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		<title>By: KnightHawk</title>
		<link>http://bejohngalt.com/2009/11/voting-present-wont-get-you-through-the-ooda-loop/comment-page-1/#comment-54143</link>
		<dc:creator>KnightHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;let the company operations run on autopilot&quot;
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Quite the opposite actually, had her hand in too many pots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;let the company operations run on autopilot&#8221;<br />
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Quite the opposite actually, had her hand in too many pots.</p>
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		<title>By: TLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is also the question of HP selling to Iran during a U.S. trade embargo.  

http://gawker.com/5349555/carly-fiorinas-iran-problem

&lt;i&gt;Fiorina&#039;s having a rough time of it. Her latest problem: defending herself against charges that HP made loads of money during her tenure by selling its products in Iran despite a U.S. trade embargo. &quot;To her knowledge, during her tenure, HP never did business in Iran,&quot; Fiorina&#039;s campaign told the San Jose Mercury News.

Really? Fiorina had no idea? That&#039;s odd, since...

Fiorina in 2003 noted Middle East sales were defying global trends, and, as the Merc notes, HP&#039;s partner there issued a press release saying sales topped $100 million and that &quot;the seeds of the Redington-Hewlett-Packard relationship were sowed six years ago for one market - Iran.&quot;

Three of the three HP partners in the Middle East contacted by Christopher Stewart for a story in Portfolio magazine&#039;s August 2008 issue readily agreed to ship printers to Iran. Portfolio notified HP of the incidents, but the company didn&#039;t condemn them, instead refusing comment. Fiorina was gone as CEO at this point, but Portfolio noted that diversion of American products to Iran trough Dubai had been going strong for many years. 
HP had an office in the Dubai free-trade zones notorious for funneling American goods to Iran, Portfolio reported — so it had ample means to be aware of how its products were being shipped.

After the SEC noticed the prevalance of HP products in Iran, it asked the company about the matter, and got back a letter from the company saying its Dutch subsidiary sold $120 million to Iran in 2008. 
Finally, in January 2009, HP severed ties with Redington Gulf, the distributor that had publicly bragged about its Iran trade six years earlier.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also the question of HP selling to Iran during a U.S. trade embargo.  </p>
<p><a href="http://gawker.com/5349555/carly-fiorinas-iran-problem" rel="nofollow">http://gawker.com/5349555/carly-fiorinas-iran-problem</a></p>
<p><i>Fiorina&#8217;s having a rough time of it. Her latest problem: defending herself against charges that HP made loads of money during her tenure by selling its products in Iran despite a U.S. trade embargo. &#8220;To her knowledge, during her tenure, HP never did business in Iran,&#8221; Fiorina&#8217;s campaign told the San Jose Mercury News.</p>
<p>Really? Fiorina had no idea? That&#8217;s odd, since&#8230;</p>
<p>Fiorina in 2003 noted Middle East sales were defying global trends, and, as the Merc notes, HP&#8217;s partner there issued a press release saying sales topped $100 million and that &#8220;the seeds of the Redington-Hewlett-Packard relationship were sowed six years ago for one market &#8211; Iran.&#8221;</p>
<p>Three of the three HP partners in the Middle East contacted by Christopher Stewart for a story in Portfolio magazine&#8217;s August 2008 issue readily agreed to ship printers to Iran. Portfolio notified HP of the incidents, but the company didn&#8217;t condemn them, instead refusing comment. Fiorina was gone as CEO at this point, but Portfolio noted that diversion of American products to Iran trough Dubai had been going strong for many years.<br />
HP had an office in the Dubai free-trade zones notorious for funneling American goods to Iran, Portfolio reported — so it had ample means to be aware of how its products were being shipped.</p>
<p>After the SEC noticed the prevalance of HP products in Iran, it asked the company about the matter, and got back a letter from the company saying its Dutch subsidiary sold $120 million to Iran in 2008.<br />
Finally, in January 2009, HP severed ties with Redington Gulf, the distributor that had publicly bragged about its Iran trade six years earlier.</i></p>
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		<title>By: janzam</title>
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		<dc:creator>janzam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>drdog

That why I posed the question to you because you seem to have the inside tech experience.  I have no details, just a summary viewpoint I&#039;ve heard from others. 

Thanks for your input too, mp.  That&#039;s why I sometimes throw out such a question ---&gt; to be better informed!</description>
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<p>That why I posed the question to you because you seem to have the inside tech experience.  I have no details, just a summary viewpoint I&#8217;ve heard from others. </p>
<p>Thanks for your input too, mp.  That&#8217;s why I sometimes throw out such a question &#8212;&gt; to be better informed!</p>
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		<title>By: drdog09</title>
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		<dc:creator>drdog09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan,

Frankly yes I would disagree. Look at her results.

* She recommended the spin off of a division of AT&amp;T that became Lucent.
* She later was brought on board Lucent to manage it.
* In the space of her tenure shareholder value dwindled.
* End game, Lucent got bought by Alcatel. It is now a former shell of itself.

* Brought on board with HP.
* Proceeds to consummate a merger with Compaq.
* Proceeds to sell off the Medical Systems division.
* Proceeds to down play the Instruments division. (Where HP started I might add.)
* Compaq merger goes terribly wrong. Compaq is demoted to a brand, yet half of the HP laptop line is still a Compaq product. 
* Again shareholder value becomes devalued. 
* Pretexting scandal.
* Dismissed by the board. 

She is a very smart woman. But the track record is not stellar. To be fair not all is necessarily managerial issues. Bell Labs as a spin off? Seriously BL was not meant to be a product source. So when it floundered I was not surprised. The HP problems were not all of her making either. The PC market was beginning to crater at the time she was taking the helm. She also had the old boy network to contend with in the company. Nor could she ever realign the power of the divisions in regards to their profit alignment to customer sales. No previous CEO was able to either. 

Just my view having been a customer of both firms over the years. A CEO&#039;s performance is a matter of shareholder value and EVA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan,</p>
<p>Frankly yes I would disagree. Look at her results.</p>
<p>* She recommended the spin off of a division of AT&amp;T that became Lucent.<br />
* She later was brought on board Lucent to manage it.<br />
* In the space of her tenure shareholder value dwindled.<br />
* End game, Lucent got bought by Alcatel. It is now a former shell of itself.</p>
<p>* Brought on board with HP.<br />
* Proceeds to consummate a merger with Compaq.<br />
* Proceeds to sell off the Medical Systems division.<br />
* Proceeds to down play the Instruments division. (Where HP started I might add.)<br />
* Compaq merger goes terribly wrong. Compaq is demoted to a brand, yet half of the HP laptop line is still a Compaq product.<br />
* Again shareholder value becomes devalued.<br />
* Pretexting scandal.<br />
* Dismissed by the board. </p>
<p>She is a very smart woman. But the track record is not stellar. To be fair not all is necessarily managerial issues. Bell Labs as a spin off? Seriously BL was not meant to be a product source. So when it floundered I was not surprised. The HP problems were not all of her making either. The PC market was beginning to crater at the time she was taking the helm. She also had the old boy network to contend with in the company. Nor could she ever realign the power of the divisions in regards to their profit alignment to customer sales. No previous CEO was able to either. </p>
<p>Just my view having been a customer of both firms over the years. A CEO&#8217;s performance is a matter of shareholder value and EVA.</p>
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		<title>By: TLS</title>
		<link>http://bejohngalt.com/2009/11/voting-present-wont-get-you-through-the-ooda-loop/comment-page-1/#comment-54111</link>
		<dc:creator>TLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A big problem in CA is the electoral college.  Because whoever wins the popular vote gets ALL 55 electoral college votes, the conservatives often don&#039;t bother to vote all at.  And ususally the election is &quot;declared&quot; over by the media long before our polls are closing.  But when you look at issues like Prop 8, gay marraige, you see that conservatives are alive and well in CA, dispite San Fran.  It is not impossible to image getting rid of Barbara Boxer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big problem in CA is the electoral college.  Because whoever wins the popular vote gets ALL 55 electoral college votes, the conservatives often don&#8217;t bother to vote all at.  And ususally the election is &#8220;declared&#8221; over by the media long before our polls are closing.  But when you look at issues like Prop 8, gay marraige, you see that conservatives are alive and well in CA, dispite San Fran.  It is not impossible to image getting rid of Barbara Boxer.</p>
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		<title>By: ip727</title>
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		<dc:creator>ip727</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have said all along, the neo msrxists seeing their opportunity slipping away, will work all the harder to cram this thing through come hell or highwater.It is whistling past the graveyard to think otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have said all along, the neo msrxists seeing their opportunity slipping away, will work all the harder to cram this thing through come hell or highwater.It is whistling past the graveyard to think otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: mpthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mpthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan, it is my understanding that Carly was very unpopular at HP.  Not so much because she had to make tough, unpopular decisions for the good of the company, but because she largely let the company operations run on autopilot and was more concerned about hobnobbing with celebrities, fattening her own wallet, and deflecting blame for things that went wrong.   When she left the HP the company was in very bad shape.  

Carly claiming to be responsible for setting HP up for success would be like Carter claiming that he set up Reagan for success.  Making decisions is one thing, having the wherewithal to see them implemented and carried out successfully is another.  That is where Carly fell flat.  The board members that fired her are smart business people and wouldn&#039;t have fired her if she was doing a good job.  They simply couldn&#039;t take any more the BS and antics she threw up to avoid responsibility for being a total failure on the operational side of the business.  If she was as good a CEO as she claims she would have been snapped up by another company very quickly.

As they say in Texas, Carly is all hat and no cattle.  I guess she&#039;ll be right at home in the Senate if she is elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan, it is my understanding that Carly was very unpopular at HP.  Not so much because she had to make tough, unpopular decisions for the good of the company, but because she largely let the company operations run on autopilot and was more concerned about hobnobbing with celebrities, fattening her own wallet, and deflecting blame for things that went wrong.   When she left the HP the company was in very bad shape.  </p>
<p>Carly claiming to be responsible for setting HP up for success would be like Carter claiming that he set up Reagan for success.  Making decisions is one thing, having the wherewithal to see them implemented and carried out successfully is another.  That is where Carly fell flat.  The board members that fired her are smart business people and wouldn&#8217;t have fired her if she was doing a good job.  They simply couldn&#8217;t take any more the BS and antics she threw up to avoid responsibility for being a total failure on the operational side of the business.  If she was as good a CEO as she claims she would have been snapped up by another company very quickly.</p>
<p>As they say in Texas, Carly is all hat and no cattle.  I guess she&#8217;ll be right at home in the Senate if she is elected.</p>
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		<title>By: KnightHawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>KnightHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The majority just doesn’t care! &quot;
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The majority in that SanFran district just doesn&#039;t care, but we knew that already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The majority just doesn’t care! &#8221;<br />
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The majority in that SanFran district just doesn&#8217;t care, but we knew that already.</p>
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		<title>By: janzam</title>
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		<dc:creator>janzam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just look at the race between Garamendi and Harmer.  In the former you had a Kerry-like, boring candidate, who has accomplished nothing but growing an ego, who &quot;lost&quot; the only debate with his opponent --&gt; Harmer.  

Harmer, on the other hand was a candidate who was earnest, ran a personable, grass-roots campaign, was the decisive &quot;winner&quot; in the debate and lost by a 10+ point margin to Garamendi in the electin. So much for hosting all those good qualities.  The majority just doesn&#039;t care! 

California is almost impossible territory for a true-blue conservative to win.  There are just too many special interest groups leaching from entitlements here ---&gt; Unions, illegals, govt. employees etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just look at the race between Garamendi and Harmer.  In the former you had a Kerry-like, boring candidate, who has accomplished nothing but growing an ego, who &#8220;lost&#8221; the only debate with his opponent &#8211;&gt; Harmer.  </p>
<p>Harmer, on the other hand was a candidate who was earnest, ran a personable, grass-roots campaign, was the decisive &#8220;winner&#8221; in the debate and lost by a 10+ point margin to Garamendi in the electin. So much for hosting all those good qualities.  The majority just doesn&#8217;t care! </p>
<p>California is almost impossible territory for a true-blue conservative to win.  There are just too many special interest groups leaching from entitlements here &#8212;&gt; Unions, illegals, govt. employees etc.</p>
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		<title>By: mulletover</title>
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		<dc:creator>mulletover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MP and JR,

I am way east of the fault over here in NC.  I will leave the light on for you.  Don&#039;t be late leaving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MP and JR,</p>
<p>I am way east of the fault over here in NC.  I will leave the light on for you.  Don&#8217;t be late leaving.</p>
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		<title>By: KnightHawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>KnightHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;that many Conservatives are using Politico.&quot; -- lol I doubt it, but some time on certain posts the cons come out in force in the comments area, typically though I usually see the libs infesting most stories to the point where I rarely bother now to look at the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;that many Conservatives are using Politico.&#8221; &#8212; lol I doubt it, but some time on certain posts the cons come out in force in the comments area, typically though I usually see the libs infesting most stories to the point where I rarely bother now to look at the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: janzam</title>
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		<dc:creator>janzam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Chuck DeVore for United States Senate - 2010&lt;/b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chuckdevore.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Link &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Chuck DeVore for United States Senate &#8211; 2010</b><a href="http://www.chuckdevore.com/" rel="nofollow"> Link </a></p>
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