Another Unintentionally Hilarious Senate Assessment By Charlie Cook

2009 September 30
by MFG

Trying to get his fellow Communists to see what’s going to happen to them in 2010 and beyond…

HT: National Journal Online

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  1. 2009 September 30 5:30 pm
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    conservativetony permalink

    This could be really something if the GOP can get its act together.

    The Senate seats up in next year’s midterm elections are evenly split, with 19 on each side. But in 2012, Democrats have 23 seats at risk (counting Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.) compared to only nine for the GOP. In 2014, it’s 20 Democrats up, to only 13 for Republicans.

  2. 2009 September 30 6:07 pm
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    mpthompson permalink

  3. 2009 September 30 6:15 pm
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    JustMary permalink

    That is a big if, CT. Here’s hopin! It isn’t as though they lack the base, they just need to act on the momentum!

  4. 2009 September 30 6:23 pm
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    conservativetony permalink

    JM

    Its going to start (on the GOP side) soon enough. I don’t have a list compiled, but there are some of the more Liberals Republican incumbents who are being challenged by those more on the Conservative side.

  5. 2009 September 30 6:40 pm
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    justrand permalink

    Like I been sayin’: 2010 is THE battle we must win! Even if we don’t re-take either House of congress, just making it less “Obama Friendly” may give us some breathing room!

    Me and Mrs. Justrand are only going to contribute to specific candidates next year…for the House and Senate. No more RINOs.

  6. 2009 September 30 8:09 pm
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    rightwingyahoo permalink

    We have to take the house back, we simply must have it at a minimum. No stopping the communists if we don’t.

    We can do it, I think.

  7. 2009 September 30 9:00 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    The Dims got problems. No win either way. If they do get HC passed then the populace will be unforgiving. If they don’t get HC passed then the leftier wing of the Dims will probably be in full revolt. Most likely to not show up for the 2010 election at all.

    A nasty foreign event on top of HC passing would probably seal for the independents. That stupid stunt by the Florida Dim did not help any either.

  8. 2009 September 30 9:06 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Here is THE question for the Dims. At what date does the HC effort become so toxic that they have to drop it?

    Look I still hold out that the Dims will not get a HC bill passed this year. Even with Dingy Harry canceling recess its still not cooked in the Senate. If that happens, it carries over to next year. But every month that HC is an open sore is one step closer to affecting election results. At some point the majority leadership has to shelve it or it ends up THE election issue of 2010.

  9. 2009 September 30 9:11 pm
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    “If they do get HC passed then the populace will be unforgiving. ”

    Not in the mass needed till 2013 though when this garbage takes effect, dipchit will run in2012 saying see we passed it and the world didn’t end…. (yet).

    “No more RINOs.” – as for money 4 sure, just remember your not going to retake crap without at least a decent % of the new blood ending up as cino’s let alone rino’s, I don’t like it either but that is the environment we live in at the moment.

  10. 2009 September 30 9:27 pm
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    “At what date does the HC effort become so toxic that they have to drop it?”

    I thought we were there like a month ago…. apparently they are wearing kryptonite protection suits, or at least they believe they are.

  11. 2009 September 30 9:34 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

  12. 2009 September 30 9:37 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    I thought we were there like a month ago…. apparently they are wearing kryptonite protection suits, or at least they believe they are. — KH

    Could be, I don’t know.

    The other thing I keep mulling over is why the Senate side waited so late to get things rolling? The House had been working on their bits since before O won the nomination. Guess they wanted to see if the House would even agree on something?

  13. 2009 September 30 10:49 pm
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    Harry wanted Mrs. Piggy and the Messiah to make the first move and run cover in August, things didn’t go as expected\planned. ;)

  14. 2009 September 30 11:25 pm
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    A former Guantanamo detainee has reportedly been killed in a shootout between the Yemeni Army and Houthi rebels in northern Yemen. The former detainee, Fahd Saleh Suleiman al Jutayli, was captured in Pakistan after fleeing the Tora Bora Mountains in 2001. He was repatriated to his native Saudi Arabia in May 2006.

    According to the Yemen Post, two other former Gitmo detainees – Yusuf al Shehri and Othman al Ghamdi – called their families to tell them Jutayli had been killed in the fighting and asked them to inform Jutayli’s family.

    Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/09/former_gitmo_detaine.php#ixzz0Sf9mCPSf

  15. 2009 September 30 11:31 pm
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    OT again:

    The US is also considering switching from a counterinsurgency-based strategy in Afghanistan, which focuses on securing the Afghan people and building up the government and military, to a counterterrorism-based strategy that focuses on covert raids and airstrikes against al Qaeda in Pakistan. This potential strategy shift is meeting resistance from circles within the US military and the intelligence communities, who while supportive of the present air campaign in Pakistan, warn that the tactic has limited use in dismantling al Qaeda and believe that such a strategy would destabilize Pakistan and lead to a Taliban takeover of much of Afghanistan.

    Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/10/analysis_us_airstrik.php#ixzz0SfALzpVc

    Be great if while “considering ” this option maybe the president might oh I don’t know read the report and request from the guy he put in charge on the ground over there on the matter and maybe have chat? Nah, what a crazy thought.

  16. 2009 September 30 11:46 pm
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    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Guys and Gals of BJG – NEWSFLASH!!!!!

    Obama and the left WILL NEVER DROP THE SO-CALLED HC REFORM UNLESS THERE ARE LITERALLY NEAR RIOTING IN THE STREETS!

    Translation – there has to be a clear clear 60% – 70% opposition in the polls – particularly, SRs need to be 3-1 or 4-1 against and right now they are only 2-1 against

    Obama and left are winning make no mistake about that

    Some attention is being paid now to the key target – the Individual Mandate but unless something really shakes things up in the next week to really set it on fire it will be to little too late

    The left and Obama see HC as a long term investment in leftist/socialist electorial control in this country

    When the subsidy checks start going out in 2013 and beyond they will increasingly grow dependency and add more more government employees to adminster the FED HC regulation and dole

    They are more then willinig to piss away 2010 and even 2012 elections if they have too

    they know once HC is under the Federal control it will never be repealed

    If these people were normal Clinton POLs it would have been dropped or real bipartisan talks would have started a month ago

    Nope, this will happen unless there is a near revolt in the next 1-4 weeks

  17. 2009 October 1 1:14 am
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    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Andrews Quote of the Day:

    “Whether politicians, bloggers or simply arguing for our beliefs, we must resist the urge to take the easy route and appease the public. No matter how uncomfortable it is to argue for people’s rights to do stupid things, we must do just that. When the authoritarians want to increase their power, they don’t attack the likable, they don’t ask to regulate grandmothers, veterans and kittens, they go after smokers, drugs addicts, pornographers and the political fringe. However, uncomfortable as it is, we must stand up for the worst among us. We don’t need to stand up for them, we don’t need to say they are worthy of praise, but we do need to explain that they have the right to do what they do.

    Even more difficult, when a “crisis” arises, and the left begins to advocate for a “fix”, be it the “gasoline crisis” of last year or the “health care crisis” of today, we need to resist the call to “present our own solution” and instead make it clear that the state is not here to fix everything. Just as it is not the role fo an auto mechanic to cure cancer or a doctor to get your DVD player to work, it is not the purpose of government to be a panacea. It will be uncomfortable to say so, as the public has been trained to see the politicians as the cure for all ills, but that is only because no one has argued against the idea. Once someone does, and makes their case,t eh public may begin to catch on, to see that there is a tool for every job, and that government is not the Swiss Army knife of life, curing every imaginable problem.

    And if we continue to do that, if we can finally convince the public to accept that maybe government is a problem as often as it is the solution, maybe the pressure on politicians will change. maybe they will find themselves being confronted by people saying “keep out of our business” as often as “save me from myself”, and, if that happens, sooner or later those politicians won’t find it quite so hard to stand up for their small government principles, and maybe even make it through reelection challenges with their beliefs intact.”

    Alot of conservatives and Repulicans had better heed this advice – I heard on talk shows every day how supposedly conservative people are supporting the Individual Mandate because they think that it will “make people pay their fair share”

  18. 2009 October 1 2:00 am
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    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

  19. 2009 October 1 4:25 am
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    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Conservatives and the GOP are missing an opportunity to expose Democratic inconsistencies on the Individual Mandate. Now that they need Trillions to fund their Health Care takeover, they are MUST have the tax revenue that the Individual Mandates would bring in with the fines, Insurance Taxes, etc.

    Well, guess who didn’t support AND viciously attacked supporters of Individual Mandates during last years Democratic primaries?

    I you said President Obama and VP Biden, give yourself an A!

    And the Individual Mandate should be an easy target for conservatives and the GOP to attack since President Obama has done a huge 180 from his campaign promises!

    Here is a great article by James Joyner about just how vigorous his opposition to Individual Mandates used to be:

    http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc…ance_mandates/

    From the mouth of then Candidate Obama:

    “If you look at auto insurance, in California there’s mandatory auto insurance,” Obama explained. “Twenty-five percent of the folks don’t have it. The reason is because they can’t afford it. So John and I, we’re not that different in this sense; that I’m committed to starting the process. Everybody who wants it can buy it and it’s affordable. If we have some gaps remaining, we will work on that. You take it from the opposite direction, but you’re still going to have some folks who aren’t insured under your plan, John, because some of them will simply not be able to afford to buy the coverage they’re offered.”

    Can we see some flip-flop adds please? The debate where he said this is on Video – why isn’t this on Fox, commercials, etc and juxtaposed to his current statements where he literally gushes over in his praise for using government force to compel you to buy a private product against your will?

    Here is a link to the video with a great critic by President Obama himself on why the Individual Mandates are BAD:

    http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.co…l#comment-form

    These individual mandates are a huge tax increase on the young and healthy to pay for the uninsured. They violate your liberties and are unconstitutional. As a candidate, President Obama rightly and sensibly was on the correct side of this issue when he correctly opposed the Individual Mandate.

    The American people have a right to know why he changed his position on this so suddenly.

    Is it because he needs trillions of your dollars in new taxes to pay for the uninsured?

    Is it because he wants to compel everyone to participate in his federal government dominate insurance market so that Washington politicians can control your medical care and insurance choices?

    Or is it because he has cut a backroom deal with the largest and richest insurance companies in this country to give them millions of new customers in exchange for their support of his plan?

    If his plan will really, truly give us cheaper private insurance and more choices, why do people have to be forced to participate on penalty of law?

    We deserve an straight answer and need to ask the media and our elected representatives to demand one now.

    This video needs to be shown in the conservative media and President Obama needs to be called out for his Flip-flop on Individual Mandates until we get a honest answer!

  20. 2009 October 1 10:42 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    “And if we continue to do that, if we can finally convince the public to accept that maybe government is a problem as often as it is the solution, maybe the pressure on politicians will change. maybe they will find themselves being confronted by people saying “keep out of our business” as often as “save me from myself”, and, if that happens, sooner or later those politicians won’t find it quite so hard to stand up for their small government principles, and maybe even make it through reelection challenges with their beliefs intact.”

    This now is a major falsehood. The CongressCritters face the ‘keep out of our business’ daily. They ignore it because that is not where the stronger voices are being heard. The CongressCritters are listening to the NGO’s and corporations because of two things — money and legislative help.

    Think about it. Do you think those bozos on Capital Hill are mentally capable of writing a Crap and Tax bill? Of course not. They have the Apollo Alliance, GE and others writing the bills. Another words authorship of legislation has been outsourced to the highest bidder. Its the largest scandal this country has faced and nobody even talks about it.

  21. 2009 October 1 10:45 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    To finish my thought.

    We should not be asking ‘did you read the bill?’. We should be asking ‘Did you author the bill? If you did not, who did?’

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