Planned Anarchy

2011 April 3
by drdog09


Something to ponder. Would the US population be amicable to a dissolution of or a partial shutdown of the Federal govt? Now before you scoff at the idea consider this from Rasmussen —



A majority of voters are fine with a partial shutdown of the federal government if that’s what it takes to get deeper cuts in federal government spending. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 57% of Likely U.S. Voters think making deeper spending cuts in the federal budget for 2011 is more important than avoiding a partial government shutdown. Thirty-one percent (31%) disagree and say avoiding a shutdown is more important. Twelve percent (12%) are not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Republicans want to make more spending cuts in the current budget than Democrats do, but 36% of voters think it would be better to avoid a government shutdown by authorizing spending at a level most Democrats will agree to. Fifty-seven percent (57%) would rather have a shutdown until Democrats and Republicans can agree on deeper spending cuts.

Source

The point is a little less than 2/3rds of the population is open to another type of citizen – govt relationship than the current direction. Now one could take the results of this survey several ways –

  • Americans are nuts and don’t know what they are talking about.
  •  Americans aren’t nuts and know exactly what they want and know the present course is not acceptable.
  •  Americans don’t know what they want but their senses detect dangers the egg heads have no concept of.
  • Americans are in a ‘Anybody but the Bos-Wash crowd’ mindset and its all a Luddite response.

So considering the list is it even possible to have a planned anarchy? Well to have that happen first something else must occur.

One of the core issues for most Americans is the laws by fiat. The existence of the EPA, DoEd, etc are examples of arms of the government of such a mind. So under what circumstances would cause the destruction of these agents? Best guess, governmental or financial collapse. The only rationale of course being that the leadership of the government would not by conscious effort eliminate these agencies. They are a source of the power for those in the inner circles. So it would have to be an external event for which there can be no solution internally. Collapse of the dollar might be one example.

The outcome? Runs the gambit from total anarchy to total despotism and everything in between. This has not been a country of extremes however so I would discount those events. But something in the middle is quite likely. The central government unable to pay its bills loses all power. Free of the influences the various States assume operational control, attempting to fulfill their primary mandate of maintenance of the welfare of the citizens. Riots are put down as the States eliminate welfare payments yet maintain some semblance of order.

Could the States pull this off? Some already are. Montana, Oklahoma and Arizona already have laws on the books stating their sovereignty. There are several other States considering printing their own gold and silver coinage. Commerce law has always been at the trans border State level with the exception of transportation. Essentially several are seeing the freight train coming and are preparing to step off the tracks.

So with a federal government unable to enforce legislation and regulations where are we politically? Think of it as a political time frame. My guess somewhere around the 1920‘s. A wild west show for sure, but a controlled one. Retail commerce contracts back to a buy what you can touch approach. States like NY, Ill and CA have to essentially reboot as their economic producers exist no longer and those pushing for a greens nazi utopia can no longer do so lacking the federal largess to keep their NGO’s running. The emergence of a new set of parties develops as Americans blame existing party structures for the collapse and say ‘no more’.

But its no picnic either. Large companies are free to roam the landscape crushing what they desire. Everyone who was on a dole is no longer. Life expectancy will decrease for a period till a new balance is created. Unemployment will shoot up in the 20‘s as those on the dole can no longer do so. Imports will collapse as the costs for the goods become beyond the reach of most families. Post secondary education becomes something different as the current system will be priced out of the market.



Just because it’s not nice doesn’t mean it’s not miraculous.

— Terry Pratchett

30 Responses leave one →
  1. 2011 April 4 4:25 am
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    drdog09 permalink

  2. 2011 April 4 4:43 am
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    Oceana has always been at war with Eurasia.

  3. 2011 April 4 5:04 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Always.

  4. 2011 April 4 6:30 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Ole Billy Boy was never my cup of tea as President. But you have to give the man credit for being extremely adroit at reading the American mood — http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/153551-clinton-shutdown-might-not-be-traumatic-for-economy

  5. 2011 April 4 6:37 am
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    bc3b permalink

    Unfortunately, everything that conservatives will try to cut has a vested interest that is behind it and the Democrtas will fight to retain it. Take a look at “no-brainers” like NPR, PBS and the National Endowmwnt for the Arts. No one goes hungry (except Ninba Totenberg), no one’s health care is eliminated, no one goes homeless. Yet, the Democrats will fight tooth and nail to preserve their finding.

  6. 2011 April 4 6:50 am
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    Government is inherently evil. The larger the government becomes, the more evil it becomes.

    Shut it down, bring it down and restart it with the few things the Constitution afforded the government.

  7. 2011 April 4 7:34 am
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    justrand permalink

    excellent post, drdog.

    The Federal government creates an artificial reality (sounds wierd, huh?) that would disappear quickly without the massive funds that sustain it moment to moment.

    The EPA, DoEd, FCC, DoEnergy, et al, do not produce ANYTHING. The VERY few useful functions they oversee could be much better accomplished if they had LESS money (and thus had to limit themselves to the reason they were created)
    For example:
    – EPA…we need simple regulations on waste managment and hazardous materials…NOTHING else!
    – DoEd…ok, I can’t think of a reason for this one
    – FCC…we need simple rules on licensing of TV & radio stations to ensure they don’t broadcast over each other…and that is IT
    – DoEnergy…we need someone to do inspections on energy production and ensure basic safety and environmental issues are addressed, and to make sure licenses don’t overlap…and that is IT

    etc… But in each case a very tiny rationale for existence has been turned into a monster that crushes everything in its path

    time to kill the monster(s)

  8. 2011 April 4 7:36 am
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    JustMary permalink

    I expect all hell to break loose if folks can’t get their gubmint cheese, so the states would have to put the smack down rather quickly. Welfare, with the exception of those who truly NEED it (which honestly I don’t put at more than 20% of the current enrollees) absolutely should be cut off. Actually, they don’t need a shutdown to do it, and they COULD lesson the rioting if they gave some advance notice, like 10 more weeks vs just cutting it off with no warning. Then again, an epic riot could be planned in that 10 weeks, so who knows.

    A big fear for me would be that my husband works in bad areas sometimes, outside. Unless his company allowed him to carry, that would be a tad unnerving. Perhaps all his rolled over vacation time would come in handy for the initial ripping off of the band-aid.

  9. 2011 April 4 7:41 am
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    First, all citizens should be able to carry arms (adults) and they should be visible, not concealed.

    Unlike the middle east idiots, Americans don’t shoot bullets into the air. Deterrant to riots and crime.

  10. 2011 April 4 7:47 am
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    bc3b permalink

    JM –

    If they are battling to retail funding for Public Broadcasting and the NEA, think how hard they will fight to retain welfare.

  11. 2011 April 4 8:08 am
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    The only thing the democrats have to offer is yelling and screaming, since they did such a poor job of governing when they had the chance. The Tea Party is not a bad thing, not a good thing.

  12. 2011 April 4 8:14 am
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    Things that make me angry. The MSM keeps calling the middle east rioters as pro-democracy. They are not. they are pro islamic. there is nothing good coming from this.

    A big lie perpertrated on us by the Media.

  13. 2011 April 4 8:15 am
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    sigh…The Tea Party is not a bad thing,but a good thing.

  14. 2011 April 4 8:48 am
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    bc3b permalink

    RP –

    One of the biggest problems this nation has is a totally dishonest media (propagandists is a far more accurate word).

  15. 2011 April 4 8:53 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    BC, 10,

    The Dims will fight for every corner. They have to, they are not a party of principle but of coalitions. So they will fight for NPR, NOW, EPA, till the sun implodes. The reason is the more important. If the Dims lose NPR for example, badly, then other coalition partners are going to say ‘hmm I could be next. Why should I stay around?’. Two or three serious losses and the Dims are in deep dodo as their coalition drifts off to defend themselves.

  16. 2011 April 4 9:44 am
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    mulletover permalink

    Libya is a joke. Samantha Power’s war of European oil.

    A thousand corpses were found on the Ivory Coast, chopped up with machetes.

    Present Obama is described as “concerned” but made his tee time at Andrews AFB.

    Watch this double-breaking putt!

  17. 2011 April 4 9:50 am
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    justrand permalink

    just read that Holder/Obama are going to keep Gitmo open and hold Khalid’s trial there as a military tribunal.

    Liberal uprising over this AFFIRMATION of Bush policy?? MSM calling it that??? Nope…to both!

    All Obama’s grandstanding was EXACTLY that…and now the LameStreamMedia will proclaim this “Wise and prudent”…or some such. Pathetic!

  18. 2011 April 4 9:56 am
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    mulletover permalink

    Tacking right for the campaign, JR.

    Oh, obamamassa, thank you so much.

  19. 2011 April 4 10:09 am
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    retlaw permalink

    Maybe Erkel should begin to concentrate less on TEE time and more on TEA time (as in tea party agenda).

    Of course neither of THOSE changes will happen… but we can HOPE…

  20. 2011 April 4 10:13 am
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    Obamassaih. What a Joke as a person and a president.

    I am predicting a landslide equal to Reagan over Carter.

  21. 2011 April 4 10:46 am
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    I am predicting a landslide equal to Reagan over Carter.

    repubpundit

    Never,ever underestimate the stupidity,avarice, & class envy, of the american electorate.

  22. 2011 April 4 11:02 am
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    …IP, not withstanding the the stupidity,avarice, & class envy, of the american electorate.

  23. 2011 April 4 11:03 am
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    TLS permalink

    … but we can HOPE…

    There’s a post in DrD’s #1 that says “Hope is now a four letter word”.

  24. 2011 April 4 11:09 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Never,ever underestimate the stupidity,avarice, & class envy, of the american electorate — IP

    Don’t forget greed! And when the greed exceeds the obtainment due to bad economic conditions, the electorate throws the bums out from time to time. The question that is most gremain is what is the level of stupidity in the elctorate?

  25. 2011 April 4 11:21 am
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    beej permalink

    The question that is most gremain is what is the level of stupidity in the elctorate?
    ~~~~~~
    By 2008 standards, pretty low. Maybe that is an anomaly, though.

  26. 2011 April 4 12:14 pm
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    mulletover permalink

    I don’t believe President dipchit has gained any new followers during his first two years, so he starts with who he had in his column post election day 2008. Now, the question is who has he lost, and can he regain them in the remaining time of his first term.

    Who he’s lost…….

    White guilt voters who gave him his due – one time.
    Independents who bought hope and change.
    Disenchanted Bush voters who now know Obama is even more extreme.
    Students who graduated and cannot find a job.
    8.3 million who lost their jobs in the past two years.
    Hill Buzz voters who came home to the dems last election, but now – No Way.
    Anyone sympathetic to Israel.
    NASA engineers.
    Kentucky flood victims.
    Gulf Coast oilmen.
    Occupants of the space under the bus.

    I doubt any of these are coming back for a second helping of Hope and Change.

  27. 2011 April 4 12:24 pm
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    beej permalink

    Oh Fishy One: Not much room left under the bus, either. Under the bus is Full.

  28. 2011 April 4 1:14 pm
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    Don’t forget greed!~~mutley

    avarice===greed.

  29. 2011 April 4 1:28 pm
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    Machiavele would be in hog heaven in the current democrat party

  30. 2011 April 4 1:40 pm
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    sigh..machiavelli

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