Open Thread Saturday
2009 August 22
What’s your opinion on:
- The $9 Trillion projected government deficit over the next 10 years
- ObamaCare
- Cap and Trade
- Comprehensive Immigration Reform
- Obama’s declining popularity
- The Republican Party
- Pelosi and Reid
- The 2010 ekections
- 2012 potential candidates
- Sarah Palin’s Facebook comments
- Any other people or issues
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hmm…my opinion on the “$9 Trillion projected government deficit over the next 10 years”?
(a) the $9 Trillion is gonna be $20 Trillion is ObamaCare and Cap&Tax pass
-and-
(b) it’s a joke even at $9 Trillion
The deficit THIS year is gonna be over $2 Trillion…and will put our country literally on the brink of collapse. Maintaining that pace year over year is suicide!
[2]
Obama is back in the negative double digits (-10) in today’s Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll. overall (49% approval/50% disapproval). Those approving of his performance are much softer than those disapproving (as indicated by the -10 rating).
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bc3b, the same with the feelings on ObamaCare. in the WaPo poll out today the For/Against ratio is 45/50. Only a negative 5 for our Dear Leader. But the STRONGLY For/Against ratio is 27/40. A 13 point negative for the Chosen One.
And this is WaPo/ABC polling…which means a hard skew towards Dems.
[4]
An interesting read from Ed over at HA.
[5]
drdog, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation and the like are just musty moldy old documents, kinda fun to look at when you visit the National Archives…but REALLY, are we expected to let them govern our lives?
We gotta be flexible! Besides, there’re hidden meanings inside them! If you turn the Constitution over, rub lemon juice on it and use a blow-dryer to heat it gently it says: “Oh, and every woman has a right to Government paid abortions!!”
They just ran out of room to put it on the front!
[6]
Watching National Treasure last night were you?
Understand what you are saying. Here’s the rub tho. The commerce clause has been limited to exactly that, even though the aspects about interstate commerce have been broached. So if they go this route using the power of that clause as the basis for being able to control the fortunes of the populace that nullifies the 14th Amendment.
So slavery is legal again?
[7]
What’s your opinion on:
The $9 Trillion projected. . . . IT SUCKS
ObamaCare. . . .IT SUCKS
Cap and Trade. . . .IT SUCKS
Comprehensive Immigration Reform. . . . IT SUCKS
Obama’s declining popularity. . . . . IT SUCKS
The Republican Party. . . . . . WE UNPLUGGED THEM, SO THEY DON’T SUCK, BUT. . . . .
Pelosi and Reid. . . . .THE BOTH SUCK
The 2010 ekections. . . . SUCKS–FOR THEM
2012 potential candidates. . . . GO PALIN!, OR AT LEAST NO MORE RINOS
Sarah Palin’s Facebook comments. . . . .BEST EVAH
Any other people or issues
[8]
As to the feminist argument of reproductive rights its just about done if HR3200 passes. How can one have control over one’s uterus when the State controls every other aspects in relation to body parts. State wants to raise the birth rate? Oh well we have ‘The Board’ radically defund abortion services. The opposite? Add more money. But regardless control has been ceded. Freaking useful idiots.
[9]
CT, is your middle name Hoover?
[10]
Oh by the way I see the Left have changed their tune. Used to be they marched incessantly on the issue of –
No Blood For Oil!
I read this. I turn on the Telly and International ANSWER is no where to be found.
SCUM. Time to boycott the UK for a while. We need to also kick Obama in the ass for not at least executing an extradition request. Americans should be pissed.
[11]
Dr. Dog, contained in the HA comments for that thread you referenced was this link.
These are the kind of people that were given power. This woman could rival Babs Boxer or Debbie ‘Fear of Flying’ Stabenow in her stupidity.
[12]
I don’t see the recovery that Bernecke and the media is crowing about. 14 states not have double digit unemployment. Michigan is 15% and the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia is up to 11.9%
In my view, the economy sucks.
[13]
phineas gage, I just read the article at the link, and “loved” the answer this moronic Congress Critter gave to “Where in the Constitution does it say you can do these things?”
“We do lots of things that aren’t in the Constitution.”
[14]
Mark Steyn, brilliant as usual.
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Justrand, yes, that is precisely what I was referring to.
It is scary that someone can be that stupid.
It is scarier that they have been given power over your life.
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14 states not have double digit unemployment. Michigan is 15% and the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia is up to 11.9%
FL at 10.6% has not been this bad since early 1970s, and like the Feds they are underestimating the real number…
[17]
We are going to have to learn to live with it, because it ain’t getting any better any time soon. In fact, it’s much likelier to get worse.
If Obama gets health care, carbon caps, and amnesty thru, look for the stock market bubble to reinflate, while unemployment goes up to 15% nationwide by 2010 elections….
[18]
Why am I not surprised about the projected deficit going up a third to $9 billion? ….and, it will undoubtedly be higher, if Obama is able to slam more of his agenda through.
Obamacare is an abomination! I’m sticking with my MFG vote that it will falter and die. If the dims stay with the public option, or the co-op idea (which people don’t trust as being legitimate), the townhall types will be angry and vote the dims out in 2010. However, if they get rid of the public option than the far left dims will be angry and vote against any watered down health care, opting for nothing, rather than “anything,” so they still have the issue of health care to rile the masses.
Cap & trade is weakening with the growing cooling that is overtly taking place across the country. 9 states this year have recorded overall cooler temps –that’s huge! Plus, the increasing deficits are taking the front seat to global warming rhetoric.
CIR —-> with everything else on the table, there is hardly time to think about trying to throw that against the wall too, to see if it will stick!
Obama’s numbers are bestowing him with some of the most dismal outcomes for a first-year President. Add his race-baiting comments and polarization, I think he will grow more ineffective with time.
The Republican Party is rumbling, like hungar pains from an empty stomach, but, so far there have been few stand-outs taking the plunge to differentiate themselves effectively from the dims. But, there is still time…..and, perhaps the tea parties will give courage to the lion-part of the GOP!
Pelosi & Reid —> Pitiful & Reprobate come to mind as adjectives for these two people. I think Reid is vulnerable in 2010, if the GOP can come up with a strong candidate to oppose him. Pelosi’s district, though, is just too liberal to upset her political apple cart. But, I do see her leadership position going bye-bye.
2010 elections, if held today, would see a sea change. Come 2010, a lot can happen, both pro and con.
2012 —> no crystal ball for that one!
Sarah Palin and her facebooks comments have been controversial and effective. I think, though, that she has to come out of the cyber world, taking and making her opinions on the national stage, or she will appear as nothing more than “ghost writer.”
[19]
[loudly] What time is it Citizens??
[loudly] Its Jimmy Carter Time!!
(with apologizes to Howdy Doody)
[20]
What’s that saying? You can’t fool all the people all the time? Looks like somebody on !Air America! has had it with Obama — http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/08/20/its-pretty-bad-when-you-have-air-america-calling-you-a-liar-mr-president/
[21]
The Dems’ agenda will still pass. They will tell each other they did not get elected for nothing. All they have to do is bring these items to the floor and vote for them.
Then they can get busy pumping up Acorn and buying votes, and most of them will get re-elected.
Since when did any leftists care what the people want?
[22]
Phineas -
In the Mark Styne article you cite, he mentions European countries where the GNP has risen, while ours has declined. Shades of the 1930s.
[23]
Sarah Palin: “The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.”
Barack Obama: “we are God’s partners in matters of life and death”
From Kaus:
Old New York Times reporting: “Death panel” rumors “false,” the product of a familiar network of anti-reform “pundits and conservative media outlets”:
There is nothing in any of the legislative proposals that would call for the creation of death panels or any other governmental body that would cut off care for the critically ill as a cost-cutting measure.
New New York Times reporting: “[F]ears … about possible rationing” are “not entirely irrational”:
The zeal for cutting health costs, combined with proposals to compare the effectiveness of various treatments and to counsel seniors on end-of-life care, may explain why some people think the legislation is about rationing, which could affect access to the most expensive services in the final months of life.
Sarah for the win.
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Yahoo -
“Then they can get busy pumping up Acorn and buying votes, and most of them will get re-elected.”
Again, this is a subject the GOP is strangely silent about as it was about the Justice Department dropping the case against the New Black Panther Party in Philadelphia.
Perhaps a brave soul will make a comment on Facebook and create an uproar.
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Don’t assume that poll results will translate into election wins.
Don’t assume that demonstrations affect government policy.
Don’t assume the Dems care what the people want or what is good for them.
I still don’t think we will come close to taking the house in 2010. Does anyone think we will have fair elections in this country again?
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Again, this is a subject the GOP is strangely silent about
The GOP is like the Imperial Senate. Dissolved.
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And with that , the marxist goes on vacation.
He’s well on his away to achieving his goal of destroying the country. A job well done. He deserves a vacation.
I hope he gets a permanent one very soon.
[28]
bc3b: “Shades of the 1930s”
Yeah, but that worked out well…didn’t it?
[29]
I will stick with my prediction that Hellcare and carboncaps stalls in the Senate.
But I also believe that the marxist’s approval numbers will rebound (yes, most Americans are just that stupid), the 2010 gains will be minimal, and the marxist is reelected in 2012.
We are a long way from out of the woods. We are just entering the deep dark forest.
The marxist will leave you a trail of breadcrumbs.
[30]
Hmmmm, I can’t imagine why the administration released the 9 trillion revision on late Friday afternoon……
[31]
Make the strongest nausea-control preparations in advance of the state-run media’s vacation coverage.
[32]
“I still don’t think we will come close to taking the house in 2010. Does anyone think we will have fair elections in this country again?”
Good question Yahoo. To paraphrase Michelle Malkin, we have a “Culture of Corruption” unlike any other time in our nation’s history. A few instances:
- A marketing agency that belonged to David A$$holerod and another that was a major pleyer in the Obama campaign will receive $24 million from health care ads
- A Brazilian firm that George Soros recently made a major investment in will receive a $2 billion loan for offshore drilling
- DNC-orchestrated frivilous ethics charges that place the Palin family $500,000 in debt and drive Sarah Palin from office
- SEIU thugs rough up people at town hall meetings
- ACORN is unchallenged
All the time, the GOP stands by and does nothing.
[33]
Personally I am a little more optimistic. I say that only because those that are in the Congress and the WH are bunglers, like on the scale of 3 Stooges bad. Bunglers never seem to finish what they start. So –
* HC. Senate rejects public option. The House libs seeing that as a possibility go into full revolt. At that point the libs pull the ‘take my ball home routine’, bolt and support nothing that is on the table. HC dies in its current form and is tabled till next year.
* Crap and Tax. Economic news continues its lack luster pace and finally someone with a brain cell at the WH figures it is a bad time to burden the economy with 2010 around the corner. WH goes into a lazy 4 corner defense and suggests maybe 2011 might be a better time to talk about this.
* Foreign Affairs. Something somewhere blows up bad. Say a NK missile goes awry and lands in Japan for example. ZerO stumbles again. Massive amounts of egg on face with two helpings of pie for good measure turn every pundit from moderate left to everyone on the right to a “He’s lame” mentality.
Sadly for all that goodness, the Reps will not have defined a cohesive strategy to capitalize on the misfortunes and only pick up maybe 2 Senate, 15 House seats thru it all. Dims remain in control.
Bottom line. Both ends of the Mall do nothing and we end up with a legislative Seitzkreg for the balance of Obama’s term.
[34]
drdog — I agree more with your scenario than some of the gloomier ones of yahoo or bc.
The more I read it seems like there are increasing numbers of formerly “disengaged” voters who are becoming actively engaged, forced into awareness by the sheer magnitude of Obama’s reaching into individual’s lives — their freedoms and finances.
The phrase, “awakening the sleeping giant” is reappearing when talking about townhalls; the repositioning of the “silent majority” now becoming a “verbal” group to be reckoned with.
Today, alone, there is a call for 1000 health care protests, outside congressional offices, around the country. It’s amazing how organized the “unorganized” grassroots is becoming.
So, I think there will be an impact by the public outrage. And, I also think we will be pleasantly surprised, come the 2010 elections. If there is fraud in the voting booth, like yahoo implied, then also be prepared for protest to follow (Iranian-style). Maybe this will be the “civil war” that people have alluded to which will eventually break the county apart.
All of this speculative, of course…but, I believe something “good” will yet come out of this confusing, chaotic time we are living through!
[35]
I know you won’t believe this, but an Obama appointee has tax problems.
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7016176794?Ron%20Kirk,%20Nominee%20For%20Trade%20Representative,%20Owes%20$10,000%20In%20Back%20Taxes
[36]
I guess confirmation hearings for Obama appointees are going to routinely start like this from now on:
Dem Senator: “You haven’t paid your taxes, have you?”
Obama appointee: “Of course not, Senator!”
Dem Senator: “You seem perfect for the job…no further questions”
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* HC. Senate rejects public option. The House libs seeing that as a possibility go into full revolt. At that point the libs pull the ‘take my ball home routine’, bolt and support nothing that is on the table. HC dies in its current form and is tabled till next year.
More likely its broken down into parts and rammed thru with an all-out blitz netting 4 or 5 Senate R votes. House is told to shut up and vote, and get what they want back in reconciliation. 5 Senate Rs agree to give Dems cover by voting for it after further media/Admin badcop/good cop…..
* Crap and Tax. Economic news continues its lack luster pace and finally someone with a brain cell at the WH figures it is a bad time to burden the economy with 2010 around the corner. WH goes into a lazy 4 corner defense and suggests maybe 2011 might be a better time to talk about this.
Since when does a leftist care about jobs? The way they see it, impose the socialism and let the jobs do what they may.
Same deal as health care, watered down version passes to be later beefed up by executive branch, instead of recon process this time…
* Foreign Affairs. Something somewhere blows up bad. Say a NK missile goes awry and lands in Japan for example. ZerO stumbles again. Massive amounts of egg on face with two helpings of pie for good measure turn every pundit from moderate left to everyone on the right to a “He’s lame” mentality.
Not an issue as the home front disintegrates into chaos.
Bottom line. Both ends of the Mall do nothing and we end up with a legislative Seitzkreg for the balance of Obama’s term.
Do you really think Rahm/SEIU will allow this?
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drdog, a “legislative Seitzkreg” is the absolute BEST possible outcome at this point. I’ll take it!!
sadly, however, I do think the Chigago Boyz are gonna get their way…no matter how many kneecaps get in the way!
[39]
The phrase, “awakening the sleeping giant” is reappearing when talking about townhalls; the repositioning of the “silent majority” now becoming a “verbal” group to be reckoned with.
Clubs have a way of being more persuasive than words…
Today, alone, there is a call for 1000 health care protests, outside congressional offices, around the country. It’s amazing how organized the “unorganized” grassroots is becoming.
Means very little unless they can convince their rep that much worse consequences await, and they do not fear electoral defeat yet. Plenty of time to turn in around before fall 09….
So, I think there will be an impact by the public outrage.
Yes. They will lock us out, and pass the bills anyway. Remember who holds congress. Does anyone think representative democracy still applies here?
[40]
luckily, as our enomomic “glass jaw” becomes more and more obvious. the Chinese, Russians, and Venezuelans will, in the spirit of our common humanity, not even THINK about taking a poke at it!
same with our military “glass jaw” as Obama whittles away at the military
yup, ya gotta have friends!!
[41]
The sitzkrieg is now, August. Remember the Sitzkrieg ended with the conquest of France.
September is coming. Prepare for slack-jawed amazement. If, on 9-12, two million march on DC, what will that do?
They will order the army to cordon them off and arrest a few, and vote for their bills anyway. An hour with Rahm in their office will ensure this.
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http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/21/video-obamageddon-in-2012/
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rwy: “Does anyone think representative democracy still applies here?”
When those “representatives” proudly proclaim:
“We do lots of things that aren’t in the Constitution.” ????
Nope.
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Morrisey (the big teddy) says “but does this mean it is time to start hoarding food and building bomb shelters?”
A commenter responded: “What do you mean, start?” heh…
Morrisey: “The US has been thru tougher times.”
And another commenter:
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Another good one:
“Glad you’re an optimist, Ed. We will need people like you for
litter bearers. a source of protein when we run out of food.”heh.
[46]
rwy…I love the “source of protein” comment!!
[47]
Hey. I hope I am wrong, and I hope this crap does not happen. I am glad people are waking up, but in my opinion, it’s not nearly enough, and way too late.
Celente is right: Nothing about the basics of the economy have improved, only gotten worse.
We are still printing cash, still manufacturing nothing, still shedding jobs a half million a month, still running huge fiscal and account deficits, still losing net worth, still driving away future jobs, still destroying future wealth.
Nothing has changed. Some old farts yelled at town hallls, big whoop.
[48]
The time to start stocking guns ammo, and food was 2-3 years ago. If you’re just getting started now, hey better late than never, but what took you so long to figure this out?
It’ll all be for nothing. But you might as well try.
[49]
Yeah, I think Ed is either overly optimistic, or he is concerned about being called a Beck.
I DO see collapse in the near future. I DO know that America is mentioned no where in the Bible. I DO know Obama is blatantly anti-Israel (curse that curse, bless that bless). I DO NOT have my head in the sand the way I did the day after the election. I DO KNOW that my family will survive.
[50]
very few folks have ANY concept of the near total breakdown of society that would occur if our currency collapsed. If would take but a few days before storekeepers were armed to the teeth in an effort to defend their wares…while angry mobs DEMANDED those wares!! As soon as the shooting started it would be a nationwide version of the L.A. Riots!
Obama would declare a “banking holiday”, suspend trading on Wall Street, seize key infrastructure components, and the National Guard would be called out nationwide. And THEN it gets worse…
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Hey. I hope I am wrong… —> rwy. I hope so too!
Celente is right: Nothing about the basics of the economy have improved, only gotten worse. —> rwy. Here I agree with you. The “economy is improving” rhetoric is put out there to calm the people.
But, I think people are getting more and more savvy, and not believing what is coming out of untrustworthy govt. mouths.
[52]
JM…the Holler isn’t a bad hunker-down place!!
[53]
I don’t mean to be such a crybaby people. But I view this as investing in a series of stocks. If they go up, great, but does that put money in your wallet? No, you have to sell first.
The Dem’s stock has dropped. Better than if it had gone up, I suppose. But trade time is a year 2 months away. Plenty of time to do a “Helicopter Ben” on their electoral fortunes.
It will be an interesting week on the Beck show, if nothing else. Unless that proves to be a huge letdown like everything else.
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very few folks have ANY concept of the near total breakdown of society that would occur if our currency collapsed. If would take but a few days before storekeepers were armed to the teeth in an effort to defend their wares. —> Justrand.
It is said that markets keep a 3-day supply of food. Can you imagine how fast those shelves would be wiped out in cast of riots, etc?!!
[55]
I’m not trying to shout you down, Jan. I like your optimism, but I am skittish about joining you there.
My career is heavily tied to the pre-2006 status quo on the economy. I want nothing more than jobs to come back, people to buy homes, state governments to spend wisely on infrastruture.
This secures my family’s future. I would love for every year to be like 2004 and 2005, economically.
I just don’t think it can be put back. It could be, if we elected Dave Ramsey POTUS. But with the people and government the way they are, it cannot be put back.
So.
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JM…the Holler isn’t a bad hunker-down place!!
I hear it can be burned out…. I guess most places can be.
If you have a power source, enough room for a few livestocks and a garden, defensible boundaries, and access to medical, I am sure it is a good hunker bunker.
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I would have to band together to make it, with my surrounding neighbors. I have enough room for a garden and a chicken coop, and that’s all.
Not really good on defensible boundaries, my house is totally exposed. And no source of power either. Still trying to decide on that one, with money tight.
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I’m not trying to shout you down, Jan. —>rwy I understand, and don’t look at our different takes as a “shout-down.”
I just have an underlying confidence in people, that they will not let this thing go as far as some of you are saying.
In people’s core I think there is a strength & heroism that bubbles up when pressed to the wall, or during some calamity. You see it in earthquakes, fires, 911. Sure, there are your cockroaches too that come out and take advantage. But, I think there are more decent people than indecent people in this country.
It’s just where I am coming from……..
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You are correct. That is why people need to think more along the lines of a 1 month supply of food (or more) on hand vs a 3 day like the gov’t recommends. CA folks should be good at this already, I hope. Batteries, food, tp, water, ammo, comfort items, etc- all in places you can access quickly if need be.
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Yeah, there needs to be lots of “pantry” food on hand!
[61]
In people’s core I think there is a strength & heroism that bubbles up when pressed to the wall, or during some calamity. You see it in earthquakes, fires, 911. Sure, there are your cockroaches too that come out and take advantage. But, I think there are more decent people than indecent people in this country.
I agree about more decent people “in the country”.
The problem is that is not true for the government.
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Our main pantry has 6 shelves, all stacked with over a hundred pounds each. I had to rip out the wire shelves and install wood to support the weight.
We have a couple additional 5′x6′ cabinets that we have assebled, and stood up against the walls as well, also full.
And the master closets are, well, packed.
My worries now are going back to things like body armor, overall vulnerability to fire and projectiles, and how to pack up and get out if things get really bad.
Tie downs for the trailer and roof rack, lists of items to be packed and cartons enabling them to be thrown on and tied down in a few minutes, logistics like that are hard to focus on.
You are always thinking “I’ll never have to actually do this, so, it’s a waste of time/effort.
Who knows.
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Well, then rwy, if we agree on the quotient of “decency” in this country, that is a core belief.
I also can’t fault your view of government as not holding the same values as people. But, I think this nation was formed on individualism and rights that supercede the grasp of government control. We are in the midst of losing that edge…but, I don’t think it is lost yet!
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Obama would declare a “banking holiday”, suspend trading on Wall Street, seize key infrastructure components, and the National Guard would be called out nationwide. And THEN it gets worse… — JM
O may call one but he can’t stop banking. The majority of banking is electronic which is seldom shut down. Not only that but the SWIFT system never shuts down. Western Union is on SWIFT. They are not a bank so they are not affected by a banking holiday. Billions could be out of the country in days even for a lowly schlep like me.
Trading? He can close Wall Street to what effect? I can go to the Hong Kong exchange and trade American stocks there too.
Unless he is prepared to shut down the 20 or so top level routers in the US, he does not have much recourse.
As to seizing key components, not enough manpower. He might be able to cover the power plants. But juice is most vulnerable at the distribution points. Of which there are hundreds. He might be able to guard the water pumps. But then there are hundreds of miles of viaduct. He can’t protect it all. Same with refineries, thousands of miles of common carrier pipeline that can be blown up.
O would be better off setting up a black ops to blow up the electrical grid and blame it on right wing militia groups so he can declare martial law.
Just sayin’.
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I hope O isn’t listening to you, drdog! Too many good ideas!
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“It is said that markets keep a 3-day supply of food. Can you imagine how fast those shelves would be wiped out in cast of riots, etc?!!”
I was a kid when the Cuban Missile crisis was at its peak. There was nothing left on shelves in the Tampa area within 24 hrs. This during a time when most grocery stores were not 24×7. Been there, done that.
The one item most forget is water. You keep a 1 month supply of food. So what? Do you have month’s supply of potable water? For a family of 4 that would be ~600 gal. (4*5*30) You know I don’t see many home with cisterns these days.
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Oh martial law isn’t an if. He just needs the right crisis. The grid would be good, though I think he is counting on Swine flu.
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Cisterns. There’s a course my firm teaches on how to build them.
Other than that, an outstanding point. I have thought about building myself one to catch irrigation water during the rainy season, for the dry months.
I read Farfel’s survival blog, and he said most water mains continued to run during the Argentina meltdown, with only minor exceptions.
Nevertheless it’s foolish to count on it. We have a couple tall stacks of water bottles in the garage, and an extra fridge, that would hold a week’s worth or 2.
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O would be better off setting up a black ops to blow up the electrical grid and blame it on right wing militia groups so he can declare martial law.
yes, and don’t suppose you’re the only one to think of staging it, either. It’s a classic Nazi-Soviet era strategy tool. The fake revolution inspiring the counter-rev.
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Well assuming everything crashes and you have ‘prepared’. Have you? Are you prepared to barter? Do you have a skill to trade, for over the long haul that will be the only thing worth value?
Industrial/Ag –
* metal working (casting, welding, brazing)
* Set up a neighborhood WiFi network.
* Car repair
* Alternate heating
Domestic -
* Make bread
* Slaughtering
* Canning, preserving
If as a group one can’t assemble those skills, 30 days will be tough, 6 months would be incomprehensible. Like they said in an old show — “If they don’t find you handsome, they better find you handy.”
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Janzam,
In a econ collapse the Political Class will be the first for the graveyard. Their only saleable skill is hot air which would be highly depreciated in a post Obama economic environment.
I some how can’t envision David Frum figuring out how to turn the front lawn of his estate into a wheat field.
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By the way ladies. Your days of having lower insurance rates than men are numbered — http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/the-state-of-the-drunk-driving-nation/
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drdog
You’re probably right about your assessment of who would go when in an economical collapse. But, in reviewing your list, I wouldn’t be far behind. Can’t slaughter animals, my bread-making is limited (but can roast a mean turkey), as is my canning abilities (haven’t done that since childhood).
I guess I would have to rely on nursing ability as a human commodity of mine.
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This one takes the “bureaucratic” cake!
Feds swarming garage sales and church bazaars? HA lINK
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Peoples Republik of Kalifornia GOP may restrict primary to party members.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/22/BAOD19C08G.DTL&tsp=1
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They have full canning kits at Target right now, Jan. You can buy the “Ball” book on how to use your equipment, and it has recipes included. My Great Grandma was so awesome at everything, canning, baking, sewing, etc…..but my Grandma never had any desire to learn, therefore did not teach my mother. I was young when GG died, so what I know of old timey skills has been self/book taught. I own a Country Living book, which is FULL of info, and if I am not mistaken, there are several versions of it. I have tried growing things in my garden, but there are too many critters. Right now I have to rely on the store….but by next planting season I will have a mini greenhouse where I can try my hand at gardening.
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Why Women should never give Men a shopping list.
Enjoy!
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rwy, on the subject of “Cisterns”, have you ever heard of H.O.V.E Hawaii??
Hove stands for Hawaii Ocean View Estates. It is the LARGEST sub-division in the United States, is built on (essentially) pure lava…and has NO WATER! We drove thru there while we were on the big island and were fascinated. Every single house has a cistern connected to elaborate gutter systems on their house. They try to capture every drop of water.
Strange existence. There are hundreds of miles of roads in this huge sub-division…and they all live this way!
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hattip Wizbang and Ace of Spades:
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/291222.php
wow…so all the denials by the White House that they had ANYTHING to do with these was a lie??? I’m shocked, SHOCKED!
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Yeah. I’ve hadn’t heard of HOVE.
Hawaii has widely varied climates. On the east sides of most of the islands, the rains pour down and the climate is jungle/tropics.
On the other side of these mountains, its desert like, Arizona. Much more property available and less dense. They go from 400 inches per year on the wet side to 40/year on the dry.
We honeymooned on the dry side, in Makena on Maui. Lots of ash and dry clay soil, and hot in September. Even the red/gold beaches have a dry feel to them. Over on the other side of the island, it was like rain forest, with white or black beaches and more like FL., with humidity and cool breezes.
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The Communists are headed for a train wreck in 2010
We pick up 25+ seats and it could get much much worse for them
The magic question is how much damage does Comrade Bullshit do before he becomes a lame unicorn…???
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wow…so all the denials by the White House that they had ANYTHING to do with these was a lie??? I’m shocked, SHOCKED! –JR
I wonder when Waxman will start holding hearings? I won’t hold my breath.
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Interesting read from this blog posting: What would Obama do?. I guess framing health care in terms of patriotism was enough so God is now dragged into it.
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Peoples Republik of Kalifornia GOP may restrict primary to party members.
Good link. The real interesting part was the last paragraph that mentions:
But any change might be short-lived. To secure the vote of Sen. Abel Maldonado, R-Santa Maria (Santa Barbara County), in February’s budget deal, the Legislature placed an open-primary measure on the June 2010 ballot. If passed, the top two vote-getters in state primaries – even members of the same party – would face each other in the general election.
WTF? How could it possibly be good to have two members of the same party run against each other?
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Open primaries are horrible, we had them here in Louisiana for years; in a large, crowded field a lunatic with a solid base of support of as little as 15%-20% can make the runoff
Horrible system…