Advice from Jefferson on Presidents’ Day

2012 February 20
by bc3b

Since today is Presidents’ Day, I thought it would be a great time to share some of the wisdom of one of our wisest Presidents, Thomas Jefferson. Although Jefferson lived 200 years ago, his comments are as appliciable today as they were in the early 19th century.

“When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.” — Thomas Jefferson

“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” — Thomas Jefferson

“It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.” — Thomas Jefferson

“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” — Thomas Jefferson

“My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.” — Thomas Jefferson

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” — Thomas Jefferson

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” — Thomas Jefferson

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” — Thomas Jefferson

“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” — Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property – until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

   

54 Responses leave one →
  1. 2012 February 20 8:32 am
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    bc3b permalink

    Jefferson’s last comment was a forewarning about the Federal Reserve.

  2. 2012 February 20 8:33 am
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    justrand permalink

    Jefferson’s words were, sadly, all too prophetic.

    The bolded sections of these three are GOALS of Obama…not “side-effects”:

    “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” – Thomas Jefferson

    “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.” — Thomas Jefferson

  3. 2012 February 20 8:35 am
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    Texas:

    Santorum 45%
    Gingrich 18
    Mittens 16
    Paul 14

  4. 2012 February 20 8:36 am
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    Santorum still leading Michigan (+4)

    -PPP(D)

  5. 2012 February 20 8:41 am
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    bc3b permalink

    Newt is looking for Texas to be the rebirth of his campaign. Don’t think it’s gonna happen.

  6. 2012 February 20 8:47 am
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    bc3b permalink

    Unlike Eph, I don’t trust or believe PPP. I didn’t believe them when it said Santorum was ahead by 18 and I don’t believe them today.

    I don’t watch much TV except for sports (since I gave up FNC). But during yesterday’s NHL double header on NBC there was one commercial after another: pro-Santorum spots, anti-Santorum sport and even an anti-Newt spot. Doesn’t anyone realize it’s not nice to bash the dead (pot meet kettle).

  7. 2012 February 20 9:00 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    From Washington:

    – Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.

    – Experience teaches us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession. (take heed GOP)

    – Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder. (Obama in a nutshell.)

    – Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples’ liberty’s teeth.


    If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

    and last


    It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.

  8. 2012 February 20 9:05 am
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    BC’s third favorite pollster, PPP(D), had Mittens winning Colorado by 10 points.

    That worked out well for Mittens

    Michigan will go 2-4 points for either guy.

    Pathetic that Romney can’t dominate his family home state

  9. 2012 February 20 9:08 am
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    mulletover permalink

    Did Jefferson warn about this?

    16 vacations in three years

  10. 2012 February 20 9:09 am
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  11. 2012 February 20 9:14 am
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    JustMary permalink

    #9 Let them eat [fat] cake!

  12. 2012 February 20 9:17 am
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    JustMary permalink

    “To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” – Thomas Jefferson

    Good one. Golly, it’s almost like the Founding Fathers knew what they were talking about, huh?

  13. 2012 February 20 9:26 am
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    bc3b permalink

    mulletover –

    Did Jefferson warn about this?

    Mullet –

    Your criticism of our wonderful First Lady has been noted. When you arrive at Hut 1369, you will be given a belt with a 150 pound weight on your butt.

  14. 2012 February 20 9:37 am
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    mulletover permalink

    you will be given a belt with a 150 pound weight on your butt.

    Is that to approximate Michelle’s natural condition??

    All must be punished accordingly?

  15. 2012 February 20 10:01 am
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    GALLUP: Romney’s slide continues…

    Santorum

    36%

    Romney

    26%

    Gingrich

    13%

  16. 2012 February 20 10:12 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Mullet,

    From each according to his donation, for each according to his bitchin’. 🙂

    Probably how Solyndra feels right now….

  17. 2012 February 20 10:23 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    ARTIE CHOKES 2 for $1.00 @ PUBLIX

    Well there is a story behind this of course —

    Tired of constantly being broke & stuck in an unhappy marriage, a young husband decided to solve both problems by taking out a large insurance policy on his wife with himself as the beneficiary, and then arranging to have her killed.

    A ‘friend of a friend’put him in touch with a nefarious dark-side underworld figure who went by the name of ‘Artie.’ Artie explained to the husband that his going price for snuffing out a spouse was $5,000.

    The husband said he was willing to pay that amount, but that he wouldn’t have any cash on hand until he could collect his wife’s insurance money. Artie insisted on being paid at least something up front, so the man opened his wallet, displaying the single dollar bill that rested inside.
    Artie sighed, rolled his eyes, & reluctantly agreed to accept the dollar as down payment for the dirty deed.

    A few days later, Artie followed the man’s wife to the local Asda Supermarket store. There, he surprised her in the produce department & proceeded to strangle her with his gloved hands. As the poor unsuspecting woman drew her last breath & slumped to the floor, the manager of the produce department stumbled unexpectedly onto the murder scene. Unwilling to leave any living witnesses behind, ol’ Artie had no choice but to strangle the produce manager as well.

    However, unknown to Artie, the entire proceedings were captured by the hidden security cameras & observed by the store’s security guard, who immediately called the police. Artie was caught and arrested before he could even leave the store.

    Under intense questioning at the police station, Artie revealed the whole sordid plan, including his unusual financial arrangements with the hapless The next day in the
    newspaper, the headline declared…

    Now you know how screwed up the MSM is.

  18. 2012 February 20 11:01 am
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    brucefdb permalink

    Rush playing clips of Santorum on weekend shows…..the guy is fearless, doesn’t equivocate with the media slime and what he says is spot on. Who knew? Much better than Newt on environment. Don’t know if he can withstand the assault but he deserves an A for honesty.

    It will be interesting to see if Newt goes after Romney or Santorum on Wednesday. We know the moderators will be all over Santorum to try to keep the focus off their boy Resident Hugo Jughead.

  19. 2012 February 20 11:42 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Bruce,

    There is an advantage to Santorum vs Romney. At least with Santroum the base will close ranks and work with the guy to get him elected in the general. I can see Rush coming to Santorum’s aid. I can’t in Romney’s case. It maybe the edge that creates a President Santorum vs continuing with Obammy.

  20. 2012 February 20 12:45 pm
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    BC’s favorite candidate, Newt, gets one right:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/19/gingrich-michigan-do-or-die-romney/

    If Mitt loses Michigan he should drop out.

  21. 2012 February 20 12:47 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Good question — http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/politics/local_politics/will-michigan-be-mitt-romney%27s-waterloo%3F-20120217 — probably not tho…

    And I have to ask. First if Bobo coming out so to speak and having to drop out as a Romney principal. Now we have this Rakolta connection under a cloud of federal investigation. Seems Romney is not picky with who he associates with.

    “Better to travel alone, than to do so in bad company.” — Geo. Washington

  22. 2012 February 20 1:30 pm
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    brucefdb permalink

    It would be funny if it comes down to Rick and bc’s fave Newt. 🙂

  23. 2012 February 20 1:59 pm
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  24. 2012 February 20 2:05 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Just spent about 45 minutes in tha car. They are carpet bombing the hell out of Santorum on the Detroit talk radio stations.

  25. 2012 February 20 2:07 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Bruce –

    Right now Newt is running at 14% in RCL poll average. He may be coming back but I don’t see it.

  26. 2012 February 20 2:08 pm
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    25 Complete opposite here in AZ. The Tea’s do not like Romney one bit. You can see that in the polling data here this week.

  27. 2012 February 20 2:09 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Hell, for what Lin is getting paid, people can call me anything they want.

  28. 2012 February 20 2:11 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Eph –

    I am not talking about the hosts. I am talking about attack commercials.

  29. 2012 February 20 2:14 pm
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    30 I listen to our AM talk on streaming live via my PC so I miss all the commercials

  30. 2012 February 20 2:20 pm
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    25. You had to know it was coming.

  31. 2012 February 20 4:32 pm
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    justrand permalink

  32. 2012 February 20 5:17 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    Good news on Santorum. Certain elements on the left believe that Santorum would be easier to run against than Newt or Romney because of his pro-life position and the flap on contraceptives. Like much on the left they believe the American people are with them on this issue.

    Thus many may be voting for Santorum (Operation chaos in reverse) in open primary states. Santorum could be getting help from the Democrats in winning the Republican nomination. So instead of getting a RINO that the establishment wants, we could end up with a more conservative candidate.

    The world is going nuts. Plus the establishment RINOs may want to run some one else if Romney continues to falter. But it may be too late for this.

  33. 2012 February 20 5:23 pm
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    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/02/al_qaeda_operates_in.php

    “The world is going nuts. ” – Zero argument from me on that front. 😉

  34. 2012 February 20 5:25 pm
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    mulletover permalink

    Regardless of your opinion of him, Karl Rove makes a convincing case that another candidate cannot amass enough delegates to be much of a factor at a contested convention. There are 11 states wherein the filing dates are still open, amounting to some 500 + delegates, and they are apportioned according to the vote for the most part.

    Even if a candidate won all of them, he would more than likely get only 350 delegates, not enough to be a major player.

    A brokered convention is a different animal, and has gone by the way since the days of smoke-filled rooms.

    I don’t know, but he sounded pretty convincing. We are stuck with this field, and it’s anybody but obama right now.

    Maybe.

  35. 2012 February 20 5:32 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    mullet – I believe that the establishment Republicans might well want a brokered convention to insert who they want – Jeb Bush, Mitch Daniels or some other RINO.

  36. 2012 February 20 5:37 pm
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    brucefdb permalink

    I agree gngang….Santorum is who he is…..never pretends otherwise like Mitt or even Newt. It makes the attacks from them sound hollow.

    Those that say that Santorums views will hurt him in the general are mistaken. He will make Obama the issue….because he is not afraid to speak the truth about Obama. Why not? He has faith.

    I have no idea who will win the nomination but for now I am loving seeing someone on our side actually speak without fear about the enviro whackos and all the rest.

  37. 2012 February 20 5:38 pm
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    brucefdb permalink

    gngang 41 aint happening….it will be one of these three.

  38. 2012 February 20 5:52 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    The problem with the brokered election scenario is that according to the GOP rules the first floor vote must be `use what ya got`. If anything the backroom deal will be baked before the convention begins. Round one ends up no winner. Round 2 sees Paul dropping out and throwing his delegates to Romney as an example. Quid Pro Quo not delivered till after the inaguration. Bruce is right in the fact it will be one of the current runners.

  39. 2012 February 20 5:53 pm
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    mulletover permalink

    Santorum’s 12 years in the Senate shows yearly voting record ranging from 69% to 86% from the Natl Taxpayers Union, and Citizens against Public Waste gives him an career rating of 80. ACU has him at a lifetime 83.

    If he can get to 270, I will take him over Obama with an ACU of 15 or less, and he is more extreme now.

  40. 2012 February 20 6:22 pm
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    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “To be controlled in our economic pursuits means to be controlled in everything.” – F.A. Hayek

  41. 2012 February 20 6:23 pm
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    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.” – James Madison

    Can you say NDAA!

  42. 2012 February 20 6:33 pm
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    justrand permalink

    mullet, if a pair of my sweatsocks could get to 270, I’d take THEM over Obama!

  43. 2012 February 20 6:40 pm
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    mulletover permalink

    JR, the environmentalists don’t want to hear that. Your sweatsocks probably qualify for a superfund site.

  44. 2012 February 20 8:14 pm
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    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “In the USA, which at one time had the justified distinction of aspiring toward a fully free society – “leader of the free world” – the system and those who administer it pay hardly any heed to human liberty; the leadership is either wallowing in calls for economic equality (as if George Orwell had never written Animal Farm) or embarking wrangles about social and religious issues. (These Republicans certainly know how to drop the ball and miss opportunities!) Every problem that gains serious attention seems to call forth simply more statism from the elite; the possibility of turning toward more freedom is routinely denounced by prominent commentators. (I cannot get over Paul Krugman’s widely respected yet totally preposterous complaints about “market fundamentalism,” something he keeps alleging has gripped the country even though no evidence of it exists anywhere.)”

    http://thedailybell.com/3622/Tibor-Machan-Why-not-Pessimism

  45. 2012 February 20 8:21 pm
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    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “The presidency – by which I mean the executive State – is the sum total of American tyranny. The other branches of government, including the presidentially appointed Supreme Court, are mere adjuncts. The presidency insists on complete devotion and humble submission to its dictates, even while it steals the products of our labor and drives us into economic ruin.

    It centralizes all power unto itself, and crowds out all competing centers of power in society, including the church, the family, business, charity, and the community.”

    http://thedailybell.com/3628/Lew-Rockwell-Down-With-the-Presidency

  46. 2012 February 20 8:47 pm
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    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “What the neocon logic comes down to is this: The US has a moral responsibility to run the world. But the citizens are too stupid to understand this. That’s why we can’t use democratic institutions like Congress in this ambition. We must use the executive power of the presidency. It must have total control over foreign affairs, and never bow to Congressional carping. Once this point is conceded, the game is over. The demands of a centralized and all-powerful presidency and its interventionist foreign policy are ideologically reinforcing. One needs the other. If the presidency is supreme in global affairs, it will be supreme in domestic affairs. If it is supreme at home, there will be no states’ rights, no absolute property rights, no true liberty from government oppression. The continued centralization of government in the presidency represents the end of America and its civilization.”

  47. 2012 February 20 9:09 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

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