9.12.09 March On Washington

2009 September 12
by INC

UPDATE again…HatTip Instapundit…great video

Updated: the crowd continues to grow. Here’s a livelink (thx DrDog!)

Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C.

I know we all wish we could be there…but we’re here every day, and we’re getting the word out!

We’ve had enough of the out of control spending, the bailouts, the growth of big government and the soaring deficits. And we reject the future tax increases to pay for all of this spending and debt down the road.

Those who came to the Fevered Swamp early for the 9.12.09 March, spent Thursday and Friday visiting Congressional offices–that should have been interesting!

Saturday morning they will meet at Freedom Plaza and march down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol and hold a rally at the West Front.  It should be a good day for We the People and as for Congress, well, it’s time they were reminded that for power to be just, it must be derived from the consent of the governed!

The foundation of our Empire was not laid in the gloomy age of Ignorance and Superstition, but at an Epocha when the rights of mankind were better understood and more clearly defined, than at any former period.

George Washington

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H/T:  9.12.09 March On Washington, Patriot Post Founders Quote Database.

231 Responses leave one →
  1. 2009 September 12 5:53 am
    [1]
    INC permalink

    I wanted to let you know I will be out the rest of the day. I have a couple of other threads scheduled to post automatically later. I apologize for not being able to talk!

  2. 2009 September 12 6:35 am
    [2]
    drdog09 permalink

    “The foundation of our Empire was not laid in the gloomy age of Ignorance and Superstition, but at an Epocha when the rights of mankind were better understood and more clearly defined, than at any former period.”

    Were ole George able to rise from the grave and survey the political landscape he might have added — “…than at any former period or future.”

  3. 2009 September 12 6:39 am
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    MDefl permalink

    Remember when the Dems wanted every nation on earth to approve of the Iraq invasion? Now, their God, Obama has agreed to drop multilateral talks with NK and make it easier on everyone by capitulating to the little punk directly.

    What, no outrage from the left?

  4. 2009 September 12 6:46 am
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    justrand permalink

    I pray the 9/12 March goes well…and has huge numbers. Whatever the numbers, we already know the media will estimate LOW and claim a failure because “5 times as many were expected”…or some such.

  5. 2009 September 12 6:49 am
    [5]
    justrand permalink

    MDefl: “Now, their God, Obama has agreed to drop multilateral talks with NK and make it easier on everyone by capitulating to the little punk directly.

    You only THINK it’s “selective outrage” by the Left. In fact Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia!

    you DO love Big Brother…don’t you, Mr. Smith??

  6. 2009 September 12 6:50 am
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    MDefl permalink

    Just,

    Day by day, more are tuning out to the msm on TV and cancelling their newspaper subscritptions. The day is coming, very soon, where their lies will fall on deaf ears with the exception of the Kossacks.

  7. 2009 September 12 6:50 am
    [7]
    drdog09 permalink

    A young woman went to her mother and told her about her
    life and how things were so hard for her She did not know
    how she was going to make it and wanted to give up, She was
    tired of fighting and struggling. It seemed as one problem
    was solved, a new one arose.

    Her mother took her to the kitchen. She filled three pots
    with water and placed each on a high fire. Soon the pots
    came to boil. In the first she placed carrots, in the second
    she placed eggs, and in the last she placed ground coffee
    beans . She let them sit and boil; without saying a word.

    In about twenty minutes she turned off the burners. She
    fished the carrots out and placed them in a bowl. She
    pulled the eggs out and placed them in a bowl. Then she
    ladled the coffee out and placed it in a bowl. Turning to
    her daughter, she asked, “Tell me what you see.”

    “Carrots, eggs, and coffee,” she replied.

    Her mother brought her closer and asked her to feel the
    carrots. She did and noted that they were soft. The mother
    then asked the daughter to take an egg and break it. After
    peeling off the shell, she observed the hard boiled egg.

    Finally, the mother asked the daughter to sip the coffee.
    The daughter smiled as she tasted its rich aroma. The
    daughter then asked, “What does it mean, mother?”

    Her mother explained that each of these objects had faced
    the same adversity: boiling water. Each reacted differently.
    The carrot went in strong, hard, and unrelenting. However,
    after being subjected to the boiling water, it softened and
    became weak. The egg had been fragile. Its thin outer shell
    had protected its liquid interior, but after sitting through
    the boiling water, its inside became hardened. The ground
    coffee beans were unique, however.. After they were in the
    boiling water, they had changed the water.

    “Which are you?” she asked her daughter.
    “When adversity knocks on your door, how do you
    respond? Are you a carrot, an egg or a coffee bean?”

    If you wilt under adversity then you are the carrot. If you become hard and bitter then you are the egg. If you arise and alter the circumstances of the adversity before you then you are the coffee bean.

    So which shall you be today?

  8. 2009 September 12 7:10 am
    [8]
    justrand permalink

    excellent parable, drdog…snarky jokes about finishing my coffee aside, here’s my actual answer:

    I’ve never been a “carrot”…it’s not in my genes.

    I used to be the “egg”…and some things do still “harden my heart”

    I’ve always loved to debate, discuss…whatever. I am a student of history, and love to base my “debating points” on facts and historical precedents and/or analogies. But unless the situation came up to have such a discussion I pretty much just went about my life.

    Then a few years ago I became the “coffee beans”…this site is one of the manifestations of that change. We ALL need to be “coffee beans”…or we’ll wind up squashed carrots!!

  9. 2009 September 12 7:13 am
    [9]
    drdog09 permalink

    For those that want to SEE the Tea Party in DC go to this link — http://www.trafficland.com/city/WAS/?rsid=weatherbug.

    You should see 14th and E street in the left corner. Click to get the stream.

  10. 2009 September 12 7:18 am
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    justrand permalink

    thx for the link, drdog.

    Eerie…the pictures look EXACTLY like the pictures that came out of Tehran after the faux “election”. Exactly.

    the outrage is the same. I hope our very own Imadinnerjacket doesn’t react the same.

  11. 2009 September 12 7:19 am
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    fedupartist permalink

    In my estimation, we need a minimum of 100,000 to be successful.

    Any other thoughts on crowd size?

  12. 2009 September 12 7:23 am
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    justrand permalink

    the crowd is already huge…and the rally itself doesn’t start until a bit later I think.

  13. 2009 September 12 7:28 am
    [13]

    In my estimation, we need a minimum of 100,000 to be successful
    fedupartist

    The jack booted ditchcarp could care less, as they will do what they want anyway,representative gubmit be damned.They have waited too long to grab the brass ring, to give up now.

    Bend over grab ankles~~~WBS~~~

  14. 2009 September 12 7:28 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Well do the math. If the average American consumes a space 1×2′. The city block are 700′x72′. I figure 4 lanes plus sidewalks for the 72′. The crowd looks to be about 8 blocks long.

    So from from just what is in camera view is over 200k people.

  15. 2009 September 12 7:29 am
    [15]
    fedupartist permalink

    Is there an official rally time?

  16. 2009 September 12 7:30 am
    [16]
    drdog09 permalink

    Bend over grab ankles …

    I prefer to bend over and grab my gun thank you.

  17. 2009 September 12 7:30 am
    [17]
    fedupartist permalink

    BTW, Great link Dog.

  18. 2009 September 12 7:34 am
    [18]
    drdog09 permalink

    fedup,

    At the same site, there is another camera more at a ground level that points to Pennsylvania and 9nw. You can see the crowd going by.

  19. 2009 September 12 7:35 am
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    fedupartist permalink

    I’ll look for it.

  20. 2009 September 12 7:38 am
    [20]
    fedupartist permalink

    I heard Beck will be there??

    Is he going to address the crowd??

  21. 2009 September 12 7:46 am
    [21]
    fedupartist permalink

    Someone said MSNBC already reported over 100,000 and it’s still early.

  22. 2009 September 12 7:52 am
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    MDefl permalink

    fedup,

    Are you HD at HHR?

  23. 2009 September 12 7:54 am
    [23]
    fedupartist permalink

    Yes!

  24. 2009 September 12 7:54 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Awfully big crowd. The head of the crowd is just now reaching the capital building. They fill the length of Penn Av. and I have yet to see the tail end of the march yet.

  25. 2009 September 12 7:55 am
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    MDefl permalink

    Are you really an artist? If yes, what type?

  26. 2009 September 12 8:00 am
    [26]
    fedupartist permalink

    No. Not even close!

    My wife is a graphic artist.

  27. 2009 September 12 8:00 am
    [27]
    fedupartist permalink

    Dog, Are you thinking this tops 200,000?

  28. 2009 September 12 8:00 am
    [28]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    yeah. That crowd looks huge. I should be there.

    Going into the office for a couple hours….

    Gonna be outside later today, running the tools and cutting boards, if it doesn’t rain. Cutting out cabinets, and some custom add-ons for my boys’ playcenter, we are trying to make it look like a pirate ship and add some extra swings.

    I love the sound of a saw cutting wood. Trees are useful for so many things. Making furniture is one of the best. :D

    “Got wood?” :D

  29. 2009 September 12 8:01 am
    [29]
    fedupartist permalink

    MDEFL, I thought you were going to DC??

  30. 2009 September 12 8:04 am
    [30]
    drdog09 permalink

    Got Wood?

    Knot now, but next weekend!

  31. 2009 September 12 8:06 am
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    MDefl permalink

    No – daughter’s first Soccer game today (which wound up being cancelled) and I have some stuff in the office that I have to get done today. I am on the road 3 days next week and for all or parts of the next 7 weeks.

    This is the problem with being a conservative. We tend to work for a living.

  32. 2009 September 12 8:10 am
    [32]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Well, we do when the economy is not destroyed. I know a lot of good men out of work, and for some it’s their 3rd year.

    I am so lucky. I was let go in June of 2008, and found work in 2 weeks. Good deal, too. Very fortunate. I have to go to an office now, but hey, no complaints.

  33. 2009 September 12 8:11 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Artist, I think it does. I can’t get a camera angle that points directly to the capital which would help a lot.

    JR, if you’re still there. I pulled some screen caps if you want to use them for a post. I don’t have embed rights.

    http://76.185.48.154/images/march1.jpg
    http://76.185.48.154/images/march2.jpg
    http://76.185.48.154/images/march3.jpg

  34. 2009 September 12 8:14 am
    [34]
    MDefl permalink

    I know conservatives who have been laid off from their jobs. The 1 thing they all have in common is that they find ways to provide support even if it is not in their chosen profession.

    I know one guy who is now working as a bartender under the table and is delivering Pizza for a mom and pop shop on nights when he is not bartending. He went from 6 figures to $5 or $6 hundred a week. His wife picked up a job. They are making it through.

  35. 2009 September 12 8:14 am
    [35]
    TLS permalink

    #15 here’s the schedule from the 912dc.org site:

    Saturday, 9-12
    9:00am Crowd gathers at Freedom Plaza
    11:30am March on the Capitol Begins down Pennsylvania Ave. (See Map)
    1:00pm March ends and Rally Begins at West Front of the U.S. Capitol

  36. 2009 September 12 8:15 am
    [36]
    MDefl permalink

    RWY,

    Nice drop-in at HHR yesterday. I don’t read her posts but I am 100% in how she responded. Nice work.

  37. 2009 September 12 8:18 am
    [37]
    MDefl permalink

    Holy crap!!!! That looks like WAY more than 100k. Is anyone going to post live?

  38. 2009 September 12 8:19 am
    [38]
    MDefl permalink

    100% certain. You know what I meant.

  39. 2009 September 12 8:19 am
    [39]
    TLS permalink

    MD – successful people do what unsuccessful people won’t

  40. 2009 September 12 8:20 am
    [40]
    MDefl permalink

    OK – have to get some work done. Check in later.

  41. 2009 September 12 8:22 am
    [41]
    Tina permalink

    Hey checking in, thanks for covering the event.

  42. 2009 September 12 8:24 am
    [42]
    justrand permalink

    At one point the crowd stretches the LENGTH of street from 14th and E to the Capital. Can someone figure what that distance is?

  43. 2009 September 12 8:24 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    I am not a conspiracy type but I cannot find single channel on TV covering this. Nor can I find any webcams that point to the capital bldg in operation. Hmmmm.

  44. 2009 September 12 8:28 am
    [44]
    TLS permalink

    Words of wisdon from an 8 yr old! I’ve been talking to my son about the march, mostly saying that the people are going to DC because the gov’t won’t listen to us and we are mad. So I was looking at the traffic cam just now and my son came over. I told him that was the march I told him about. He said do those people have guns? I said no. So he said, well the gov’t better listen now before they go back and get some!!

  45. 2009 September 12 8:28 am
    [45]
    TLS permalink

    Hi Tina!

  46. 2009 September 12 8:28 am
    [46]
    fedupartist permalink

    This is a poster from MM’s site, can anyone verify this?

    ………

    DC police estimates 1,200,000 so far!

  47. 2009 September 12 8:32 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    JR,

    Here a doggies estimate –

    E St&14th to Penna Ave — 200ft
    Penna Ave to Capital — 4000ft

    Very unscientific. I used the scale on google maps and my wife’s sewing tape. :)

  48. 2009 September 12 8:39 am
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    phoenixrisen permalink

    WHOA! GREAT!!!!!!!!!!

  49. 2009 September 12 8:43 am
    [49]
    conservativetony permalink

    DC police estimates 1,200,000 so far!–fedup

    It’s amazing that so many people in so little of time could be so against one person–Obama.

    It is good to see that so many people care about this country. This gives me new hope that we may be saved, yet. However, I am still saddened that we need to be saved in the first place.

    “It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.”

  50. 2009 September 12 8:44 am
    [50]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    RWY,

    Nice drop-in at HHR yesterday. I don’t read her posts but I am 100% in how she responded. Nice work.

    Thanks, we have to keep the floors clean, right? :D

  51. 2009 September 12 8:45 am
    [51]
    justrand permalink

    I guess Glenn Beck will start covering it live at 1:00 Eastern time…a little over an hour from now.

    But yup, the rest of the media will do ALL they can to cover NONE of it! (except to ridcule it, of course)

    Still, the Pols in D.C. really do KNOW the truth…that’s why they’re so good at covering it up!

  52. 2009 September 12 8:46 am
    [52]
    Brandon permalink

    Free Chek! :)

  53. 2009 September 12 8:46 am
    [53]

    Obama Administration Issues No Response to Slaying of Pro-Life Advocate

    by Steven Ertelt
    LifeNews.com Editor
    September 11, 2009

    Email RSS Print

    Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) — The administration of President Barack Obama was quick to respond to the shooting death of late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller. But, when it comes to the murder of a pro-life advocate urging students at a Michigan high school, the Obama administration hasn’t said a word.

    LifeNews.com has searched the daily press releases from administration officials, the White House website, mainstream media stories on the shooting, and news search engines.

    The search reveals the Obama administration has been silent on the Friday shooting death of pro-life advocate Jim Pouillon by an abortion advocate who was upset that he protested abortion outside a local high school.

    LifeNews.com sent an email to Obama’s press and faith offices hours after the shooting looking for reaction and never received a reply.

  54. 2009 September 12 8:46 am
    [54]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    1.2 million is a great crowd. It could be 5 million or more, if everyone stopped, dropped, and drove.

    I am a sissy for not going. I ended up not being able to miss any work, bah. Can’t do anything to piss off employers in this environment, for sure.

  55. 2009 September 12 8:47 am
    [55]

    Brandon and TB! Sweet.

  56. 2009 September 12 8:47 am
    [56]
    janzam permalink

    drdog

    Many thanks today for your “Carrot, Egg & Coffee” story. I saved it on my computer!

    The link for today’s 9/12 event is incredible!!! I don’t understand your “people estimates” in post #47. Could you explain.

  57. 2009 September 12 8:47 am
    [57]

    When does C-Span live coverage start?

  58. 2009 September 12 8:48 am
    [58]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Yeah, eph. Tears for Tiller, threats and shouts from all over the papers, and silence now.

    I heard another was killed unrelated. Any chance this was random?

  59. 2009 September 12 8:48 am
    [59]
    Brandon permalink

    1 PM. Beck will also be covering it on FOX at 1 PM.

  60. 2009 September 12 8:49 am
    [60]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Free Chek! :)

    Brandon, she is all yours. Enjoy, big fella.

  61. 2009 September 12 8:50 am
    [61]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    And Brandon,

    You know you want her money
    you know you think she’s sexy,

    Come on honey, let her know…..

  62. 2009 September 12 8:51 am
    [62]
    JustMary permalink

    I wish I was at the rally today!!!!!

  63. 2009 September 12 8:52 am
    [63]
    MDefl permalink

    rwy,

    Talking to Lisab, huh?

    A couple of months ago she claimed that Lisab was her home girl and that Judy “got her”. What a complete loser.

  64. 2009 September 12 8:53 am
    [64]
    JustMary permalink

    Brandon, sorry man…..she isn’t comin back. She can get a new IP every day, and the result will be the same.

  65. 2009 September 12 8:53 am
    [65]
    conservativetony permalink

    Wait, does Brandon want Chek free or does he approve that we have been Chek free? :grin:

  66. 2009 September 12 8:53 am
    [66]
    MDefl permalink

    Brandon,

    Wilson apologized. What else do you want him to do?

    I, for one, love the fact that we are finally playing by the Alinsky rules. Bout time.

  67. 2009 September 12 8:54 am
    [67]
    MDefl permalink

    Tony,

    He likes her.

  68. 2009 September 12 8:55 am
    [68]

    65. Tony is now #1 on the greatest Gravatar list!

  69. 2009 September 12 8:55 am
    [69]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Brandon is all about Chekote. He’s ahh, nevermind….

  70. 2009 September 12 8:56 am
    [70]

    “She can get a new IP every day, and the result will be the same.”

    HEH!

  71. 2009 September 12 8:57 am
    [71]
    justrand permalink

    Wednesday-Friday: OUTRAGE by the Dems and the media over Joe Wilson saying the President was lying about the Bills before Congress, and what they would or would NOT do to bar illegal residents.

    Saturday morning: White House and Senate work to repair Obama’s lie! Yup, they’re “fixing” the Bill to try and make it do what Obama said it did in the first place!

    Thx, Joe Wilson. Bad decorum…good result!

  72. 2009 September 12 8:57 am
    [72]
    drdog09 permalink

    Jan,

    47 was responding to JR’s query in 42 on the distance between 14&E st to the capital. I just fired up google maps and measured it off on the screen. I could have gotten fancier and done a google route and had it tell me the distance. The march is 14&E then a turn to the length of Penna ave that terminates at the circle in front of the capital building.

    Glad you liked the parable.

  73. 2009 September 12 8:57 am
    [73]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    It’s like being bulletproof. Feels good! Good for you! Good for me! Mmmm Good!

  74. 2009 September 12 8:58 am
    [74]
    justrand permalink

    Brandon, what’s the mood like on college campuses these days???

  75. 2009 September 12 8:58 am
    [75]
    Brandon permalink

    I don’t care what the left does. By yelling out like that, you are disrespecting the office of the presidency. I just fail to see why he is such a “hero.”

  76. 2009 September 12 8:58 am
    [76]
    drdog09 permalink

    CT,

    Hmm, you sure he’s not advocating electronic banking?? :)

  77. 2009 September 12 8:59 am
    [77]
    MDefl permalink

    Wait a minute! Didn’t someone at HHR tell me that her banning here was by her own choice?

    BTW – my library thing worked out. 20 new conservative videos will be ordered over a 4 week period.

    We threated a tea party and total exposure. More details later. It WAS funny. Turned into a late night at Sullivan’s with steaks, wine and a little Jamesons to wash it all down.

  78. 2009 September 12 8:59 am
    [78]

    Chekote is using Brandon’s tag!!!!

  79. 2009 September 12 9:00 am
    [79]
    JustMary permalink

    Brandon,

    Wilson apologized. What else do you want him to do?

    I, for one, love the fact that we are finally playing by the Alinsky rules. Bout time.

    I agree. Not only did he apologize, but he was actually correct in his calling Obama a liar in the first place- he was lying! Would the entire rep side of the aisle booing Obama, and refusing to stand when the other side is clapping and cheering have been a better alternative?

  80. 2009 September 12 9:00 am
    [80]
    Brandon permalink

    We have had a 240% increase in membership in our College Republicans over last year, so take that for what its worth. Conservatives are out there, we just need to give them a venue to express themselves.

  81. 2009 September 12 9:01 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Fox is now covering the march.

  82. 2009 September 12 9:01 am
    [82]
    JustMary permalink

    That is excellent, Brandon! The Kool-Aid haze is wearing off!

  83. 2009 September 12 9:01 am
    [83]
    conservativetony permalink

    DD

    Penalty for early withdrawal, of course.

  84. 2009 September 12 9:02 am
    [84]
    phoenixrisen permalink

    What the heck? Tommy Boy and now Brandon too? :) Hmmmm :)

  85. 2009 September 12 9:02 am
    [85]
    MDefl permalink

    Brandon,

    Bush being booed by Dems in congress. Being called Hitler. I hope it happens everytime that POS calls us liars. Why should we have to take it when the other side gives that pos a standing ovation when he is lying?

    Your type of attitude is the reason we are in this fix. I love Wilson and already gave him $.

  86. 2009 September 12 9:03 am
    [86]
    TLS permalink

    Well when they do Brandon, maybe you shouldn’t assume that they are just going along with the crowd

  87. 2009 September 12 9:03 am
    [87]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Wilson apologized. What else do you want him to do?

    Brandon is on our side, but you have to consider his background, he is not very conservative and does not really see the left as a threat, from what I gather.

    When he came here the first time, he said the Rs needed to offer free education and health care a a right, and did not expect the Rs to win again until they did. As ususal, arguments by us regarding liberty, the constitution, and responsibility were scoffed at.

    Maybe it’s because he is from NJ, I don’t know. He’s just not that conservative, maybe a real independent. Sees government as a force for virtue and goodness, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

    I, for one, love the fact that we are finally playing by the Alinsky rules. Bout time.

    Hell yeah. Sic em, doggy. Maybe the left should be glad we are drawing the line at ol’ Saul. Could be worse.

  88. 2009 September 12 9:05 am
    [88]
    JustMary permalink

    I am watching the Fox streaming video of the march. Great turnout! Does my heart good!

  89. 2009 September 12 9:05 am
    [89]

    I don’t care what the left does. By yelling out like that, you are disrespecting the office of the presidency. I just fail to see why he is such a “hero.”~~brandon

    The numbnuts that presently resides in said office, disrespected it the day he walked into it. Joe Wilson had the balls to say what a majority the sheeple think anyway.Were you as outraged at the dems when they booed Bush under the same settings. (P.S. please don’t breed with you know who.)

  90. 2009 September 12 9:05 am
    [90]
    phoenixrisen permalink

    James O’Keefe, another American hero tells CNN to stick it. I missed a lot in the last 12-18 hours!

  91. 2009 September 12 9:05 am
    [91]
    Brandon permalink

    You always misrepresent what I said. I said college needs to be made more affordable and that we should try to find a way to insure those who really cannot afford insurance and need it.

  92. 2009 September 12 9:07 am
    [92]
    drdog09 permalink

  93. 2009 September 12 9:07 am
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    MDefl permalink

    RWY,

    No – he is a true Republican. 3 weeks ago, I re-registered as an independent because his attitude is prevalent within that party. I probably will still vote R since the D’s are basically communists now but, as a former squishy R, I just can’t take it anymore.

    The beginning of the end for me was when the squishy R’s not only did not defend Sarah Palin but jumped right on the msm bandwagon. McAmnesty only confirmed my feelings.

  94. 2009 September 12 9:07 am
    [94]
    phoenixrisen permalink

    Democrats and the MSM, the classic example of the double standard.

  95. 2009 September 12 9:09 am
    [95]
    phoenixrisen permalink

    MD, don’t get me started on McCain. I’m just happy to see that his campaign finance reform legislation looks like it is going to go down in flames. Hopefully the ruling comes soon.

  96. 2009 September 12 9:09 am
    [96]
    Brandon permalink

    I was registered as Independent until about April of this year, and then changed before the June Primary.

  97. 2009 September 12 9:09 am
    [97]
    MDefl permalink

    Phoenix,

    A lot of R’s are just as bad.

  98. 2009 September 12 9:10 am
    [98]

    You always misrepresent what I said. I said college needs to be made more affordable and that we should try to find a way to insure those who really cannot afford insurance and need it. brandon

    “made more affordable”====IE: make someone else pay for it.

    “try to find a way to insure”==make someone else pay for it.

    (who is this “we” shit kemosabi)????

  99. 2009 September 12 9:10 am
    [99]

    “I, for one, love the fact that we are finally playing by the Alinsky rules. Bout time.”

    AMEN!

  100. 2009 September 12 9:11 am
    [100]
    conservativetony permalink

    As a small tribute to Joe Wilson, I’m going to fix some of the “lies” appearing on the Drudge Report.

    I wholeheartedly apologize to Matt Drudge. . . . .

    1. Administration abandons six-party talks; capitulates to NKorea…

    Rewrite: Rogue administration abandons six-party talks; agrees with NKorea…

    2. Agrees verification needed to ensure illegals don’t receive healthcare benefits…
    Census bureau cuts ties with ACORN…

    Rewrite: Agrees verification needed to ensure illegals receive healthcare benefits…

    3. Census bureau cuts ties with ACORN…

    Rewrite: Census bureau cuts ties with ten of thousands of lesser Obamas.

  101. 2009 September 12 9:11 am
    [101]
    Brandon permalink

    “We” as in “our country.”

  102. 2009 September 12 9:12 am
    [102]
    MDefl permalink

    McCain/Feingold was not only an insult to the 1st Amendment but was actually slanted in the left’s favor. The irony was that McCain/Feingold is one of, but certainly not the only thing, that hurt McAmnestly in the election.

    Thank God we had Palin. Otherwise, the Dems would have veto proof house and 65 Senators.

  103. 2009 September 12 9:12 am
    [103]
    fedupartist permalink

    CNN: Sizable crowd, larger than anticipated.

  104. 2009 September 12 9:12 am
    [104]
    phoenixrisen permalink

    Fox News is carrying this live on the web

  105. 2009 September 12 9:13 am
    [105]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Wilson told the trusth, Brandon. Obama was the one “disrespecting” the office by lying.

    And what is this “disrespecting” crap? You from the hood or something?

  106. 2009 September 12 9:14 am
    [106]
    MDefl permalink

    Don’t misunderstand. I know that Obama would never veto anything this House would pass.

    Hopefully in 2010 that changes.

  107. 2009 September 12 9:14 am
    [107]
    phoenixrisen permalink

    I know MD, but McCain is the picture boy of those Bad R’s

  108. 2009 September 12 9:14 am
    [108]

    We” as in “our country.” ~~brandon

    My “country” doesn’t own the fruits of my labor.
    YOU of course can help whoever you want with your own cash,
    but stay out of my pocket comrade.

  109. 2009 September 12 9:15 am
    [109]
    MDefl permalink

    Keep them off balance and disorient them. Bring them outside their comfort zone.

  110. 2009 September 12 9:16 am
    [110]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    McCain/Feingold was not only an insult to the 1st Amendment but was actually slanted in the left’s favor. The irony was that McCain/Feingold is one of, but certainly not the only thing, that hurt McAmnestly in the election.

    Right on. They pounced on it first, while our side was so sure it was unconstitutional, we waited for the court. Then we got the shockah, and had to start way behind.

  111. 2009 September 12 9:16 am
    [111]
    JustMary permalink

    wtp

  112. 2009 September 12 9:16 am
    [112]
    MDefl permalink

    Who is James O’Keefe? Pardon my ignorance.

  113. 2009 September 12 9:17 am
    [113]
    JustMary permalink

    See the size of the crowd already? Watch…..the left will call it 200 people tops.

  114. 2009 September 12 9:18 am
    [114]
    phoenixrisen permalink

    He was the film maker who busted ACORN with the undercover sting.

  115. 2009 September 12 9:18 am
    [115]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    Dammit. Raining outside. Bugger that. All week long while I was at work, the bloody weather was dry. The one day I can work outside: Rain.

    Democrats.

  116. 2009 September 12 9:18 am
    [116]
    janzam permalink

    JM — Great picture above!

  117. 2009 September 12 9:19 am
    [117]
    MDefl permalink

    Just Mary,

    Can I post from a blackberry? I travel for work and have not been able to do so. I love the site and read all the comments though.

  118. 2009 September 12 9:20 am
    [118]
    fedupartist permalink

    FWIW

    joegallant: RT @LibertyPatriot: Reports put crowd for #912dc bigger than inauguration crowd — CONGRATULATIONS Patriots! #glenbeck, #liberty, #teaparty

  119. 2009 September 12 9:20 am
    [119]
    MDefl permalink

    Phx,

    I saw him on Hannity last night but the TV was in Sullivans and had no sound!

  120. 2009 September 12 9:20 am
    [120]
    justrand permalink

    Brandon, I actually agree that Wilson’s, um, “decorum” was not what it maybe shoulda been…but that’s just because WE are not the Left.

    They did “Boo!” Bush loud and lustily…as a GROUP during a State of the Union speech. And not.one.peep from the media!

    Our current Veep, Joey Biden, SAT THERE during that lusty booing, and yet NOW he feels ONE MAN, saying TWO WORDS “demeans that sacred chamber” (HIS words). Obvious bullshit.

    But we are NOT the barbarians…so yeah, we do need to show some class.

    ALL THAT SAID…as a result of the spotlight Wilson shed on the topic of Illegal Aliens being covered, the Senate and the White House are ONLY NOW working to fix it (though they’ll break it again when no one is looking)

    like I said, bad decorum = good result in this case

  121. 2009 September 12 9:21 am
    [121]
    MDefl permalink

    I feel a Lee Greenwood song brewing.

  122. 2009 September 12 9:21 am
    [122]
    JustMary permalink

    MDefl- I used to post here from my blackberry, but mine only had basic internet capabilities. It was a pain in the neck, but it worked. I use my iphone now, and it is much easier.

  123. 2009 September 12 9:22 am
    [123]
    fedupartist permalink

    View from the podium:

    http://twitpic.com/hg5mb

  124. 2009 September 12 9:23 am
    [124]
    JustMary permalink

    fedup- I am going to try something. Twitpic has an embed code…..

    My view #912dc on Twitpic

  125. 2009 September 12 9:23 am
    [125]
    JustMary permalink

    It worked! Not big enough though. Let me mess with it.

  126. 2009 September 12 9:24 am
    [126]

    I WISH I WAS THERE~~

  127. 2009 September 12 9:24 am
    [127]
    MDefl permalink

    Thanks JM. I’ll keep trying. The bberry is from work and is free. I don’t want to pay for an Iphone. Cuts into my Sullivan’s Steak House budget.

  128. 2009 September 12 9:24 am
    [128]
    drdog09 permalink

    Wilson is to be a guest on Sun w/C Wallace tomorrow.

  129. 2009 September 12 9:24 am
    [129]

    NEW THREAD PLEASE! HAHAHAHAHAHA

  130. 2009 September 12 9:25 am
    [130]
    conservativetony permalink

    The left will try to use the rally to elevate Obama.

    “Obviously, the economy is picking up steam. Look at the size of this crowd. We’re hearing reports that most of them flew in from around the country. What the cost for a round-trip ticket, airline ticket, hotel room, and rental car for a couple of days? These people have Obama to thank for their ability to afford all of this.”

  131. 2009 September 12 9:25 am
    [131]
    MDefl permalink

    I WANT my country back!!!!

  132. 2009 September 12 9:25 am
    [132]

    Wilson should run for Senate against RINO

  133. 2009 September 12 9:26 am
    [133]
    drdog09 permalink

    JM, your twitpic is hot. Click on it and it expands. Pretty cool.

  134. 2009 September 12 9:26 am
    [134]
    JustMary permalink

    podium

  135. 2009 September 12 9:27 am
    [135]
    JustMary permalink

    I didn’t know that, drdog. Cool feature! Ah well….

  136. 2009 September 12 9:29 am
    [136]
    BCL permalink

    Free Chek! :)

    A BIG thumbs down on that. Keep an eye for sock puppets.

    RWY, your stalker is back at PP. It’s aura.

  137. 2009 September 12 9:32 am
    [137]
    conservativetony permalink

    One thing is certain: Obama didn’t hire enough SEIU thugs, otherwise they would be out in force.

    (Size of crowd + 1) = Number of SEIU thugs to bus in.

  138. 2009 September 12 9:32 am
    [138]

    The fox live feed looks like a bunch of racist white people.

  139. 2009 September 12 9:32 am
    [139]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    I saw that. I won’t post there anymore.

  140. 2009 September 12 9:33 am
    [140]
    Brandon permalink

    They are all just teabagging rednecks, duh.

  141. 2009 September 12 9:35 am
    [141]
    drdog09 permalink

    JM,

    Things are going to get even neater in the near future. WiMax is being rolled out in many cities now. 6mbps down, 1mbps up anywhere you are in range of the network. If DC had that in place for the march somebody could have done a live stream the length of the march live. We live in interesting times.

  142. 2009 September 12 9:36 am
    [142]
    rightwingyahoo permalink

    They are all just teabagging rednecks, duh.

    You should annotate your snarks.

  143. 2009 September 12 9:38 am
    [143]
    JustMary permalink

    Talk about knowledge increasing, eh drdog? ;)

  144. 2009 September 12 9:38 am
    [144]
    drdog09 permalink

    (Size of crowd + 1) = Number of SEIU thugs to bus in.

    (Size of crowd + 1) = Number of Texas Rangers to control the crowd = 1

    (Size of crowd + 1) = Number of persons to get the crowd fired up? = 1 Glenn Beck.

  145. 2009 September 12 9:42 am
    [145]
    fedupartist permalink

    FWIW:

    michellemalkin RT @pinkelephantpun: ABC reporting 2 million people #912

  146. 2009 September 12 9:43 am
    [146]
    conservativetony permalink

    DD,

    Wimax is indeed interesting. The small town where I live asked me to look into ideas for making the entire downtown section of the town wireless. With Wimax, virtually the whole town could’ve gone that route and paid for itself in a very short amount of time.

  147. 2009 September 12 9:43 am
    [147]
    JustMary permalink

    2 mil? NICE!

  148. 2009 September 12 9:44 am
    [148]
    conservativetony permalink

    Is Beck scheduled to speak?

  149. 2009 September 12 9:50 am
    [149]
    BCL permalink

    Not a mention of the march on Drudge!

  150. 2009 September 12 9:50 am
    [150]
    drdog09 permalink

    CT,

    Yes indeed. Did they go through with the proposal?

    What generally presents itself as problem is the backhaul to get to a network node. Its not economic for a single city to foster, it takes several small towns for traffic to be large enough to pay for it. A lot of coordination effort.

  151. 2009 September 12 9:50 am
    [151]
    fedupartist permalink

    BCL, He will.

    He’ll do a huge splash.

  152. 2009 September 12 9:51 am
    [152]
    drdog09 permalink

    CT,

    I understand Beck is to be there.

  153. 2009 September 12 9:51 am
    [153]
    phoenixrisen permalink

    JM, no wonder the Dems were worried about the size of this thing. Big, BIG PR victory for conservatives.

  154. 2009 September 12 9:51 am
    [154]
    BCL permalink

    Gotta go order steel for my fence project.

  155. 2009 September 12 10:01 am
    [155]
    drdog09 permalink

    Steel?

  156. 2009 September 12 10:01 am
    [156]
    aureliusx permalink

    While millions march on DC, the screaming headline on CNN is….

    wait for it…

    a random phrase from Obama’s radio address “Obama: ‘Anyone’ can go without health insurance”.

    Brandon, still think we have to be polite to get the truth out?

  157. 2009 September 12 10:02 am
    [157]
    drdog09 permalink

    Hmm. Looks like Beck is not going to be there. Can’t if he’s in NY studio.

  158. 2009 September 12 10:02 am
    [158]
    TLS permalink

    bumping my own post from HHR:

    On Wilson, just think about this. The silent majority is being run over BECAUSE they are silent. As we go about our daily lives, others assume that we are sheeple b/c we aren’t saying anything. We are getting run over and the gov’t has increased in power b/c we have let them by doing nothing. Any even now that we are waking up, we still don’t have a leader b/c we have turned into a crowd of polite followers. I for one am glad that he screamed and unless a lot of other people start screaming with him, we are going to get sheepled politely off a cliff. GO JOE!

  159. 2009 September 12 10:04 am
    [159]

    live feed it takes a minute to load.

  160. 2009 September 12 10:06 am
    [160]
    JustMary permalink

    AMEN, TLS!!!!!

  161. 2009 September 12 10:09 am
    [161]
    drdog09 permalink

    IP, good find.

  162. 2009 September 12 10:18 am
    [162]
    knova permalink

    It looks like they don’t need me. I had a race this morning and after getting cleaned up drove 30 miles to the Vienna Metro stop (last one in the VA suburbs) All of the parking was gone and there were at least 2000, normal working fols waiting for the trains. Metro in its government wisdom looks like they are running 4 car trains at 20 minutes, instead of the 6 car trains at 12 minutes that they will run for other special events…like Redskins games.

    I really wanted to be a part of this.

  163. 2009 September 12 10:28 am
    [163]
    drdog09 permalink

    Heh. I just saw a sign on the live feed — “You Lie!”.

  164. 2009 September 12 10:33 am
    [164]
    conservativetony permalink

    DD,

    I think the costs for Wimax were too prohibitive for them. I gave them two other ideas, one I thought they would run with was just making one small area of town wireless then building on that during subsequent years. They were looking for ideas to bring more people into our town of 3000.

    There were a lot of towns and cities I researched around the world that went the wirless route, and by all means they were successful. But there has to be something about the area that attracts people to the area in the first place. Seattle was one of the areas that seems to fit the “wireless city” idea.

  165. 2009 September 12 10:36 am
    [165]
    conservativetony permalink

    Oh oh. The references to God and the Bible won’t sit well with shewhowillnotbenamed.

  166. 2009 September 12 11:05 am
    [166]

    RAS = 49%

    WHERE IS THE BOUNCE??????????????

  167. 2009 September 12 11:08 am
    [167]

    165. Who mean “?”

  168. 2009 September 12 11:29 am
    [168]
    drdog09 permalink

    CT,

    Here in the middle of the US, the draw is the peace and quiet and living cost anywhere from 1/2 to a 1/3rd less than the coasts.

    I have had consultations with 2 phone coops in OK on replacing their aging switch gear. Both proposals were to go wireless and VoIP, and work a deal with a gateway-pstn provider.

  169. 2009 September 12 11:33 am
    [169]
    justrand permalink

    the size of that crowd was EASILY over 500,000…and some estimates have it above 1,000,000. Look for the media to describe this as “Several thousand”.

  170. 2009 September 12 11:38 am
    [170]

    169. Bingo! Check out http://www.ABCnews.com

  171. 2009 September 12 12:01 pm
    [171]
    JustMary permalink

    I’m surprised they didn’t say hundreds.

  172. 2009 September 12 12:12 pm
    [172]

    Most def 500k+ looks like probably 1m+ , 2m may be high but could be if they include the march, hard to say without aerial shots. If the cops say 1.2+ I take that.

  173. 2009 September 12 12:16 pm
    [173]

    JM MSM will use obama health care math to count crowd size.

  174. 2009 September 12 12:20 pm
    [174]
    Tina permalink

    I must have the same stalker at HHR, huh. Anything happening on FNC about this?

  175. 2009 September 12 12:20 pm
    [176]
    JustMary permalink

  176. 2009 September 12 12:20 pm
    [177]
    Tina permalink

    Faux news had it in the thousands. What does that mean??? Sorry, they irritate me a lot too.

  177. 2009 September 12 12:21 pm
    [178]
    JustMary permalink

    You beat me to it, KH!

    Tell the truth!!! Too cool.

  178. 2009 September 12 12:24 pm
    [179]
    Tina permalink

    That reporter, as she started speaking, began with the classic liberal head bobb- saying that I’m superior to you.

  179. 2009 September 12 12:27 pm
    [180]

    WASHINGTON (AP) – Thousands of people marched to the U.S. Capitol on Saturday, carrying signs with slogans such as “Obamacare makes me sick” as they protested the president’s health care plan and what they say is out-of-control spending.
    —-

    As predicted by all…. “thousands” instead of hundreds of thousands.

  180. 2009 September 12 12:30 pm
    [181]

    Wow! CNN actually is covering the march?

    Look for Obama’s numbers to sink even lower.

  181. 2009 September 12 12:32 pm
    [182]
    JustMary permalink

    I just loved the lady in the studio…..warning….there might be yelling. Now for you DU kids, go upstairs from the basement and ask your mommy to make you some hot cocoa and watch this video with you. Big meanies! Twying to make you affeared in your wittle hearts!

  182. 2009 September 12 12:32 pm
    [183]

    Actually they looked like they were trying to cover the wilson story with the tea party as a backdrop. BTW I will give CNN a little credit for carrying the acorn stuff yesterday, other than Fox they were the only ones I saw.

  183. 2009 September 12 12:41 pm
    [184]

    nice line.

    “It’s the Constitution stupid!”

  184. 2009 September 12 12:45 pm
    [185]
    mpthompson permalink

    My day is booked with kid sports today, but I’m enjoying following the coverage on this site from my iPhone. Keep it up!

    BTW, I would love to see Wilson address the chamber this week, then refuse to apologize (he already apologized to the offended party, Obama) and then proceed to give a Jack Nickelson style “You Can’t Handle The Truth” speech to the chamber. Conservatives would go crazy and the Dems would go ballistic.

  185. 2009 September 12 12:46 pm
    [186]

    btw right march blog guy after talking about it’s the constitution stupid, went into a couple lines about “They lie!!”, then thanked Joe Wilson for telling the truth, crowd let out huge cheer.

  186. 2009 September 12 12:48 pm
    [187]
    TLS permalink

    It appeared to be that they were really trying to give a bad impression of the tea party by saying Wilson acted inappropriately and look here, these people are doing the same thing.

  187. 2009 September 12 12:53 pm
    [188]
    Tina permalink

    Great coverage, btw, maybe repost this threat at the top though??? Anyway, just a suggestion, you guys are on it.

  188. 2009 September 12 12:55 pm
    [189]
    justrand permalink

    i just put a new video at the top of this post…good stuff! (unless you’re Obama, of course)

  189. 2009 September 12 1:02 pm
    [190]
    lisab permalink

    “If you wilt under adversity then you are the carrot. If you become hard and bitter then you are the egg. If you arise and alter the circumstances of the adversity before you then you are the coffee bean.

    So which shall you be today?”

    i am the boiling water

  190. 2009 September 12 1:02 pm
    [191]
    JustMary permalink

    Great coverage, btw, maybe repost this threat at the top though??? Anyway, just a suggestion, you guys are on it.

    I was actually just thinking I should make this thread sticky until Poetry Night tonight.

  191. 2009 September 12 1:08 pm
    [192]
    Tina permalink

    We need to start selling shirts with this:

    You can’t fix stupid, but you can vote it out.

    Have the Obumbler’s picture on it.

  192. 2009 September 12 1:10 pm
    [193]
    JustMary permalink

    :lol: Love it #192

  193. 2009 September 12 1:18 pm
    [194]
    JustMary permalink

    That video was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! I wish I was there!!!!!

  194. 2009 September 12 1:27 pm
    [195]
    drdog09 permalink

    Just remember, thru all the struggle and strife, the politics, the stupidity, your dog has the answer.

  195. 2009 September 12 1:32 pm
    [196]

    one wonders what the ratio is between those who went to wash. and those who feel the same way but stayed home???

  196. 2009 September 12 1:40 pm
    [197]
    JustMary permalink

    Oh I would say at least as many (if not more) wanted to be there as did attend, IP. Takes money though. Plane tickets/gas, lodging, food, time off work, etc.

  197. 2009 September 12 1:42 pm
    [198]
    JustMary permalink

    What should tonight’s Pithy Poetry Night theme be?

  198. 2009 September 12 1:49 pm
    [199]
    justrand permalink

    Tina: “You can’t fix stupid, but you can vote it out.”

    I LOVE the t-shirt idea!!!!

    and as for Poetry night…ya better settle on it quick, ’cause I need a LOT of “ramp up” time!! :)

    How ’bout something based on Tina’s t-shirt idea…i.e. DRAINING THE SWAMP!!

  199. 2009 September 12 1:50 pm
    [200]

    Probably at least 10:1

  200. 2009 September 12 1:53 pm
    [201]
    JustMary permalink

    Draining the swamp it is, unless you think of something else before 4pm. :D

  201. 2009 September 12 1:56 pm
    [203]
    Sharp2edgedsword permalink

    one wonders what the ratio is between those who went to wash. and those who feel the same way but stayed home???

    I would guess somewhere between 50 to 1 and 100 to 1.

  202. 2009 September 12 1:57 pm
    [205]
    JustMary permalink

    SWEET! Go Joe!

  203. 2009 September 12 1:57 pm
    [206]
    Sharp2edgedsword permalink

    Eph, I won’t link it but I did read an article at kos about why jews vote dem.

  204. 2009 September 12 1:59 pm
    [207]

    I dont need to see the link to know why sharp.

    Why do you think “?” talks about hanging out wit her Jewish friends so much???

  205. 2009 September 12 2:03 pm
    [210]
    drdog09 permalink

    I would guess somewhere between 50 to 1 and 100 to 1.

    The important question is what percentage wanted to bring pitchforks, tar and feathers.

  206. 2009 September 12 2:12 pm
    [211]
    TLS permalink

    I have to give WaPo credit here, they pretty much used this entire article to quote a number of protestors, letting them define the event today in their own words. Good idea.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/12/AR2009091200971_pf.html

  207. 2009 September 12 2:15 pm
    [212]

    For everyone there I would guess at least 75 feel the same way,which in effect makes the “crowd” much larger from a political impact perspective. IMHO

  208. 2009 September 12 2:15 pm
    [213]

    How are all the people going to go to the bathroom????

  209. 2009 September 12 2:18 pm
    [214]

    How are all the people going to go to the bathroom????

    Not all at once I hope.

  210. 2009 September 12 2:26 pm
    [215]
    JustMary permalink

    I really hope all of our new posters will join us at 4 for poetry night! I have already started writing some, so the theme of Draining the Swamp sticks! :P

  211. 2009 September 12 2:27 pm
    [216]
    JustMary permalink

    You would think they would have porta potties there.

  212. 2009 September 12 2:30 pm
    [217]
    drdog09 permalink

    They probably have the new visitor center open for such purposes. I hope every one of those marches walked by Harry Reids’ office just so they could stink up the place!

  213. 2009 September 12 2:44 pm
    [218]

    They can just go where they are standing, as the regular residents there, wouldn’t know the difference.

  214. 2009 September 12 2:48 pm
    [219]

    so the theme of Draining the Swamp sticks~~JM

    What if one wanders a bit from the theme :?:

    Only so much can be said about a swamp. Or llamas

  215. 2009 September 12 2:48 pm
    [220]
    JustMary permalink

    heh #218

  216. 2009 September 12 2:49 pm
    [221]
    JustMary permalink

    Wandering from the theme will not cost you any imaginary points, IP.

  217. 2009 September 12 2:49 pm
    [222]
    JustMary permalink

    Swamp=Congress

  218. 2009 September 12 3:48 pm
    [224]
    aureliusx permalink

    2 million march on washington.

    the current CNN headline is…

    wait for it…

    “Thousands honor 2 killed in California wildfire”

    guess they got flak for their previous headline, which was a random snippet from Obama’s weekly address.

    They probably calculated this would be the headline most likely to disarm conservatives.

    I obviously have no problem honoring those firefighters.

    But 2 million marching on washington?

    vs thousands honoring firemen?

    Shameless, manipulative fraudsters.

    Evil and corrupt.

  219. 2009 September 12 3:55 pm
    [225]
    mpthompson permalink

    NRO’s Corner take on the Tea Party.

  220. 2009 September 12 3:57 pm
    [226]
    JustMary permalink

    Another interesting detail about the march — it was filled with immigrants. I’m pretty sure every Cuban in a thousand mile radius was there, helpfully explaining to everyone who would listen that Cuba’s vaunted free health care system involves shoddily trained doctors and bringing your own linen to the hospital. I also spoke to angry immigrants from England and Ireland, appalled the country was slouching toward socialized medicine.

    God Bless them.

  221. 2009 September 12 4:03 pm
    [227]
    drdog09 permalink

  222. 2009 September 12 4:44 pm
    [228]
    brucefdb permalink

    Wow, there is no reference on my Yahoo home page to the DC rally. But there is a picture of the Marxist at a rally warning opponents of his bill. God, what shameless charlatans.

  223. 2009 September 12 5:18 pm
    [229]
    justrand permalink

    brucefdb, I switched to BING this weekend. I am through with Yahoo FOREVER!

  224. 2009 September 12 8:09 pm
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