When Does He Pop?

2012 June 13
by drdog09

Yes I mean Obama. But I don’t mean in the postal sense of the phrase. No, when does it pop into everyone’s head that there is a sense of enviably Obama loses? You see it in sports, politics, relationships. There is this crowd sense that the `Mo` has moved to the other team that only unchallenged slam dunks or three unchallenged TD’s overcome the feeling.

Obama has to be getting to that point with the electorate. The man appears to have botched Wisconsin. Feedback says Romney has a lead there right now. The German press seems to be down The Won as well. Wall Street is turning, having had enough of the Occupy crowd and Obama’s willing association, with their money. Even Carville is doubtful —

We are losing these voters on the economy, but holding on because Romney is very vulnerable. They do not trust him because of who he is for and because he’s out of touch with ordinary people; he is vulnerable on the Ryan budget and its impact on people; he is vulnerable on the choices over taxes. But in the current context, it produces a fairly diminished embrace of Obama and the Democrats, the lesser of two evils, without much feeling of hope.


Now some might say that last weeks gaffe about the economy is it —

In the end it might be true. But somehow I chalk that one up to starting the ball rolling. I suspect that the real clincher is some future event. A debate or a Macaa Moment. Other than us political junkies most Americans don’t really think about the election till about a month out. So here is the question for the readership — What do you think will be the event that seals Obama’s fate. Or do you think that event has already occurred?

39 Responses leave one →
  1. 2012 June 13 3:39 pm
    justrand permalink

    I think the event(s) have occurred over & over…but because the media has been able to collectively ignore them, Obama hasn’t YET popped. And may never “pop”.

    But like a tire with a bunch of small nails in it, the air is definitely going out.

    BUT…if Romney makes just ONE SMALL GAFFE the media will pounce and turn it into the most horrendous event in human history! That is the danger of the double-standard. And the American people still respond to frenzys!

  2. 2012 June 13 3:50 pm
    bc3b permalink

    JR –

    BUT…if Romney makes just ONE SMALL GAFFE the media will pounce and turn it into the most horrendous event in human history!

    Very true. If Mitt Romney is wise he will agree only to live TV interviews, which cannot be edited.

  3. 2012 June 13 3:56 pm
    RepublicanPundit permalink

    BUT…if Romney makes just ONE SMALL GAFFE the media will pounce and turn it into the most horrendous event in human history!

  4. 2012 June 13 3:58 pm
    RepublicanPundit permalink

    ….But Romney should only do a debate where he can pick the place and the commentators.

  5. 2012 June 13 4:24 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    My concern is what desperate tricks the cornered DemoRAT has up his sleeves. A promise to forgive mortgage and/or college debt held by the government (or even private companies as done with the GM bonds) would seem to fit the bill. Doesn’t matter if he actually intended to follow up on the promise when re-elected or if it is something he would even have the power to do, but such a move would potentially draw out the moocher class in droves.

  6. 2012 June 13 4:32 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “In case you hadn’t heard, even if the Supreme Court overturns the progressives’ federal health care juggernaut, prominent GOP leaders vow to preserve its most “popular” provisions. These big-government Republicans show appalling indifference to the dire market disruptions and culture of dependency that Obamacare schemes have wrought.

    GOP Sen. Roy Blunt of Missouri, vice chair of the Senate GOP Conference, told a St. Louis radio station two weeks ago that he supports keeping at least three Obamacare regulatory pillars: federally imposed coverage of “children” up to age 26 on their parents’ health insurance policies (the infamous, unfunded “slacker mandate”), federally mandated coverage regardless of pre-existing conditions (“guaranteed issue,” which leads to an adverse-selection death spiral) and closure of the coverage gap in the massive Bush-backed Medicare drug entitlement (the “donut hole fix” that will obliterate the program’s cost-controls).

    Some Republicans are even trying to out-Obama Obamacare. GOP Rep. Steve Stivers of Ohio is pushing a proposal to increase the mandatory coverage age for dependents to age 31. And once a fire-breathing dragon for repeal, GOP Sen. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee hem-hawed when asked by the liberal Talking Points Memo website whether Republicans would be introducing specific bills to preserve the guaranteed issue and slacker mandate provisions.

    “Well, I think we need to be prepared,” Alexander told TPM. “And we will be prepared.””


  7. 2012 June 13 4:32 pm
    RepublicanPundit permalink

    MPT. Been there, done that. Don’t you remember that woman who thought Obama would take care of her mortgage and car payment?

  8. 2012 June 13 4:33 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    I hate how the media refers to Obama saying “The private sector is doing fine” as a gaffe. A gaffe is defined as: An unintentional act or remark causing embarrassment to its originator. Listen to his actual words in full context. What Obama said was no gaffe at all. It was a carefully made, deliberate statement on the man’s true feelings about the state of our economy. The fact it the statement exposes Obama as an out of touch, narcissistic, idiot doesn’t make his statement a gaffe.

  9. 2012 June 13 4:36 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    Don’t you remember that woman who thought Obama would take care of her mortgage and car payment?

    Yeah. But there is a big difference between some idiot at a rally saying it and Obama holding a press conference and announcing it as the new administration policy. In both cases it would still be an idiot making the statement, but you know what I mean.

  10. 2012 June 13 4:38 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    …GOP leaders vow to preserve its most “popular” provisions. These big-government Republicans show appalling indifference to the dire market disruptions and culture of dependency that Obamacare schemes have wrought.

    Gee, with Romney as President, what could go wrong?

  11. 2012 June 13 4:40 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #10 Speaking of our new “hero” Willard:

    30.“Where does presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney stand? Despite repeated assurances that he will abandon Obamacare in its entirety, Romney is surrounded by GOP socialized medicine helpmates. In January, Romney adviser Norm Coleman said, “(We’re) not going to repeal the act in its entirety … you can’t whole cloth throw it out.”

    Earlier this month, Romney named former Utah GOP Gov. Mike Leavitt his transition leader. Leavitt supports and has profited handsomely from Obamacare’s health care exchange mandate. Then there’s the Romneycare mandate in Massachusetts, conceived by Obamacare architect and MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, which includes the very same slacker mandate provision enshrined in the Democrats’ law.

    Who needs enemies when you’ve got Republican Surrenderists for Obamacare waiting in the wings?”


  12. 2012 June 13 4:42 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    Wylie. Throwing out Obama is Phase I. Throwing out RINO squishes is Phase II.

  13. 2012 June 13 4:45 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    I agree that Romney has the most exposure if he goofs. That’s a given. He’s the AntiChrist for most in the MSM.

    But I note that the teflon is slowly sloughing off The One. Personally I think his real boner will be during the debates, if there be any.

  14. 2012 June 13 4:46 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #8 Its very similar to when the MSM covered Obama for the supposed “gaffe” of eliminating God from the Declaration of Independence

    Just like this statement about the private sector, Obama was simply stating his fundamental heart-n-mind held belief that the State/Government “creates” and “confers” rights as they see fit

    God does not and cannot exsist in Obama’s world since if a Supreme Creator of the human race was acknowledged at then he could not claim exclusivive power for a small group that controls the state to be the “creators” of our rights!

    Obama was simply repeating in both cases core beliefs of the faith that he puts his trust in: the supremcy of the State and the elite that runs it

  15. 2012 June 13 4:47 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #12 Right, but since I have heard that before and it didnt happen (PH II) call me very skeptical.

    Its time to get radical and extreme IDO Liberty

  16. 2012 June 13 4:51 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “This is to be expected when governments control health care. Since state funding makes medical services seem free, demand increases. Governments deal with that by rationing. Advocates of government health care hate the word “rationing” because it forces them to face an ugly truth: Once you accept the idea that taxpayers pay, individual choice dies. Someone else decides what treatment you get, and when.

    At least in America, we still have some choice. We can pay to get what we want. Under government health care, bureaucrats will decide how long we wait for our knee operation or cataract surgery … or if we get lifesaving treatment at all.

    When someone else pays for your health care, that someone else also decides when to pull the plug. The reason can be found in Econ 101. Medical care doesn’t grow on trees. It must be produced by human and physical capital, and those resources are limited. Politicians can’t repeal supply and demand.”


  17. 2012 June 13 4:51 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    Wylie, I’m very skeptical as well. I’m just stating what the plan is. Not whether it has a snowball’s chance in hell of happening.

  18. 2012 June 13 4:55 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Simply put, if you can’t get rid of Obama, then getting rid of the RINO’s doesn’t have a prayer.

  19. 2012 June 13 4:59 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #17 Yep, its the “ice water with lemon” in hell plan again

    Einstien once said that the definition of insanity was “reapeating the same thing over and over again yet expecting different results”

    How many times are we gonna be sold this snakeoil (by alot of the same old snakes)?

  20. 2012 June 13 5:03 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #18 Agreed since politicans by nature are simply chamelons who reflect popular opinion, but there comes a point (rapidly approaching IMO) where things become bad enough where the tyrannical impulses of the misguided majority must be resisted

    Public opinion or elections dont justify oppression of minoritys or one’s individual God-given rights

  21. 2012 June 13 5:05 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “There is something fishy about the head of the world’s most powerful government bureaucracy, one that is involved in a full-time counterfeiting operation to sustain monopolistic financial cartels, and the world’s most powerful central planner, who sets the price of money worldwide, proclaiming the glories of capitalism.”
    – Ron Paul

  22. 2012 June 13 5:12 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “What is true about Mavrodi’s insights is that fiat money is indeed a Ponzi scheme. When fiat money collapses, as it does, inevitably, central banks print more of it. People lose the value of their investments via inflation and currency debasement. Often, they don’t understand fully the value of what they have lost.

    Most money in the world is created by quasi public/private central banks. These central banks use governments to create the credibility they need. Government is an integral part of the scheme.”


  23. 2012 June 13 5:38 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Hey IP, hopefully you have booked this as the ship’s photographer — http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/08/us-usa-leisure-nudists-idUSBRE85716720120608

  24. 2012 June 13 5:42 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Ok, maybe —

    Two obvious problems here for O. One, per Jay Cost: He’s essentially a prisoner of fate at this point. No one’s expecting any dramatic uptick in the country’s economic numbers before November; the best he can hope for is continued weak growth and that the eurozone holds together until election day. Which is to say, barring an uncharacteristic major Romney gaffe, there’s no reason to think his numbers with indies are going to improve much on the economy. Two: That sharp decline in job approval among independents in the Reuters poll may be the first sign of former centrist Obama supporters starting to peel away en masse, with others soon to follow based on the June and July jobs reports and how Romney handles himself over the next six weeks or so. You often hear observers of the 1980 election talk about how close the race was until the debates, when Reagan finally shot past Carter decisively by proving to the wavering middle that he was up to the job. Romney may be nearing that same point: Part of the reason some indies may be leery of his economic plan is that they haven’t had a good long look at him yet. The worse the economy does under O, the lower the psychological bar will get for Mitt, such that an impressive performance on the trail and mano a mano with Obama in the fall will shake loose all sorts of fencesitters. These numbers could be an early sign of some shaking.

  25. 2012 June 13 6:11 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Greeks have pulled $1Bn out of banks leading up to the new elections. http://www.cnbc.com/id/47793980

  26. 2012 June 13 6:14 pm
    MI Conservative permalink

    Did anyone just see Michelle Malkin literally bitchslap Juan Williams on hannity? WOW

  27. 2012 June 13 6:17 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Rep Justin Amash:

    “The extremists want budgets that never balance, one man to decide the value of money, laws that benefit only their friends, endless undeclared wars, and indefinite detention without charge or trial.

    I will always stand up to the extremists. I will always stand with you.”

  28. 2012 June 13 6:18 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Every man has a property in his own person: this no body has any right to but himself. The labour of his body, and the work of his hands, we may say, are properly his. – John Locke

  29. 2012 June 13 6:19 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Every friend of freedom must be as revolted as I am by the prospect of turning the United States into an armed camp, by the vision of jails filled with casual drug users and of an army of enforcers empowered to invade the liberty of citizens on slight evidence. – Milton Friedman

  30. 2012 June 13 6:21 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “Representative government cannot express the will of the mass of the people, because there is no mass of the people; The People is a fiction, like The State. You cannot get a Will of the Mass, even among a dozen persons who all want to go on a picnic…the population of a country is a multitude of diverse human beings with an infinite variety of purposes and desires and fluctuating wills.” –Rose Wilder Lane

  31. 2012 June 13 6:21 pm
    mulletover permalink

    An October surprise is all but guaranteed, and it will undoubtedly be unfavorable to the Republican. Bush’s DUI, Foley’s sex with pages problem, the financial crisis and McCain’s predictable response to it, and others gave the liberal press an opportunity to shape the story to favor the democrat.

    Romney’s campaign has, so far, shown an ability to respond, and even turn the story around. Hope that continues.

    And who knows what kind of craziness comes out of the Charlotte convention. The Charlotte PD and the NC Troopers are ready.

  32. 2012 June 13 6:21 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “The spirit of improvement is not always a spirit of liberty, for it may aim at forcing improvements on an unwilling people.” –John Stuart Mill

  33. 2012 June 13 6:27 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “Each government accuses the other of perfidy, intrigue and ambition, as a means of heating the imagination of their respective nations, and incensing them to hostilities. Man is not the enemy of man, but through the medium of a false system of government.” –Thomas Paine

  34. 2012 June 13 6:41 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “I count exactly one benefit to New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s proposed ban on some soft drink containers larger than 16 ounces: It has smoked out some of the worst public policy thinking this side of the cash-for-clunkers brainfart. Jacob Sullum has previously pointed out New Yorker writer Alex Koppelman’s do-something hi-five for Bloomberg’s “incorrigible nannyism,” and evolutionary biologist Daniel Lieberman’s startling conclusion that “we have evolved to need coercion.””


  35. 2012 June 13 6:42 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “Writing in The New York Times, Harvard evolutionary biologist Daniel Lieberman defends Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s proposed 16-ounce restriction on soft drink servings, arguing that “we have evolved to need coercion””


  36. 2012 June 13 6:48 pm
    mulletover permalink

  37. 2012 June 13 7:21 pm
    mpthompson permalink

    And who knows what kind of craziness comes out of the Charlotte convention.

    I’m hoping for one last hurrah from the OWS crowd and the Democrats treating them like red-headed stepchildren. That would be most popcorn worthy.

  38. 2012 June 14 5:05 am
    drdog09 permalink

    I’m hoping for one last hurrah from the OWS crowd — MPT

    Ah, would a repeat of the 1968 Dim convention in Chicago be popcorn worthy enough??? 🙂

  39. 2012 June 14 2:04 pm

    If he hasn’t popped by now he never will.

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