The Price of Freedom

2013 January 11
by justrand

The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution does NOT exist in order to allow for hunting, and defense against burglars. Yet the media/Democrat/Leftist cabal (ok, they really ARE the same people) is succeeding in focusing the conversation regarding the American right to bear arms into that narrow perspective.

The 2nd Amendment doesn’t mention “hunting” or “defense of domicile”…or even “personal defense”. The stated purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to ensure “the security of a free state”. And thus flat out states that: “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”. PERIOD!

The Founders KNEW what the purpose of the 2nd Amendment was…and that it was THE linchpin of our Freedom.

Noah Webster:

Before a standing army can rule the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States

Patrick Henry:

Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined

We The People, with the right to bear arms (whether we exercise that right or not) are the ONLY obstacle to the inevitable ruination and tyranny that results from a supreme central government.

There are those who fervently seek just such a supreme central government…for purely benevolent reasons, of course. They see the 2nd Amendment as an obstacle preventing the glorious creation of an all-knowing all-providing all-powerful government that ushers in nirvana. Thus they must limit (read: falsify) the purpose of the 2nd Amendment to two things: (1) hunting, (2) personal PHYSICAL safety.

They seek to demonize the first (hunting), and/or so limit the practice that only the smallest fraction of Americans would have access to “hunting” or “sporting” weapons”…and then only under strict control (“shooting clubs”, where the weapon must be checked in and out, for example).

The real focus is on the second supposed reason for the 2nd Amendment: personal physical safety. If the Left can convince people that they will be overall safer if disarmed, then they believe they will have eliminated the only other reason for the 2nd Amendment. And thus the focus of Joe Biden and his “Task Force” is on that point.

But as has been noted, the real purpose of the 2nd Amendment is NOT to facilitate hunting, and NOT for our personal security…it is for the “security of a free state”. It is to protect us from EXACTLY the type of politicians now ruling our country. Our Funders foresaw their rise…and set the 2nd Amendment as a check against them.

How much does a gun cost? It depends on the gun, of course…but look online or go to a gun store or gun show, and you can find out the prices…for now. Whether you buy one or not, as long as the price can openly be discussed it is the Price of Freedom. When the day comes that the only way to acquire one is from a shady character in a dark alley, your right to own that firearm will have been abolished…and your freedom imperiled, if not lost.


35 Responses leave one →
  1. 2013 January 11 9:06 am
    JustMary permalink

    Good stuff

  2. 2013 January 11 9:13 am
    JustMary permalink

    I go back and forth as to whether or not Obama will confiscate guns. I think his very first order of business will be mental health checks on guns, and a gun registry. At first, people might agree that it was a good thing that mental health screenings of the owner and household members is a good thing, but keep in mind that people with food storage, Christians, conservatives, and a whole host of other categories were deemed as ‘terrorist’ by the DHS, so ‘impaired mental health’ could just as easily be attached to your voting preference- after all, who in their ‘right mind’ wouldn’t vote for the light bringer Obama?

  3. 2013 January 11 9:48 am
    Mr Evilwrench permalink

    As usual, they’ll go for it all, then “compromise” for less, to come back for more next session. Chip away a bit at a time until they get what they want. Let’s see if we run out of them before they run out of us.

  4. 2013 January 11 9:51 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Piers is lying through his teeth about only wanting to get assault rifles. One need only turn the wayback machine to 1996 and the dunblane killings. These executions were committed with semi auto handguns. They became the emphasis for the UK outlawing the owning of handguns.

    But here is the interesting twist. The Daily Mirror was one of the Brit rags in making a drumbeat for outlawing guns in the UK. The editor of the paper at the time? Why none other than Piers Morgan! See more here.

  5. 2013 January 11 9:55 am
    drdog09 permalink

    but keep in mind that people with food storage, Christians, conservatives, and a whole host of other categories were deemed as ‘terrorist’ by the DHS, — JM

    Well it is always a matter of perspective. I merely observe that if you keep animals on your property then you have an excuse that you need to keep feed supplies and medicines for the animals. That they serve a dual purpose is not your fault….

  6. 2013 January 11 10:08 am

    Registration first~~~~confiscation later. You can’t confiscate unless you know where they all are.

  7. 2013 January 11 10:17 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Country sheriff’s have more authority to nullify federal law? SCOTUS says so — Scalia delivered the opinion. So what is the stance of YOUR county sheriff on defense of the 2nd amendment?

    More here —

  8. 2013 January 11 10:18 am
    justrand permalink

    JM is correct in that any time the government gets to define and RE-define the term, and then apply that “term” to control some action, it is way past a slippery slope to tyranny.

    Two examples:
    (1) “Wealthy” – the definition of what constitutes “wealthy” is nebulous (at best) and sliding. Everyone agrees Bill Gates is “wealthy”. But how far down does “wealthy” go? $1 million…$450,000…$200,000??? The Democrats used all three of those numbers intermittenly during the last 12 months alone. And Greece just defined “wealthy” as anyone making over $45,000 (adjusted from the Euro, and for Greece’s “economy”). But once we get everyone to agree that such-and-such a rule applies ONLY to the “wealthy”…without defining who IS “wealthy”, the government has the ability to apply that rule to anyone!!

    (2) “mental health issues” relative to guns – hmmm, as JM notes, they defined “Potential Domestic Terrorist” in a way that covered about 90% of TEA Party members. Great. So defining “mental health issues” vaguely and broadly will enable them to apply whatever rule they want to whomever they want. Don’t want to say a Loyalty Oath to Lord Obama???? YOU have “mental health issues”!!

  9. 2013 January 11 10:23 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Many Russian dissidents never went to gulags, they were referred to mental facilities and were classified as deranged. Course all the Russians did was change the name over the front door. Today its Stalag 12, tomorrow it is mental facility 22. The guards are now orderlies and the commandant is now the `medical administrator`.

  10. 2013 January 11 10:32 am
    drdog09 permalink

    IP, 6,

    We pretty much have that now, at least at the user level. You fill out the FFL paperwork and they know you are the original owner.

  11. 2013 January 11 11:13 am
    justrand permalink

    drdog: “The guards are now orderlies and the commandant is now the `medical administrator`.

    – Gulag…Mental Facility…Re-Education Kamp!
    – Guard…Orderly…Teacher’s Aide!
    – Warden…Medical Administrator…Kamp Counselor!

    of course, to those of us in Hut 1369 the distinction will lost

  12. 2013 January 11 11:28 am

    You fill out the FFL paperwork and they know you are the original owner.

    True, but so far that info stays with the dealer and not the feds.

  13. 2013 January 11 11:32 am
    justrand permalink

    but what form do you fill out to document the loss of the firearms in a drunken boating adventure?

    Remember kids: Do NOT take your firearms onto your boat if you are too drunk to even consider you may not even OWN a boat! Jus’ sayin’

  14. 2013 January 11 11:33 am

    Those boating shooting accidents happen to me all the time.

  15. 2013 January 11 11:40 am
    drdog09 permalink

    We have a pond over at the park and you would be surprised the number of people who trip and fall in with their S&W .45. Petition drive currently underway for a combination lifeguard – gunsmith.

    That Stewart piece was funny!

  16. 2013 January 11 2:45 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Yes kiddies, listen to Uncle Rand.

    Guns and booze and boats don’t mix. And, if you must drink, boat and shoot, be sure to have a designated boater/shooter!

    Listen up you little brats. This is serious stuff!

  17. 2013 January 11 2:47 pm
    bc3b permalink

    You can be sure that any negative gun stories are going to make national news. The Georgia mom who protected her kids from an intruder with her gun … not so much.

  18. 2013 January 11 4:30 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    I heard for the first time on Hannity the tape of the GA shooting. Amazing. Wife called husband. Husband called 911, wife still on the cell. Husband talking to 911 operator while he also coaching his wife with the .38, “Just like I showed at the range Dear….”. Shots ringing out. Screams, the perp, not her.

  19. 2013 January 11 4:33 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Lt. Gov Dewhurst, even the RINO that he is, has proposed Texas expend monies to provide handgun training dollars for educators and staff so they maybe armed on campus. — — I don’t like the guy, but this is at least something positive in what he proposes.

  20. 2013 January 11 6:53 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    I personally believe that there is not enough time left for the left. A collapse is coming and then HELL comes right after it.

    The left knows its time is limited. Just like Satan knows his time is limited and the end is near. The left like wise can see the sands running out and they know their time is limited. Why such desperation on their part.

    The worse thing we can do is panic. Let them, keep your head on straight and you will have a better chance of survival. He who loses his head will definitely lose it.

  21. 2013 January 11 7:09 pm
    justrand permalink

    gnqanq: “The worst thing we can do is panic. Let them, keep your head on straight and you will have a better chance of survival. He who loses his head will definitely lose it.”

    Sage advice…VERY!

  22. 2013 January 11 9:29 pm
    PRNmeds permalink

    Heres some not good stuff: Obama and co. just approved a 1 billion dollar foreign aid package to go to Egypt. In the form of f-16 fighter jets. This is directly taking money from OUR PEOPLE, right out of our fucking pockets and just handing to the dictator in charge overseas. I know I don’t have to spell it out, because you all understand. This is so outrageous.

  23. 2013 January 11 9:30 pm
    PRNmeds permalink

  24. 2013 January 11 11:11 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    KH, 26,

    “Now, however, law enforcers in two American states are using crime-prediction software to predict which freed prisoners are most likely to commit murder, and supervising them accordingly.” — from Daily Mail piece

    KH, does that not sound ass backwards to you? They have them in jail now, they are going to be released on parole, and only THEN they are going to apply the software to the parolee’s case???? How about they run the perps case file through the machine and have the results as a determinant for their release?

    Come on folks, your first duty is to protect the public. Damn.

  25. 2013 January 11 11:19 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Those poor Darth Vadaerians. They filed their petition with for a death star. Even got the 25k signatures to get a response. They got one. — — too expensive. Har Har.

  26. 2013 January 12 12:29 am

    28 – No, cause that’s ever MORE ufcked up, you can’t keep people in prison just cause some software “determines\thinks” their likely to offended again.

  27. 2013 January 12 6:15 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Hmmm. But is that not what a panel of `experts` on a parole board do??

  28. 2013 January 12 6:28 am
    justrand permalink

    how about the system Japan used to have (may still have…I don’t know)??

    The Japanese parole system when I was stationed on Okinawa in the 1970s was explained to all Marines during orientation. They wanted to be sure that we all knew how basic aspects of Japanese law worked.

    Over the years criminals released on parole were routinely the object of a vendetta by those they wronged. So to quell this they adopted a process whereby if there was an agrieved party in a violent crime (either the victim or a family member) from a murder, rape, robbery, etc then they were asked whether THEY felt the criminal had served enough of their sentence. If they said “No”, the criminal went back to prison.

    Nice system…I don’t know if they still have it.

  29. 2013 January 12 6:50 am
    justrand permalink

    having nothing to do w/ anything we’re talking about…but something that has always fascinated me:

  30. 2013 January 12 7:49 am
    justrand permalink

    btw…Go NINERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  31. 2013 January 12 8:27 am

    31 – I knew you were going to say that. I want a humans in the process during parole, though I wasn’t even thinking too much about parole per say but about this being used in the future to restrict release *period* or have those not yet in prison watched…. you know…all in the name of the chiiiildren… *sigh* screw the children.

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