.5% approval. Interesting studying differences in various polls and trends. Also lets you see results by party.

    http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama.php

  30. 2009 August 16 2:51 pm
    [30]
    bc3b permalink

    It is a great cartoon Yahoo. To paraphrase a recent Republican candidate’s acceptance speech, “There’s only one Republican who’s really fighting for you.” Well, there’s also Michele Bachmann.

  31. 2009 August 16 3:15 pm
    [31]
    drdog09 permalink

    justrand

    drdog: “He [Sphinter] did stand there and take it.”

    All the while no doubt thinking: “Is it ‘I’ after ‘E’ except after ‘C’, or ‘I’ before ‘C’ except during ‘E’…or…???“

    Very true and probably too much credit considering a tree could stand there and take it too. And he can spell too? Wow.

    But the question is, do you prefer a Dim a@# h@#$ who is there to yell at or a Dim a@# h@#$ who never shows?

  32. 2009 August 16 3:20 pm
    [32]
    drdog09 permalink

    “No need to worry about Sarah Palin any more. Her 15 minutes are up. Besides, she never picked up much of a following any way. Once Palin resigned as governor, she became a nobody.”

    Yeah, and that moose rendering momma made an entire House committee blink with two facebook entries. She is unqualified for government service, but then the Presidency in the hands of the right person isn’t government service as much as it is a siren call for rank and file Americans to take a stand.

  33. 2009 August 16 3:28 pm
    [33]
    justrand permalink

    there was a cartoon (I’ll try to link to it) that showed Obama explaining that the provision that didn’t exist regarding Death Panels would now be removed from the legislation! Priceless!

    And yup, an ordinary citizen, from a backwater State using only a Facebook entry did all that! Also, priceless! (and a LOT of Townhall anger, to be sure!!)

  34. 2009 August 16 3:30 pm
    [34]
    bc3b permalink

    Here’s Tammy Bruce on Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich and the GOP (about 20 minutes).

    http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/08/tammy-bruce-obamas-agenda-being-wrecked.html

    Tammy’s advice in a nutshell:
    1) Stay true to who you are; remain an outsider
    2) Completely ignore Newt Gingrich’s advice
    3) Get advisers who are outside the Beltway and NYC. I would be surprised if she has not already done this. Thomas Sowell has been a very vocal Palin supporter. I would be surprised if Sowell and Palin are not already in contact. After all, she can only make so many caribou bergers and moose-meat pies a day. I see Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin supporting her big time.

  35. 2009 August 16 4:13 pm
    [35]
    drdog09 permalink

    After all, she can only make so many caribou bergers and moose-meat pies a day. I see Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin supporting her big time.

    I dunno…. Her and her husband ran a cannery for a while. Its a miracle to see a 50ton load of pollock pass by you in all those little 6oz cans…..

  36. 2009 August 16 4:40 pm
    [36]
    JustMary permalink

    Important announcement!

    Next poetry night’s theme hasn’t been chosen yet, but we have come up with a rule for it. Each poem must contain the words “right” “wing” or “yahoo” or be written by rightwingyahoo to be considered for a prize.

    Thank you for your attention to this important matter.

  37. 2009 August 16 4:46 pm
    [37]
    INC permalink

    That should be very interesting!

  38. 2009 August 16 4:58 pm
    [38]
    MFG permalink

    Did not always think he was right
    With his words that would wing in with such might
    But over time I have become
    Fond of this yahoo because
    He loves our fair land and he’ll fight!

  39. 2009 August 16 4:59 pm
    [39]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Damn straight…..

  40. 2009 August 16 4:59 pm
    [40]
    MFG permalink

    Is it like scrabble with a triple word score…???

  41. 2009 August 16 4:59 pm
    [41]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    No, In fact I’ll have to retire from poetry…..

  42. 2009 August 16 5:01 pm
    [42]
    MFG permalink

    Amnesty, Cao and McCain
    The yahoo would rightly disdain
    From his perch on the right
    He didst protest and fight
    At the left which is now quite insane

  43. 2009 August 16 5:03 pm
    [43]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Each poem must contain the words “right” “wing” or “yahoo” or be written by rightwingyahoo to be considered for a prize.

    Damn straight you people….

  44. 2009 August 16 5:05 pm
    [44]
    MFG permalink

    To me the ammo do bring
    Said the yahoo who’s from the right wing
    I see commies galore
    And a few RINO w****s
    When I shoot ’em I know they will sing

  45. 2009 August 16 5:06 pm
    [45]
    MFG permalink

    JM

    I humbly suggest all poems should have to contain all three words

  46. 2009 August 16 5:06 pm
    [46]
    bc3b permalink

    How about inviting a special guest?

    CH?KOT?

  47. 2009 August 16 5:07 pm
    [47]
    JustMary permalink

    You people? Is that code for white? 👿

  48. 2009 August 16 5:07 pm
    [48]
    INC permalink

    Is it like scrabble with a triple word score…???

    😀

  49. 2009 August 16 5:08 pm
    [49]
    JustMary permalink

    All 3 words, eh?

  50. 2009 August 16 5:08 pm
    [50]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Please, let’s not bring the troll back….

  51. 2009 August 16 5:08 pm
    [51]
    MFG permalink

    JM

    Clearly he’s a bigoted racist homophobe who doesn’t understand that unless we embrace people who have sex with armadillos the REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL NEVER WIN ANOTHER ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  52. 2009 August 16 5:09 pm
    [52]
    JustMary permalink

    What rhymes with sissy girl?

  53. 2009 August 16 5:09 pm
    [53]
    MFG permalink

    Does anyone play scrabble anymore…???

    I guess I’m becoming an old fossil…

  54. 2009 August 16 5:10 pm
    [54]
    JustMary permalink

    That sounds painful, MFG.

  55. 2009 August 16 5:11 pm
    [55]
    MFG permalink

    Ever play bilingual scrabble?

    Spanish-English

    I never win because the only Spanish words I know are the obscenities and they’re not allowed

    Crud…

  56. 2009 August 16 5:11 pm
    [56]
    INC permalink

    Our family plays scrabble. We look for those triple word scores!

  57. 2009 August 16 5:12 pm
    [57]
    JustMary permalink

    Those on the right are my kind of people
    Those on the left are losers and sheeple
    Not to sound all yahoo
    But I like ammo too
    Shoot….I still have to rhyme something with wing

    *Tis a dry night*

  58. 2009 August 16 5:12 pm
    [58]
    MFG permalink

    We must embrace the far left agenda in order to get young people to vote for us

    You know, the people who don’t vote…

  59. 2009 August 16 5:13 pm
    [59]
    MFG permalink

    JM

    “Wing” is the hard work to get into the stanza…

  60. 2009 August 16 5:16 pm
    [60]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    We could have Chekote impersonation night…..

    “I’m 5′-3′ and I had sex when I was 17. God will take care of everything so do whatever you want. People hump like animals all the time, and the sooner the GOP gets over it, the sooner they’ll win.

    I have some links:

    AndrewSullivan.com
    NewMajority.com
    Slate.com
    Mudflats.kos.org
    TNR.com

    I am the real conservative here, screw all of you and the Catholic church too.

  61. 2009 August 16 5:16 pm
    [61]
    justrand permalink

    each poem shouldn’t have to include ALL three…just one of the three!!!

  62. 2009 August 16 5:17 pm
    [62]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Oh, I forgot:

    Babies are not human so kill them in the most brutal possible way, then go home and celebrate your freedom.

  63. 2009 August 16 5:18 pm
    [63]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    I’m picking up on your sarcasm, people……

  64. 2009 August 16 5:19 pm
    [64]
    justrand permalink

    I aim center mass…I don’t shoot to wing
    If they deserve to be shot I won’t feel a thing
    I don’t want it this way
    But I do have to say
    We on the Right are no longer dozing!

  65. 2009 August 16 5:20 pm
    [65]
    JustMary permalink

    I’m picking up on your sarcasm, people……

    Nothing gets by you, dear.

  66. 2009 August 16 5:21 pm
    [66]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Oh yes I also forgot this:

    Sarah Palin is a moron who uses her kids for political props, and whatever she says is stupid, and she is such an idiot she doesn’t realize that the culture of death does not exist except in the Palestinian refugee areas.

    That’s how stupid she is. So, she is clearly not qualified to hold national office.

  67. 2009 August 16 5:21 pm
    [67]
    blakeney permalink

    Waiting for the opportune hour till she sprang alive
    Then with claws of fire, Sarah hit Obama like a falcon in the dive

  68. 2009 August 16 5:21 pm
    [68]
    justrand permalink

    rwy, we love ya…truly!

    One of my favorite sayings:

    “Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes!
    That way, if they don’t like what you have to say…
    you’re a mile away and they’re barefoot!”

    Cheers!

  69. 2009 August 16 5:22 pm
    [69]
    JustMary permalink

    You forgot Yahoo, Dad. Pfft!

  70. 2009 August 16 5:22 pm
    [70]
    JustMary permalink

    You’re a mile away, and you have their shoes! 😆

  71. 2009 August 16 5:23 pm
    [71]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Nothing gets by you, dear.

    aw.

  72. 2009 August 16 5:25 pm
    [72]
    JustMary permalink

    Rightwingyahoo he’s our man
    If he can’t get 1st place in poetry
    Any one of our other members can!

  73. 2009 August 16 5:26 pm
    [74]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    heh, that’s right, last call for anyone who wants to beat yahoo…

  74. 2009 August 16 5:27 pm
    [75]
    JustMary permalink

    I lied when I said this was a dry night…..heh

  75. 2009 August 16 5:27 pm
    [76]
    MFG permalink

    Five yard penalty

    Each word must be in a separate line

    1st and 15 now, JM

  76. 2009 August 16 5:28 pm
    [77]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Just standin’ on this metal plate, smokin’ my stogie, thinking about the lovely lady that just walked by ….

    ahhhhhhhhh! Oh God I’m 30 feet under the street, ahhhhh!

  77. 2009 August 16 5:29 pm
    [78]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Hey MFG, what do you land in if you fall thru the sidewalk in NO?

  78. 2009 August 16 5:29 pm
    [79]
    MFG permalink

    Other important sites:

    ExecuteYourFamily.org
    WhoNeedsGrandma.com
    GarroteYourProgeny.net

    Must read sites!

  79. 2009 August 16 5:30 pm
    [80]
    bc3b permalink

    Good one Blakney.

  80. 2009 August 16 5:32 pm
    [81]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Wastewater is collected and pumped into treatment plants, as I’d expect…..

    Hmm, buddy told me they just leave it under the streets. Sounded like BS, and I guess it was…….

  81. 2009 August 16 5:33 pm
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    MFG permalink

    A rat filled sewer, I suppose…

  82. 2009 August 16 5:34 pm
    [83]
    MFG permalink

    But I shouldn’t insult the City Council like that, shame on me…

  83. 2009 August 16 5:34 pm
    [84]
    drdog09 permalink

    There once was a Yahoo who swung to the right.
    On an wing and a prayer he bore thru the night.
    At the end of his journey he spotted his prey,
    Lifting his weapon he took his bead, and with a sigh and squeeze it was no more…

  84. 2009 August 16 5:34 pm
    [85]
    bc3b permalink

    MFG –

    Smile. The ‘Aints are just a few weeks from opening the NFL season 1-0.

  85. 2009 August 16 5:35 pm
    [86]
    MFG permalink

    I dunno

    I went to the Bengals game and we stunk up the joint

    Are the Lions improved at all…???

  86. 2009 August 16 5:37 pm
    [87]
    MFG permalink

    DD

    Very good…!!!

  87. 2009 August 16 5:37 pm
    [88]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    well, you never know with these old cities. Back 100 years ago, nobody knew what to do with the shit, so they usually buried it, or piped it into a local water body.

    heh.

    You want to know what the top 3 standard of living enhancements in the last 100 years have been?

    1 electricity
    2 liftstations (wastewater pumping stations) and wastewater treatment plants.
    3. air conditioning…..

    100 years ago, you had to go to sleep when it got dark, (most places)
    poop in a hole in your back yard (this is unbelievably disgusting and totally unacceptable)
    And sit on the porch or under a tree and fan yourself for 4 months a year when it got hot.

    And people say the earth is polluted now. bah.

  88. 2009 August 16 5:40 pm
    [89]
    MFG permalink

    They built the Superdome over old abandoned cemeteries from the 1800’s (the city is very very old founded 1718) they were horrified to dig up old bones when they started the excavation work

    Had to move and re bury everyone

  89. 2009 August 16 5:40 pm
    [90]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    No wonder they’d hang you for looking sideways at people back then. Everyone was hot, wide awake and had a bad smell in their nose…..

  90. 2009 August 16 5:42 pm
    [91]
    MFG permalink

    How did anyone ever live here without AC???

    I see these pictures from the 1800’s people in WOOL suits in New Orleans summers…

  91. 2009 August 16 5:43 pm
    [92]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    The problem with burying shit is there exists this substance known as “groundwater”…… which more often than not supplies local drinking water, or at least back then it did…..

  92. 2009 August 16 5:44 pm
    [93]
    MFG permalink

    You hit the water table only a few feet down here

    Plant a tree in your yard and the hole fills with water…

  93. 2009 August 16 5:52 pm
    [94]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    In many places in FL, during the wet season it’s within 6 inches of the ground surface…

  94. 2009 August 16 5:54 pm
    [95]
    drdog09 permalink

    rightwingyahoo

    well, you never know with these old cities.

    Old cities? Speak for yourself dude.

    My parents first AC home was circa 1965/66 as I recall. Before that all we had were ceiling mounted whole house exhaust fans. In Florida. You wanted AC you went to a movie theatre. Mom put a army blanket between the bed and top sheet to absorb the sweat.

    Waste treatment? Septic tank baby. Have a hurricane come thru and the septic would flood the leech field in the back yard. The whole neighborhood smelled like a Chicago cattle lot for a week till the ground dried out.

    Then of course smart folks always painted their houses before the start of hurricane season. It was fun to walk over to someone’s home who did not and see 2″ of water everywhere. The hurricane would literally drive the rain THRU the concrete block and it would weep thru the drywall.

  95. 2009 August 16 5:54 pm
    [96]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Most people call that a swamp….

  96. 2009 August 16 5:57 pm
    [97]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    A little historical perspective is always useful. Apparently the French were the first -to use an underground septic tank system, back in the 1870’s. By the mid 1880’s, two chamber, automatic siphoning septic tank systems, similar in concept to those used today, were being installed in the United States. Even now, a century plus later, septic tank systems represent a major household wastewater treatment option. Fully 1/4 to 1/3 of the homes in the US utilize such a system.

  97. 2009 August 16 6:01 pm
    [98]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    A septic tank system includes an underground tank and leach field A well designed and maintained concrete, fiberglass or plastic tank should last about 50 years. Because of corrosion problems, steel tanks may only last a decade or less. Most typical is a two compartment septic tank. The size of the tank will vary depending upon local codes, but a typical tank for a family of four would have a liquid capacity of 1,500 gallons. On the left is the input pipe from the dwelling, on the far right is the output pipe to the leach field. The tank itself is water tight and divided into two semi-compartments. This division allows for improved digestion of the waste materials. When the waste flows into the tank, the heavy solids (primarily feces) sink to -the bottom to form a layer of ‘sludge’. Lighter materials (grease, fats, small food particles ‘ etc.) float on the surface forming a layer of “scum’. Between these two layers is a soup of suspended materials and water soluble chemicals (urea from urine and many household chemicals). The division into two chambers increases the efficiency of the system at removing suspended solids. The second compartment receives its “load”, or liquid mixture, already substantially clarified (much of the solid material has settled out of the liquid). There is little turbulence in the second chamber either, because the load enters more slowly. Both of these factors allow settling of finer suspended solids than can occur in the first chamber where incoming material acts to churn up the chamber contents.

    HOW IS THE LOAD DECOMPOSED?

    The process of digestion in the tank is carried out primarily by microbes excreted from our, gastrointestinal tracts (E. coli, for instance). Digestion is an anaerobic process, meaning -that oxygen is not required. Gases (hydrogen sulfide and methane) are produced and must be vented. Basically the same -thing that happens in a septic tank also occurs in our guts and in centralized waste water treatment plants, however a properly operating septic system probably is the most efficient of the three. In the septic system, the gases help to stir the sludge, scum and liquid layers which promotes further digestion of the solids. A properly functioning tank will convert the bulk of solids into liquid waste through the processes of digestion and hence, decomposition.

    PROBLEMS LEADING TO CONTAMINATION

    A septic system is well suited to breakdown human excrement, and a well designed, properly used and maintained system is one of the best choices for waste disposal in certain areas of the country. However, there are many potential problems with septic tanks. One of which is that people put a lot more than human waste down their drains. Even simple food items such as too much grease, cooking oil or fat may greatly reduce the efficiency of the system. Household cleaners, paints and other toxics are also toxic to the bacteria which make the system operate properly. Excesses of these chemicals may cause a severe disruption in the system.

    Putting an excess load on the system when more people are in the house (flushing the toilet, taking showers and otherwise running more water into the system) then the system is designed for can result in materials moving through the system too quickly to be decomposed and contamination problems may result.

    There are many considerations to be made before installing a septic tank system. In order- for it to function properly, it is important for the surrounding soil to have certain characteristics, the most important of which has to do with permeability. The water carrying capacity of the soil must be measured before a system can be approved for building and must be known before a proper system can be designed. Usually a percolation test is performed to determine the adequacy of the soil to support a septic system.

    Another critical design consideration has to do with the height of the water table. The leach field must have a certain separation from the water table to prevent contamination from occurring. Likewise layers of impermeable “soil’ must be a certain depth below the leach field.

    There is an engineering modification known as the Wisconsin mound system which may allow the use of septic tank systems in areas previously considered to be unsuitable due to slowly permeable soils (percolation rates slower than 60 minutes per inch), thin soils over permeable bedrock, and permanent or periodically high groundwater tables. Basically the only differences are the addition of a pumping station to pump the tank effluent up to a leach field constructed in a mound on top of the natural soil surface. This system is definitely much more expensive than a traditional septic tank system, but offers a viable solution in regions where the soil characteristics preclude the use of a traditional system.

    Heh. I did not realize septic tanks went back before the 1900s, I thought they were ww2-era inventions……

  98. 2009 August 16 6:02 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    I see these pictures from the 1800’s people in WOOL suits in New Orleans summers… –MFG

    Little Ice Age. From about late 1300’s to about 1850 the temps were much cooler than they are today.

  99. 2009 August 16 6:05 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    I’ve dragged this thread into the sh*t… sorry… 😀

  100. 2009 August 16 6:06 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    The Lions might be a little better at QB. They changed their uniforms slightly – stylized numbers and the symbol and stripes on the helmet are a little different (a blue stripe with a thinner black stripe on either side). I am going to the last exhibition game (free tickets from a printer).

    NFL pre-season really doesn’t mean anything. The Lions went 4-0 in pre-season and 0-16 during the regular season. But, who knows.

    Unlike the WWE and NBA, at least the NFL is on the level. Don’t tell Yahoo that NBA games are fixed. He’ll cry.

    Speaking of the WWE. Linda (Mrs. Vince) McMahon is considering seeking the GOP Senate nomination in Connecticut. Could be interesting. Hopefully she’s not a RINO. I mean how could Triple H’s mother-in-law be a RINO?

    Detroit is older than New Orleans (founded in 1701).

  101. 2009 August 16 6:07 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    RWY, that’s no problem. My old man used to say there is needs then there are NEEDS. You might like to have the President drop by for a chat. But when your waste water system is on the fritz you LOVE your plumber.

  102. 2009 August 16 6:23 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    This in from Columbia MO —

    Sheriff White argued that armed civilians on campus have the potential to end the threat quickly. And he stunned the room with this assertion.

    “In actual shootings, citizens do far better than law enforcement on hit potential,” said White. “They hit their targets and they don’t hit other people. I wish I could say the same for cops. We train more, they do better.”

    Most advocates for removing the prohibition for concealed weapons on college campuses expected the issue to be debated during next year’s legislative session.

    link.

    Think about that for a moment. A Sheriff is admitting that at least his experience says law enforcement is a bad shot?! Damn. Disarm the fr@#$%ers and give everyone in town a gun and a CCW permit!

    Fact you know that would be an interesting experiment. You get rid of most of the police. You then turn around and deputize the towns adult population. Put them thru CCW training and encourge them to carry all the time.

  103. 2009 August 16 6:26 pm
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    mpthompson permalink

    100 years ago, you had to go to sleep when it got dark, (most places)
    poop in a hole in your back yard (this is unbelievably disgusting and totally unacceptable)
    And sit on the porch or under a tree and fan yourself for 4 months a year when it got hot.

    Hey, sounds like California in 5 years from now.

  104. 2009 August 16 6:47 pm
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    justrand permalink

    mpt: “Hey, sounds like California in 5 years from now”

    yeah, but it sounds like Michigan NOW!

  105. 2009 August 16 6:53 pm
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    justrand permalink

    drdog, this from New York:

    Harlem Man, 72, Shoots, Kills 2 Would-Be Robbers
    Elderly Shop Owner Warned The Armed Men That Something Bad Would Happen — And Then It Did

    This man is already being demonized in New York, even though he saved the lives of everyone in his store. They were pistol-whipping one of his people when he fired!! Note the reporters put his AGE in the headline.

    Two of the other would-be robbers are still in hospital…and the local street gangs have vowed to retaliate against this man. Oh, and the issue of RACE has already been raised!!

    That said…he’s alive, and the bad guys aren’t. A good outcome!

  106. 2009 August 16 7:02 pm
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    JustMary permalink

    If they don’t already know about it, someone should forward that story on to the NRA.

  107. 2009 August 16 7:47 pm
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    justrand permalink

    the NRA must already have the story. The “beloved” A/P did a total hit-job on the man…and damn near delcared the dead and dying thugs Saints! They described how one of the wounded thugs ran towards a church…and collapsed on its steps (sniff sniff).

    And they’re the ones who first put the man’s AGE in the headline. Obvisouly want to show the man to too OLD to have a gun. At the end of their story they grudgingly admitted these thugs all had huge rap sheets, and WERE in fact gettting ready to kill everyone in the store!

  108. 2009 August 16 7:51 pm
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    JustMary permalink

    Gaah! This kind of thing makes me so mad!

  109. 2009 August 16 8:42 pm
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    brucefdb permalink

    Good news for the left! Tropical storm Claudette threatens the Fla panhandle. Gee, three months into the horrors of hurricane season spawned by evil carbon dioxide induced warming we already have our third named storm!

  110. 2009 August 16 8:45 pm
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    justrand permalink

    brucefdb, quick, get Debbie Stabenow into an airplane so she can feel global warming!

    and uh, LEAVE HER THERE!

  111. 2009 August 16 8:50 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Hmmm. Claudette is a flash in the pan. Peak might be 50mph. Anna is probably the one to watch. Has a possible track along the Cuban coast then clear sailing all the way to Mobile. Open ocean to pick up energy all the way there.

    Put Debbie in a hurricane tracking plane. Then dump her out the back….

  112. 2009 August 16 9:57 pm
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    mpthompson permalink

    Put Debbie in a hurricane tracking plane. Then dump her out the back….

    Hmm, the definitive test to determine if hot air does indeed strengthen or weaken a hurricane.

  113. 2009 August 17 12:20 am
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    aureliusx permalink

    death panels (independent groups) and grandmothers with rationed end of life care were both brought up by Obama. explicitly. MSM has yet to acknowledge this.

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