The Disingenuous Left

2012 November 18
by justrand

I have been in “discussions” with a couple of my Leftist friends.  Both spouted the exact same Dem talking points: “Life was good and we were prosperous when the top income tax rate was 90%, or even 70%”

Okey Dokey…in 1980 (when the GREAT Jimmah Carter was President) the rates in effect are those shown in column 3, for the income ranges in columns 1 & 2.  THEN, I have used the Consumer Price Index multiplier from the BLS to indicate equivalent income ranges today (column 4 & 5).  Finally, way out in column 6 are the rates in effect now…thanks to the EVIL George W. Bush.

Simply find your income range in columns 4 & 5, and then note the column 3 tax rate, versus the column 6 tax rate.  The 2012 ranges are slightly different…so they don’t match up perfectly…but close enough.

Thus, for example, if you’re income range TODAY is $61,500 to $74,750, you are paying a %15 tax rate.  But if we go back to the good old days of Jimmah Carter…you get to pay 32%.  Over double.  Good news, eh?  (remember, Joe Biden says “Taxes are patriotic!”)

But disingenuous Left wants to leave all the rates as they are…except one rate: those over $250,000.  Most of them now pay between 33% and 35%…and would (per the Left wet-dream) pay 59% to 70%.

Reality, of course, is that raising just ONE set of rates will raise $87 billion a year against an annual deficit of $1.4 TRILLION…yet raising just ONE rate is all the Left proposes.    So ya gotta raise ‘em all…sorry folks. 


33 Responses leave one →
  1. 2012 November 18 1:52 pm
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 –

    Briefly watching Sex and the Single Girl on TCM. They just showed a scene in which Tony Curtis was getting food out of the automat. Thought of you.

  2. 2012 November 18 3:51 pm
    bc3b permalink

    “Callista and I” bashes Romney for saying Obama “bought the election” with gifts for minorities and the young:–election.html

    And, to think that in the mid-1990s I actually liked this scumbag.

  3. 2012 November 18 3:52 pm
    bc3b permalink

    College football coach firings begin:

    – Derrick Dooley at Tennessee
    – Bill Cubit at Western Michigan

    Pretty soon the NFL coach firings will begin. Norvm Turner (San Diego) should be at the top of the list along with Rex Ryan and Romeo Crenell.

  4. 2012 November 18 5:49 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    BC, Hmmm. Will have to fire up the media center and look for that scene. 🙂 Darn funny movie.

  5. 2012 November 18 5:52 pm
    bc3b permalink

    If the Steelers were prisoners of war, they couldn’t be forced to wear those uniforms.

  6. 2012 November 18 6:18 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    JR, Those tax table are not the whole story. Back in Jimmyah’s day we also had the following to moderate rates —

    * 3 yr income averaging. This was a particularly nice thing for those folks that worked a commission sales job or the small business owner who have a couple of previous bad years to sop up a really profitable year.
    * The expense line on deductibles was 100%. Many a middle incomer was a country clubbers thanks to that. The manna of the three martini lunch. Oh and if your employees total expense lines were less than $25k no need to itemize!
    * Two dep schedules — straight line and DDB.
    * 100% of your credit cards interest was deductible.
    * Half of your medical ins prem. up to $1500 cap was deductible. You could also deduct all out of pocket med expenses up to the difference between you qualified AGI and the expense no cap.
    * Personal property taxes were deductible.

    The point is you could be straight line gross in the 70% bracket and thanks to expense deductions and offsets could get your effective tax rate down in the 30% range.

    Here’s the Sched C form if ya interested —–1980.pdf&ei=A5OpUPmvJsj7qgGMlIDADQ&usg=AFQjCNFqPAJvmGCDal2PSndblyfacE8KDw&sig2=P30y-P-4V8Ef6am5aQjZRg

  7. 2012 November 18 6:57 pm
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 –

    * any interest was deductable – not juet credit cards but auto loans, home remodeling loans, etc.
    * state sales taxes earned tax credits. They had a table for the states.

  8. 2012 November 18 7:00 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Sunday Night Football is bad tonight:
    * The Steelers uniforms are actually painful to look at
    * No offense
    * No cheerleaders

  9. 2012 November 18 7:04 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    So true BC.

  10. 2012 November 18 7:24 pm
    mulletover permalink

    An ESPN SportsNation poll last month found 65% of respondents hated the retro uniforms while only 14% liked them.

    Subsequent research found that the 14% were habitual glue sniffers.

  11. 2012 November 18 7:56 pm
    bc3b permalink

    I think the Steelers retro uniforms give them an advantage. It’s harder for their opponents to pick up their numbers. The same was true when my kids played soccer and their opponents had red jerseys with black numbers.

  12. 2012 November 18 8:04 pm
    bc3b permalink

    “An ESPN SportsNation poll last month found 65% of respondents hated the retro uniforms while only 14% liked them.”

    Mullet –

    Tell me ONE thing that’s wrong with the Buccaneers cheerleaders’ retro uniforms above. Cleavage, exposed midsections, show plenty of leg. What’s wrong with them?

  13. 2012 November 18 8:09 pm
    mulletover permalink

    bc, you’re right.

    and the Steelers should be showing cleavage, midsections, and plenty of leg.


    The two Bucs babes would look great wrapped in a hot dog wrapper.

  14. 2012 November 18 8:20 pm
    bc3b permalink

    “The two Bucs babes would look great wrapped in a hot dog wrapper.”

    I’ll take the one on the left with mustard and relish.

  15. 2012 November 18 9:16 pm

    2 – At least he was fairly effective in his job *at that time* – I can not say the same for most that have followed.

    I really don’t understand the need for all the rino’s to be tripping over themselves to comment on Romney’s comments. If I were them I’d be thinking…who gives a sh1t..

  16. 2012 November 19 5:25 am

    Rrriiiiinnnnggg, rrriiiinnnngg,**

    **’Hi honey.** **This is Daddy.**
    **Is Mommy near the phone?’**

    **’No, Daddy.**
    **She’s upstairs in the bedroom with Uncle Gabe.’**

    **After a brief pause,**

    **Daddy says,**
    **’But honey, you haven’t got an Uncle Gabe.’**

    **’Oh yes I do, and he’s upstairs in the room with Mommy,**
    **Right now..’**

    Brief Pause.

    **’Uh, okay then, this is what I want you to do.**
    **Put the phone down on the table, run upstairs**
    **And knock on the bedroom door and shout to Mommy**
    **That Daddy’s car just pulled into the driveway.’**

    **’Okay, Daddy, Just a minute.’**

    **A few minutes later**
    **The little girl comes back to the phone.**

    **’I did it, Daddy.’**

    **’And what happened, honey?’ **

    ‘Well, Mommy got all scared, jumped out of bed with no clothes on

    and ran around screaming.**

    **Then she tripped over the rug, hit her head on the dresser**
    **And now she isn’t moving at all!’**

    **’Oh my God!!! What about your Uncle Gabe?’**

    **’He jumped out of the bed with no clothes on, too.**

    **He was all scared and he jumped out of the back window**
    **And into the swimming pool..**
    **But I guess he didn’t know that you took out the water**
    **Last week to clean it.**

    **He hit the bottom of the pool and I think he’s dead.’**

    *****Long Pause*****

    *****Longer Pause*****

    *****Even Longer Pause*****

    **Then Daddy says,**

    **’Swimming pool? …………**

    **Is this 486-5731?’*

    **No, I think you have the wrong number……..

  17. 2012 November 19 5:43 am
    drdog09 permalink

    *** We’re AT&T here to let you reach out and touch someone…. ***

  18. 2012 November 19 6:22 am
    drdog09 permalink

  19. 2012 November 19 6:23 am
    mulletover permalink

    The Drudge picture display this morning is a “gag a maggot” moment.

  20. 2012 November 19 7:07 am
    bc3b permalink

    While some people in NJ are still without power, Chris Christie (the left’s new most favorite Republican) clowns on Saturday Night Live:

    Cory Booker just may be the first Dem I contribute to.

  21. 2012 November 19 7:16 am
    bc3b permalink

    From Drudge:

    President Calls Burma ‘Myanmar’ as ‘Diplomatic Courtesy’…
    Gets top dissident’s name wrong repeatedly…

    And, none of it will be reported by MSM.

  22. 2012 November 19 7:18 am
    fight on permalink

    I think contributing to Booker should be the next operation choas. We need to get Christie’s fat ass out of the party and out of the lime light.

  23. 2012 November 19 7:29 am

    Rubio & Jindal while we’re at it.

  24. 2012 November 19 7:38 am

  25. 2012 November 19 7:41 am
    justrand permalink

    IP, in #26…all you can do sometimes is avoid the boot!

    But BEFORE the boot starts to descend, we can starve the beast behind it!

  26. 2012 November 19 7:54 am

    what we will be be limited to.

  27. 2012 November 19 7:55 am

  28. 2012 November 19 7:59 am
    bc3b permalink

    ip –

    I got the boot from FreeRepublic twice – the first time for bashing Bush43 before it was cool to bash him and the second time for bashing Newt “Mr. Amnesty” Gingrich. Jim Robinson is a bit of a fascist, but it’s his site.

  29. 2012 November 19 9:12 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Talking of freepers, they had this on how Iran handles Gay Pride Week —

  30. 2012 November 19 10:10 am

    19 – Recovery winter continues :roll:
    Maybe Timmy will get what he said he wanted Friday… no more debt ceiling, I’m sure that will go over well.

  31. 2012 November 19 10:41 am

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