Graham Pledges to Work with Dems on Immigration Reform
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is working behind the scenes to help Democrats craft a new version of former President Bush’s immigration reform bill. Graham also supported the Bush/Kennedy/McCain bill back in 2007. As The Wall Street Journal reports:
Wes Hickman, a spokesman for Mr. Graham, said in a statement that “Senator Graham is ready and willing to play a key role in immigration reform. He intends to work with many of his colleagues on both sides of the aisle.”The new bill will most likely be introduced in September by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), and Graham has been working with his colleague in search of other Republican votes. President Obama had pledged to tackle immigration reform in his first year of office, but on Friday he issued a statement saying he hoped Congress would pass legislation early in 2010.
With RINOs, who needs Democrats? Why do we need RINOs again? Oh yes, so Republicans don’t get lonesome when they caucus.
Hat Tip: Politics Today, The Wall Street Journal
Lindsey with his new bestest buddy.
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Right. Like the voters will have run out of ire and fire.
What’s with these people?
A blast from the past; Rasmussen, June 8, 2007:
Why the Senate Immigration Bill Failed
I doubt anyone will have changed their mind on this!
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Break him too..
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Think of the impact so-caqlloed Comprehensive Immigration Reform will have on ObamaCare with “chain migration.”
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BC, I would ask the question do you even need chain migration? I don’t remember anything in the HR bill that limits paying for public option service at the waters edge.
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bc, I think Obamacare already extends to illegals. I recall that an offered Republican amendment to the House bill that would have specifically excluded illegals was voted down by the Dems. So although the amnesty bill is horrendous in many ways, I don’t know if it would make Hellcare much worse than it already is.
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I’ve got some feathers. Anyone have some tar handy?
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My wife pointed out to me that Ma Clinton is trying her best to balloon up and become almost as ugly as Mad Albright.
WWhat do you think? (I know, tacky of my wife and then for me to bring it up off topic)
Who gets the next Dance
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I’ve got the tar.
But screw that though, who’s got the nooses?
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This rat bastard was sent back to the Senate by the voters of South Carolina, who may see their state turn blue if it passes.
There was a perfectly good alternative to this America hater, but he was ignored by the voters.
Eat it, SC.
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Knight, isn’t that RWY’s line?
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Rope and pitchforks used to be Apollyon’s specialty. Whatever happened to him?
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This thread is starting look fishy. Email sent.
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I think SC had an open primary, so it’s quite possible SC dems threw the election to Senator Lucy. Research required.
Half of what’s left of the R party supports taking this wrecking ball to our economy, and our nation.
Of the R presidential candidates, only 2 of 7 opposed amnesty: Hunter and Fred.
in favor of open borders, amnesty, and permanent Democrat majorities:
McCain
Guiliani
Huckabee
Romney (his plan had an over and back provision, but it was a guarantee of readmission)
It took Ronald Reagan 15 years to convince the voters that the R party gave a single solitary damn about working-class Americans, and 2 terms of Bush to wipe it out for good.
As long as people like Graham are in the Senate, this country will not be safe.
Curses, curses.
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mpthompson
This thread is starting look fishy. Email sent.
I am the MOB. Emailers beware!
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Rope and pitchforks used to be Apollyon’s specialty. Whatever happened to him?
You’ve got me grinning is spite of myself.
He used terms like “leftist hermaphrodite” to describe people like Lucy.
But he quit Poli when the crew over there condemned the Russian invasion of Georgia.
He was a Russian Jew, and you were better off with him cursing Israel than Russia. You could not talk to him about Russia.
I miss him, but it was always a sore subject. He went at me once for condemning the Serb atrocities against muslims in Kosovo and Bosnia. Told me the only good muslim was a dead one, more or less. Of course the Russians and Serbs are each other’s benfactors.
Whether that’s true or not, the Serbs were guilty of genocide, and they were doing it again in Kosovo. Events have since come to light that don’t paint the Albanians in a very good light, or muslims generally.
Nevertheless, you could justify anything by blood libels from 600 years ago, The Bosnians were living in peace when they seceded, and the Serbs slaughtered them for it.
When you backing the guys who are sniping kids, digging mass graves and constructing rape camps, I think you have a problem, whether the victims are muslims or not.
IMO.
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Democrat Lanny Davis praises Lindsey Graham, “the purple senator”:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/10/ode-to-the-purple-senator-lindsey-graham-sc-republ/
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It was a tough road with Apollyon on the Bosnia deal. My background has some German and the nazis used the Serb/muslim feud to their temporary advantage by arming the muslim side against the Serbs in order to make the occupation of Yugoslavia easier. Of course the muslims not only hated the Serbs but the Jews as well.
So a guy who is a Jewish Russian is not going to have much truck for the muslim side, especially when you pile on the ME conflict.
Nevertheless, I stand by my assertion that the Serbs committed genocide, and that Mladic and Karadzic were butchers…
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You’ll get no argument from me on evil being evil, regardless of the perpetrator.
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Well, the German side in ww2 was masterful at creating pretexts for the invasion, sacking, and enslavement of whole peoples. The Russians and Chinese are also very good at it. The central american communists/socialists are clumsy by comparison.
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I have always seen the Russians, whether the Czars, Bolsheviks (that is the popular Weimar/Nazi era term for the Leninists/Trotskyists/Communists, and is often taken as a pejorative by the Russian side) or Putin-ists, as very similar to the German National Socialists in their brutal methods, use of organized crime and demagoguery.
But Russian patriots would disagree. They say that is a weak stab at moral equivalence by a Nazi sympathizer who also has a case of sour grapes due to total and catastrophic loss of a war of annihilation to a traditional enemy.
Of course the German view since 1871 has been that the mortal threats to German security were France and Russia, (who often formed alliances) and the Schlieffen plan was concocted to deal with the constant worry of a two-front war.
Thus WW1 was fought by the Germans according to the Schlieffen plan until the tactical error in front of Paris, the loss of the war on the Western Front, while victorious against the distracted and poorly led Russians, and ww2 was intended to be, by the German armed forces, a re-fight of ww1, with lightning strikes against France and a series of envelopments in Russia that was supposed to trap and destroy the Russian armies west of Moscow, but never did, due to German tactical ambivalence, surpassing Russian courage, resourcefulness, and combat skill, and finally unusually severe weather which was not expected to factor in due to the war being over by then.
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Right Wing – realize that the Serbs are Slavs, thus the reason Russia is partial to Serbia. It is big brother slav looking out for little brother slav.
If the Republicans are dumb enough to support CIR – then I wont vote R again. Let the country slide into chaos and then I will clean out the swamp – one bullet at a time.
Pitch forks, torches, tar, feathers and nooses are too good for them.
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It is also a delicious irony to the Russians that Hitler’s impulsive invasion and occupation of Yugoslavia in April of 1941 in response to an anti-axis coup delayed the invasion of Russia by 5-6 weeks or so, and this combined with Hitler’s fetish for the Ukraine, delayed the intended capture of Moscow until the Russian resistance and remarkably terrible weather made it impossible.
So, it is not too much to say that, because some scholars view the Eastern front in ww2 as sufficient by itself to defeat the German side, even if D-Day or the landings in Italy had never occurred, and because this victory by the Russians was greatly helped by the delay due to Yugoslavia, that the determination of the Yugoslav people to support a coup in defiance of the Axis threat and their subsequent stubborn endurance of a brutal occupation did in fact lead to the defeat of Nazi Germany in ww2.
Among other things.
But that is not, I insist, why I fault the Serbs for what happened in 1991 in Bosnia, or 1999 in Kosovo.
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Really. I promise.
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Lou Dobbs asked where the Republicans are on the health care debate. Other than DeMint, Bachmann and Palin, where are the Republicans?
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They are not in attendance. It really is remarkable, how astonishingly compliant with the left the R party has become.
Cowards. So, people (like me, quite possibly) are going to get killed because of it.
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Well, my clever conclusion to the above nonsense was to observe that one might say that an Axis of Slavs, or “Slaxis”, ended up defeating the “Axis” in ww2.
If one were utterly mad enough to imagine such an expression.
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Allrighty then, here comes my medicine. Nap time, everyone!
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bc3b – here is a new one out of commiefornia. I have about seen it all.
SACRAMENTO, CA – Come November, you may notice your paycheck is a bit smaller. As part of the state budget fix, lawmakers are “borrowing” future income withholding taxes in order to raise $1.7 billion for this fiscal year.
http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=64236&catid=2
You just can not make this stuff up.
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Kalifornia – Democrats and RINOs: a dangerous combination. Wait: what do we have in Washington?
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“Knight, isn’t that RWY’s line?”
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Scary isn’t it.
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Yes, Gn, They are demanding tax be paid in cash, for IOUs that still have not been honored.
Can you believe this? How are the various state and federal governments even legitimate anymore?
They are not legitimate. They are fraudulent.
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For the RedEye fans (ps ann is on tonight)
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ggutfeld/2009/08/10/daily-gut-protesting-the-protesters/
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Boy, does that picture of Lindsay piss me off. At least he won his election. The man is totally without morals.
It’s like Chekote as a US Senator. Can you imagine that? That woman is arrogant on blogs, can you imagine what she’d be like as a Senator?
Yikes.
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Dear lord don’t scare me like that.
BTW Yes the CA IOU\pay the sales tax on the IOU’d sale is total lunacy.
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?It’s like Chekote as a US Senator. Can you imagine that? That woman is arrogant on blogs, can you imagine what she’d be like as a Senator?”
Yes, the Nancy Pelosi of the Senate.
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It’s like Chekote as a US Senator. Can you imagine that?
Have any BJG’ers ever contemplated running for congress?
It has crossed my mind. I’m not working right now and could conceivably spend the time and a bit of money (although my wife would kill me).
Unfortunately, I’m in the 12th congressional district represented by Jackie Speier — it shares part of San Francisco with Nancy Pelosi and northern portion of San Mateo county. In 2008 the district went 74% Obama and 23% for McCain and Speier won 75% of vote. Trying to run against those types of Democrat numbers just seems insane. But in the 80’s Republicans used to win in this area by a 50% margin before redistricting in the early 90’s.
Besides not being a Democrat, the biggest strike against me is my speaking skills. They are probably on par with George Bush’s — despite a number of years in Toastmasters. I simply never developed the knack of thinking and talking at the same time. Whatever gene someone like Palin has, I don’t have it. I’m much better talking with people one-on-one. I would consider running a GOPer or more likely an Independent — it probably wouldn’t matter much but as a Republican you would be guaranteed at least 20% of the vote or so.
I’m just wondering, is there any way to dislodge Democrats from districts such as mine? The whole thing seem so hopeless. I was thinking of finding and talking with the previous GOP candidate, Greg Conlin, just to get his thoughts his efforts in 2008.
Any thoughts?
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Most of your House is in my pocket. Most all of your Senate is in my pocket. I have bought off or blackmailed almost all of them now. A bunch of pesos here, several women there, a young boy for a few of them, actually more than quite a few, a little male attention for a certain former Senator from New York and now your Secretary of State . Her husband still neglects her something awful. Oh my Lord, the things she wants me to do to her. It makes my skin crawl, but it is for a good cause.
A little booze spread around. Alright a whole lot of gin for a certain Senator. Ay curumba, can he ever put it down. And his son, double ay curumba. That rehab stuff sure didn’t do him any good! I’m not even sure that he went. Telling Lindsey Graham that I would get him, or her, kind of hard to tell sometimes, a lot of media time, he/she loves that so much. I have even offered him/her his/her own 24×7 TV station. You have no chance GRINGOS.
Your Grandfathers kept you from having to learn German or Japanese or be lamp shades. But YOU ARE NOT the men or women that they were, not even close.
Once we get our amnesty, we will all come to your country. We will all have at least 10 ninos and in a generation we will overwhelm and deport most of you Gringos, especially Gringos like bc3b! Some of you, if you learn Spanish real well, we might let you stay to pick our lettuce or mow our lawns or take care of
OUR children in what used to be your houses.
Those who don’t learn Spanish will be deported to Alaska. That is until Al Gore’s global warming heats things up and we want Alaska too, then we will deport you all to New Orleans. It will probably all be under water by then anyway. I hope you Gringos can swim, he, he, he. My bad!!!
So give it up and LEARN SPANISH! You should probably all buy Mexican flags too and fly them in your front yard and on your pickup trucks. If you already have an American flag there it is alright if you keep it, as long as you fly it upside down and below our great Mexican flag.
Now repeat after me – I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of Mucho Grande Mexico, and to the Republic for which it use to stand, one nation under me, with everything for us, and nothing for you.
And remember Gringos,
APRENDER EL ESPANOL!!!
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MP
It takes time, if it can be done at all
Louisiana has emerged over the last twenty years from being a solidly Communist state to a fairly solid Republican state
Dave Treen began running for Governor here in the 60’s and got his ass kicked repeatedly, but every time he ran he got more votes until he finally won on his fourth or fifth try
Bobby Jindal is the end result of a lot of effort over many years by a lot of people who laid the groundwork
The only way to do it is to have a long time frame of ten to twenty years, educate people and cherish and expand upon small gains
No quick fix, though
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Viny, shouldn’t you be over at ObamaPundit…???
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Viny is pulling our chain, mi amigo….
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Although I must say the truth hurts, or La verdad esta muertos…
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a verdad lastima a veces , the truth hurts, sometimes…..
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That picture with Franken seals the deal for me. There is NO WAY I could sit there laughing like that with Al Franken. NO WAY! Maybe a little chuckle. But this is SERIOUS BUSINESS in this country right now.
We got Barack Obama’s Goldman Tim and Ben Stock Bubble Mania on Wall Street. And it ain’t helpin she-it in the real world economy. And these clowns are up there worried about health care and immigration? People need flippin jobs and we need some free market and less regulation for businesses to grow. Mother f-er. What the heil is Graham doing? That moron.
It is perfect picture of why I am NOT a Republican. Conservative yes. Libertarian yes. Absolutely can’t stand Democrats, yes. Republican? Heil no!
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Lou Dobbs asked where the Republicans are on the health care debate. Other than DeMint, Bachmann and Palin, where are the Republicans?
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Is that anything like ‘Where’s Waldo?’
mpt~~~~If you didn’t want to run yourself, you sure could team up with a like-minded conservative. You have great creative marketing and computer skills…to say nothing of your concise writing skills. But by all means, you should check it out, see what it would require of you and your family. You are definitely heads and shoulders above the rabble out there, even if you are uncomfortable with public speaking.
that’s why God created teleprompters. Just ask Obama.
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Vinny is cute.
“is there any way to dislodge Democrats from districts such as mine?”
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Sure dry up the handouts in the area and they’ll migrate elsewhere, short of that probably not, maybe fire up the Rovian hurrican…opps I mean earthquake machine?
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MPT – You always could be the guy… behind the guy… (SanFran pun not intended)
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Besides not being a Democrat, the biggest strike against me is my speaking skills. — MPT
Don’t let that hold you back. After watching some townhalls on the internet you can’t be any worst than Dingell or Stoyer. We are in one of those vortexes right now where 2010 will be decided on message rather than style.
Run as an independent. If the district is fairly compact do the door to door thing. Contact the Tea Party(s) in your area. Ask them if they would mind circulating an email based “Make your own Representative” of what they would want in a person for their district. (Results are your baseline for a campaign.) You’ll just have to convince them you mean what you say first.
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Well my Rep. Barton is having a townhall next week. He does not support the HC Bill. I still expect it to be a topic of discussion. However if I get my chance at the mic, I am basically am going to tell him that the he and the Rep party have not been bare knuckled enough to fight back. If he won’t I will hire someone else who will.
comments?