Hasan’s PowerPoint:
“We love death more then [sic] you love life!”
UPDATE: View Hasan’s Presentation
UPDATE: Robert Spencer at Jihad Watch links to Nidal Hasan’s PowerPoint presentation at the Washington Post.
In Nidal Hasan explains the Koran and Islam, he comments:
Note the copious quoting of the Koran; the explanation of the doctrine of abrogation (citing Koran 2:106 and 16:101), which usually Islamic apologists in the West dismiss as an invention of “Islamophobes”; and the explanations of defensive and offensive jihad.
Spencer also predicts that if any Islamic spokesmen are asked about this presentation, they will label it as extremist, denying that the tenets expressed are believed by any American Muslims, but they will not give a different interpretation that is specific to the verses cited by Hasan. Make sure you read all his commentary on Hasan’s presentation.
Hasan’s PowerPoint presentation can also be viewed in a PDF document put together by Joe at Jihad Watch.
*****Original Post Below*****
The Washington Post obtained a copy of a PowerPoint presentation done by Nidal Hasan at Walter Reed Army Medical Hospital in June, 2007. In their column, Fort Hood suspect warned of threats within the ranks, (via Michelle Malkin) they summarize some of the slides and provide text from others. Hasan was not trying to persuade his listeners that Islam is a religion of peace; on the contrary, if you’ve read any of the writings of Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, you’ll recognize that Hasan was describing the reality of Islam.
…he stood before his supervisors and about 25 other mental health staff members and lectured on Islam, suicide bombers and threats the military could encounter from Muslims conflicted about fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan…
“It’s getting harder and harder for Muslims in the service to morally justify being in a military that seems constantly engaged against fellow Muslims,” he said in the presentation….
The title of Hasan’s PowerPoint presentation was “The Koranic World View As It Relates to Muslims in the U.S. Military.” It consisted of 50 slides. In one slide, Hasan described the presentation’s objectives as identifying “what the Koran inculcates in the minds of Muslims and the potential implications this may have for the U.S. military.”
He also sought to “describe the nature of the religious conflicts that Muslims” who serve in the U.S. military may have and to persuade the Army to identify these individuals.
Other slides delved into the history of Islam, its tenets, statistics about the number of Muslims in the military, and explanations of “offensive jihad,” or holy war….
If typical procedures were followed, his adviser would have supervised the development of his project, said people familiar with the practice.
The final three slides indicate that Hasan referred to Osama bin Laden, the Taliban, suicide bombers and Iran.
Under a slide titled “Comments,” he wrote: “If Muslim groups can convince Muslims that they are fighting for God against injustices of the ‘infidels’; ie: enemies of Islam, then Muslims can become a potent adversary ie: suicide bombing, etc.” [sic]
The last bullet point on that page reads simply: “We love death more then [sic] you love life!”
Under the “Conclusions” page, Hasan wrote that “Fighting to establish an Islamic State to please God, even by force, is condoned by the Islam,” and that “Muslim Soldiers should not serve in any capacity that renders them at risk to hurting/killing believers unjustly — will vary!”
This news belies everything spoken by Obama, General George Casey and Janet Napolitano. The three of them would have been briefed on Hasan’s presentation in the aftermath of the Fort Hood shooting. It also raises more questions about those officers in the Army who saw this and took no action.
Robert Spencer said,
The more we remain in denial about how these things happen, and from what wellsprings they come, the more we will see of attacks like this.
Michelle Malkin writes that we should demand to see the entire presentation,
And then you need to demand to know the names of every higher-ups in the military and the government who read or saw this thing and did nothing about it.
Some lie, some are in denial and some are cowards while the media makes every excuse and obscures every bit of truth in every way it can–but 13 men and women are dead as well as one unborn child.
This was jihad at Fort Hood.
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H/T: Michelle Malkin, Washington Post, Jihad Watch.
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Casey’s remarks on NBC were even worse than those on CNN that bc3b quoted in the thread below. From Jihad Watch:
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Here is a great article about some of the PC surrounding Malik Nidal Hassan MMM MMM MMM:
http://andrews.blogtownhall.com/2009/11/09/an_interesting_double_standard.thtml
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Yeah, not only is he a murdering loser and a muslim heathen, but he can’t spell use proper grammar either.
tool.
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“We love death more then [sic] you love life!” – Hasan.
Then by all means, please go first Hasan. Your death will enrich our pitiful heathen lives.
But of course the jerk lied. He didn’t want to go at all. The bastard.
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When I was younger I remember watching documentaries of the Japanese interment during WWII. It was “fear” and “anger” that drove this country to round up and incarcerate a race of people, to keep this country safe, just in case…..
A Japanese woman I know had her entire family placed in these camps during WWII, in which, afterwards, they handed down stories to generations that followed them, of the harsh life experienced there. This woman, even though she wasn’t born in the ’40s, still carries anger with her for the needless deprivation her early relatives had to endure during those chaotic, suspicious times.
While I can’t envision a recreation of that era, with Muslims now substituting in for the Japanese, the same anger/fear is palpable towards all Muslims, it seems, especially after this Ft. Hood massacre.
I would hope what is learned by what I would call a “needless” tragedy, is to follow-up on untoward behavior exhibited by anyone (Muslim or others) towards harming a person or this country. Hasan’s strident remarks just seemed to be ignored by the authorities, and he was simply passed along through the ranks, without any objective oversight. This was wrong. But, it is also wrong to lump all Islam people together, in an over-reaction to an under-reaction by the military to take Major Hasan’s remarks seriously.
There is a WSJ article that dove-tails into this thinking, cautioning America to be discriminating and fair in their appraisals of who we should lend more scrutiny to.
After the Fort Hood Massacre WSJ LInk
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I did a post a few months back using the moron who went to “live with the grizzlies” with his girlfriend.
he and his girlfriend wound up being EATEN by the bears!
The bears were just being bears. The HUMAN was acting irrationally.
The Jihadis are just being jihadis…it is WE who are acting irrationally.
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I’ve updated the post to include links provided by Jihad Watch to Hasan’s actual PowerPoint presentation.
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Jan, I would urge you to read more about what Muslims believe. In the Jihad Watch link I have at the bottom of the post, Robert Spencer also wrote:
Note his words: these are political doctrines with a lethal edge
Violence and ascendancy of Islamic rule is part of the Koran. It’s been said by commenters that the only peaceful Muslim is one who is apostate. That is true. One big problem is discerning who is actually apostate because taqiyya and kitman are part of Islamic practice.
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The left has finally found their new Mumia in Hasan. In fact, you can listen to what Mumia actually thinks about Hasan’s actions HERE
Said Mumia of Hasan, the greatest of all “convicted prisoner” thinkers: “Perhaps this was his verdict on the war.”
Hmm, I wonder what Mumia thinks about black on black crime or Muslim on Muslim crime. When a black man commits a crime on another black man, is that his “verdict” on the black race? When a Muslim straps explosives onto a childs back and sends the child into a market crowded with many Muslim shoppers, is that another “verdict”?
If you can stomach them, more of Mumia’s racism can be found here: http://www.prisonradio.org/mumia.htm
By the way, just like with Mumia, the left is working really hard to find a legal defence that will work for Hasan. One “doctor’s” opinion is Compassion Fatigue
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It’s hard to believe that after Hasan has his military trial he won’t be found guilty and expediously executed.
Having said that my reasoning behind post #5, INC, was just to post a caution sign in taking the obvious distorted religious fundamentalism of Hasan and applying too broad a brush to Muslims who practice a very different version of their religion.
As far as monitoring mosques, I think that is part and parcel of distinguishing between radical Islam and non-radical Islam. Of course the same kind of rhetoric also goes on in some Afro-American churchs like the infamous Rev. Wright’s. This is what happens in country such as ours that supports such a diverse population.
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Jan, the thing is it’s not distorted religious fundamentalism of Hasan. It’s the actual religious fundamentalism of Islam.
By fundamentalism I mean adhering to the fundamental tenets of Islam.
Radical Islam is a misnomer that obscures reality. I would use the terms Islam and apostate Islam because that accurately reflects the reality.
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Wright’s institution is not a church by any stretch of the historic New Testament definition. The man does not deserve the title of reverend. It is an Orwellian hijacking of terminology designed, again, to obscure reality.
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I have heard the figure that 7% of the Islamic population believes in extreme Islam, which computes to roughly 70 million people — not a small number, for sure!
I am not a theology expect, nor do I have the expertise that you tend to exhibit, INC, about religion. But, one thing I have observed is that “words,” whether they are spoken, included in some kind of religious context, an opinion piece, and so on, can be construed differently by different mind sets. For that reason, while I heed the words people speak, I tend to look at their “actions” as representative of their true value.
Islamic interpretation of the words found in the Koran is different for different people practicing that religion. Just like some people, of more liberal persuasions, have found words in the Bible to be harsh and offensive.
Interpretation is a very subjective measure of anything, which is often why there are so many arguments over words and definitions in what are the true virtues of humanity.
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As for Wright’s “church” — we have enlarged the meaning of church in this era, as well as clergy. While the Bible may not recognize these people and institutions as being genuine, they nevertheless are very influential over a big chunk of the population. And, for that reason alone they have to be taken into consideration in the social fabric of America.
It is an Orwellian hijacking of terminology designed, again, to obscure reality.
Unfortunately, INC, we are living more and more in an Orwellian world. Not recognizing it will not make it go away. Hanging onto your own values, setting examples with your own life are but a few ways I think might dull the fangs of the society we now live, helping to improve it.
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I agree that actions reveal what is going on with a person; however, the concept of a “sleeper” is someone who delays actions in order to project a persona designed to deceive until the moment for action is perceived as having come.
Other than that words mean something. The use of words to obscure meaning is a longtime practice of those who are opposed to the truth.
Hermeneutics is the term used to cover the principles and practice of interpretation. I’m quite familiar with biblical hermeneutics–which include principles that, in my opinion, can be cross-applied to the interpretation of texts in general. Bad hermeneutics or the incorrect use of hermeneutics leads to bad or erroneous interpretation.
When it comes to the Koran, Robert Spence is someone to read about correct interpretation. I think he also makes a strong case for the misrepresentation of the Koran in order to deceive. Zakaria Botros is someone who uses the very words of the Koran to challenge Muslims:
Father Zakaria Botros on CAIR’s radar
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Jan, we have to call people on it when they try to redefine terms.
Wright is a dangerous man and those who are not conversant with the Christian church will take terms as they hear them, not as they are.
You cannot concede vocabulary to those who use it for evil.
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Interpretation of a text does not mean that everyone is entitled to their opinion and that all interpretations are of equal value. Nor does it mean that there is no way to discern a good interpretation from a poor one.
The idea of responsible, scholarly hermeneutics is to set up consistent principles by which to understand a text.
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I used to think that ‘Allah’ was the ’same’ as the Judeo/Christian God, Jehovah. After doing some research, some extra reading, and follow-ups on web-sites like Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch, I had some major repenting to do.
In the major religions, there are varying degrees to which followers adhere to the words of the leader, founder, or God of that religion. What we call ‘radical’ Islam is NOT radical in many Islamic countries around the world. They are the ‘true’ religion, and all others are apostate.
The thing is, our Western brains find it soooo hard to wrap itself around the Islamic theology. It is difficult for us to see Islam for what it is because it goes against our hearts, our psyche, our own understanding of religion is.
I don’t condone much of what was done during the Crusades, yet without people like Charles Martel, then all of Europe would have been ‘converted’ to Muslim.
I don’t know how yet to reconcile the two…Muslims and the very dangerous Islamists.
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This guy was a certified jihadi nut case, I’m seriously now doubting even his family’s statements that they had no idea he was like this, it’s possible but I’m close to calling BS on them.
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Jihad Watch:
FBI searching at Fort Hood shooter’s mosque
and
Obama runs interference for Islamic jihad at Fort Hood
He then quotes from the speech.