“He was guilty of nothing, except that he earned his own fortune and never forgot that it was his.“ The concept contained within that phrase is what has set America apart, and made her the greatest nation on Earth. And it is the systematic attack on that concept, that this website is dedicated to fighting. This website is NOT devoted to making people “wealthy”, but rather to fighting the notion that the “wealth” they DO have needs to be “redistributed”.
Deeds didn’t listen to the White House and follow the Dem plan to win. Obama tried to tell him but he wouldn’t listen.
Furthermore the right wing nuts lied about health care and Acorn and we couldn’t fight their scandalous comments.
The swine Flu kept Dems home on election day.
The dog ate all the Dem Absentee ballots and the toaster burnt the rest.
Republican thugs kept Dems from voting in Dem areas.
I can’t help think back to Nov and Jan when the liberals and msm were busy saying the conservative movement and GOP was dead forever. They can never recover.
Dems will gain in 2010.
What a difference 10 months of Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Axelrod and Rahm can make!
“Gold prices on Tuesday surged to an all-time high after India’s central bank bought 200 tonnes of the precious metal, swapping dollars for bullion as the country’s finance minister warned the economies of the US and Europe had “collapsed”.”
(sorry totally ot)
Agreed (from earlier elect thread) that CA-10th will be very interesting: Perpetual Dem candidate (and professional governor wannabe) John Garamendi ought to win big in a heavily gerrymandered Dem district to replace commie appointee to Obama admin Ellen Tauscher. But upset may be brewing in low-turnout off-year election. I believe that Garamendi name-recognition will be outstripped by Garamendi overexposure and uberambition (her is a dude who undoubtedly preens as governor and potential POTUS in front of his bathroom mirror). GOP candidate David Harmer talks like an anti-Pelosi, smaller govt tax-cutter and has volunteer poll watchers at each voting precinct – sounds good to me.
Fox Exit Polls said whites voted 67-33 for Christie. Blacks 90% for Corzine.
If that is true it points out one of the saddest things: the Dems put the black race on the plantation with the Great Society in the 60’s, and they keep voting to keep themselves enslaved. That is truly sad. By the way, it is where the Dems want to put the rest of us too.
It’s an honor and a privilege to be associated with such fine patriots as yourselves. This will be the first election win for the anti-communists since I started blogging at Poli in 2007…..
Wow, Corzine down from 80 to 50 on Intrade! Might be a chance for our Big Boy after all! If Christie wins I am all in on a double cheeseburger and a dozen doughnuts for lunch tomorrow!
Death to the redistribution of wealth!
Death to open borders and amnesty!
Death to socialist medicine and carbon caps!
Death to the usurpers of the constitution!
RWY, screw the GOP. There seems to be enough spontaneous grassroots organization to get conservatives elected with or without the approval of the elites. It will be a long, long time before I trust the GOP with my donations again. I’ll certainly be donating to individual candidates and perhaps to Fred’s and Sarah’s PACs.
Harry: “I need your vote on HellCare”
Evan: “I’d prefer to get re-elected”
Harry: “President Obama needs your help”
Evan: “I can’t get re-elected supporting this ****”
Harry: “I’ll call you again tomorrow”
Evan: “Sure, Harry, whatever”
Yes, Barack will be shipping boatloads of Stimulus money to all blue states to that they can increase gubmint jobs…..but since they are also scum Dems they will probably spend it on SUVs for themselves.
The Franken strategy will be to introduce the absentees and provisionals in the morning, and the cadre of lawyers will hold a presser at noon denouncing the racist tactics of the Republicans (all 3 of them) in Camden and Newark.
Corzine will stand shoulder to shoulder with Jackson and Sharpton.
Cheeseburger in paradise
Medium rare with mustard ‘be nice
Heaven on earth with an onion slice
I’m just a cheeseburger in paradise
I like mine with lettuce and tomato
Heinz 57 and french fried potatoes
Big kosher pickle and a cold draft beer
Well good God Almighty which way do I steer for my
Cheeseburger in paradise
Makin’ the best of every virtue and vice
Worth every damn bit of sacrifice
To get a cheeseburger in paradise
To be a cheeseburger in paradise
I’m just a cheeseburger in paradise
Looks like NJ is playing out like expected. Guess my biggest surprise is Christie got an early lead and has held it. I thought if he won it, it would be as the comeback kid in the stretch.
Sean Trende at RealClearPolitics might have the most key revelation of the hour: “Corzine would have to carry the rest of the state with about 53 percent of the two-party vote in order to sweep the state. With most of the heavily Democrat areas half in, this seems unlikely.”
Hoffamn is down to 42%. I am starting to get scared. PPP, which gave him the huge leads in the polls, is a Dem-related organization and is not to be trusted.
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I make a prediction.
The USA is going to have a movement to the right tonight.
Shortly there after Obama is going to have a movement of his own.
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Prediction: We don’t know the final outcome tonight in NJ, it will be technically tomorrow or later before we know for sure.
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New Jersey not looking good
if you believe the money.
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We don’t need NJ going Dem tonight. Makes it easier for the commies to claim a wash.
NJ, is it curses, or praises?
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Intrade is clearly convinced Dem treachery will carry the day in NJ.
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first results
DEEDS 148 (25%)
MCDONNELL 454 (75%)
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Geraghty has called the Va race for the Rs for Governor, Lt Gov and Attorney General.
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Si, RWY, afraid the kneecappers are going to carry the day.
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Great news from Virginia then. No waiting and it will probably be a big margin to call that soon.
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However, The press has called elections early just to have to back track later on.
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DEEDS 2,967 (33%)
MCDONNELL 5,988 (67%)
1% reporting
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Excuse coming!
Deeds didn’t listen to the White House and follow the Dem plan to win. Obama tried to tell him but he wouldn’t listen.
Furthermore the right wing nuts lied about health care and Acorn and we couldn’t fight their scandalous comments.
The swine Flu kept Dems home on election day.
The dog ate all the Dem Absentee ballots and the toaster burnt the rest.
Republican thugs kept Dems from voting in Dem areas.
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66/34 4% in be great if it ended around 60/40 lol
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The media let bc3b use outspoken comments without letting the otherside rebut.
Posters at bejohngalt lied about Obama and his agenda.
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(via hhr)
From Save Jersey blog:
From a Democrat operative:
Corzine isn’t pulling nearly enough votes out of Northern Jersey, and turnout is 25% lower than expected in key Democrat districts.
Quote: “It’s bad. [Democrats] freaking out about the low turnout in Newark.”
Comment by Brandon — November 3, 2009 @ 7:31 pm
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Thanks for the info kh.
That map of VA is turning very red. Not too many counties Deeds will carry at this point.
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Go fat man! Go fat man! Help the country! Help the country! Go fat man! Go fat man!
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I can’t help think back to Nov and Jan when the liberals and msm were busy saying the conservative movement and GOP was dead forever. They can never recover.
Dems will gain in 2010.
What a difference 10 months of Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Axelrod and Rahm can make!
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Yeah though alot of early precints are gop strongholds
65/34 14% in probably end up like 58/40 once the D strongholds get factored in.
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Corzine slipping a bit at Intrade.
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http://www.politickernj.com/max/34766/newark-projected-numbers-fewer-2005-corzine
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only a couple more minutes to trade on intrade right?
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dont look now …
“Gold prices on Tuesday surged to an all-time high after India’s central bank bought 200 tonnes of the precious metal, swapping dollars for bullion as the country’s finance minister warned the economies of the US and Europe had “collapsed”.”
(sorry totally ot)
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Okay, the final RCP average had McDonnell at +13.
If he wins by 20 points, he over performed by 6 or 7.
Is it possible the same is true for NJ?
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yeah, my AU is up more than the stock market, shhh don’t tell JokeLeaf…
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Fox has called VA.
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It may not be 20… but 15+ looks quite possible right now.
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VA-AG\VA-LG looking to win by similar margins btw.
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You don’t get 20 point wins in state or national elections anymore. 15 is more than enough…..
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Yea, let’s not be greedy.
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We ‘ll win in NY23 too.
We need NJ since we will lose ca-10
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Agreed (from earlier elect thread) that CA-10th will be very interesting: Perpetual Dem candidate (and professional governor wannabe) John Garamendi ought to win big in a heavily gerrymandered Dem district to replace commie appointee to Obama admin Ellen Tauscher. But upset may be brewing in low-turnout off-year election. I believe that Garamendi name-recognition will be outstripped by Garamendi overexposure and uberambition (her is a dude who undoubtedly preens as governor and potential POTUS in front of his bathroom mirror). GOP candidate David Harmer talks like an anti-Pelosi, smaller govt tax-cutter and has volunteer poll watchers at each voting precinct – sounds good to me.
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Fox Exit Polls said whites voted 67-33 for Christie. Blacks 90% for Corzine.
If that is true it points out one of the saddest things: the Dems put the black race on the plantation with the Great Society in the 60’s, and they keep voting to keep themselves enslaved. That is truly sad. By the way, it is where the Dems want to put the rest of us too.
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That your district, boosh?
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Yes, 32, boosh, I am hoping CA-10 will be close. Even if it is single digits for the Dem it is a big win for us.
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No, but close we have stealth commie Sam Farr. Might be JustRand’s district?
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Mine is Suzanne Kosmos, Commie-FL, formerly Tom Feeney’s district. “KOS” being the operative syllable here…..
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She, and the neighboring lunatic Al-psycho-Grayson, will be out in 2010….fear not.
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If that 67% number holds up for fatso, he cannot lose.
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“Blacks 90% for Corzine.” – but we knew that months ago.
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What a magnificent win in VA!
Eat Hot Electoral Death, Communist Filth!!
WooooooooooooooooooooHoooooooooooo…!!!
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48% in… steady she goes
DEEDS 334,945 (39%)
MCDONNELL 519,552 (61%)
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I would like to see whites go 90% R, then watch as the media scream racism, while blacks going 90% for communists is shrugged at….
It would be funny to see, just to watch the media’s reac.
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No Tears of Joy tonight for VA Communists!!
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It’s an honor and a privilege to be associated with such fine patriots as yourselves. This will be the first election win for the anti-communists since I started blogging at Poli in 2007…..
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lol. Praps the epiphany has not been embraced by the damn partisans! lol.
!@#$#@ OL!
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What a humiliating and utterly disastrous defeat for Captain Bullshit in VA
TOTAL REPUDIATION of ObaCommunism!
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Wow, Corzine down from 80 to 50 on Intrade! Might be a chance for our Big Boy after all! If Christie wins I am all in on a double cheeseburger and a dozen doughnuts for lunch tomorrow!
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Ditto, yahoo #45
Been a long time coming
These filth have overreached and here come ‘da freight train!
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If we get the Trifecta I’m going to celebrate with a glass of wine
Haven’t had a drink since the night after Katrina…
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I have had an epiphany!
The country is repudiating ObaCommunism!!
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You must be mighty thirsty by now MFG. At least have an Evian.
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Christie takes the early lead. Ha
8519 61%
4019 29%
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Death to the redistribution of wealth!
Death to open borders and amnesty!
Death to socialist medicine and carbon caps!
Death to the usurpers of the constitution!
lol. Die commies Die! Where are you Mo?
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A 200,000 vote margin in VA with only HALF of the votes counted!!
What’s wrong with those bitter, clinging racists? Don’t they know they have to Embrace the Recovery…???
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it looks like ObamaCare took a huge hit today as well!!
gotta go watch results…back in a few!
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It’s really funny that the communists can’t run the country for ONE YEAR without the electorate hitting the panic button!
lol, the bastards!
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Where is Mo? Where is James TK?
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http://www.politickernj.com/matt-friedman/34770/webber-gop-had-best-gotv-operation-ever
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new jersey
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Bruce
LOL!
Coke Zero is my beverage of choice
Which has brought me down from looking like Christie to looking like an offensive lineman!
LOL!!
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What’s wrong with those bitter, clinging racists? Don’t they know they have to Embrace the Recovery…??? — MFG
Hard to grasp when you hands are double fisted around the 9mm trying to protect what you have….
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Hurray for fat people!!
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Talking about double fist, JR, where be our lovely JM???
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OL hollers that anyone who bought ammo is a traitor to the country. Then he says anyone who did not jump back in with both feet is a traitor.
Meanwhile, he weeps for a confessed Marxist and a crew of openly communist advisors.
He cheers government takeovers of a combined 40% of the economy.
He screams hallelujah! And threatens us for hoping the communists are defeated in 2010 and 2012.
just wait. With enough lash and resistance, these communists can be defeated, and the worthless and pathetic R party can be restored to conservatism.
It has only begun.
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Hey guys, just lurking for now, but enjoying the banter enormously. Hopefully just a prelude to the big one in 12 months.
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Intrade has Commie Corzine at 45…
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Christie with only 51%. not good?
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Probably best to assume Christie will lose in NJ. Then you can be pleasantly surprised if he pulls it out in the end.
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Don’t forget it’s a three way race in NJ. 51% is even high for the winner.
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What the GOP has done giving 900,000 to Scuzzyfubu is unforgivable.
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Even if the big guy loses this is a spectacular night, a wonderful victory for conservatism
VA results must be horrifying to these Communists and deeply sobering to those worried about losing their seats in 2010
Winning VA and NY is winning the Super Bowl
Winning VA and NY and NJ is like winning the Super Bowl after going 16-0
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My hometown is the corporate HQ for Krispy Kreme. A win in NJ should be good for our economy.
The “Hot Doughnuts Now” sign is on.
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Interesting info
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Agreed, Yahoo
Newt is finished and good riddance…
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RWY, screw the GOP. There seems to be enough spontaneous grassroots organization to get conservatives elected with or without the approval of the elites. It will be a long, long time before I trust the GOP with my donations again. I’ll certainly be donating to individual candidates and perhaps to Fred’s and Sarah’s PACs.
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I am still a tad worried about ny23……and voter fraud in absentee ballots can still carry Corzine.
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Corzine down to 30 on intrade. Someone is getting nervous.
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Deeds now 230,000 votes down with 63% in, losing 40%-60%
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Intrade:
HellCare passing by 12/31/2009
5.0
Bwahahahahahahahahahah…………………….!!!
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lol mfg.
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Dem win NY 23
13.0
Hahahahahahahahahhhahahahaha!!!
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CNN looks like a wake. All that’s missing is the corpse.
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McDonnell is leading in counties that the Chosen One won easily.
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Harry Reid and Evan Bayh Wednesday morning:
Harry: “I need your vote on HellCare”
Evan: “I’d prefer to get re-elected”
Harry: “President Obama needs your help”
Evan: “I can’t get re-elected supporting this ****”
Harry: “I’ll call you again tomorrow”
Evan: “Sure, Harry, whatever”
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I just can’t watch CNN or MSNBC.
Does Chrissy Matthews have a tingling feeling on his leg? He probably had an accident in his pants.
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I think Chrissy Matthews has a tinkly feeling running down his leg tonight.
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262,000 vote margin with 70% in
Utter
Total
Communist
Repudiation
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Someone go over to Poli and invite mnw over here.
My comments are awaiting moderation, heh….
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MFG, are you serious on Intrade on health care?
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Yes
Go to Intrade.com and check the crawl at the top of the page
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Wow!
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For those not familiar with Intrade, 100.0 means an event has happened and 0.00 means that an event has failed to happen
All contracts thus eventually move either to 0.0 or 100.0 at expiration
5.0 thus essentially means only a 5% chance of HellCare passing before year end
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yeah, that’s umm, GOOD!
Now, people need JOBS.
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Anyone see anything on NY23?
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No ****
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This has got to be a vast right wing conspiracy.
How many cabinet members are starting to count the days before they resign?
Clinton’s gotta be thinkin about it.
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I guess the NY23 polls just closed at 9 PM.
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County results for NJ are looking very promising.
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Big Guy up 45,000 with 17% in
Will he finish outside the MoF…???
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ah, don’t start. NJ will break our hearts as always.
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Yes, Barack will be shipping boatloads of Stimulus money to all blue states to that they can increase gubmint jobs…..but since they are also scum Dems they will probably spend it on SUVs for themselves.
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NY 23 please please please
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“This has got to be a vast right wing conspiracy.”
No MI Conservative, just a bunch of honkey white racists.
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Scum-o-crats
Commie-crats
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Either Allen is very tall, Cantor is very short (or both).
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Yahoo – NY23 polls closed at 9 PM.
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Building up bigger then expected leads in R’ish counties, carrying one or two that zine carried last time, Big D areas yet to really report though.
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With 28%: Christie: 50-44.
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When do they throw in the phony votes? Now, or do they wait to see how many they need?
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Politico twitter re exit polls in NY23 has Hoffman up 3 with 50, Scuzzyfubu at 2.5
That was 4 hours ago….
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Via Michelle Malkin:
This I really, really don’t believe.
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It will be interesting to see if Gingrich is on FNC tonight. Rove has been both BOR and Hannity.
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6 points is not enough, the Dems ALWAYS sandbag it at the end with the heavy Dem areas stuffing enough ballots for the win.
Dang…
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Christie, 224,761 ~~52% 18% vote in
Corzine, 178,710 ~~41%
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The only thing slim about Ol’ Christie is the margin he’ll win by…..
[117]
INC, Krauthamer was just on Fox, and he said the White House may not seem concerned, but he was positive there was a lot of worrying going on tonight.
He’s generally pretty perceptive, and he was calling BS to Axl.
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I’d hate to buy the groceries in his house, that’s for sure
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I don’t think it is a big enough margin for Christie at this point. A lot of Dem areas are sandbagging.
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New Jersey is looking more promising than I had believed.
Corzine will, of course, still steal it. But it will be more obvious!
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Mullet, you know that Rahm & Axl, probably Jarrett are keeping tabs.
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If Deeds and Corzine was ahead the White House would be all over it.
They trying to say if Corzine won early they weren’t going to have Obama call and be in the limelight?
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Commie Corzine down to 30.0
Sweep
Sweep
Sweep!!!
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300,000 margin in VA!
60%-40% or something close to that percentage likely to be the final tally
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A -26% swing in VA for Captain Bullshit!
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yes, that’s good
We need NY and NJ, and badly……
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Big Guy up 70,000 with a third of the votes in…
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I bet Mikey Steele wishes he had the $900k back.
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Corzine now slipping to 15.0 on Intrade. Trying to not to be excited.
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So when do the NY-23 polls close??
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they close at 2100 est
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No way we win NJ and lose NY23
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MP
Those are smart people on Intrade
At 15.0 they’re looking at current county results and thinking Corzine is TOAST
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I think NY be in the bag, bro
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no, no must see returns……
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78,000 vote margin 10% lead clearly outside the MoF 35% in
[137]
From Jake Tapper’s twitter:
NBC’s “The Biggest Loser” is at the White House tonight. This is not a joke.
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Regardless of the outcomes, these swings are huge, and much greater than just turnout effect.
This is repudiation of socialism and the wussy commander in chief pretender.
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Not enough
When 60% are in and the lead is 8, it’s over…..
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oww! INC, lol!
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Big Guy approaching a 100,000 vote lead
Where ‘da brooms at?
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The Franken strategy will be to introduce the absentees and provisionals in the morning, and the cadre of lawyers will hold a presser at noon denouncing the racist tactics of the Republicans (all 3 of them) in Camden and Newark.
Corzine will stand shoulder to shoulder with Jackson and Sharpton.
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No, HA saying only up 70k
40% in Christie 51-42
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100,000 vote lead at 37% in
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Senator Jim DeMint is holding a conference call right now. If you want to join call 1-888-356-3090, ext. 13555
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Corzine at 10.0 on Intrade!!
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Big Guy will win this!!
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Cheeseburgers for everyone!!
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OOOO! Yahoo likey!
Imagine, amnesty, health scare, and carbon caps dead?
Woo! I guess I’ll go idle a tank of gas thru my truck just to celebrate!
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Corzine 7.0
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Watching Luntz’ group on Hannity right now. I think a race riot is about to break out.
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D-O-N-E
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Corzine is coming back.
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It is unreal that we could win in NJ…..
I don’t expect much to change in NJ, but could I be wrong? The voters seem to expect some change…..
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FOX has it at about 60,000 lead now.
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Uh oh Corzine down 5% with 44% in…..
Here we go…..
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VA site down, I love to keep refreshing it to see how humiliating a defeat these Communist scum are suffering
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Hoffman 85.0
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Hoffman down 51-49 early on.
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Essex just reported. Was that Corzines last hope?
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Christie 92.0
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Here’s to Christie…………….
Cheeseburger in paradise
Medium rare with mustard ‘be nice
Heaven on earth with an onion slice
I’m just a cheeseburger in paradise
I like mine with lettuce and tomato
Heinz 57 and french fried potatoes
Big kosher pickle and a cold draft beer
Well good God Almighty which way do I steer for my
Cheeseburger in paradise
Makin’ the best of every virtue and vice
Worth every damn bit of sacrifice
To get a cheeseburger in paradise
To be a cheeseburger in paradise
I’m just a cheeseburger in paradise
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Now the NJ site down too?
Grrrrrrrrrrr…
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Dem areas holding out until they know how many votes they need?
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Celebrate Good Times Come On!
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No, not until the NJ and NY races are decided…..
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MO
LOL!!
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NY23 geographically is huge. The eastern part is heavily Democratic. The western part is heavily Republican, Dede is from the northern part.
[169]
Looks like I was right to be worried about NY-23. But a win is a win if it holds:
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZmU5NmEwMzBkODViOGM5YTcwNjIzNzlmMjFmN2MxMTE=
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Nein Nein Sie sind verboten!
[171]
Christie’s lead is back up to 6%.
[172]
Looks like NJ is playing out like expected. Guess my biggest surprise is Christie got an early lead and has held it. I thought if he won it, it would be as the comeback kid in the stretch.
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No, it’s always the Dems who win at the last minute…..
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Good news from Jim G. at the Campaign Spot:
Not a Projection of Christie’s Victory, Just Math
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Corzine slipping to 9.0 now on Intrade. Hoffman softening to 75.0, but still looking good.
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96,000 margin
Everybody grab a cheeseburger!!
[177]
Guys, this thread is slowing down for me. Is it time for a new thread on elections results?
[178]
MPT just beat me to the Intrade post….c’mon Hoffman.
And then, and then, and then, along came Harmer! What time do polls in CA-10 close?
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Hoffamn is down to 42%. I am starting to get scared. PPP, which gave him the huge leads in the polls, is a Dem-related organization and is not to be trusted.
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Dance To The Music!
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Well, they are counting in the Dem areas, no way Hoff loses by 12…..
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Your wish is my command INC!
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CA-10 polls close at 8pm pst.
Link to results for you night owls:
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elect-results/
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OK!
bc, someone at HA just said this:
There is good take away from these early numbers.
Clinton County is going 58% for Owens. They went 60% for Obama. No big suprise there.
Madison County is going 56% for Hoffman. They went 48% for Mccain, 49% for Obama.
We should be watching Madison county to look at wider district trends.
Vera on November 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM
She must be local.
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Hoffman is only down by 5% now. It’s a shame that the NRCC wasted $900k on Dede.
It’e interesting that Newt hasn’t been on FNC on an election night.
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2/3 of vote in and 97,000 vote lead.
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I am getting scared about Hoffman. He’s down by 8% now.
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Corzine has lost I think, only question will be the final number.
(discounting some sort of massive mail fraud)
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Hoffman down ~800 votes.