Primary Open Thread

2012 March 13
by bc3b

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  1. 2012 March 13 4:58 pm
    [1]

    1. Alabama
    2. Miss
    3. HI

    Order of hotness

  2. 2012 March 13 4:59 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Same problem as 2008 and most recent elections – several of the more conservatives battling while the most liberal one has a clear track.

  3. 2012 March 13 5:00 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    I agree Eph.

  4. 2012 March 13 5:00 pm
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    Things not looking good for Mitt

  5. 2012 March 13 5:01 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    The infamous CNN link:

    http://www.cnn.com/

  6. 2012 March 13 5:13 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    No official results yet but CNN is claiming Romney is leading in Mississippi and Santorum in Alabama based on exit polls.

  7. 2012 March 13 5:14 pm
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    justrand permalink

    Eph…I agree with your hotness rankings!! 🙂

  8. 2012 March 13 5:15 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Alice Stewart, the Santorum spokesperson on CNN, is a very pretty blonde.

  9. 2012 March 13 5:21 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    As much as I don’t like the CNN personalities, but their coverage is far better than Fox. FNC tries to do everything on the cheap and hopes conservatives will just go along.

    Alabama has prisoners carrying the paper ballots in.

  10. 2012 March 13 5:26 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Alabama votes are starting to come in.

  11. 2012 March 13 5:27 pm
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    It’s almost 90 degrees here in SE Phoenix. I’m thinking about going out for my daily naked run around the block.

  12. 2012 March 13 5:37 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    It was 67 in Detroit today, which is why Obama closed the re-education camps.

  13. 2012 March 13 5:49 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    After the last two weeks, I am not going to get excited about early returns.

  14. 2012 March 13 6:01 pm
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    BC,

    Why are we the only ones posting???

  15. 2012 March 13 6:03 pm
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    JustMary permalink

    #14 I have been swamped these last few days!!!! I’m here, just not with a ton of time. 😀

  16. 2012 March 13 6:04 pm
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    JustMary permalink

    Plus, the time change is totally killing me.

  17. 2012 March 13 6:04 pm
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    1. I concur.

  18. 2012 March 13 6:05 pm
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    9. Better then the dead in Vermont.

  19. 2012 March 13 6:05 pm
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    12. chit be blooming here already.

  20. 2012 March 13 6:07 pm
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    JustMary permalink

    #19 I have a couple trees that never bloom this early…and I am especially excited because my fig tree is starting to get a ton of leaves!!!!! Last year’s fruit got stolen by our evil birds, but this year I hope to get to them first.

  21. 2012 March 13 6:16 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    Roll Tide !!!

  22. 2012 March 13 6:22 pm
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    Mitt running third in both states

  23. 2012 March 13 6:23 pm
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    judyt2012 permalink

    Anyone notice Drudge changed his headline from Good Night for Romney to Fight for South?

  24. 2012 March 13 6:23 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    gn –

    Aren’t you supposed to be rooting for the Buckeyes or Bobcats? lol.

  25. 2012 March 13 6:25 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    My second alma mater (Dayton – grad school) is getting its butt kicked by Iowa in the NIT.

  26. 2012 March 13 6:26 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Alabama is slow on the count. Those convicts need to get their a$$es moving.

  27. 2012 March 13 6:27 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Ahhh the oaks are already budding out here.

    And we are taking a poll, Miss Miss is 1 on the hot scale.

  28. 2012 March 13 6:32 pm
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    How about a cameo from Miss Ukraine?

  29. 2012 March 13 6:32 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    bc3b – sure thing BUT Miss Alabama just brings out that spirit within one.

  30. 2012 March 13 6:34 pm
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    WTF?

    Miss is 38% in

    Alabama is 7% in

  31. 2012 March 13 6:34 pm
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    Miss Alabama is unreal. Decent rack too

  32. 2012 March 13 6:36 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    I added a second picture of Miss Mississippi since the first wasn’t very flattering – she looked p!ssed.

  33. 2012 March 13 6:36 pm
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    32 She needs to lose some garments

  34. 2012 March 13 6:40 pm
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    Ron Paul is having a good night, especially in Mississippi

  35. 2012 March 13 6:40 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    It’s Santorum 1, Gingrich 2, and Romney 3 in both states, but I am not counting any eggs, let alone chickens because the suburban areas seem to report late.

  36. 2012 March 13 6:41 pm
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    Are there “suburban” areas in either state?

  37. 2012 March 13 6:42 pm
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    MISS UKRAINE !!!!

  38. 2012 March 13 6:48 pm
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    judyt2012 permalink

    I need to go to sleep so I can wake up an hour early… but damn it I am not trusting these reports

  39. 2012 March 13 6:48 pm
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    Santorum is going to win Alabama. Who calls first?

    I guess CNN, b/c the RINOs at Foxnews hate Santorum

  40. 2012 March 13 6:49 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    Both states take rural to a whole new level.

  41. 2012 March 13 6:51 pm
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    TLS permalink

    the time change is totally killing me.

    ditto

  42. 2012 March 13 6:56 pm
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    judyt2012 permalink

    Why isn’t CNN updating their Mississippi Map

  43. 2012 March 13 7:07 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    John King is talking about how (unlike Michigan and Ohio) the vote is not turning out in the metro areas and the suburbs, where Romney needs to win.

    I hate CNN, but their election coverage and analysis are excellent.

  44. 2012 March 13 7:08 pm
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    judyt2012 permalink

    Can Drudge breathe with his head up Mitt’s butt?

    His bias is disgusting.

    He is calling it a Mississippi 3-Way when Romney is coming in third and 3% behind Santorum…but if the results were different then Drudge would be running a different headline

  45. 2012 March 13 7:15 pm
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    Why do you people visit Drudge? You deserve the misery

  46. 2012 March 13 7:16 pm
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    judyt2012 permalink

    Quick place to find other links…and strange stories… but his primary coverage has been all Mittens bias

  47. 2012 March 13 7:17 pm
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    judyt2012 permalink

    CNN called Alabama for Santorum… Yeah!!!!

  48. 2012 March 13 7:18 pm
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    Judy,

    I prefer BJG for all those reasons. Minus shilling for Romney (with a few exceptions)

  49. 2012 March 13 7:18 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    The Mississippi vote count has really slowed. It has been at 79% for quite a while.

  50. 2012 March 13 7:18 pm
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    47 Told you CNN would be first. Foxnews RINO a-holes are shitting in their pants

  51. 2012 March 13 7:19 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Eph –

    In case you didn’t notice, Miss Ukraine has arrived.

  52. 2012 March 13 7:20 pm
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    Romney is going to finish third in Alabama.

  53. 2012 March 13 7:20 pm
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    51 BC

    See if you can scare me up a pic of Miss Ukraine in a thong

  54. 2012 March 13 7:21 pm
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    82% w. Rick +6000

  55. 2012 March 13 7:21 pm
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    TLS permalink

    CNN has declared Santorum the winner

  56. 2012 March 13 7:23 pm
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    A lot of Santorum counties have barely began to report

  57. 2012 March 13 7:23 pm
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    TLS permalink

    #47 judy was faster than I

  58. 2012 March 13 7:24 pm
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    Where’s Kooky Zooky?

  59. 2012 March 13 7:30 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Unless some counties are counting slow, MS looks like Romney will be #3. Jackson, Biloxi, Gulfport he received, but if they are reporting faster than the rural areas I don’t see him increasing out of that area.

  60. 2012 March 13 7:34 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    I have seen some of the comments on other blogs about evangelicals and romney. They wonder why the cold shoulder from evangelicals?

    Simple answer. When you can have the real deal in Santorum (Newt a close 2nd), why settle for 2nd best (in this case 3rd best).

    The only reason why Romney does as well as he does is due to his money advantage and the Elite GOP and media stating Romney is inevitable.

    If people voted for who they felt/believed best represent their views, it would be Rick or Newt.

    In 2008 I supported Romney because he was better than McStain. Still is, but he is not better than Rick or Newt.

  61. 2012 March 13 7:37 pm
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    TLS permalink

    Politico has about the same total votes but percent reporting is about 7 % less than CNN. Don’t they all get their info from AP?

    http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/President/2012/Primary/MS

  62. 2012 March 13 7:38 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Santorum is up by over 3k with 93% of the vote in.

  63. 2012 March 13 7:39 pm
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    After tonight, Romney has to be thinking about DeMint or Jindal for VP – if he gets the nomination

  64. 2012 March 13 7:40 pm
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    95% and +7000

    this porker is over

  65. 2012 March 13 7:40 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Iam not sure but I have more faith in CNN than Politico.

    I expect CNN to call Mississippi soon. If they don’t, there’s no point in calling it.

  66. 2012 March 13 7:40 pm
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    “They wonder why the cold shoulder from evangelicals?”

    MASSACHUESETTS

  67. 2012 March 13 7:42 pm
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    TLS permalink

    Thx bc. Just wondering because now Politico show 84.6% reporting but CNN has 95% with the same number of votes? 10% could make a big difference this close.

  68. 2012 March 13 7:43 pm
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    MS is funny tight, nearly a 3 way split with 85%+ in.

  69. 2012 March 13 7:44 pm
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    96% and +7000

  70. 2012 March 13 7:47 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    ip –

    She’s a lot more woman than Miss Ukraine. In fact, she’s a lot more woman than Miss Ukraine, Miss Alabama, Miss Mississippi and Miss Hawaii combined.

  71. 2012 March 13 7:48 pm
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    yeah MS looks baked in for Santorum now with 95% in.

  72. 2012 March 13 7:50 pm
    [72]

    Time to bust out the tunes…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFhM1XZsh6o

  73. 2012 March 13 7:52 pm
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    judyt2012 permalink

    finally Cnn called MS for Santorum…

    Is Santorum speaking or did I miss it?

  74. 2012 March 13 7:53 pm
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    justrand permalink

    Santorum…Santorum…Santorum!

    2 for 2, baby!

    it AIN’T over!

  75. 2012 March 13 7:54 pm
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    Don’t know not watching tv but last I looked he was up 4k with like 96% in via cnn so they might as well call it.

  76. 2012 March 13 7:55 pm
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    75. It should be for Newt, over that is.

  77. 2012 March 13 7:55 pm
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    Second look at brokered convention???

  78. 2012 March 13 7:56 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Course Eph, we could send this over to HHR — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XlEzY4tMyg

  79. 2012 March 13 7:56 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    I cannot believe the way “Callista and I” emphasize Callista rather than I.

  80. 2012 March 13 7:59 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Newt can’t win in the south (except SC and GA) and he was 16% in Ohio and 7% in Michigan. He fares worse against Obama and with independents than Romney and Santorum.

  81. 2012 March 13 8:02 pm
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    Onto Illinois and Louisiana!

    LOL

  82. 2012 March 13 8:06 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    I would agree Newt needs to call it a day. Even with 2nd place showings he will never get the delegate count and what he has is not much to trade.

  83. 2012 March 13 8:35 pm
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    mulletover permalink

    Newt’s campaign is more about the national conversation than it is about getting delegates IMO. He needs a soapbox, and the primaries provide that. He is not about to leave, at least as long as his Vegas sugar daddy continues to fund him.

    Newt is affecting policy discussions like no other. His “big idea” of $2.50 a gallon gasoline has spun obama around on his ass for two weeks or more, resulting in a change of position by the administration, and forcing an inept energy secretary to walk back, under duress, his ridiculous idea of imposing high energy costs on a docile public.

    I would love to see obama debate Newt on the virtues of algae biofuel vs drilling in the Bakken field and the north coast of Alaska. “Mr. President, would you be using algae biofuel in Air Force One as soon as it is commercially available?”

    Win or not, I think Newt is doing good things for the GOP.

  84. 2012 March 13 11:14 pm
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    brucefdb permalink

    Good observations here as usual. I agree with mullet that Newt is doing good things….but a NE catholic winning in the south is a clear message to the Rinos and the messiah…..God still has hope for us! Sorry, cant climb on the McCain/Romney/Dole/Bush/ bandwagon of losers yet.

    Praise the lord and pass the ammunition!!!!

  85. 2012 March 13 11:16 pm
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    brucefdb permalink

    Oh, and to Eph, I thought you were nuts predicting Santorum victorys tonight…..kudos to ya’. bro’.

  86. 2012 March 13 11:52 pm
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    judyt2012 permalink

    Agree with Bruce…I’m not sure if that was Eph’s prayer or crystal ball but it gave me reason to pray and hope for the first time yesterday after hearing for hours Gingrich would take Alabama and Romney was taking Mississippi by 8.

  87. 2012 March 14 3:25 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    I would love to see obama debate Newt on the virtues of algae biofuel vs drilling in the Bakken field and the north coast of Alaska. “Mr. President, would you be using algae biofuel in Air Force One as soon as it is commercially available?” — mullet

    You Lose!

    The US Navy is already testing algae based biofuels — http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=navy-investigates-biofuels-to-power-ships-airplanes. It would be nothing for AF1 to dump a load of the green goo in the tanks, fly to the debate, and you lose the talking point.

    That being said, drilling is still the economic choice by a long shot.

  88. 2012 March 14 4:40 am
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  89. 2012 March 14 5:42 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    For us doggies love is unconditional.

  90. 2012 March 14 5:50 am
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    justrand permalink

    a little morning “humor”:
    http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/03/dan-akerson-says-first-year-sales-of-volt-as-good-as-prius-grows-long-nose/

    Great article…and then in the comments some folks struggle mightily to spin Akerson’s BS into gold…doesn’t work.

  91. 2012 March 14 6:01 am
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    justrand permalink

    hattip DailyCaller:
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/lubbock-texas-planned-parenthood-ceo-arrested-for-indecent-exposure/

    “Tony Ray Thornton, the President and CEO of the Lubbock, Texas Planned Parenthood affiliate, was released from custody Tuesday morning following his arrest Monday for indecent exposure.

    Thornton was arrested at the baseball fields inside Lubbock’s Mackenzie Park at 3:25 Monday afternoon after exposing himself”

    ****************************

    his defense will most likely be: “It’s not my fault those kids were there, I tried to get ’em all aborted!

  92. 2012 March 14 6:01 am
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    Chevy volt==the quintessential gold plated dog turd.

  93. 2012 March 14 6:12 am
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    justrand permalink

    yup, ip! the “gold-plating” costs $10,000 per turd!

    I pray the Republicans use THIS strategy to highlight all Obama’s energy “turds”:
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/03/coming_soon_the_commercials_that_obama_fears.html

  94. 2012 March 14 6:52 am
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    judyt2012 permalink

    Insanity rules over at the pro-Romney blogs and the insults continue unabated.

    Wow, and these folks wonder why we still remain unconvinced about Romney when the folks supporting him do nothing but insult us and never address the real problems with Romney.

    The rombot RINOs forget the number one reason why there are indie voters … they don’t see or understand the differences between liberal and conservative principles. The reason why indies voted for Obama over McCain was because McCain did not stand for conservative values. McCain painted himself as a much older and white version of Obama, so the indies went with the new, hip (novelty) guy.

    When it comes to governing record, Obama will paint himself to the right of Romney and the indies will not see any difference, because Romney does not live conservative principles and cannot articulate the difference between Obama’s socialism and conservative principles.

  95. 2012 March 14 7:10 am
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    RepublicanPundit permalink

    A brokered convention is our friend. The Conservatives will rule the day.

  96. 2012 March 14 7:13 am
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    justrand permalink

    perfect analysis, judy!

    Obama may not paint himself “to the Right of Romney”…but he will certainly paint them as “not enough difference to risk changing Presidents”.

    IF Romney gets the nomination, he will need a strong Veep from the South voice…Allen West or Marco Rubio or even Bobby Jindahl (if Jindahl has improved from that disastrous SOTU response he gave two years ago)

  97. 2012 March 14 8:04 am
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    judyt2012 permalink

    Politically Obama will paint Romney as virtually the same.

    Personally, Obama will paint Romney as a greedy rich man who likes to fire people, is out of touch with 99% of the American people and when it comes to the war on the phemale, Obama will paint Romney as being just fine with the gals because they are really good at taking care of the children, the house, and can cook.

    The Democrats don’t raise an issue without knowing how to use it against their opponents. They already know how to use the War on Phemales against Romney.

    One of my old debate partners is a Mormon, I am well versed in the LDS attitude about women. The idea of a War on Phemales should have the Romney campaign scrambling to “fix” their candidate. Unfortunately, the Romney camp has been blind to the shortcomings of their candidate from the very beginning, and still aren’t “getting it”.

    Obama won’t use the Mormons are not Christians/Mormons are a cult bigotry.

    Obama will use Mormons are anti-black and anti-woman.

    Being anti-Christian doesn’t move the indie votes into the Obama column, but Mormons being racist, chauvinist pigs will move the indie voters.

    Democrats playing a Mormon anti-Christian bigotry in attempts to depress the conservative and evangelical vote will not work. They would be setting up a comparison between Romney the Mormon when Mormons are clean-cut, conservative, otherwise decent America loving people against Obama who is either a closet Muslim or the guy who sat in Reverend Wright’s anti-American black liberation theology racist church for 20 years.

    That comparison does not depress the evangelical vote from coming out to vote against Obama.

  98. 2012 March 14 8:10 am
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    6thLetterIZkooky permalink

    Good wins for Santorum last night, it will be interesting to see how he reacts this time. If he can bring any questions back to jobs, the economy, and Obama, he may have a chance at the nomination.
    Romney still has a sizeable delegate lead, and still has his money and organization advantage. I wonder who it would benefit more if Gingrich was to drop out? Can Santorum win any winner-take-all states?

    #90 – wonderful (but painful in a way) picture.

    “When it comes to governing record, Obama will paint himself to the right of Romney and the indies will not see any difference, because Romney does not live conservative principles and cannot articulate the difference between Obama’s socialism and conservative principles.”

    -Obama will have a hard time painting himself to the right of Romney, BECAUSE he now has a record, as opposed to 2008. Also, Romney does not live conservative principles???? And he cannot articulate the differences between Obama’s socialism and conservative principles?? All you have to do is watch that CNBC video from last week, which we argued about, it was 17 minutes of setting himself apart from OBAMA.

  99. 2012 March 14 8:16 am
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    6thLetterIZkooky permalink

    judyt2012,

    in #96, you say that Romney does not live by conservative principles. Then, in #99, you say that Mormons are clean-cut, conservative, otherwise decent American loving people.

    Which one will it be?

  100. 2012 March 14 8:37 am
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    Every group has it’s black sheep, romney is a rino aberration.

  101. 2012 March 14 8:40 am
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    6thLetterIZkooky permalink

    “The first step was to target the Republican Party as being anti-women (aka phemale). George Stephanopolous actually did the Administration’s dirty work by unveiling this during the GOP New Hampshire debate which he moderated by broaching the subject of contraception to Mitt Romney. To Romney’s credit he replied that no one was talking about taking contraception away and that he thought that it was a dumb question (not realizing what Stephanopolous and the President’s campaign staff had planned.”

    -This is what bc3b wrote in a previous thread. Romney did not take the bait, he kept his focus on the economy and on Obama. Santorum, on the other hand, took the bait during the debate, will he NOT do the same in the fall? He has not proven that he can sidestep issues, and then pivot back in a way which is advantageous for him. Your prior favorite, Newt Gingrich, is the best one to do that, but he has his own problems in the General Election. Romney can make the pivot like Gingrich can (in a different way, of course) in a debate, and also matches Santorum with his clean-cut, pro-family living style.
    Out of a less than stellar bunch, Romney has already (and will continue to) proven himself the BEST choice to be the Republican nominee against Obama this fall. If it takes until August, I predict his superior organization, his even temperament, his money, and his consistent message centered on the economy and jobs will give him enough support to win the Republican nomination.
    If I am wrong, so be it, either way I will be crawling to the polling booth to pull the lever against Obama.

  102. 2012 March 14 10:02 am
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    judyt2012 permalink

    #101 —

    Living as a conservative from a personal/religious perspective is entirely different from governing from a conservative perspective.

    Romney’s personal life is the clean cut, conservative (aka sexual chastity) and decent (except when it comes to the family dog that is) Mormon; however, when it comes to his record as governor he isn’t conservative politically.

    Jeez… as if I needed another example of how obtuse or thick-headed Romobots are

  103. 2012 March 14 10:10 am
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    judyt2012 permalink

    #103 —([Romney] not realizing what Stephanopolous and the President’s campaign staff had planned.”

    And this is a problem with Romney, he isn’t all that quick on his feet and there seems to be an absolute blindness by him/his campaign regarding what the Obama crew (media included) will be setting up to use against him.

    I’m still now sure you folks grasped that the entire OWS was the preliminary set-up to take Romney out.

    The War on Phemales does as much damage to Romney as it does any other GOP candidate, probably more.

    I have no prior favorite… MY FAVORITE has always been the same… the ABR candidate.

    so be it, either way I will be crawling to the polling booth to pull the lever against Obama.

    That would be a nice change for you RINOs to have to hold your noses to vote for a candidate you don’t like. Once you have the experience maybe you will understand why us conservatives have been complaining about you pushing another NON-Conservative down our throats during all of these past elections.

  104. 2012 March 14 10:18 am
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    judyt2012 permalink

    proven himself the BEST choice to be the Republican nominee against Obama this fall.

    This is your opinion… not a fact.

    I see that for all of his organization, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, and 6 years of running for POTUS (I still think he has been running, at least in his mind, since 1968) is a very flawed candidate.

    His temperament is also a negative because he is viewed as plastic, unfeeling, unable to connect with people or inspire enthusiasm

    Bob Dole had an even temperament on the campaign trail…aka snooze fest

  105. 2012 March 14 10:19 am
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    6thLetterIZkooky permalink

    judyt2012,

    Thanks for setting me straight. I looked back to what you wrote, I probably would have written the sentence a little differently, so some people would not get mixed up, especially the “Romobots”. You know how “that group” is. They always lump people together as groups instead of as individuals, something you would NEVER do.
    Did Romney govern his state as a liberal, though, besides the Romneycare issue (although this was a BIG one!)? Did he come in with a budget deficit, and then leave with a replenished rainy-day fund? I have read that, not sure if it is true. Yes, I know that states are constitutionally required to balance their budgets, but as we have seen in NY, CA, IL, there are ways around that. It seems he chose a more conservative path, which is a good sign, don’t you agree?

  106. 2012 March 14 10:48 am
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    6thLetterIZkooky permalink

    1) [Romney] not realizing what Stephanopolous and the President’s campaign staff had planned.”

    -Did you read what bc3b wrote a couple of threads ago? Romney (nor anyone else) did not know what the Obama campaign had in store, AND HE STILL DIDN’T TAKE THE BAIT!!! THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT!!! SANTORUM FELL FOR IT, ROMNEY DID NOT!! That is not a good thing for your ABR candidate, that is a minus. It shows how easily he can be taken off the message he is trying to run on! The names you used for Romobots should be used here, but I will refrain, because you have stated you are a woman.

    2) Bob Dole had an even temperament on the campaign trail…aka snooze fest

    -Actually, Dole had an incredibly funny, but acidic, sense of humor, which often was portrayed as meanness in 1996. If you look at the 1988 campaign, against George HW Bush, he was portrayed as mean and unsteady. He also was a career legislator, as opposed to a Governor. So I’ll disagree with you there on the temperament. Snoozefest, I’ll give you for Dole, not sure about Romney yet.

    3) “Out of a less than stellar bunch, Romney has already (and will continue to) proven himself the BEST choice to be the Republican nominee against Obama this fall.”

    -this is my FULL quote. The number of delegates, votes, states won prove it, and at the end of this primary season, I expect him to be chosen as the nominee. Again, since you seem to have selective reading skills, he was not my first choice, but for reasons given, is now my first choice. Your ABR, jump-from-one-candidate-to-another position has shown itself to be uneffective; maybe you should look at the quicksand you have built your foundation of reason on as the problem, not mine and others desire to see the strongest candidate RUNNING to go against Obama and send him packing!

    4) “That would be a nice change for you RINOs to have to hold your noses to vote for a candidate you don’t like. Once you have the experience maybe you will understand why us conservatives have been complaining about you pushing another NON-Conservative down our throats during all of these past elections.”

    -You seem to lump me in with others quite often, and you do the same to yourself as well. Are you worried of standing alone? Have you not the courage of your convictions to speak to me alone? I am an individual, which is what I treat you as. Can you return the same respect I show you, or are you unable to do that?

  107. 2012 March 14 11:08 am
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    judyt2012 permalink

    I understand one of the ways he balanced that budget was by increases fees (taxes) on a multitude of items. … That is not conservative path…. liberals raise taxes all the time so they can have more money to spend on liberal programs.

  108. 2012 March 14 11:15 am
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    judyt2012 permalink

    When did bc3b’s opinions become the definitive source and last word on any topic?

    Unlike you, I have never seen Romney as that best candidate running. If I worked for the Obama campaign I could prepare at least a dozen campaign ads against Romney that would be lethal. Given that there are thousands working for Obama I am sure that their combined brain power has managed to come up with the same weak spots that I see.

    One of Romney’s greatest weaknesses is that he is very ineffective on challenging Obama and has already shown a predisposition to not go after Romney, or at least flip flop while doing it.

  109. 2012 March 14 11:33 am
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    judyt2012 permalink

    Well zooky… I have absolutely no idea who you are. I know JM, JR and the rest of the people here as individuals.

    You are nothing but some strange intended to insult screen name. You post here under one name and then post on other blogs using other names.

    I love the obvious little facts you put in your posts, such as Bob Dole’s background, personality, and portrayal during campaigns.

    Being ABR is not a jump from one candidate to the other… I never changed my position.

    Is uneffective the same thing as ineffective?

    Yes we want to see the strongest candidate to go against Obama and that is the problem… Romney has demonstrated a great reluctance to GO AGAINST(AFTER)OBAMA. Except for Huntsman, Romney has been the weakest in taking on Obama.

    Doesn’t matter whether you have a pea shooter or a 45, if you won’t pull the trigger it does you no good.

    Romney has been extremely short on specifics other than “I was successful at Bain Capital.” Frankly, my own experience in venture capital makes that a negative.

    Blah, blah, blah …your 17 minute video that I already picked apart.

    No undecided voter will wade through a 17 minutes video and try to pick through it to find where Romney stands on an issue or what he would do as POTUS.

  110. 2012 March 14 12:43 pm
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    #109 – sometimes restraining spending is all you need to do. I bet if you looked, some fees were raised in VA, WI, FL, MI, NJ, NM, SC, etc, etc. All Republican-governed states, but sometimes you need to allow for reality. Also, please look at some of the arguments used against Reagan in 1980 by the opposition. They cherry-picked his record in CA.

    #110 – I never said bc3b’s opinions were a definitive source. If you actually read what he wrote, the point of it was Romney DID NOT GET OFF MESSAGE, which is an attribute in the General Election. The reason for that being an attribute is because….”No undecided voter will wade through a 17 minutes video and try to pick through it to find where Romney stands on an issue or what he would do as POTUS.” THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS, IF YOU CAN REMEMBER THAT LONG AGO!

    #110 – Any campaign will be able to make many ads about its opponent. When the Obama camp makes an ad which shows Santorum “demonizing” single mothers (it doesn’t matter if you or I agree with the sentiment, it is not intended for us), will that be more effective than a campaign ad about some policy decision by Romney?

    #111 – uneffective/ineffective – since we both like Palin, I will ask you to give me the same leeway we gave her. But, yes, that is what I meant. Thanks.

    #111 – “Being ABR is not a jump from one candidate to the other… I never changed my position.”
    -In my short time posting here, first Newt was the cat’s meow, now Santorum is the feline’s best friend. ABR = Anybody But Romney = Quicksand

    ABO = Anybody But Obama = Republican nominee – do you see the difference? One can be AGAINST something, but still FOR something!

    After all of my arguing, I KNOW the aim is to get rid of OBAMA come November. I can’t say that about you.

    CHEERS!

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