Whom to Believe: Obama or Congressional Committees?

2012 May 7
by bc3b

Update: Now, Obama Seems to Have a “Catch and Release” Program for Afghanistan

KABUL — The United States has for several years been secretly releasing high-level detainees from a military prison in Afghanistan as part of negotiations with insurgent groups, a bold effort to quell violence but one that U.S. officials acknowledge poses substantial risks.

As the United States has unsuccessfully pursued a peace deal with the Taliban, the “strategic release” program has quietly served as a live diplomatic channel, allowing American officials to use prisoners as bargaining chips in restive provinces where military power has reached its limits.

But the releases are an inherent gamble: The freed detainees are often notorious fighters who would not be released under the traditional legal system for military prisoners in Afghanistan. They must promise to give up violence — and U.S. officials warn them that if they are caught attacking American troops, they will be detained once again.

And, we all know that Muslim terrorists, err I mean insurgents, would NEVER lie to non-believers.

Just before Barack Obama landed at his Afghanistan campaign stop in Afghanistan last week members of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees left after a fact-finding visit.

Unlike the President’s glowing description of how things are going for the NATO Coalition and how Al Qaeda and the Taliban have been weakened, members of Congress (including Democrats like Daine Feinstein, painted painted a far different picture – that the Taliban is much stronger than it was juwt two years ago. U.S. April casualties, greater than any month since the Afghan campaign started 10 years ago – seem to agree with the members of Congress:

Just two hours before President Barack Obama landed in Afghanistan on Tuesday, a congressional delegation was departing.

The delegation, made up of the top four intelligence members on the House and Senate intelligence committees, had spent several days flying around the country, under the radar, visiting with U.S. military and intelligence officers and, of course, a healthy dose of Afghan officials, including Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

It turns out that not everyone assesses the future threat of the Taliban in quite the same way.

Speaking to the nation Tuesday night, the president said the insurgency was on the decline.

“Over the last three years, the tide has turned. We broke the Taliban’s momentum,” he said.

The Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said that on the ground, military and intelligence officials in Afghanistan had a different view of the strength of the Taliban and its determination to be patient and wait out the American withdrawal.

“What struck me more coming out was the conclusion from folks on the intelligence side, and these are folks with lots and lots of experience with interrogations and they are dealing with Taliban as they’re captured and brought through the programs, that they believe the Taliban is stronger today than it was even a couple of years ago,” said U.S. Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Michigan.

“They’ve adjusted, and their adjustment is: We just have to let people know we’re there, and we have to wait till they leave,” he said of the Taliban.

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Hat tip: CNN, the Washington Post and hotair.com


14,000 mile campaign stop


51 Responses leave one →
  1. 2012 May 7 1:03 pm
    bc3b permalink

    I hope that none of you actually believe the most notorious Jihadist fighters would lie to us. News of this new program and the record number of casualties in April is merely a coincidence.

  2. 2012 May 7 1:04 pm
    bc3b permalink

    There’s only one answer on Afghanistan – get the hell out.

  3. 2012 May 7 1:09 pm


  4. 2012 May 7 1:12 pm
    judyt2012 permalink


    LOL… about halfway through this video of bored people are the very gals who were later photographed with that glazed over kool-aid overdose look.

  5. 2012 May 7 1:17 pm

    Something I doubt you’ll see played over and over again on the evening news tonight.

  6. 2012 May 7 1:18 pm

    Instead you’ll probably see this – Cole bomber finally killed.

  7. 2012 May 7 1:30 pm
    justrand permalink

    KH…and we get to hear how BRAVE Obama was to allow us to kill this scumbag, and NO OTHER President evah would have done so! 👿

  8. 2012 May 7 1:44 pm

    RICHMOND, Va. (CBSDC/AP) — A woman dressed in a black burka was removed during President Obama’s inaugural re-election campaign stop at Virginia Commonwealth University Saturday.

    According to a White House pool report, photographers observed the woman being escorted out of the gym by Richmond police and other security officials. The woman appeared to be wearing dark clothing and U.S. military pins and was carrying a book. She cooperated with police, according to the report.


  9. 2012 May 7 2:00 pm
    judyt2012 permalink

    #9 — I swore I wouldn’t be caught dead in either one…

    But now that you posted that story I just might change my mind…lol


  10. 2012 May 7 2:02 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    A note of interest. Obama in the pic above is exiting by the servant’s entrance of AF-1. It suits him. May it continue.

  11. 2012 May 7 2:07 pm
    bc3b permalink

    KH #9 – throwing the woman in the burka was a bigoted, racist thing for Obama to do.

    If the read the entire CBS story, the first few paragraphs were about the woman in the burka. The rest was Obama PR.

  12. 2012 May 7 2:09 pm
    judyt2012 permalink

    #11 — No that is the correct protocol. The teleprompter is deplaned at the front door.

  13. 2012 May 7 2:11 pm
    judyt2012 permalink

    #12 — how else can they lure people to read Obama propaganda…. bait and switch

  14. 2012 May 7 2:19 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    A Rod Serling type of thought — http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/337754/20120506/turkey-kurdish-demographics-pkk-birth-rate-womens.htm — “Imagine if you will, Turkey run by Kurds…..”

  15. 2012 May 7 2:59 pm

    — Imagine if you will, The U.S. run by muzzies.

  16. 2012 May 7 3:06 pm
    justrand permalink

    Imagine, if you will, the U.S. run by a man who detests everything we stand for…oh wait…

  17. 2012 May 7 3:30 pm
    MI Conservative permalink

    Imagine, if you will, a leader of France with balls!

    Imagine, if you will, the leader of the GOP with balls!

  18. 2012 May 7 4:20 pm
    MI Conservative permalink

  19. 2012 May 7 4:22 pm

    That looks more like Dr. mutley.

  20. 2012 May 7 4:57 pm
    JustMary permalink

    My son and I visited the Reagan Library again today. I really love it there. They did such a beautiful remodel on it, and added SO many amazing things. They currently have the Washington exhibit- complete with dentures!!! It was a nice day, just gorgeous outside (though it usually is). I have to tell you though- the changes they made in some sections will drive you to tears. The multiple screens showing his funeral, and oh my gosh the room dedicated to their marriage!!!!! What a romantic he was. All the ladies were getting weepy reading his Valentine’s letter to Nancy. *sigh*

    WHY do we have this doofus in the office now who is completely unworthy of the title of president!!!!!!!

  21. 2012 May 7 4:57 pm
    justrand permalink

  22. 2012 May 7 4:59 pm
    justrand permalink

    JM, I’m eager to back!! Next time we’re down

  23. 2012 May 7 5:08 pm
    JustMary permalink

    #23 Oh you would love the changes!!!! I saw you get teary before….and that was with only seeing about 1/3 of the place. I really must insist that you refrain from wearing any mascara if you want to go back. 😆 😛

    Anyway- it took us about 3 hours to see it all today. That is how many new things there are to see now. What a thoughtful man though- his letters, the notes he took, his quotes on the walls….

  24. 2012 May 7 5:15 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Nah, I don’t drink Fosters.

  25. 2012 May 7 5:22 pm
    JustMary permalink

    This quote really choked me up today, especially in light of some stuff my family is going through:

    Whatever happens now, I owe my life to God and will try to serve Him in every way I can.
    – Ronald Reagan

  26. 2012 May 7 5:33 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    I like Rand Paul more and more — http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/298770/restore-law-s-focus-paul-j-larkin-jr# — At least currently he is brandishing some common sense.

  27. 2012 May 7 5:55 pm
    drdog09 permalink

  28. 2012 May 7 6:35 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    drdog – what #27 is going to do, is cause some poor soul to go into his/her local government office and go postal.

    When the law makes you a criminal when you did nothing malicious, and you feel that the total weight of the government is against you with no way out. There is only one option left to you.

    Go back to the movie “John Doe”, it is going to be the only recourse.

    Just lately, Ted Nugent and his comments that he is either going to be dead or in jail because of government.

    Regardless, the Cass Sunsteins are going to use government to nudge us and if this does not work they are going to push a little harder (make us criminals).

    It is then, that we need to get in their face and say “get down MFer” as we kill some MFer’s and burn their crap.

    When a government does not listen to reason, it is time to resort to what they do understand.

  29. 2012 May 7 6:54 pm
    mulletover permalink

    In the past few weeks, obama is hitting on about 3 cylinders, and if it keeps up, Romney will coast in along with a strong Senate.

    Beware the lame duck session.

    May fire ants infest the shorts of Harry Reid as he presides.

  30. 2012 May 7 6:58 pm

    If the kenyan fraud loses,out of revenge, expect a blanket amnesty for illegals by exec order.

  31. 2012 May 7 7:04 pm
    mulletover permalink

    Dick Morris was putting out a high alert for the Law of the Sea Treaty, and some treaty regarding the Int’l Criminal Court.

    Obama wants to sign both (and others), and Reid and Lugar want to get them ratified.

    Bad $hit in all of the above including your amnesty.

  32. 2012 May 7 7:12 pm
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 –

    I just hope that Crazy Ron’s reputation doesn’t stain Rand.

  33. 2012 May 7 7:14 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Another O/T game between the Capitals and Rangers. So far this year, the Stanley Cup playoffs might be the best ever.

  34. 2012 May 7 7:48 pm

    28 – Not just our children.

  35. 2012 May 7 7:54 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    BC, I hope Rand can avoid the Capital Disease.

    KH, I can’t disagree with your sentiment. But even so, I look after the clan first the best I can.

  36. 2012 May 7 7:55 pm


    I find this amusing as “news”, if there ever was a month this would have happened wouldn’t everyone expect it to be in April when most file their returns? I mean I suppose it’s of some note only in that spending was so bad the prior three years that it didn’t happen but still not exactly something for the administration to be proud about.

    Bottom line is nothing has changed:
    “Even with Monday’s good fiscal news, the government is expected to run a $1 trillion deficit in fiscal year 2012, which began Oct. 1.”

  37. 2012 May 7 8:05 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Dit, dit, dit, dit, this just in from the Russian tom, toms. Wife says that the Man on the Street Russian now calls the US dollar the Barack Obama. We are down to 22 Barack Obama’s to the Ruble for a face on face trade on the street. (Three years ago it was near 30:1)

  38. 2012 May 7 8:31 pm

    I didn’t realize Putin was allowing men on the streets to express themselves, well without taking some pain for it anyway. 😉

  39. 2012 May 7 9:17 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “How to successfully rob someone:

    Decide you want something, get 2/3’s majority vote justifying what you want, insist that someone gives you a portion of their hard earned money for it, and apply force if they don’t. Sound familiar?’


  40. 2012 May 7 9:24 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “Your Money or Your Life

    Consider first that despite the insistence of public-choice theorists that
    political relations have the nature of an exchange in which the subjects pay
    “tax prices” to acquire services supplied by the government, the transaction
    in question bears little resemblance to market exchange. Unlike General
    Motors or Safeway, whose offers you may take or leave, the government
    threatens to kill you if you steadfastly resist entering into its deal. Hence, in
    “political exchange,” death and taxes go together just as they do in the
    Mafia’s proverbial “offer you can’t refuse.”

    In the United States, members of Congress and the tax authorities enjoy
    describing our tax system as based on voluntary compliance, but everyone
    of normal intelligence appreciates that this is pure buncombe.”


  41. 2012 May 7 9:36 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “The value of the money dropped by about half during the Civil War (excluding the
    Confederacy, where the paper currency became totally worthless), World
    War I, and World War II. In the last case, the government concealed the
    decline of the dollar’s value during the war by imposing comprehensive price
    controls, then allowed the dollar’s shrunken value to reveal itself in 1946
    and 1947 after the real damage had been done.

    Rulers have appreciated how inflation serves as a tax since the days
    when monarchs clipped the coins. Once governments had begun to issue
    paper currency, the hidden tax became even easier to levy.”

  42. 2012 May 7 9:42 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Most of the harm in the world is done by good people, and not by accident, lapse, or omission. It is the result of their deliberate actions, long persevered in, which they hold to be motivated by high ideals toward virtuous ends. -Isabel Paterson

  43. 2012 May 7 9:46 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “Certainly if the harm done by willful criminals were to be computed, the number of murders, the extent of damage and loss, would be found negligible in the sum total of death and devastation wrought upon human beings by their kind. Therefore it is obvious that in periods when millions are slaughtered, when torture is practiced, starvation enforced, oppression made a policy, as at present over a large part of the world, and as it has often been in the past, it must be at the behest of very many good people, and even by their direct action, for what they consider a worthy object. When they are not the immediate executants, they are on record as giving approval, elaborating justifications, or else cloaking facts with silence, and discountenancing discussion.”


  44. 2012 May 7 9:58 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “If the primary objective of the philanthropist, his justification for living, is to help others, his ultimate good requires that others shall be in want. His happiness is the obverse of their misery. If he wishes to help “humanity,” the whole of humanity must be in need. The humanitarian wishes to be a prime mover in the lives of others.

    He cannot admit either the divine or the natural order, by which men have the power to help themselves.

    The humanitarian puts himself in the place of God.”

  45. 2012 May 7 10:12 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Tyranny is always better organized than freedom. – Charles Peguy

  46. 2012 May 7 10:17 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual crime. – Max Stirner

  47. 2012 May 7 10:56 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “And if anything, on that front, it’s probably worse for Romney. Granted, it shows once again that President Obama has not yet been able to seal the deal on his signature piece of legislation. No, it’s not a great success. But given the consistently dismal poll results surrounding the law, a slight lead, even within the margin of error, is actually a decent showing relative to other polls on the issue.

    That’s not the case for Romney. What this poll shows is that the former governor has not been able to press what would seem to be the Republican party’s natural advantage on health care. In the two years since ObamaCare’s passage, polls have consistently shown the law to be subbornly unpopular. About two thirds of the public opposes the individual mandate to purchase health insurance. Roughly half say they want to see the entire law repealed. Yet on health issues, Romney, the candidate who says he wants to repeal the most significant health law in decades, is trailing Obama, the president who passed it. At this point in the election pre-season, the Republican candidate ought to have a lead over Obama on health care issues. But Romney’s starting a position of weakness.

    This is exactly what many warned would happen should Romney, whose Massachusetts health plan served as the model for Obama’s law, become the nominee. In recent weeks a number of Democrats have warned that the health law may be a liability for the party in November. But thanks to Mitt Romney, it may not be a liability that Republicans can use to their advantage. ”


  48. 2012 May 8 4:18 am

    40. Sounds very familiar, except for that 2/3rds part, usually it’s more like just over half.

  49. 2012 May 8 5:44 am
    justrand permalink

  50. 2012 May 8 5:51 am
    justrand permalink

    if you only rad and pass on ONE THING today…read and pass THIS on to as many people as you can. http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/obamas_second_term_transformation_plans.html

    Yes, we’ve dicsussed this a lot…but this is one of the best summations of this I have read to date…and it is what is truly at stake in 2012. The last 4 years have been PROLOGUE

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