Insurance Industry Takes on Health Care

2009 October 13
by bc3b

The battle over health care faces a crucial vote in the Senate. Senators to watch are Blanche Lincoln (D-AR), Mary Landrieu (D-LA) and Olympia Snowe (RINO-ME).

But on the eve of the crucial test for the US president’s top domestic policy priority, the White House and the health insurance industry descended into open conflict.

Mr Obama has promised to reform the US health care system, asserting that all Americans are entitled to insurance coverage, that costs must be cut significantly to reduce soaring federal debt and that private insurers must be prevented from denying coverage or dropping it when a person becomes seriously ill.

As the Senate Finance Committee prepares to vote on the $829 billion (£535 billion), 10-year plan, the powerful US health insurance lobby has launched a late bid to thwart the measure.

A study by auditors PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) for the insurance lobby warned that the bill before the committee would hike projected cost rises per family by $1,700 (£1,075) in four years, and by $4,000 in the next decade.

The America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) lobby group, which commissioned the report, argued that new taxes on health insurance plans, medical device manufacturers and pharmaceutical giants would pass on extra costs to consumers.

Full article.

Hat tip: Telegraph (UK)

53 Responses leave one →
  1. 2009 October 13 8:15 am
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    bc3b permalink

    Was the insurance industry report too little, too late?

    There are rumors on FreeRepublic.com that Olympia Snowe stated on Fox News that she does not believe teh insurance industry numbers.

    Would Olympia Snowe stab Republicans in the back? Nah!

  2. 2009 October 13 8:21 am
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    mpthompson permalink

    Hot damn! I’ll have to slip a little extra into the next premium payment. Better than giving to the feckless RNC.

  3. 2009 October 13 8:22 am
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    janzam permalink

    The America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) lobby group, which commissioned the report, argued that new taxes on health insurance plans, medical device manufacturers and pharmaceutical giants would pass on extra costs to consumers.

    Duh!

    Is this too little too late? Maybe. But, it does put a little run in the HC stocking. I just don’t see, though, how these claims can be totally ignored, as they are deduced in such a pragmatic way.

    Also, if I heard correctly, the insurance threatened to take this to the public, through an ad campaign, informing them of the financial consequences of Congress’s HC proposals.

  4. 2009 October 13 8:27 am
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    janzam permalink

    Would Olympia Snowe stab Republicans in the back? Nah!

    How Snowe will vote George Stephanopoulos

  5. 2009 October 13 8:30 am
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    phineas gage permalink

    I think the insurance companies and healthcare corporations have woken up to the fact that they were being suckered by the marxist.

    Have they woken up too late? Probably.

    When is the vote?

  6. 2009 October 13 8:33 am
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    phineas gage permalink

    Let her vote yes and then get her ass voted out of office. Let the idiots of Maine elect two regular Dims, which they will.

    I’m sick to death of these grandstanding RINOs preening for media adulation.

    Let’s get things straight, with conservatives representing red states and lunatic Dims from the blue states. And let the chips fall where they may.

  7. 2009 October 13 8:37 am
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    phineas gage permalink

    O/T–this is so insaaaaane!!

    When I was a kid, a lot of boys carried pocket knives, many had the multi-faceted Swiss army variety and proudly showed them off. And yes, many were proud members of Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts.

    What the h@#$ is going on?

    It’s the new school era—-mmmmmm,mmmmmm,mmmmmm.

  8. 2009 October 13 8:39 am
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    justrand permalink

    I agree with PG. Snowe, Collins, Graham, et al are walking “Potemkin Villages”, trotted out by the media whenever they need to tack the word “Bi-Partisan” onto something and/or when they need to dampen opposition.

    The lines need to be drawn more cleanly. And it’ll make the cutting up of the country into seperate nations easier when/if it comes to that.

  9. 2009 October 13 8:41 am
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    phineas gage permalink

    Informal poll: which will be the most popular Halloween mask this year?

    a. the marxist
    b. the wookie
    c. Pelosi
    d. Reid
    e. other

  10. 2009 October 13 8:43 am
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    beej permalink

    e. other. I heard yesterday Madoff masks were sort of hot.

  11. 2009 October 13 8:47 am
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    mpthompson permalink

    Watch it guys, MFG will be here any minute to tell us how we need all the RINOs.

  12. 2009 October 13 8:48 am
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    “Was the insurance industry report too little, too late?”

    Perhaps but I think they were waiting a) for when obama was weaker, but most of all they didn’t want to shoot thier wad too early based on some proposals that could be easily changed, now that things actually start to solidify (and use that term very loosely since there is a vote today without actual legislation ?wft? ?wtf? sigh) they fell it’s time to go on the attack.

    bi-partisan coming out of the mouth of the left 9 out of 10 times means “this republican gives up and rolls over to my position”.

  13. 2009 October 13 8:49 am
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    bc3b permalink

    JR –

    You forgot John McCain, the greatest RINO of them all. McCain was condemning Joe Wilson for his “you lie” outburst as soon as possible. McCain and the networks are always seeking each other out,

  14. 2009 October 13 8:52 am
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    They don’t need snowe’s vote to pass this cluster foxtrot.

  15. 2009 October 13 8:56 am
    [15]
    fedupartist permalink

    Tentative Inspection Program Would Allow Russia to Visit U.S. Nuclear Sites

    The plan, which Fox News has learned was agreed to in principle during negotiations, would constitute the most intrusive weapons inspection program the U.S. has ever accepted.

    FOXNews.com

  16. 2009 October 13 9:07 am
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    bc3b permalink

    o/t – Yesterday there was some discussion about members of the GOP Establishment becoming involved with Pawlenty. Here’s an article on that from The Hill:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/62733-mccain-team-gets-behind-tim-pawlenty

    I believe he is the RINO back-up for when Mitt falters.

    Hopefully TPaw and Mitt will destroy one another in the early primaries.

  17. 2009 October 13 9:12 am
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    #15 – Major Twilightzone alert. w000p wooop wooop

    This administration through it’s combined actions or lack there seems to be house shopping in the neighborhood of treason, they’re looking just haven’t bought yet.

  18. 2009 October 13 9:33 am
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    janzam permalink

    O/T Another Obama quasi-move….

    We Aren’t Fooled
    October 13, 2009 – 10:31 AM
    Today’s Washington Post explains that Obama is sending 13,000 more troops to Afghanistan:

    But in an unannounced move, the White House has also authorized — and the Pentagon is deploying — at least 13,000 troops beyond that number, according to defense officials.
    The additional troops are primarily support forces, including engineers, medical personnel, intelligence experts and military police.

    These “additional troops” are a red herring and a diversion. General McChrystal has asked for 40,000 combat troops.

    13,000 does not equal 40,000.

    Support troops do not equal combat troops.

    We are not fooled.

    President Obama, you either support the troops, or you support your left-wing base.

    Pick a side, no voting present!

    H/T wizbang

  19. 2009 October 13 9:34 am
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    MI Conservative permalink

    If I was Lincoln and Landrieu I would vote the bill out of committee with a yes. Then gage public reaction back home.
    They can always say “I’ve heard the voters” when it comes up in the whole Senate and then vote no. By doing this they are playing it safe and it would make them look better back in their home state cinvincing their voters that they truly care and listen.

  20. 2009 October 13 9:36 am
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    MI Conservative permalink

    But remember-I’m an over-educated idiot.

  21. 2009 October 13 9:39 am
    [21]
    janzam permalink

    The truth about the Bacus Bill Washington Examiner link

    H/T Instapundit

  22. 2009 October 13 9:43 am
    [22]
    janzam permalink

    Another new website with Liz Chaney and Bill Kristol as two of its board members.

    Keep America Safe Link

    H/T Red State

  23. 2009 October 13 9:49 am
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    justrand permalink

    janzam, I’m gonna check out the Keep America Safe site…might be a good ally for us here! thx

  24. 2009 October 13 9:53 am
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    justrand permalink

    apparently Lieberman went on the new Imus show (FoxBusiness) this morning and indicated he is going to OPPOSE the Baucus bill. Good for him. Doesn’t mean he’s on our side…just that he may help keep this from a full vote.

    as an aside…why Lieberman still even TALKS to the Dems is beyond me. They did everything but literally shoot him to keep him from being re-elected.

  25. 2009 October 13 10:00 am
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    janzam permalink

    As I see it Lieberman is a life-long dim. Even though his ideology doesn’t always match the dims, sometimes it is just plain hard to change one’s identity to another party.

  26. 2009 October 13 10:03 am
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    beej permalink

    Listening to Rush on KFI in California. Their news just announced Olympia is voting yes.

  27. 2009 October 13 10:04 am
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    fedupartist permalink

    And people think the GOP winning in 10 or 12 will save this country.

    LOL

    It’s

    over

    folks.

  28. 2009 October 13 10:04 am
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    justrand permalink

    janzam: “sometimes it is just plain hard to change one’s identity to another party.”

    tell that to Arlen Sphincter! 👿

  29. 2009 October 13 10:04 am
    [29]
    beej permalink

    surprise surprise surprise. shock gasp choke.

  30. 2009 October 13 10:17 am
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    MFG permalink

    I wouldn’t count on Landrieu’s vote, since she just got re-elected

    But I still don’t think these bastards get to 60 to pass this thing

  31. 2009 October 13 10:19 am
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    janzam permalink

    Snowe is a moran!

  32. 2009 October 13 10:22 am
    [32]
    fedupartist permalink

    But I still don’t think these bastards get to 60 to pass this thing

    They only need 51.

  33. 2009 October 13 10:25 am
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    MFG permalink

    Too late for reconciliation

  34. 2009 October 13 10:25 am
    [34]
    janzam permalink

    moran —-> moron!

  35. 2009 October 13 10:33 am
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    JustMary permalink

    She is a moron no matter which way you spell it, Jan. 😆

    Who didn’t see that coming. She is a turncoat.

  36. 2009 October 13 10:33 am
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    justrand permalink

    Snowe is a full fledged MAROON! 🙂

    Snowe, Collins (and their RINO ilk) are the reason I don’t even answer the phone for the National Republican Party funding calls. Because ultimately THEY get money that could have gone to others who ARE reliable. Instead I only contribute to specific candidates these days.

    p.s. is the “Reconciliation Option” closed??

  37. 2009 October 13 10:42 am
    [37]

    apparently Lieberman went on the new Imus show (FoxBusiness) this morning and indicated he is going to OPPOSE the Baucus bill. jarhead

    He’sprobably holding out for something with a stronger public option.

  38. 2009 October 13 11:08 am
    [38]
    bc3b permalink

    “Snowe, Collins (and their RINO ilk) are the reason I don’t even answer the phone for the National Republican Party funding calls. Because ultimately THEY get money that could have gone to others who ARE reliable. Instead I only contribute to specific candidates these days.”

    Smart move, JR. We need to get all conservatives to follow this philosophy.

    The only way we will get the GOP establishment to listen to them is if we cut off the funding.

  39. 2009 October 13 11:10 am
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    bc3b permalink

    ip –

    “He’sprobably holding out for something with a stronger public option.”

    Lieberman is only on our side when it comes to what was formerly called the “War on Terror.”

  40. 2009 October 13 11:15 am
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    Is anyone still under the illusion that this thing WON’T pass ❓ ❓

  41. 2009 October 13 11:21 am
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    janzam permalink

    I think Snown’s vote may embolden other weak-kneed dims (blue dogs and moderates) to go along on her coattails and vote their party line.

    This was the major problem with Snowe voting the way she did, IMHO.

    Therefore, I think HC has gained strength in passing, much to my chagrin and dismay.

  42. 2009 October 13 11:21 am
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    justrand permalink

    nope, it’ll pass and will greatly accelerate the “Fundamental Transformation” of this country into Cuba.

  43. 2009 October 13 11:37 am
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    MFG permalink

    You’ll never get 60 and the deadline for reconciliation is October 15th

  44. 2009 October 13 11:46 am
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    janzam permalink

    I didn’t know there was a deadline! The 15th is only 2 days away! hmmmm….It’s still possible though, MFG. Pass it out of the committee today, and then jam it through the Senate in 24 hrs.

  45. 2009 October 13 11:49 am
    [45]
    MFG permalink

    They’ll never get to 60

  46. 2009 October 13 12:05 pm
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    reggie1971 permalink

    This is indeed a very sad day for America. It will take something extraordinary to prevent the destruction of the best health care system in the world, not to mention the means by which a gargantuan nanny-state will emerge. Essentially what we are seeing is the end of American exceptionalism. This is absolutely terrible.

  47. 2009 October 13 12:06 pm
    [47]
    phineas gage permalink

    I’m not so sure.

    I never thought America would elect a marxist president.

  48. 2009 October 13 12:08 pm
    [48]
    phineas gage permalink

    The ship has been underwater and sinking steadily for some time.

    What we are now witnessing is the phenomenon where the critical depth point is reached and the accumulated pressure implodes and crumples the vessel like a tin can.

    And we are all trapped inside that sinking vessel.

  49. 2009 October 13 12:16 pm
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    beej permalink

    What happens now?

  50. 2009 October 13 12:17 pm
    [50]
    beej permalink

    besides the sinking and crumpling, I mean.

  51. 2009 October 13 12:24 pm
    [51]
    phineas gage permalink

    We prepare for some very very bad times.

    Who knows after that?

  52. 2009 October 13 10:38 pm
    [52]

    “is sending 13,000 more troops to Afghanistan:”

    The missing 13,000 that were requested in February btw..

  53. 2009 October 13 10:40 pm
    [53]

    Sounds like Lieberman may actually want to be re-elected.

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