Kalifornia and the Point of No Return; Oakland Has Debit/ID Card for Illegals

2010 November 28
by bc3b

Since so many BJGers live in the People’s Republik, I thought you might be intetrested in this column from the OC Register. While purple states like Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin said “no more” on November 2 by replacing Democratic governors and state legislatures with Republicans, Kalifornians opted for full speed ahead. When will it stop? How bad will it get before Kalifornians decide it’s time to stop? Just don’t expect the rest of the country to volunteer to bail you our because it ain’t gonna happen.

SACRAMENTO – Anyone who has dealt with a loved one deeply involved in some destructive behavior understands that there’s only so much you can do until the person hits whatever low point is necessary to spark a commitment to turn things around.

I think of my beloved California in the same light. What a great state, but it remains on a collision course with reality. We can’t keep spending money we don’t have, punishing those who pay the bills and ignoring the advice of truth tellers. Californians are known for crafting new realities, but the financial markets are immune to Disney-like fantasies. Eventually, the fiscal self-destruction has to stop – and adults have to step in with an intervention to divert our state from its dangerous path.


The website Tech Ticker reported recently that “[m]unicipal bonds have plummeted in recent days, as investors have suddenly focused on huge state and city budget deficits that there’s no easy way to fix. Nowhere has this collapse been more visible than California.”

A federal bailout, Tech Ticker reports, is unlikely with Republicans gaining control of the House, which is a good thing given that bailing out destructive behaviors, in individuals or governments, only prolongs the misery. The financial industry analyst quoted in the story predicts that the state will eventually default on its debt, yet another sobering thought in a state desperately in need of sobriety.

Meanwhile, California’s pension debt for government employees is estimated as high as a half-trillion dollars, the state’s unemployment fund has gone upside-down, and a new Stanford University report pins the overhang for local government pensions at $200 billion. Yet the state’s spending addicts still don’t recognize their problem and treat those who try to help them as troublemakers.

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Meanwhile, Oakland, the city “Moonbeam” used to run, is introducing a new ID card that doubles as a debit card for the benefit of illegal (err I mean undocumented) aliens. After all, unless you create a welcoming environment these wonderful people won’t come and bury your cities and state further in debt.

OAKLAND, Calif. — A Northern California city is moving forward with plans for a municipal identification card that is being touted as the first in the nation that would double as a full-fledged debit card.

The Oakland City Council this month awarded a contract to issue the cards.

The goal is to help any city residents, including illegal immigrants, who may have difficulty obtaining a state-issued ID.

Card holders would also be able to load money onto their cards and use them wherever ATM cards are welcome. Oakland officials say that would allow people without bank accounts to avoid high check-cashing fees or the need to walk around with large amounts of cash.

San Francisco and Washington, D.C., are among the other cities that offer municipal identification cards, although neither includes a full debit option.

“Moonbeam” did such a great job of destroying Kalifornia 30 years ago the voters are bringing his back for an encore with San Francisco’s Gavin Nutcase to help.

Hat tip: OC Register and WSMV4

32 Responses leave one →
  1. 2010 November 28 7:59 am
    bc3b permalink

    Warning: NFL thread is below. If you find NFL cheerleaders, don’t go there.

  2. 2010 November 28 8:24 am
    justrand permalink

    the companion news to yours, bc3b:

    Oakland named fifth most dangerous city in nation


    [oddly, Michigan has TWO cities (Detroit and Flint) in the ‘Top Five’]

  3. 2010 November 28 8:50 am
    Colorado KnightOwl permalink

    Vote with your feet….flee while you can

  4. 2010 November 28 9:31 am
    JustMary permalink

    #3 Believe me, I want to. Working on things right now.

  5. 2010 November 28 9:52 am
    janzam permalink

    The fickle finger of fate struck CA when it elected Jerry Brown to his second opportunity of being governor. During his first term he was the one who paved the way for unions to create all the pension chaos by giving them so much bargaining power. Apparently in one of the ads I missed, he even said that he was the one who created the mess, and was consequently the only one who could now “fix” it.

    What hubris!

    I heard the item about the Oakland debit/ID card this morning and almost gagged.

    People have compared California’s fiscal woes to that of an addict. And, it increasingly becomes more analogous. And, as with an addict, sometimes the cure lies first in the complete failing, or bottoming out. It seems that CA is headed in that direction…..

  6. 2010 November 28 10:41 am
    bc3b permalink

    [oddly, Michigan has TWO cities (Detroit and Flint) in the ‘Top Five’]

    JR –

    And we’re proud of it. I didn’t think Flint had enough people for a crime to be committed. Don’t you need two?

    The one disappointment is that St. Louis was voted #1, but Detroit is asking for a recount and I have a trunk full of uncounted ballots.

  7. 2010 November 28 10:53 am
    bc3b permalink

    Janzam –

    Public employee unions aren’t unique to California. Even red states have employees who are members of the SEIU and the AFSCME. it’s just that Kalifornia’s benefits are much more lucrative.

    My wife, who is a para-pro (teacher’s aide), is a member of AFSCME. It’s a condition of employment. She has no choice.

    Public employees always had better benefits than public sector employees. Now the pay is as good or better (in the case of federal) and the benefits are still great.

    Teacher’s aides aren’t terribly overpaid. My wife makes about $17k but the benefits are important since I am self-employed.

  8. 2010 November 28 12:42 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    I say this with all the warmth and care I can muster — YOU FOLKS IN CA ARE FNNNNN’ NUTS!!

    You ought to be burning down the Oakland city hall.

  9. 2010 November 28 1:01 pm
    janzam permalink


    Just look at our elections and you will note that the majority of people living here do not have their heads screwed on “right!”

    It will take an event here that will effect them negatively, where they begin to blame those in charge (the dems) for all their hard luck. Only when this happens will voting trends change around here.

    Unfortunately, such recognition of the sad shape we are in may be accommpanied by a riot or two, in the process!

  10. 2010 November 28 1:26 pm
    mulletover permalink

    Praying for the few conservatives left in California.

    The nuts and fruits and union jerks can sink with the state in the inevitable disaster.

    Either God or man will destroy it.

  11. 2010 November 28 1:42 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    Jan – not likely.

    First, democrats/liberals LIE. Always have and always will. It is those evil republicans/conservatives. IF we only spent more, if we only taxed more, if we only….

    Second, the media will give cover to the democrats/liberals and hide the truth. They will continue to give cover to them.

    Third, people can not handle the truth any more. They would rather believe a LIE because it gives cover to them, what they have done and what they believe.

    Things will have to get a lot worse first before it gets better. Start thinking rebuilding. That is how bad it will have to get. To many leeches and too many politicians buying votes.

  12. 2010 November 28 2:00 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Sooner or later it has to collapse. Probably the biggest problem in Kalifornia is the Hispanic population. A majority of students in Kalifornia Publik Skuls are non-white, with Hispanics being the largest minority.

  13. 2010 November 28 2:29 pm
    janzam permalink

    I agree with everything gnqanq and bc says about CA, including that the bottom is going to not only have to be reached, but also drop out before any mindsets are changed. Even then, many of the elites on the west coast cities (where I live, gag, gag) will probably not be swayed, even with Armageddon type circumstances seizing the state.

    But, I do think eventually enough people will come to the center, and right of center, where this state will become less blue in the future. Some examples I can cite for such polyannish thinking might be a sprinkling of radical propositions turned back by the voters in recent elections, showing that there remain a few granules of common sense among some people here.

  14. 2010 November 28 2:35 pm
    janzam permalink

    bc, The hispanic vote is definitely a factor to be considered in future CA elections. As I’ve said before, I think Whitman’s “nannygate” episode turned the election radically against her in the closing days of the election, effecting not only her but many of those republican candidates downwind from her on the ballot. As you said our public school system in now 60% hispanic enrollment.

    However, in other CDs throughout the country the percentages of hispanics who voted for R’s was higher, especially in those areas running hispanic candidates. I think CA is going to have to cultivate conservative latino candidates here, such as a Devin Nunes who ran unopposed in the central valley district of CA.

  15. 2010 November 28 2:41 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Nothing disparging to the BJG folks was intended by my remark. ‘Cause I figure no one on this blog voted for Moonbeam. If you did, my heart felt, “Bless your Heart”. But at some point the fecal matter has to hit the rotary oscillator with the voters.

    By the way, watch what the US does with Spain and Portugal. If the US begs out of participation in an IMF/Euro bailout then probably not much hope that Calif will get one either. They are not linked, but its a marker to what the thinking is in DC. (Looney as that place is….)

  16. 2010 November 28 2:48 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Janzam –

    Imagine what effect an amnesty will have in several ways: 1) Amnesty will enable chain immigration. Those sponsored by the new citizens will likely settle in states where those who sponsored them. 2) This will create an even larger permanent underclass as those sponsored by the former illegals will join them in utilizing state funds: welfare, education, hospital emergency rooms, etc. Amnesty will have the greatest impact on Kalifornia, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

  17. 2010 November 28 3:34 pm
    RepublicanPundit permalink

    California will have to suffer pain before the lib head is cut off.

    Not one penny for them.

  18. 2010 November 28 3:53 pm
    JustMary permalink

  19. 2010 November 28 3:56 pm
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 –

    Suburb is somewhat of a misnomer for Hamtramck, MI as it is surrounded by the city of Detroit. For decades it was a Polish enclave, very blue collar but the cleanest city you ever saw. It remained that way until about 15-20 years ago when it experienced a Muslim invasion.

    The only people left in Hamtramck who are not Muslim are old people waiting to die. Hamtramck is the city whose city council approved playing the Muslim call to prayer over loudspeakers. It has been transformed from a clean, relatively crime-free city into a filthy hell hole.

  20. 2010 November 28 4:05 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    JM, that gives a whole new meaning of ‘do it to the children’. Sad really. But the old saying, ‘ask not what you wish, you may get it’, comes to mind.

  21. 2010 November 28 4:07 pm
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 –

    Here’s an article from the Detroit News on Hamtramck’s bankruptcy. The other cities mentioned (Pontiac, Ecorse and Benton Harbor) are almost all black. Court-ordered bussing in the 1970s converted Pontiac from a nice, intergrated city to an all black city.


  22. 2010 November 28 4:09 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    BC, Thanks for the heads up. Ya don’t know anything till you get the local color of it. Sorry to hear its headed for oblivion. Does Mich law permit dis-incorporation of a city? That happens occasionally down here in Texas. Perot tried it 5-6 back against Westlake township.

  23. 2010 November 28 4:10 pm

    The chickens are coming home to roost ha ha,
    The union goons have screwed the pooch ha ha,
    Their “free” health care dreams are washed away ha ha
    Having pushed obammercare they now rue the day ha ha
    That they allowed themselves to be so seduced ha ha.

  24. 2010 November 28 4:35 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    A scathing Irish perspective on the Irish meltdown — http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/led-by-little-people-with-little-minds-and-little-horizons-2439428.html

    Sounds kind of like here, pre Nov 2nd and all.

  25. 2010 November 28 4:38 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Many cities, counties and states are facing the same problems as Kalifornia. The key question is which leaders have the courage to face the problems rather than run from them.

  26. 2010 November 28 4:41 pm
    bc3b permalink

    dr. dog09 –

    In the old days the people of Hamtramck were defined by what parish district they were in: St. Stanislaus, St. Ladislaus or St. Florian. All three had grade and high schools through the 1960s. St. Florian closed its high school about 7 years ago.

  27. 2010 November 28 4:57 pm
    justrand permalink


    and then you later APOLOGIZED!!!

    Dude, being called “FNNNNN’ NUTS” is just about the nicest thing anyone says to us out here anymore! 🙂

    I keep hoping we’ll cede the lower third of California to Mexico, the coastline to Red China, and let the sane folks have all the rest!!! We’ll turn the water back on in the Valley and feed the world!!!!!!!! (again)

  28. 2010 November 28 5:01 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    and then you later APOLOGIZED!!!
    Realizing the error of my ways, I implicated the fine CA folks of BJG so I felt amends were in order. I still think the rest of the CA electorate is FNNNNN’ NUTS!!”

  29. 2010 November 28 5:18 pm
    brucefdb permalink

    IP…..hahahaha….love the gravatar. Dog, no offense taken by us morons that live here.

  30. 2010 November 28 6:25 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Have a sister-in-law who lives out in CA. Have toured the state twice. It has a lot to offer compared to may other states. Not to knock Texas, it has a lot to offer too. But you can’t in the space of a 2 day leisurely drive go from the desert in the South to Redwoods in the North here in Texas. The variety is just mind boggling.

  31. 2010 November 28 8:15 pm
    janzam permalink


    Appreciate your acknowledgment of CA’s attributes. It’s a beautiful state, with lots of variety in it’s landscapes as well as it’s people. Where else do you have the moonscape of Death Valley to the North coast where redwoods meet the ocean? There are the trolly cars, the Golden Gate Bridge in Frisco, the art and culture in L.A., and the madcap, anything-goes atmosphere of Venice Beach. CA is a virtual kaleidoscope of venues and environments!

    I love this state, but angst over it’s politics.

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