Crap And Trade Dead in 2010
2009 December 27
Even Mary Landrieu can’t be bribed enough to support this job killing disaster
Next up: “job creating” legislation
I can hardly wait…
HT: HotAir
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Oh God, we JUST got through this with health care, and now we are moving on to the next “dead” agenda item that will pass anytime the dems want it to….
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MFG, lol. You’re an expert on what’s dead, eh?
Sorry for ragging you, don’t you see the irony? Perhaps someone else should have authored this post.
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This is great. Like the stupidity of both federal subsidies for Tobacco and anti-tobacco efforts, we are now embarking on killing jobs with CnT but burning through another several billion with a ‘jobs bill’.
Here’s what I want to know. Why is it that there has been little mention of Tax Cheat Tim giving Freddie and Fannie their handouts? That was another $800bn that just got dropped down the toilet.
Sigh….
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I’d forgotten the EPA was going to enforce this regardless of what Congress does. First commenter on the HA thread nailed it.
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We can only hope that it’s dead, though I fear not.
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I’d forgotten the EPA was going to enforce this regardless of what Congress does. First commenter on the HA thread nailed it. — RWY
Red Herring. EPA is a Creature of Congress. All Congress has to do is pass a bill stating that CO2 IS NOT a green house gas. Then place the EPA’s continued funding contingent on compliance.
End of story.
Anybody stating otherwise is blowing smoke.
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Yes, but does anyone expect congress to rein in the EPA? Much more likely they’ll play stupid, of course?
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And the SCOTUS has already ruled that the EPA has the authority to regulate Co2, so you might see EPA take congress to court, should congress try to interfere.
The states have to tell the EPA to stuff it, just like everything else, the states are the only ones who can put a full stop on all this nonsense.
Go states!
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RWY, yes I do. That’s what we pay those pea brains for. Oh yes they will play stupid, you’re 100% right on that score. But anybody, including CongressCritters should be brought to task is they tout the line ‘We have to comply’. BS, EPA is the one who has comply.
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Dammit folks…it is NOT dead! They are simply SAYING it is “back-burner” in order to get everyone to calm down.
Once the EPA issues their draconian restrictions, THEN the Senate will ride to the rescue!
Hey, Charlie Brown…she’s gonna pick the eff’ing football up AGAIN!!!
geez
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The long and short of the whole CO2 mess —
The EPA did not want to address the issue. The State of Mass sued. The whole case is here. The SCOTUS case hinged on ruling that EPA had statutory authority. Congress can mandate CO2 is not a GHG. Or the EPA, in light of the findiings that are showing up about Climategate, make a determination that the state of the issue is unsettled and defer moving forward.
Just my opinion.
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The states have to tell the EPA to stuff it, just like everything else, the states are the only ones who can put a full stop on all this nonsense.
Ugh, in that case Kalifornia is screwed again. Our “Republican” governor wants the rest of the states to follow his example of setting up a state run Cap & Trade scheme by 2012. I’m sure the other governors are saying to him, “Yeah Arnold, great idea! We can use all the jobs your state cares to export!”
It’s not even 10:00 yet and my head is already hurting…
BTW, I agree with Justrand. Constantly proclaiming the communist legislation is “dead” is nearly as annoying as Napolitano saying the “the system worked”. The communists are merely dithering on which anal probe to use on the country next.
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Yeah, why bother to pass this when the epa will simply issue an imperial decree who plain ole air will destroy whats left of our industrial base lol
Amnesty is up next – now that the “carrot” of “free” HC will be available for them new “$500 fine” citizens (I am sure the SEIU or some other Soros front group will be glad to pay that “fine” on the way to signing em up to vote!) down a the local MediCaide office since that will be greatly expanded or they can get a huge subsidy check from the taxpayer to buy it on the “private insurance exchange”….
Seriously, nobody on here really belevies that we have anything but a National HC system after CrappyCare passes?
Its run in Washington and simply adminstered by a private company like medicare advantage (and we see how quickly that can be trashed in favor of an overt government run plan) and once they are run out of business its NHS care baby!
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The states have to tell the EPA to stuff it, just like everything else, the states are the only ones who can put a full stop on all this nonsense.
Actually it was 6 States that started this crap to begin with. So I don’t think you will find relief via that route.
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Obama = “da Man”
Da Man is hold us down!
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Well, let those states destroy their economies, and the red states will reject it. ONe thing MFG has been right about, we cannot expect the deep blue states to come to their senses; they will double down on socialism.
The red states will have to stand up for themselves, and that means no more federal cash.
The only reason America has lasted this long is that the states have been left alone (relatively speaking) to develop their own way of life.
Now that the Feds are centralizing everything, and forcing everyone to live the life of an east German citizen in 1974, the states have to draw the line, if they won’t, then fighting will break out, and a very long agonizing split will occur in the nation as the people rebuild local governments from the ground up.
Forget state governments in that case, it’ll be county by county….
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#16 Your correct…..someone has to stand up and say NO to this centralization nonsense!
Now for all 300 million people our life and death medical decsions will revolve around sleazy and corrupt DC politics?
This is freaking immoral and insane!
Problem is, right now I dont see any mainstream politican in office who has the ‘nads to “go rouge” on this….
Looks like the “we the people” will need to start giving them a loud and vocal cue lol
I wonder what label the left can come up with to smear people when that happens thats worse then nazi or racist lol
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RWY,
It might come to that.
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And the SCOTUS has already ruled that the EPA has the authority to regulate Co2, so you might see EPA take congress to court, should congress try to interfere. RWY
The “authority” to do so comes from congress, scotus only confirmed that was so under the CURRENT enabling legislation. An agency of the gubmint has no standing to take the entire legislature to court, as their very creation depends on the legislature to begin with.
Congress could eliminate the EPA in toto, if they had the balls to do so,Hence they can also limit their authority if they so desire.
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CRAP AND TRADE, ANOTHER CHARADE,
WELCOME TO THIS MARXIST PARADE,
THEIR SUBTERFUGE PLANS HAVE BEEN EXPOSED,
THESE COMMIES IN SHEEPSKIN WILL BE DEPOSED,
WE WILL LINE THEM UP AND GIVE THEM THE BLADE.
[21]
Something else dead – the Saints
Blow a 17 point lead to lose to Tampa Bay
Argh
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True, IP, but the Dems will not strip them of that auth, and the EPA may as a stalling tactic, sue to keep it.
Let’s flip the congress and see what happens…of course, the GOP never showed any backboone on AGW before, so will they now?
heh.
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Cap and Trade….not dead. Absolutely everything Obama said he wanted when he was campaigning (including that energy prices would “necessarily skyrocket”) will happen because he will break knee caps to make it so. From healthcare and cap and trade, to income re-distribution with no fancy label…they will simply call it “income re-distribution” to collect what healthcare and cap and trade missed. The masses will shout I love big brother while the rest of us drink our victory gin until we pass out.
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Let me get this str8, you just got burned on HC = DEAD now your moving onto C&T being dead? Well you got a better shot at not being burned with this one but with the fools in congress and this radical administration I would say anything is dead. At least you have the incompetence of the WH working for you.