Republicans Reject RINOs
Washington (CNN) – A new national poll suggests that the Democrats may be the party of pragmatism and Republicans may be the party of ideological purity.The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey’s release on Tuesday comes just two weeks after internal party divisions led to the GOP loss of a seat in the House of Representatives that it had held since the 19th century.
The poll indicates that a slight majority, 51 percent, of Republicans would prefer to see the GOP in their area nominate candidates who agree with them on all the major the issues even if they have a poor chance of beating the Democratic candidate. Forty-three percent of Republicans say they would rather have candidates with whom they don’t agree on all the important issues but who can beat the Democrats.
Democrats polled seemed to place a slightly higher priority on electoral victory: 58 percent say that they would like their party to nominate candidates who can beat Republicans, even if they don’t agree with those candidates on all the issues. Fewer than 4 in 10 Democrats say they would rather see their party nominate candidates who agree with them on all major issues, but have a poor chance of beating the Republican candidate.
“One reason for the difference between the parties: the Democrats have a relatively even split on ideological grounds. Thirty-four percent of Democrats are liberal, 40 percent are moderates and less than one in four call themselves conservatives,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.
By contrast, 73 percent of Republicans questioned in the poll say they are conservatives, with only 26 percent describing themselves as liberal or moderate Republicans.
The Republican split that led to a victory by the Democrat in the special election in New York’s 23rd congressional district could also be a factor in numerous Republican party primary contests next year.
“Some Republican groups say they plan to run conservative candidates in next year’s primaries against GOP incumbents who vote the wrong way on certain issues. It looks like a majority of grassroots Republicans are fine with that tactic,” says Holland. “Some Democratic groups had suggested that they may mount their own primary challenges. The poll indicates that rank-and-file Democrats may not be happy with that.”
The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll was conducted November 13-15, with 1,014 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey’s sampling error is plus or minus 4.5 percentage points for Democrats and plus or minus 5.5 percentage points for Republicans.
Hat tip CNN
There is a NO in riNO!
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Same rules apply as always.
Hunt em down in Red states, Let em run in blue states…
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Battle between the pragmatists and scortched earth conservatives, of which I am a proud member.
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Coleman, Collins and Snowe are not the problem the R party faces…..
The problem will always be the Lugars, McCains, Hatchs, Bennetts, Grahams, Hutchisons…
Every time the Dems beat us in the Senate, it’s these guys giving them cover.
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what RWY said!
ANY Repub in Massachusettes (is that right?) is a good thing! Any DEMOCRAT or RINO in Alabama is a BAD thing!
nuff said!
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By contrast, 73 percent of Republicans questioned in the poll say they are conservatives, with only 26 percent describing themselves as liberal or moderate Republicans.
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Then why are we supposed to be moving more towards the center?
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Had we “primaried” Lugar 20 years ago, there might well be a conservative representing Indiana. The same is true of Hatch and Bennett in Utah.
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My candidacy for the 15th Congressional District of Arizona hasn’t generated the buzz I would have expected…yet.
I suspect the lack of an ACTUAL 15th District in Arizona may be hampering my fund raising and media coverage.
I am UNDAUNTED! In fact, I am considering running for some or ALL of the other 300+ imaginary Congressional Districts receiving funds from Porkulus…and will represent any and all that elect me!
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What happens to good rinos when they move to the center.
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Wasn’t Hatch more conservative years ago? I was thinking he was…that he had gotten too deep a drink of swamp water…but maybe I’m thinking about someone else…Several of them seem to have gotten more liberal as the years go by.
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It’s all nonsense and a huge straw dog, Beej.
The bottom line is people’s rights, their access to life liberty and pursuit.
Social cons supporting bans on abortion and the side of Terri Schaivo for example, are not denying anyone’s liberty, they are merely saying that the right to life is the most basic right.
We don’t want the state to be all powerful, that is a shabby lie. But the state CAN do SOME things, and guaranteeing the right to life, liberty and property, in that order, CAN and SHOULD be one of them, without damaging the constitution at all, to the contrary, even honoring it.
So it’s all a bunch of whining from the me generation, dysfunctional self centeredness with a mask of libertarianism.
The most basic right of all is the right not to be killed by someone else.
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JR -
I will be your campaign manager. Winter is coming. Arizona sounds good.
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Many Americans, even those on the center-right, consider their rights to do pretty much anything they want, up to and including the taking of innocent life, as their God-given prerogative.
I argue we are a nation of laws, not of men, and just because some red-assed baboon of a judge agrees with this view, does not mean our laws are based upon it.
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I am thinking of running for the emperor of Atlantis.
Mullet will be my vp
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One thing the poll does not take into consideration is primary vs general, therefore the poll is just about worthless.
During primaries it is mainly about who the voters like, not whether or not they can beat the opposing candidate in the general. The opposing candidate isn’t even known during most primaries anyway.
We have primaries so that we can pick the candidate that best suit us as individual voters. We become more pragmatic during the general if our specific candidate wasn’t nominated.
What a stupid poll.
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2008 is one year and an eternity away.
I have never written anything that I believe more than this statement.
Had Lindsay Graham been up for reelection in 2010, he not only would have faced stronger competition, but it would have been better financed.
Since 2008, we have had tea parties, 912 and NY23. Imagine how much better conservatives will be organized in 2010 and 2012.
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I am a pretty black and white person, a purist at heart when it comes to conservatism, I guess, but the article makes being one sound so….petty.
If our numbers are as large as the poll indicates, then what is holding us back?
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Tony -
What the poll says is that the grass roots Republicans would rather go with Rubio over Crist, even if they believe Crist has a better chance of beating the Democrat. I see this as HUGE.
I see this poll as affecting primaries rather than general elections. I will vote for a Pubbie over a Dem (unless it’s Snowe).
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The problem is that too many Republicans go as conservatives, but over time being inside the beltway does something to them. They want to be accepted by the powers to be and their fellow congress critters. They forget where they come from and who they represent.
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k….night all….too much for this tired pea brain tonight.
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beej -
If this is being petty, I will revel in being petty.
I picked my 2012 choice November 5, 2008 and nothing has caused me to change my mind.
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gn -
You couldn’t be more correct. If you compare RINOs ACU scores for 2006 and 2008, you will see that they are all lower – Murkowski, Graham. McCain, Lugar, Coleman, Snowe, Collins, Hatch, Bennett, Alexander, Hutchison … all of them.
DC cocktail parties must really be something.
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bc3b – we need people who will go there for 2 maybe 3 terms (senate) and 10 years in the House and get out before they get jaded by the DC lime lights.
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Being elected to the senate creates a manchurian stockholm syndrome.
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GN -
And you cannot be a lobbyist for 5 years.
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Marsha Blackburn is on Greta now. I forgot about her. Marsha makes my list in more ways than one.
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We need to throw the fear of God into RINOs and the best way to do that is by “primarying” a few.
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Dick Cheney officially endorsed Kay Barely Republican tonight.
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bc
Christ is showing better in the polls now because the dems (if they had to choose) would rather see a Senator Crist than a Sen Rubio-if a Republican were to win.
Trust me, after the primary Crist’s poll numbers will go way down and show his Dem opponent either very close or ahead in most of the polls.
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I know my way around Atlantis.
Mullet — President of Vice
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The dimwits do not want to go up against Conservatives this time around. NY 23 was a shot across the bow. They will do anything to not have to go against one. See how they are attacking Sarah because she might run in 2012?
They are afraid of Rubio and will do anything to have to run against Crist because they think they will have a better chance with him.
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DeMint is about to come on Great to discuss term limits.
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o/t I am on page 47 of Palin’s Book and I don’t think I will be able to read this fast enough. anyone else started?
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Great thread!
2010 will be the year of the Social Conservative !!!
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TLS -
I just got an e-mail from Borders saying it was shipped today, so it will be a few days.
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Term limits work against those with higher morals–in otherwords Republicans.
Notice I did not say “high”
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I wonder what the pro-abort Frum crowd thinks now? Obama in 2012 !!! hahahaha
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Kay Barely is on Greta now talking about Dick Cheney’s endorsement. Sarah has already endorsed “Good Hair.” Dick Cheney vs. Sarah Palin – the face of the past vs. the face of the future.
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“Dick Cheney officially endorsed Kay Barely Republican tonight.”
Off-set by Palin endorsing Perry.
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Eph, are we your “deep cover assignment” that MDefl and crew have been mentioning?
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“Marsha makes my list in more ways than one.”
Ugly man-haters? LOL
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bc – I didn’t pre-order, so I ran into today to make sure I got a copy. From what I’ve read so far, it will be worth your wait.
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39. RWH,
I dont know anytihng about all that. What happened to MD at BJG???
I do know that The HHR has become a three ring circus made up of “Squish” “Wuss” and “?”
Plus the threads here are much much better
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Term limits work against those with higher morals–in otherwords Republicans.
- McCain
- Hatch
- Bennett
- Snowe
- Collins
- Diminici
- Specter (yes, I know he’s a Dim now)
- Alexander
- Warner
- Chaffee
- Hutchison
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Well, I had it out with Polaris the other night. He is a logical debater, at least, unlike that jason fellow or wes, but he was not interested in the facts or the law, only the result of the case which he defined as “the law”.
My insistence that the written statutes comprise the law, and not any judge’s flagrant disregard for it in an opinion, was ignored.
Hence I was labeled a theo-crat for insisting on the right to life.
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I have some additional legal opinion that backs up my view, but I’m not sure I’ll bother. We are not going to change each other’s minds….
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“Hence I was labeled a theo-crat for insisting on the right to life.”
AAAAH yes, the good old days at the NewMinority … oops the HHR
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rwh,
I wish Polaris would come over here for good. He is a good debater but gets side tracked by the RINOs and KOS plants over there.
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Why am I “rwh”, may I ask, and what does it stand for?
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bc3b “I will be your campaign manager [for Arizona's 19th Congressional District]. Winter is coming. Arizona sounds good.
Don’t get TOO excited about the warmer climate, bc3b, since no ones knows WHERE “Arizona-19″ is, for all we know it’s acually IN Detroit!!
p..s Washington D.C. showed up with THIRTY Congresional Districts!! Which is super-cool considering they don’t have ANY Districts (zero Congress Critters!)
Joe Biden’s gonna ’splain all this to us…soon.
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rwh = Right Wing Hoorah???
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48. LOL, typo, plus only about 5 hours sleep last night. hahahahaha
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The vviiillleeeegez… ‘merica’s friendliest home teaown!
The vuuuuhhhh luuuguuuzzz!
Joe Biden, everyone!
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49. Just,
I live in AZ and can tell you that AZ-15 is in New Mexico.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ
Biden? I don’t think so, but funny…..
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MD,
Come back here!
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well, he keeps saying you’re in deep cover……..
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Hmm, the Theocratic party. Has a nice sound.
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yes. Anything with “-crat” in it sounds so patrician…. so … fake moralist.
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Yahoo -
Any idea how many did Huck had at his book signing at The Villages yesterday? I’ve seen estimates ranging from 200 to 1,000.
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Negative, control 1, no idea…. Don’t care about Huck, can only hope for Sarah to pass him in the polls.
Beck is here Friday, I wonder if I’ll go see him, the pudgy little fella.
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RWH…RWY
Where do you live?
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Right Wing – did you listen to Beck today or saw his program tonight?
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I live 10 miles northwest of Orlando, FL.
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listened to Beck today. Didnt see show worked late.
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63. Isnt that Alan Grayson’s district?
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No, it is Suzanne Kosmos, Communist.
Grayson is the one south of me.
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If Grayson wins in 2010 the GOP needs to fold its tent up
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My old congressrat was Feeney, R. He was reliably conservative.
Grayson beat Keller, who was a squish.
Both Ds are going down in ‘10, and down hard.
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Kosmos is a crazy leftwinger, a real pyschopath, but she got permission to vote against Obamacare.
Forgot how Grayson voted, I assume it was for.
Grayson is DONE.
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well, goodnight you rebel scum.
Early to work tomorrow…
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My guy is Jeff Flake, pretty solid con … but voted to censure Joe Wilson. Was an LDS thing.
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RWY – he had Vickers on and the coming dollar bubble burst. And he also had the an economic professor from Columbia confirm what Vickers said. Personally, must see to get a better idea of what is coming.
Confirms and goes into greater detail what MFG had on his thread.
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My campaign slogan:
‘Arizona-15, the best place imaginable!‘
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My Congressional district is the old Tom Davis one that includes a big chunk of Fairfax County so Connelly is my rep. I called his office for what it was worth… told the kid to start dusting off his resume if Connelly voted for Obamacare. This was after a Republican took Connelly’s old seat on the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors.
Now a seniors group is playing ads of tv directed at Connelly telling him they are going to remember his vote and they are angry. My farm is in Cantor’s district. The idiot Perriello reps the district just across the nearby county line — and I called his office. He is going down in flames next year. He won a squeaker on the coattails of Obama and to be sure Pelosi threw him under the bus knowing that he was going to be a one term Congressman anyway so she didn’t let him vote no. Instead she had to give cover to those who stood a fighting chance of keeping their seats.