The Mask Comes Off
2009 September 27
Simply amazing
From the Washington Times
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well, it wasn’t much of a mask to begin with
the question was never: “WILL they cover illegals??”
It was always: “Will they finesse it, or simply jam it down our throats??”
Looks like they’re leaning towards the jam down approach!
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Oh but Joe Wilson was so wrong for calling Obama out for telling a lie. Sure, he was lying…..but to call him a liar? That is just wrong.
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This is just politic posturing by the left – they will drop it and make a big show of compromising on it like they are reasonable
the amnesty bill coming up early next year will make all 15-20 million illegals resident/citizens/voters overnight anyways so they can write the strictest languauge they want prohibiting illegals – it wont filipping matter
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Wylie E. Coyote, I think the instant flipping of 15-20 million illegals into voters and ObamaCare participants is exactly what they have in mind. I think if the the American people SUSPECT that is gonna happen they will finally rise up! Therefore I think the Obama Regime’s primary concernt will be keeping the American people from suspecting!
Hey, what’s Chavez doing these days???
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When are the poor and those in the minority gonna wake up and realize they are being freaking used? The left does not give 2 $#@%$ about them! They just want the votes. Neither Obama daughter will probably ever go to school with an illegal child or share the same hospital (and lets not get into Michelle Obama’s patient dumping!). They won’t compete for jobs with them, or have to worry about a drunk illegal crashing into their car (O’s vehicles are armored, yanno). Talk about disconnect. Obama wants the votes, and could care less about those of us bearing the costs.
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JM, if after 50 years of the war on poverty they haven’t woken up yet I’m fairly certain it just isn’t going to happen. The whole Acorn scandal just shows who really has their boot on the throats of the lower class within our society.
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Chavez? Smelling hope at the UN last I saw him lol
Maybe working uranium deals with Iran
working on gettting zedyla back in power in honduras
Plenty of hope n change in Venuzula lol
yeah, the left is throwing out plenty of diversions on this hc thing; this illegal ploy is just one of them, the euthiansia thing is another – the real death panel is the whole freakin system, the government option the biggest head fake
i bet a trillion chinese borrowed dollars that the final cramdown will look alot like wyden-bennett or bacus minus coops
i has to – those are the deals cut in the spring
if i was a real tin foil hatter i would say everything we are seeing is carefully scripted political theater for the stupid – it all has been worked out before hand
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“Legal permanent residents should be able to purchase their plans, and they should also be eligible for subsidies if they need it. Undocumented, if they can afford it, should be able to buy their own private plans. It keeps them out of the emergency room,” said Rep. Michael M. Honda, California Democrat and chairman of the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus.
What the heck is this guy smoking? If you are a LPR then you would be forced into a plan as the LPR made an agreement to abide by all laws as a condition of their presence here. An illegal alien is a whole different kettle of fish.
But a wry observation if I may. The Dims are really really really stupid. Were I writing the HC bill I would specifically add language that says illegals shall not be eligible. Really tough language. Fact I would have my buddies in the ACLU write that section. Tighter than any conservative would write. “See its right here in Sec. xxxx.” Everybody goes to sleep on the issue. The HC Act is now law. The ACLU goes to court, challenges Sec xxxx. Court concurs (14th Amend, and a long list of precedence.) We go from they were not covered to now they are. The Pols have their cover, and the ACLU does all the dirty work as usual.
ARR #11
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Nobody has any ‘right’ to health-care or health-insurance.
If health-care and health-insurance were rights given to each American at birth, then we would expect that each and every citizen to have care that is equal in all aspects–either we all get the same crappy health-care or we all get mediocre care or we all get top-notch health-care.
After all, since we are a nation of equals, no one person, group or entity is more equal than others, right?
Ok, I’m I am being sarcastic.
With the left, equality only works when they take something from somebody who has it and give it to somebody who doesn’t. So, instead of Obama, or Pelosi or Reid having access to the best health-care in the world, with equal health-care for all, they should be required to use worst health-care in the country–which is probably the government-run health care facilities the US has so kindly gifted to the Indian reservations.
After all, if it’s good enough for “America’s First Citizens”, then it should be good enough for members of Congress.
However, this is real life and in real life, we get what we pay for. And we want the best health-care that we can afford and are willing to pay for.
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As to non-citizens obtaining health-care and -insurance, I really don’t care. They have a right to purchase anything that is legal for them to “own” just as long as they are doing it with their own funds. If a health-insurance business thinks they can make money by selling to non-citizens, residing in other countries, then have at it.
Basically, its a Liberal quandary: Tell the illegals to leave the country first. After that, we will find a company that is willing to sell them health-insurance. They can see the doctor whenever they want, but will have to pass throught the border guard every time they want to see the doctor. When they are finished seeing the doctor, they must immediately return to their own country.
After all, if health-care is so important to them, this is a fair trade-off.
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if i was a real tin foil hatter i would say everything we are seeing is carefully scripted political theater for the stupid – it all has been worked out before hand
Of course it is! A CongressCritter won’t take a crap without a lobbyist providing the toilet paper and a NGO there to wipe their respective asses with it.
But it goes deeper now. American law is no longer written by representatives, but contracted out to special interests then cobbled together to look pretty. That is pretty freaking dangerous.
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jm – the poor are stuck in the worst govt schools in the world, they dont get taught critical thinking skills they need to fiqure out what is going on or to get the hell out. They are taught propaganda and how to envy.
they get bought off by government checks – they are just acting rationally and voting in their economic best interest as we do
i mean, if they get say 500 a week in government handouts why take a job for 600 a week, do all that work, and have to give up the benefits? Essentially, you would be working for 100 a week – the other 500 you get for doing nothing
of course, minimum wage laws, unions, etc reinforce this situation
they get feed a steady diet of propaganda about racism, big companys, etc conspiring to keep them down – essentially they are told not to look at their own actions as to their plight but simply to blame external enemies
this is why conservatives and R need to get some canidates other then business types and lawyers who can talk to people – the actual tragic damage done to minorities and the poor expose the left’s hollow rehtoric for the ideology of death that it is
on another note, did you get my 3x emails for suggested posts at BJG? I hope they didnt get spammed again lol
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#9 Of course HC is not a “right” – rights are inherent as a condition of humanity as endowned by our creator ie a condition of humanity – life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is the most basic example
unless you believe in the institution of slavery, there can be no right to HC as some person has to choose to become a doctor, nurse, build an MRI, invent a drug, build a hospital etc – no one is born into or magically appears in the hc field as a matter off course on the planet earth
so next time one of these yahoos are screaming “HC now!” or “I have a RIGHT to HC DUDE!”
ask them if they support slavery because that is what they are advocating – one man works, another unjustly appropriates that benefit with no corresponding return
now if we in a society choose to give away health care as a matter of charity, that is a different matter
if its charity by force thru the government, i question the Constitutionality of it at the Federal level – it should be a matter for the various states to det’m
in the new so-called HC reform, the scheme to Nationalize all HC thru quasi-private Health Insurance companies is of vary dubious constitutional legality IMHO – the Individual Mandate that allow the fed govt to force you to buy a private product has no basis in the Constitution
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Wylie,
I’m sorta just skimming over your post because I’m drowsy. I was up early this morning. I’ll reread it tomorrow morning and respond then.
gn all.
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#8 – Your good, thank the heavens your on this side of the fence.
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Youth unemployment 50+% – NYPost
Seems to me just a few years ago we were hearing how bad this was for a couple other nations that had rates this high, but barely any talk of this when it comes to our own.
Mmm mmm mmm
Barack Hussein Obama
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average weeks on unemployment 1970-present
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/assets_c/2009/09/MedianWeeksUnempl.php
Eek
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KH, 14, Thx. 16, that is a killer graphic. Were on what? Round 4 or is it 5 of unemployment extensions?
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Nanny State rolls on. Grandmother arrested on meth suspicions. Be careful with that cold medicine folks!
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I think 4 on the extensions, I could be wrong though.