Sometimes You Profit More from a Loss
A year ago the American people voted for “hope and change” over McCain/Palin and the Democratic Party solidified its majorities in the House and Senate, Obama was in control along with Pelosi and Reid. The voters had spoken and it appeared the country was making a sharp turn to the left. With the dynamic campaign Obama’s team ran and its organizational skills, it looked like the far-left was about to enjoy a long, unchallenged dominance at every level of government. Many thought the conservative movement was dead.
A lot has happened in the past year. Obama has been successful in enacting the $878-billion Stimulus package and nominating Sonya Sotomayer to the Supreme Court, a number of other leftist judges and finding employment for the far-left in his Cabinet and staff. Other than that, victories have been hard to come by.
The war in Afghanistan has taken a turn for the worst, with record casualties. Unemployment is at 10%. Americans are incensed about growing federal government. Obama’s tremendous popularity has evaporated. Obama’s favorables are below 50% in just about every legitimate poll … and are falling. The gap between Democratic and Republican affiliation has dropped from double digits to less than 3%. Generic Republican congressional candidacy now leads Democrats by 7 points. Voters believe the Republicans can better govern in most areas. Conservatives are organized like never before. The Tea Party movement has engaged Americans who never before had been involved in politics.
Last, but not least, for the first time since Reagan, conservatives found a strong, charismatic, courageous voice to represent them .
Let’s pretend that John McCain had won. Would he have acted much differently than Obama in many areas? Would McCain have been attempting to reaching across the aisle, bowing to the wishes of Pelosi and Reid (a la McCain-Feinberg, Mc-Cain-Kennedy and McCain-Leibernan) Unemployment may well have been in the 9% – 10% range. Many McCain staffers (Davis, Schmidt, the Wallaces) would have assumed key positions. Vice President Palin would probably have been viewed as too divisive and outspoken and kept in the background. Rather than speaking out on the issues, Sarah Palin would have been forced to parrot the administration line like was the case in the 2008 campaign.
If the economy would have sunk to its current levels, McCain and the Republicans certainly would have been blamed. Republicans in Congress would have been pressured to support President McCain, making the passage of some sort of government health care and amnesty passage more likely. Rather than shrinking in numbers, the Democrats would have increased their dominance even more.
Barack Obama still represents the greatest single danger to our nation in history. Fortunately, he is a bumler who is a much better campaigner than administrator and has energized conservatives like few others could. Our difficulties are far from over. We still have to fight off health care and amnesty (although we had to fight amnesty off under Bush too).
But conservatives’ prospects (not necessarily Republican prospects) have not been brighter in more than 20 years. With the coming elections in 2010, conservatives are poised to run true conservatives against RINOs and take back their party. Conservatives are determined that the Republican party’s 2012 nominee will represent the values of its conservative base rather than the moderate values of its leadership.
As Glenn Beck said a few weeks ago, a McCain victory might have translated into a short-term victory and a long-term loss for conservatives and our nation.
Do you agree?
More than 2,000 wait in the snow for a Sarah Palin book signing in Fairfax, VA Saturday. Think these people are going to work hard to elect conservatives to Congress in 2010 and a true conservative President in 2012? You betcha!
Hat tip: Rueters
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I am coming around to this line of thinking. I was quite vocal about the disaster that would be Obama, and was sure my vote for McCain was the right one. I could not sit out the election, and willingly let a communist take over. Like most here, I supported Hunter, Thompson, and Romney before ever reaching the ballot box.
The phoenix, however, has a huge pile of ashes to rise from, and the pile is getting bigger still. Obama’s initiatives will do tremendous damage to the country if he is successful in getting them passed even in scaled down form. Further, the infestation of leftists in high government positions and in bureaucratic levels will be a major issue for administrations to follow.
Nevertheless, he is a bumbler and the Republicans will have a great mid-term making it much harder for him to get anything of consequence done.
McCain and Palin would have only been a short term advantage kicking the pain down the road.
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Losing is never a good thing
Never
Never
Never
Never
I think Hellcare fails, but if it passes, the Obama presidency will be an unmitigated catastrophe from which the nation may never recover
I vehemently disagree with Glorious Defeat Theory where we get our asses kicked but somehow there is some nobility in this
Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing
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But define winning. As usual, the details are the critical factor.
If winning means McCain passes amnesty and cap and trade, sinking the country forever, how is that winning? The R party would have been labeled with being the iceberg that sunk the Titanic, forever.
And McCain was DEAD SET on passing those, and still is.
As it stands now, he may not win re-election to the senate. Obama and the Dems are completely and utterly hated by 60% of the country.
And look at the R leadership, look at McConnell, Cornyn, and Kyl. Do they need any more encouragement to move left? They can hardly stop themselves from kissing Obama’s butt now…..
I know what you’re saying MFG, winning by losing is battered wife syndrome.
But in this case, depending on what happens in 2010, it will be true. Better to lose with McCain.
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I disagree with you in this regard MFG. I truly think four years of McCain would have been like four more years of Bush. The GOP would have been in a state of disaray. The 2010 election would have been a disaster.
We don’t need to simply stem the tide of socialism, conservatives need to mount an offensive to take back our country. John McCain is not the person to lead that attack, nor does he want to be.
Perhaps it will be more palatable if you view it as punting to the one yard line and pinning the Democrats deep in their own territory with a rookie QB running the offense.
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I think Hellcare fails, but if it passes, the Obama presidency will be an unmitigated catastrophe from which the nation may never recover
Cap and Trade is worse than hellcare, and amnesty is worse than both of those.
At least healthcare can be repealed or defunded. Cap and trade can, although you might get economic sanctions for doing it.
And amnesty can never be repealed.
McCain supported both of those, as did does parts of the R party.
This is a terrible gauntlet we are passing thru, but if we make it thru intact, IF, and that’s a big IF, healthcare, amnesty, cap and trade, are avoided, and if the Rs retake the house in 2010, and if no more SCOTUS judges are confirmed, then yes, it will have been better for McCain to have lost.
Jury’s still out.
We could get health care, Scalia might die or quit. Those are better arguments for McCain.
But long term, if amnesty passes, the election did not matter anyway. Dems will rule for a century.
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What a dilemma?
My arms are trapped under a rock fall.
Do I chew one arm off so I can reach my cell phone and call for help, or do I chew both arms off so I can walk back to safety?
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And here’s the annoying thing:
People keep thundering that conservatives have to suck it up and support these horrible nominees the R party gives us.
No. We will NOT SUPPORT nominees that view us the same way the Democrats do.
Screw that.
The R party keeps nominating McCain types, then the R party can go straight to hell. We will take the country back the old fashioned way.
McCain would NEVER have taken the country back, NEVER.
A re-opening of old wounds.
Let McCain retire, let’s get Hayworth into his seat, now is the year.
Besides, it would neuter Graham. He’d switch to the Dems, and be forgotten forever, and good riddance.
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There’s more of Palin’s presentation to the Gridiron Club on the previous thread (compliments of GretaWire).
Apparently Sarah also visited Walter Reed while she was in Washington.
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Before we can take back the country, conservativesw must take back the GOP. As Yahoo said, there are too many Republicans who are willing to sell out so that the liberals and the media (actually one-in-the-same) will like him.
If Lucy Graham were up for reelection in 2010, he/she would be a dead duck.
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Excuse the OT.
However I have found something better than a gun. I want six of these!
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In South Carolina, the voters have a major contrast between Graham and Demint. Graham got in under the wire for his second term.
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Amnesty is the ONLY bell that can’t be “un-rung”! Even ObamaCare can be un-done, thanks to the morons deciding to wait 4+ years to enact the “benefits”…while starting the taxation immediately! Until people are locked into Gummint HellCare it can be reveresed.
But once 12 million illegals are made legal and made INSTANT VOTERS we are doomed. And yes, the Bill to automatically register them to vote is already being pushed, quietly, through Congress.
Ironically the Black voters that the Dems have pandered to (though never delivered FOR) all these years would then find their influence vastly diminished. Elections have consequences.
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drdog…what the heck is picture?
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Sorry, I don’t agree.
It may (hopefully) work out well in the long run, but the nation is currently in terrible danger.
As a general principle, it is not wise to ever give power to totalitarian leftists. It may never be regained.
Your post assumes that the electoral process in 2010 and 2012 will occur normally. I think that is a big assumption.
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Perhaps, Phin, but elections have been in question since at least 2000, and it will only get worse. Only by getting involved can we turn it back.
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O/T (but only slightly)
A “news”wire source describes the East Anglia emails and data this way:
E-mails stolen from the climate unit at the University of East Anglia appeared to show some of world’s leading scientists discussing ways to shield data from public scrutiny and suppress others’ work.
“Stolen”…because THAT is the real crime here!
and then “appeared to show”???????
Well golly, lines like:
“We need to hide the decline in global temperatures”
-and-
“Destroy all my emails and let [bunch of names] know to destroy theirs too”
-and-
“We need to ensure that none of the work of global warming skeptics is printed in key scientific journals“.
sure do provide that “appearance”
p.s. all the destruction of data and elimination of emails came AFTER a “Freedom of Information Act” request was received. A felony, even in jolly old England!
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BC, MFG,
Go back thru some very old posts in ‘08. I was saying then what BC is suggesting now — That whoever won the ‘08 election would be =
* a one termer.
* Would be labeled Herbert Hoover II. Or Jimmy Carter at least.
* Would damage their party for the next 40 years.
Its happening. So long as Brandon’s generation opens their eyes and realize what is going on the Dims will wander in the wilderness for 40 too.
As to this — “A lot has happened in the past year. Obama has been successful in enacting the $878-billion Stimulus package and nominating Sonya Sotomayer to the Supreme Court, a number of other leftist judges and finding employment for the far-left in his Cabinet and staff. Other than that, victories have been hard to come by.” — Yes and no.
First unless I am mistaken, the $878bn was progulmated under Bush. Fact Obama had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the table remember? McCain suspended campaigning, Obama continued till forced otherwise. Getting what you want in your cabinet is generally a fiat accompli, so I don’t consider that much shucks. Especially if you consider Czars cabinet picks, a bunch of them have been thrown under the bus. The Great Latino was not much of a win either. If you look at history 80% of all candidates make it to the bench.
MFG, yes it always better to win. But sometimes a mulligan is acceptable. That mulligan is taking back the House. If the GOP can become the majority then we had our 2yr nightmare and it now ends. Then the real work begins, getting this country out of debt, suspend spending in Congress, repeal a massive amount of regulation, get the economy going and get Palin elected president.
O can sit in the WH, booze it up and rot there as far as I am concerned if all that happens.
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JR, its a animated gif (video) of a police dog taking down a perp. It doesn’t work??
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Your post assumes that the electoral process in 2010 and 2012 will occur normally. I think that is a big assumption. — PG
PG, consider the flip of that argument. If the process does not occur normally then we won’t be worrying about it anyway. Most of us will be in the resistance taking matters otherwise.
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E-mails stolen from the climate unit at the University of East Anglia appeared to show some of world’s leading scientists discussing ways to shield data from public scrutiny and suppress others’ work. — as provided by JR
Well they can stop that meme right now. From what I am hearing the data dump was siting on a public Internet facing FTP server. So technically there was no ‘break in’. Its no hack, its now either a leak or human error.
Love it.
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mulletover
What a dilemma?
My arms are trapped under a rock fall.
Do I chew one arm off so I can reach my cell phone and call for help, or do I chew both arms off so I can walk back to safety?
Just one arm,to save your trigger finger.
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Dr. D, have you heard something new? This post I mentioned on November 23 from WUWT? had that as a third explanation:
The CRUtape Letters™, an Alternative Explanation.
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“But once
1220 – 25 million illegals are made legal and made INSTANT VOTERS we are doomed. And yes, the Bill to automatically register them to vote is already being pushed, quietly, through Congress.”Fixed it for you JR.
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“First unless I am mistaken, the $878bn was progulmated under Bush. Fact Obama had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the table remember? McCain suspended campaigning, Obama continued till forced otherwise.”
The $878 billion was the Stimulus, not TARP, which was a similar amount.
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18.CrappyCare cramdown still tracking like the NightTrain Express!:
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20091206/D9CDVHMG0.html
Fake “moderates” and phoney enraged “liberals” (they are all really authoritarian statists) are close to a “deal” on Government Option – big surprise, eh?:
“A new idea being discussed was national nonprofit insurance plans that would be administered by the Office of Personnel Management, which oversees the popular Federal Employees Health Benefits Program.
Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., a key centrist, was enthusiastic about the idea, which she’s proposed in different forms in the past. “I think it bodes well for being able to do what we want to do, which is to create greater choice and options in the marketplace,” she said.”
In the meantime, we are now being set up for the big media lap-up of the Dear Leader swooping in a brokering the “great compromise” so the benevolent socialist masters can deliver “free” government run HC to the ignorant, redneck, animal-like masses:
“Obama planned to appear at an afternoon Senate Democratic caucus meeting in response to appeals from a number of lawmakers eager for him to step in and help Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., finish the job.
“The president is going to come in and urge us to bring this ball across the line, to finish this, as he should. This is an historic opportunity,” said Illinois Sen. Richard Durbin, the No. 2 Senate Democrat.”
Holy crap, this drama is all too predictable lol
We will have CrappyCare cramed thru the Senate by Christmas – bank on it kiddies!
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The only reason it looks this way is because Obama is making an error and moving too far too fast. He could have had HC, and Cap&Tax passed already, he was just stupid about it, and while 2010 looks good… it has not come to pass yet.
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24 correct TARP was 750B, Stim I is all Obumbler, and lets not forget the bloated 09 budget.
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I agree with #2, due to the CrappyCare cramdown (which is really a socialist/elitest coup against EVER allowing Constitutional government again) the supposed “benefits” of losing elections pale in all respects against the loss of our rights and freedoms….
Sorry, I just think that the “winning by losing” line is always BS and wishful thinking….
Winning is always better!
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INC, I won’t call it ‘new’ but the observation has been flowing underneath all the other breakthru news on Climategate –
— source
Here’s the scenario –
* CRU does not standalone they report to somebody. The head office gets the FOIA request. Requests a preliminary response.
* The head office contact is a trusted partner in the scam. So the package goes open with no redactions.
* The contact does not have CRU id’s so the CRU responder dumps it on a public FTP server.
* CRU responder forgets to delete after contact has retrieved the package.
Its plausible. However there is only one problem — the specificity of the contents of the package. If it had actually been a response to an FOIA then there would have been a much larger scope of content than just what was provided. FOIA’s generally don’t know the answers beforehand so their scope is broad.
I am still in belief that it was an inside job. But technically it is a leak not a break in. Data on a public FTP server for most in the West consider such things an issue of improper possession but not a break in to a computer system. For example, if this is how the data was acquired, then the US Computer Fraud and Abuse Act falls deafly away from who acquired it. Which in itself is nice. The Russian that got the tip of the data is off the hook I would think. The leaker needs to head to deep cover.
Mullet look out you might have company swimming about.
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BC,
You’re right. Both bills had the same funding level. My Bad.
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O/T
Hey Dad- remember how jealous I was of you because you got to shake all those Marines’ hands at the ball and thank them individually for their service? Well guess what! Last night was the Christmas party for the Warrior Fitness and there was a amazing ceremony for the Marines in attendance, retiring of the Colors, video presentation, etc. Not a dry eye in the house. It was so cool. My date was my son, and it was pretty cool to watch his eyes while he was watching the ceremony. It was a look of awe and you could see the spark that said- I want to be like them. At dinner, we were seated with 3 of these men, and got to thank them for their service and have a long conversation with them. It was such an honor. Did my heart good to tell them how much I appreciate them, and hear just how on the side of the people they really are. Such gentlemen too, and I am so glad my boy got to be in their presence! They are the role models all young men need!
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WEC, they better hurry! They have less than 2 weeks left if they want to finish it this year.
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#32 The drama will be played down to the wire – you can bet a bottle of the Mad Dog 20/20 on it!
By Christmans (so to be renamed ObamaMass in honor of the new messiah), the big “compromise” will be unvailed and the lapdogs and ultra liberals will all vote yes and sing the praises of the Dear Leader…..
They will be off to vacation in tropics (you think they are gonna spend it in North Dakota with the unwashed LOL) to swill Thunderbird and chase their Mr/Misstress and count their payoff $$$$
Again, more people watching T-Bow get his arse stomped then out protesting the cramdown…..the weasel see the heat receeding……and please, dont say they care about all those polls showing that the people hate CrappyCare, they are up there in DC wipin’ their arse with them as they turn their 5-star food (paid for by socialist lobbiest) in to crap!
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It’s great to be a loser!
Just ask Ford and the Detroit Lion cubs.
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Of course the Amnesty cramdown will come hot on the heels of the Medical care takeover!
Hell, half of the GOP establishment – McCain, Graham, McConnell are all 100% behind it the last go around!
IMHO, the RINO GOP establishment aint too on happy with that outcome. Basically, the establishment GOP is “Big Government for Big Business” and the D party is “Big Government for Big Unions” so what you got is a real nice synergy here to expand government and line the pockets of their eltiest supporters…..
Hey, if you are a rich politically connected union or corporate type then times are good in Facist/Socialist Amerika!
The rest of us (ie the Bill payers) are screwed – they just hope to keep enough of us down with circus (ie football, tiger scandals, etc) and crumbs of bread (ie welfare)….
People need to wake up on whats really the word – and in this case it aint thunderbird!
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Speaking of losing, MFG might see his beloved Saints lose to the Redskins, who lost to the Lions.
MI Conservative – Just be thankful for the 1991 season: Eric Kramer, Barry Sanders and Herman Moore, etc.
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Justmary…just read your post…now I’M jealous! I’m so glad you got to go, and that my young grandson got to hang with ‘em! You’re a gem!
Semper Fi, darlin’
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Dolphins beat Patriots on last minute FG 22-21…..
That was a weak effort as usual for the Dolphins, but at least they are still technically eligible for the playoffs…
Good kick, Carp…
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It’s still Happening
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Yahoo -
Your team beats the Patriots at the end and you’re bitching?
If you wanted to see a weak effort, you should have seen the Lions.
I cannot understand why they are showing the Cowboys and Giants (at least in Detroit) rather than the Redskins – Saints overtime.
I am so sick of Joe “Mr. Monotone” Buck (the world’s most overrated sportscaster) on Fox.
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MI Conservative -
If you will note on your post the CBS poll +17 really skews things for Obama. That was the poll in which there was a +13 adjustment for Democratic responses.
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Saints are unstoppable.
This was their day to lose, the way the skins were playing, and they won.
It will be good to see the Saints win the SB if they do. Leave the Lions as the only of the loser teams from the 70s never to have won one
Bucs have Packers have, Saints will. Bears have.
Falcons got in but lost. Rams won one, Cardinals got in but lost.
We need to start a campaign to urge the Lions’ ownership to sell the team or get serious.
Imagine if teams feared the Lions again, heh.
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and, note that cBS hasn’t posted another poll since!
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has MFG recovered from the Saints’ win yet??
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The Saints won!
They were as dead as Ulysses S Grants grandfather, the Redskins kicker missed a 20 yard FG with a minute left
Wow, that must hurt
Redskins always give us a hard game
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Hey Yahoo, the Dolphins won, they’re back in it!
Good for them, I like Ricky Williams
Saints-Dolphins in the Big Game, what do you think?
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I was screaming at the top of my lungs, JR
To be honest with you, I had given up hope
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rwy, the Detriot Lions have applied to join the Big Ten…though word is that the Big Ten schools are resisting on the grounds that the Lions would lower the Conference’s competitive ranking. Developing…
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Oh, no way. Pats Saints and I will root for the saints.
If the Dolphins do by some fluke make it, I will hate the Saints forever if they beat us.
nah, not really, I’m a Drew Brees fan and I have always wanted the poor Saints to do well.
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Well, the Lions have Stafford and that big wide receiver, which is a start
They need to start drafting big lineman
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Lions have never recovered from Barry Sanders retiring
I saw him once at the Dome
What a talent he was
Shame he never got a ring…
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If we hadn’t collapsed against the ****ing Bills last week, which should have gotten us thrown out of the league, the Dolphins would be tied with New England now and a game up on the Jets, who we have beaten twice, instead of tied with them.
Dolphins’ last 4 games are all critical must wins.
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New England is a very fine offensive team but their secondary is a joke, worst in the league
Dolphins have a real chance I think
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Dolphins now go on the road for 2 games, Jags, and Titans, they should win those, but the Titans are not sissies.
Then we are at home against the Texans who always beat us for some annoying reason, and then at home against the Steelers, who will be in a must win game by then as well.
Tough schedule, much tougher than last year, and we need every game. It’s possible we could lose all 4, if we play like we did last week against Buff-a-blo.
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The toughness of the league shows you why you cannot afford to lose games that you should win or have a chance to.
We got smothered in NE earlier, we lost to the Saints who normally would be an easy game for us but now they are awesome and will be for the next 5 years for sure.
The Buffalo loss was disgusting, as was the loss to Atlanta, and the Chargers were another team that we can beat, and even though they are tough, we cannot afford to lose to them.
Tough year for Miami, I predict 8-8 and out of the playoffs.
If we CAN win the last 4 and sneak in as a Wildcard, we will be hot, and might give the AFC some problems….. But no chance to win the SB. None.
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I’ll bet you a nickel that both Indy and the Pats fail in the AFC playoffs and some dark horse slips into the Super Bowl
I’m thinking SD or Dolphins
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SD, I’d believe, Dolphins can forget it, they will not even see the playoffs unless they win 4 tough games in a row, any one of which they could easily lose.
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As far as Indy and the Pats failing, yes, I’d buy it, but Miami has to get there, first, and they have a tough schedule this year. The only easy games were the Bills, and they lost one of those.
Can you belive that? We played the Bucs once and the Bills twice, and those were the ONLY easy games all year, and we lost one of them.
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No games are easy
The freakin Rams almost beat us!
I’m thinking SD wins the AFC
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It’s going to be hard to beat the Saints going forward
Dolphins got 34 points and lost, Skins got 30 and lost, even 40 may not be enough to beat the Saints…
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Amnesty WILL come on the heels of the healthcare scam. The three-legged stool of healthcare, crap-n-trade and amnesty will be pushed on the people – and people like George Soros will be behind the scenes to make sure things pass. Those three items alone spell the end of America – no way we could recover in the next century.
We would need to clean house – and I mean CLEAN HOUSE in the Republican party in order to make something useful of it. There are too many neo-cons and compromisers (can ya hear me NOW Lindsey?) that still can do way too much damage. The problem is that they are already in power, want to keep that power and will do what they can to keep it and gain more – and to HELL with the voters that put them there.
The gene pool in D.C. needs about 10 times more chlorine than normal.
And good luck to the person who can unseat Pigliosi in S.F. – that district is forevermore tainted with the stench of radical leftism. She would need to pass on before losing in that district. Or else the district would need to fall into the ocean . . .
As far as the original post, I’m glad McCain didn’t win. But like the ‘96 election, he was as good for Repubs as Bob Dole was. I was doing a little Christmas shopping yesterday, and while searching the local bookstore for some gems, I ran across the following – “Republican Gomorrah: Inside the Movement that Shattered the Party” by Max Blumenthal. From what I could tell, basically ol’ Max decided to try to rip the Christian Right a new one – how they have infiltrated the Repubs, made them extremists, yada yada yada. Sounds like an afterthought on the whole “I hate W” puking session.
I’d be interested in reading it – only to see how this guy’s brain works. I’m sure the goobers at DailyKos and Huffington could have a field day with the book. But it would be interesting to see the “other side’s” game plans for a change.
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yep.
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Deckard, you’re right about Piglosi never getting beaten out of that seat in Marin. In fact, the last time Piglosi got beat bad was when she tried her fiddling skills against little Johnny…hell, they wrote a song about it!
Now you play a pretty good fiddle, boy
But give the devil her due
I’ll bet a fiddle of gold
Against your soul
‘Cause I think I’m better than you
The boy said my name’s Johnny
And it might be a sin
But I’ll take your bet
And you’re gonna regret
‘Cause I’m the best there’s ever been
Well, as it turned out little Johnny whupped her bad…and she hightailed it all the way across country to here…dammit!
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hattip to Instapundit for the link. Very interesting scatterplot with even MORE interesting trend lines!
enjoy:
http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama.php
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“Good for them, I like Ricky Williams.”
You into dealing drugs, MFG?
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I fear amnesty far more than ObamaCare for several reasons:
1. There are plenty of RINOs that will support in (McCain, Graham, Kyl, Dingbat Twins, etc.) Bennett would be for it were he not up for reelection
2. Unlike ObamaCare and Cap & Trade, it is irreversible
3. Once it passes, we will never be able to close our borders
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OK – so the original post got me to thinking.
Can we fairly compare what-if’s between now and 1976?
What if Ford HAD won? What would that have meant for conservatives in the future?
Can we even compare now vs. then?
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Had Ford won, he probably would have handled both Iran and the economy different than Carter. He might have won reelection in 1980. Regardless, he would have run in 1980. Reagan was 73 in 1984, kind of old for a first run at the White House. I doubt that the Bushes would have been elected. Clinton may have. After the 1996 election, I refuse to speculate.
The GOP would have been more moderate in the 1980s, just as it would be now if McCain were in the WH today.
Just my thoughts.
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Well, well, well, someone in the MSM finally decided that there may just may be a story in Climategate worthy of covering. They leave important information out of the story, but at least it’s a start.
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Yep. However we need to nail down how the data was acquired. It’s the only way to get over the ’stolen emails’ meme. Kinda sad considering NYT had no problem using stolen documents in the Pentagon Papers affair…..
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I’ll believe climate is a problem when climate junkies stop doing stuff like this and take the problem seriously. How many tons of carbon did that train ride issue forth??
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However we need to nail down how the data was acquired.
Yep, but the plot is thickening. Looks like some ex-KGB may have had a roll in getting Climategate rolling.
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Yep, but the plot is thickening. Looks like some ex-KGB may have had a roll in getting Climategate rolling.
Jeez, hope its not my wife’s second cousin.
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Ok. If this is not BJG’s lede tomorrow we’re in trouble. WaPo: White House forgot that they told McChrystal to defeat the Taliban.
Great. So now we have a mission, short as it is now, with no ROE.
Were I McChrystal I just go Roman and do a “for me agin’ me” plan of action. “Gee boss you said kick ass. So I did. It didn’t include the use of tactical nukes in Pakistan? Resignation will be on your desk in the morning.”
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Let the excommunications begin! The Church of Global Warmists continue their inquisitions….
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Like many, amnesty is the killer.
Health Care, Cap & Trade, Card Check and others can be redone BUT amnesty is forever. The only good news from amnesty is that the invaders don’t care about voting but being able to work and suck off the government teet.
The bad news is the coming perfect storm. I will leave it at that, you know my feelings on it. Personally, regardless of what they do or don’t do it is too late, they and most Americans just don’t know it.
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How many tons of carbon did that train ride issue forth?? my dawgie09
Another canard that needs to be exposed, ie that there is excessive carbon going into the atmosphere:
Dr. Roy Spencer, in his book Climate Confusion, points out how man-made global warming alarmists attempt to mislead the public by claiming that global CO2 emissions total about 50 billion tons per year while failing to acknowledge that the total weight of the atmosphere is 5 quadrillion tons. In other words, the 50 billion tons adds to 5 million billion tons, or a mere 10 parts per million — relatively speaking, a trivial change each year. (h/t John McLaughlin).
Who is Roy Spencer?
http://www.drroyspencer.com/
That’s who!
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The only good news from amnesty is that the invaders don’t care about voting but being able to work and suck off the government teet. Gngang
They will most assuredly vote, in order to maintain the fullness of said “teet”. They know which side of the bed that bosum is buttered on.
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Actually, I think amnesty itself wont promote many illegals wanting to change their status.
But this opens the door for massive ACORN, SEIU type voter fraud…..I don’t know how we stop that since we have no power at any level.
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bruce – The general situation wont matter. The country is going to go down hard. Not enough money and people are getting pissed.
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When this monumental pile of economic crap hits the overhead oscillator,I want the neo marxists to be in charge, so they may absorb the first wave of retaliation from the knuckle draggers who elected them.
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requiem
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Yes Dear Al, but the same logic that says such a train trip is trivial to the carbon footprint lays to waste the idea that carbon emissions are significant at all. Water vapor is a much more significant factor in the atmosphere than C02.
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The Warmists are being shown for what they are. Ya know you have hit a nerve when the only response is calling someone an AssH***.
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Yes, dawgie, greenhouse gases are what? 5% of the atmosphere? 97% of that is water vapor.
Carbon Dioxide is like negligible, and then you have to consider that only 3% of it is man made. So we are being asked to believe that a miniscule part of the atmosphere is going to destroy the planet.
It is now and always has been, absurd. What is remarkable is how few people have ever gone to the trouble of this simple analysis.
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Y’know, my new gravatar is especially useful when I post on sites where gravatars and trolls are allowed. Cheering the trolls on while making fun of their shallowness and willingness to be slaves to the state….useful idiots, etc. I havent enjoyed myself that much in a long time. Libs have no sense of humor as you know.
Please advise any sites that have gravatars and trolls, thanks. I am having too much fun.
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heh, Bruce, keep swinging….
Cards beating Vikes, I love the Vikings but I’m totally for the Cards in this game, GO CARDS!
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Hey RWY, what are you still doing up?
I’m with you, go Cards. Kurt Warner is one of the most unlikely pro football heroes you can imagine.
I think I like your Dolphins better than you do. They are limited with a rook qb but I enjoy watching them when I can.
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You know, Bruce, I only watched the first quarter of the Dolphins-Patriots game, and I was disgusted because Miami was getting blown off the ball on both offense and defense, just like the Gators were last night.
Watching the highlights now, though, Miami gave up only one big play in all the last three quarters, and really challenged New England physically in the second half. Pass rush was good, and the secondary redeemed itself with 2 picks. Front 4 on defense played well too, stopping the Pats at the Miami 5 yard line.
Miami’s offensive line was not able to push the run, but they did do a much better job of protecting the QB in the second half.
So, maybe they are not done yet. They fought hard for this win, and deserved it. They need to play that way all 60 minutes if they want to go into the playoffs.
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Farve picked off, Cards ball at their own 41….
Too early, but Vikes might be in trouble.
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Bruce, keep those Kos Kiddies on their toes.
As the old commercial used to say — “A mind is a terrible thing to waste.”
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RWY, I suspect you are emotionally involved with the Gators and fish. Thankfully, since the Rams moved to St Loo, I can just be a fan.
Dog, you are the resident fhilawsophur here, is it still snowing in Texas?
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Farve is better than he was last season with the Jets. He plays with much more passion and you just have to stay in his face, and rattle him.
Rush the passer, Cards!
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Bruce is talking about Trolipundit.com, Dr…..
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Favre picked again. Cards are going to win!
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Y’know, the same thing might work at HHR…if you sign on with a lib name and then make fun of them…..they hate that. I think I might try that with ? and see what happens. But maybe with ? I should sign on as a NE leftie like Barney or Chuck U Schumer.
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Favre could bring the Vikes back….but the real turf compromises their chances….timing is thrown off, dont you think?
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bruce – are you not on the west coast – be a left coast lefty, you should know them by heart.
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gngang….left coast lefties are toadies….they just go around smelling east coast anus and think they are on the same level. The NE is where the true elites reside, dont you agree?
Besides, I don’t want to sign on as Nancy.
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Also…?…is a NE type.
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in re. Co2, when Mount Pinatubo erupted in 1991 it released as much Co2 in the first few hours as ALL human activity worldwide for an entire year. Maybe Hopenhagen can ban volcanoes too!
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On 2nd thot, gngang, maybe you are right….what about Sean Penn?
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But Justrand, we only have minutes to act!!!!!
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Sean or any other hollyweird leftist, just spew stupid stuff and cozy up to marxists.
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OK, I think the Cards have it….I am signing off, bjg is the greatest.
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Cheers Bruce, as always we are thrilled you’re with us.
Where’s Jan been lately? I miss her, maybe she is mad when we bash McCain.
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Bruce,
Right now in the Dallas area, no snow. But its Texas, that could change in a hour. Need a weak southernly front to get moisture back in the air.
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Trolipundit. LOL. I saw Varones posted there for the first time in at least a month. JokeLeaf still pushing that the stock market is good?
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JokeLeaf has not posted in weeks, I am surprised he did not post when the jobless rate dropped to 10.0…..
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I still like Poli, one of the original guys to break with the Bush republicans and call foul.
Don’t know why he tolerates the insufferable JL but still, I like Poli and Varones. I miss Sparxx too, wish he’d show, maybe I’ll go bother him.
He’s at “Conservatives with Attitude” right?
And, I wonder where Ace is too.
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Yes, you can find mike at CwA.