But No Other Choice, Redux

2010 November 24
by drdog09

Another Palin piece? Hey, why not. Actually I want to expand on a thread that Retlaw, and BC commented on last night. But I warn you this is such a long shot that it might as well be an interesting mind game. The reason is in the 250+ years of the Republic we have never had it happen. So here goes —

Its mid 2012, Palin has just won the Florida and Texas primaries and is up by 20+ delegates against Romney. By error a memo is leaked from the RNC that ‘the establishment’ will initiate a floor fight at the convention against Palin. Palin is able to substantiate the veracity of the contents and the author. The week following the leak Palin announces she will mount an independent campaign. As an independent she goes on to best the GOP challenger in CA, WA, AK, HI, MT, ID.

Past November 2nd, the popular vote placement is Romney, Palin, Obama. The EV counts are 201, 150, 187 respectively. No one reaches the magic 271. The Electoral College remains dead locked. Romney offers the VP slot to Palin who now is in no mood for it. Why? Because the Democrats are in no mood for a GOPer to be in the Oval Office. Palin is offered a deal, compliments of the Rider of the Blue Dress, accept Hillary as VP and we will get Obama’s EV’s for you.

Let it be written, let it be done.

Yes it is definitely Twilight Zone material. It would probably be tough for Palin to consider the split once she committed to the GOP primary process. But the right trigger event might tick her off enough to just go for it. Much of the rest would be determined by as much as when such an event would occur as the players involved. But there is nothing in the law that says it couldn’t happen.

[flack jacket on]

93 Responses leave one →
  1. 2010 November 24 9:42 am

    IF NOT PALIN, THEN WHO ????????????????????????

  2. 2010 November 24 9:47 am

    Top 5 worst GOP candidates for 2012:

    5. Mitch Daniels
    4. John Thune
    3. Newt Gingrich
    2. Mitt Romney
    1. George Pataki

  3. 2010 November 24 9:50 am

    Top 5 “best” GOP candidates for 2012:

    5. Jon Kyl
    4. Bobby Jindal
    3. Sara Palin
    2. Jim Demint
    1. Mike Pence

  4. 2010 November 24 10:14 am
    beej permalink

    oh Eph. There has to be room in the top five worst for Huckleberry and Bloomberg.

    and for some reason I don’t like jon kyl for top five. 49th of 50 maybe…what is it that he did? It’ll come to me. I think it was something to do with amnesty.

  5. 2010 November 24 10:15 am
    bc3b permalink

    Not sure about Kyl on two counts:

    1. He has supported Comprehensive Immigration Reform in the past
    2. He’s older than he looks and will be 70 in 2012

  6. 2010 November 24 10:18 am

    Last I checked Kyl was over 95% ACU rating folks

  7. 2010 November 24 10:19 am

    -Bloomberg is no longer a Republican or he would be #1

    -Huck stays out of the top 5 worst b/c he is quite pro-life

  8. 2010 November 24 10:20 am
    beej permalink

    I don’t know what to say, actually, Dr. Dog. I hope the process is much smoother than that, because if it would fall out like your scenario, then we will have another round of fights for the duration of the administration that questions the legitimacy of the president. And this time, perhaps outside nations might concur with the nutjobs…too frightening to think about…

    I do expect there to be constitutional crisis’ in our future, but I hope this isn’t one of them. We’ve seen how the Dems deal with constitutional affairs as it is. They won’t care one shred about following ‘the rules.’ And as mentioned on the last thread, there are plenty of Repubs who don’t care about it either.

  9. 2010 November 24 10:21 am

    At this point the only way the RINOs and conservatives help each other out is a Palin/Romney type ticket.

    Otherwise the vote is going to get split in 2012.

  10. 2010 November 24 10:22 am
    beej permalink

    Thanks, bc, I knew there was something that for me would keep him out of the top five, at least.

    What do you all think about George Allen? Is he all macaqued out?

  11. 2010 November 24 10:23 am
    beej permalink

    What if Romney doesn’t run?

  12. 2010 November 24 10:24 am


    …book it

    she will need to go wide left in order to win the GE.

  13. 2010 November 24 10:26 am
    beej permalink

    Nah, I don’t like that pairing. Guiliani ought to be AG. suits him. Or something with terror oversight. Don’t you think his skills would be a bit wasted as VP?

  14. 2010 November 24 10:29 am

    Top 5 worst GOP candidates for 2012: revised…

    5. Mitch Daniels
    4. Newt Gingrich
    3. Mitt Romney
    2. George Pataki
    1. RON PAUL

  15. 2010 November 24 10:31 am
    beej permalink

    If they don’t they are idiots.
    There is evidence to this. 🙂

  16. 2010 November 24 10:39 am
    mulletover permalink

    Obama will not be the democratic nominee for president.

    He may not serve out his first term.


    Fire away.

    I am in the foxhole with dickwad.

  17. 2010 November 24 10:41 am
    mpthompson permalink

    On the day before Thanksgiving, the timing of this is suspect, but the DOJ voter intimidation interim report has been issued by the bi-partisan US Commission on Civil Rights.

    Others are saying (I haven’t read it yet, but page 85 looks interesting) the report indicates the DOJ did attempt a cover up and suggests the White House may have been directly implicated in this cover up.

    Race Neutral Enforcement of the Law? DOJ and the New Black Panther Party Litigation

    Do you think the mainstream media will bury this thing? Better get this information to as many people as you can.

  18. 2010 November 24 10:43 am
    bc3b permalink

    With Palin/Pawlenty the traditional roles will need to be revised. The VP is usually the attack dog. Pawlenty as an attack dog. ROFL. And, Palin is so laid back and shy.

    Seriously, Sarah relishes kicking butt and she has enough testosterone for both of them.

    I’m gonna buy the Cuda’s new book on the way home. Something to read while the Lions lose tomorrow.

  19. 2010 November 24 10:44 am

    “The VP is usually the attack dog. Pawlenty as an attack dog. ROFL. And, Palin is so laid back and shy.”

    RUDY will be her VP. Book it folks!!!

  20. 2010 November 24 10:45 am
    brucefdb permalink

    Speaking of Sarah, now she is firing back at the Bushes and getting in more digs at Mother Obama. 🙂


  21. 2010 November 24 10:48 am
    brucefdb permalink

    Eph, no way she is going to pick a pro abort VP…..no way. And she doesn’t need an attack dog….she does it herself. 🙂

  22. 2010 November 24 10:52 am
    brucefdb permalink

    Whew! Long report, mpt. If it is too bad your assumption that it will be buried is correct.

  23. 2010 November 24 10:57 am

    22. LOL! Great stuff

  24. 2010 November 24 11:13 am

    “IF NOT PALIN, THEN WHO ????????????????????????”

    Castle\Chaffee 2012!!! 😉

  25. 2010 November 24 11:13 am
    mpthompson permalink

    It is a long report, but you can read the introduction and the tail end of the report to get the gist. Hopefully there is more than enough smoke there for the GOP in the House to begin investigations with an endoscope.

  26. 2010 November 24 11:19 am

    26 KH,

    Exactly bro.

    I’m waiting for the RINOs to come up with their pick so I can provide a complete beat down

  27. 2010 November 24 11:32 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Castle\Chaffee 2012!!! 🙂


  28. 2010 November 24 11:33 am

    I’m going to be so sick when Obama wins a second term.

  29. 2010 November 24 11:34 am
    drdog09 permalink

    By the way, you will never know that Big Brother put a chip in you, unless zygotes have eyes at that point — http://www.gizmag.com/barcodes-on-embryos/17017/

  30. 2010 November 24 11:36 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Well at least was riding coach right?

  31. 2010 November 24 11:36 am

    33 WTFO!!!!

  32. 2010 November 24 11:37 am

    35 – True, lol.

  33. 2010 November 24 11:44 am

    “I’m going to be so sick when Obama wins a second term.”


    The divide between RINOs and conservatives is so big right now that is exactly what we are looking at.

    We need to gain on the House seats and take the Senate if Hussein wins in 2012. That should lessen the blow.

  34. 2010 November 24 11:48 am
    bc3b permalink

    KnightHawk –

    “IF NOT PALIN, THEN WHO ????????????????????????”

    Castle\Chaffee 2012!!!

    MFG’s dream ticket?

  35. 2010 November 24 12:19 pm

    “The divide between RINOs and conservatives is so big right now that is exactly what we are looking at. ”

    Hence my comment. 😉

    Willow\Piper 2040

  36. 2010 November 24 12:25 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Hence my comment.

    Willow\Piper 2040

    Thank God! I will be dead by then.

  37. 2010 November 24 12:33 pm

    Which is why you should run in 2012 Dr. 🙂

  38. 2010 November 24 12:55 pm

    Milf alert: Actress Jennifer Jason Leigh has filed for divorce

  39. 2010 November 24 1:34 pm

    I don’t think he’s a gazillionaire he’s some film director\screen writer dude though no doubt he makes a good living, interesting though she only waited about 6mo after popping out a puppy to file.

  40. 2010 November 24 1:49 pm


    TSA turning off machines today\tomorrow to hide issue from holiday travelers?

  41. 2010 November 24 1:52 pm

    46 – Not great then again not really a surprise.

  42. 2010 November 24 2:35 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    Senator Kyl Gets A 200 Million Dollar Earmark

    Ugh! Stop! Stop! Stop! The bastards couldn’t even wait three days. And Kyl supposed to be one of the good guys when it comes to earmarks. Yeah, it is supposedly for a “settlement” that will save the government money down the line, but if it is such a good idea then put it in a separate bill and vote it up or down. This stuffing of unrelated crap into bills must stop.

    I’m PO’d. This kind of crap totally undermines the GOP and the voting public would be right to think they just returned to their old ways of feeding at the trough. I’m “this” close to renouncing all hope in the GOP and tuning everything out. I simply can’t handle politics anymore. The bastards are too corrupt.

  43. 2010 November 24 2:46 pm
    beej permalink

    He’s off the list.

  44. 2010 November 24 2:50 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Jon Kyl Builds $200 million earmark into bill:


    This guy is no where close to Presidential material.

  45. 2010 November 24 2:56 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    He’s off the list. — beej

    But on another less complimentary list, eh?

  46. 2010 November 24 3:01 pm
    beej permalink

    Yes. The one where he is no longer employed by the citizens of the US.

  47. 2010 November 24 3:43 pm

    Top 5 “best” GOP candidates for 2012: revised

    5. VACANT
    4. Bobby Jindal
    3. Sara Palin
    2. Jim Demint
    1. Mike Pence

  48. 2010 November 24 3:47 pm
    beej permalink

    Revisions accepted, comrade Eph.

  49. 2010 November 24 3:47 pm
    beej permalink

    slim pickens isn’t it?

  50. 2010 November 24 4:06 pm

    EPH your #4 has said no to 2012 btw as well (at least as P).

  51. 2010 November 24 4:40 pm
    Colorado KnightOwl permalink

    I like Jindal and would vote for him, however he is not great public speaker (with or without a teleprompter)…..To get the squishies in the middle we need an orator…and I am fresh out on who fills that bill

  52. 2010 November 24 4:42 pm
    Colorado KnightOwl permalink

    Eph, what bugs you about Thune?

  53. 2010 November 24 5:26 pm

    60. He’s an empty suit with no personality

  54. 2010 November 24 5:26 pm

    I guess #5 could be Paul Ryan

  55. 2010 November 24 5:27 pm

    Something aint right about Chrisite folks. I smell RINO at some point

  56. 2010 November 24 5:48 pm
    judyt2009 permalink

    Drdog..I read your post thinking it was too early for eggnog so you must have broken into the hard cider early…I am too worn out to stretch my mind that far

  57. 2010 November 24 6:21 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Oooh I be nipping at the hard cider for almost a month…. 🙂 Too bad I am almost out.

  58. 2010 November 24 6:30 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    This shows that there is not a spit’s worth of difference between the GOP and the Democrat Party.

    The Democrats will tell you that they look out for the little guy and they will tax the rich guys. The Democrats will tell you that they know what is best for you and the country. And then go ahead and play nanny to you.

    The Republicans talk a good game about the individual and less government. That they will rein in government (amazing how it grows larger & faster under the GOP) and cut taxes. It is they the GOP elites who know how to do this, none of these average tea party types need apply (they did not go to the right schools, come from the right backgrounds, etc).

    Same result different party. Both grow government, both believe that only THEY know how to run government, both believe that they are the smartest and best. The rest of you riff raft (both Democrat & Republican members) need not apply. You just are not good enough and not smart enough to know it.

    This is where Glenn Beck is right in that the progressive elites are running both parties in a rigged game.

    No more, time to show the elites the door. If this means burning down the GOP, so be it. If it means 3rd party, so be it. Looks more and more like 2012 will be the time to leave the GOP (hello WHIG Party) and start a new party without these nimrods.

  59. 2010 November 24 6:44 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    I like Jindal and would vote for him, however he is not great public speaker

    Neither were either Bush and they became president. I doubt he can be worse than Bush 43, although he did have his moments after 9/11.

  60. 2010 November 24 6:46 pm
    RepublicanPundit permalink

    We don’t need to start a new party. By election time, we will own the party. the third party will be disaffect RINO’s

  61. 2010 November 24 6:47 pm
    retlaw permalink

    2012 dream team for pres and vp–

    W.E. Coyote and Kelly Ayotte

    (sounds like it should rhyme and make good verses for poetry nights)

  62. 2010 November 24 6:48 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    gnqanq, I’m with you. Seeing the crap Kyl pulled in the last week with earmarks just makes me sick. A pox on all of them.

  63. 2010 November 24 6:51 pm
    bc3b permalink

    The leadership of both parties look out for special interests.

    With the Democrats it’s unions, minorities and left-wing groups (e.g. environmentalists)

    With the Republicans it’s multi-national corporations, the Chamber of Commerce and major contributors.

    It’s very telling that the Bush41s like Clinton better than Palin. He may be an imoral sleezeball but, damn it, he’s an Ivy Leaguer.

    You’re right gnqanq. No one looks out for the country class.

  64. 2010 November 24 6:55 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    mpt – the GOP senate pisses me off. They play along saying they get it, that they have listened to us AND then go back to their old ways. It (GOP senate) is nothing but a bunch of elitists.

    Somebody should leave a horse’s head on Mitch McConnel’s door step.

  65. 2010 November 24 7:02 pm
    janzam permalink

    Dear BJGers

    I am pausing from the insightful dialogues around here to plug a holiday…Thanksgiving.

    There is a turkey in the janzam refrigerature ready for the oven tomorrow, along with a small contingency of family and friends to share it with around our old oak table. I am grateful, each and every year, to have food and friendship in which to share this holiday. The rest of the year is devoted to political turmoil. But, on Thanksgiving I tend to focus my attention on the present, and appreciate it as it stands today.

    So, may each and every one of you have a peaceful and pleasant day tomorrow!

    In other words, Happy Thanksgiving, BJGers!

  66. 2010 November 24 7:05 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Jan, same to ya. Leave nothing on the table but the gobble.

  67. 2010 November 24 7:08 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Happy Thanksgiving to you Janzam.

  68. 2010 November 24 7:09 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    When bills that are passed in both houses go to conference committee the House members have to throw down the gauntlet to the Senate and strip out all earmarks. The squealing from the Senate will be most unpleasant, but necessary.

  69. 2010 November 24 7:09 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone…

  70. 2010 November 24 7:15 pm
    janzam permalink

    🙂 to everyone!

  71. 2010 November 24 7:18 pm
    janzam permalink


    The way I cook, nothing is left on the table!

  72. 2010 November 24 7:31 pm
    retlaw permalink

    Speaking of airport pat downs…

    Some are plotting to take that male enhancement pill so that they will be fully aroused upon going through the TSA groping.

    Which begs the questions: Will the TSA agents have to “hold on to” that piece of evidence?

    And, if one of the TSA agents mistakes the boner for a possible bomb, does the agent’s contract say they have to throw themselves on it and sacrifice themselves in order to save others?

  73. 2010 November 24 7:33 pm

    And, if one of the TSA agents mistakes the boner for a possible bomb, does the agent’s contract say they have to throw themselves on it and sacrifice themselves in order to save others?


    They have established the postiton of designated homo, standing by for that duty.

  74. 2010 November 24 7:40 pm
    retlaw permalink

    As to the ‘Twilight’ scenario laid out by drdog09 at the beginning of this post–

    THAT, DEAR SIR, WOULD BE ONE BAD A**ED NIGHTMARE SCENARIO–ALL THE WAY AROUND. I think if it played out that way, there would be a run on the banks by lots of frightened people from all up and down the political spectrum who would be there to cash in their US savings bonds.

  75. 2010 November 24 7:44 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Eph –

    From what I read on HA tonight the 2010 New Jersey state budget is bigger than its 2009 budget was.

  76. 2010 November 24 7:47 pm
    janzam permalink

    retlaw = walt ?

  77. 2010 November 24 7:48 pm

    indeed, he be a doppleganger

  78. 2010 November 24 7:49 pm
    retlaw permalink

    #81 [IP]
    “They have established the postiton of designated homo, standing by for that duty.”

    To “defuse” the weapon, or to take the full force when it blows to limit collateral damage?

  79. 2010 November 24 7:59 pm

    To “defuse” the weapon, or to take the full force when it blows to limit collateral damage?

    Option #1~~Defuse offending organ by showing nude pic of helen thomas.

    Option#2~~~(Most often used), hide suspect organ withing appropriate body orifice, at
    the descretion of des/hom.

  80. 2010 November 24 8:02 pm
    janzam permalink

    ip —> doppleganger???

  81. 2010 November 24 8:05 pm

    83 BC,

    I have a sneeky feeling Christie is going to be a one term Governor

  82. 2010 November 24 8:06 pm

    Top 5 “best” GOP candidates for 2012: revised

    5. Bob McConnell
    4. Bobby Jindal
    3. Sara Palin
    2. Jim Demint
    1. Mike Pence

  83. 2010 November 24 8:07 pm

  84. 2010 November 24 8:20 pm
    retlaw permalink


    and doppleganger could also be perhaps a MIRROR IMAGE of someone like
    such as the mirror image of Marvin=Nivram
    or Stephen=Nehpest
    or Robert=Trebor
    or Frances=Secnarf
    or Walter=Retlaw

  85. 2010 November 24 9:06 pm

    TSA misses Adam Savage’s 12″ razor blades?

    Happy Thanksgiving – Pumpkin pie…mmmmmmmm

  86. 2010 November 24 9:18 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Pie is in the oven as I type this.

    If I fly next time, I fully expect I will refuse the detector. So after they go for the junk, I’ll just start moaning and have this pleasured look on my face. That ought to stop most of them in their tracks.

  87. 2010 November 24 9:42 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    So after they go for the junk, I’ll just start moaning and have this pleasured look on my face.

    Remember the movie “Little Shop of Horrors”? How the masochistic dental patient (Bill Murry) drove the sadistic dentist (Steve Martin) crazy.

  88. 2010 November 25 2:58 am

    Dr. Dog on his days off.

  89. 2010 November 25 5:48 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Yes I do.

  90. 2010 November 25 6:06 am

  91. 2010 November 25 6:22 am
    retlaw permalink

    Wishing a blessed, peaceful, enjoyable, safe and happy Thanksgiving to all of you here at BJG.

    Asking for you all to keep my 30 year old son (and rest of us) in your prayers. He burned his had badly at his night shift at his manufacturing plant (hot glue, as hot as 400 degrees). Taken by ambulance to Johns Hopkins from our local hosp. to Hopkins. He bandaged it himself and finished the last 4 hours of his shift, and GF forced him to go to the local hosp. for medical attention at 3 A.M. Mrs. Retlaw and son’s GF and I drove the 80 miles down to Baltimore .

    Med people giving doses of morphine, but son is still in a lot of pain.

    2nd and 3rd degree burns to right hand. Apparently no nerve damage. Don’t know whether or not will need skin grafts. His main worry is not being able to work (had signed up to work W, Th, F, and Sat), giving up valuable overtime, why did this happen to him when he is trying so hard to do good things, and other such things.


  92. 2010 November 25 9:23 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Prayers offered. May he recover quickly.

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