The High Cost of Legalizing Illegals

2013 February 1
by bc3b

The GOP seems to be infatuated with “Comprehensive Immigration Reform.” Even budget hawks, like Rand Paul, are talking about the Republican Party embracing CIR in an attempt to woo Hispanic voters even though similar efforts have failed in the past, just as Republican efforts to attract black voters failed spectacularly in the 1950s and 1960s when the GOP spearheaded civil rights legislation.

One aspect of CIR that proponents fail (refuse might be a better word) to address is the billions of dollars that legalization will add in terms of entitlements and social services.

In 2007, welfare expert Robert Rector estimated that the McCain-Kennedy amnesty proposal would cost roughly $2.6 trillion due to the eligibility of illegal aliens turned citizens for transfer payments. As Daniel Horowitz points out, the price tag on the Gang of Eight proposal is even steeper due to the easing of welfare reform requirements and the significant eligibility expansions brought about by President Obama.

It would be interesting to hear John McCain, Lindsey Graham, or Marco Rubio explain to conservatives just why U.S. taxpayers should foot this sort of bill for the benefit of folks who entered this country in violation of its laws.

Rather than offering an explanation, however, Rubio chooses to pretend the problem doesn’t exist. According to Horowitz, Rubio claimed on talk radio that amnestied immigrants would not be eligible for welfare (except for Obamacare, a provision he says is concerning). But this is true, says Horowitz, only during the probationary period. After that period, formerly illegal aliens would be eligible for a green card and citizenship. And once they obtain citizenship, they could receive welfare.

Under these circumstances, and given our fiscal woes, it’s difficult to understand why any fiscal conservative would support the Gang of Eight immigration reform proposal.

Both Barack Obama and Chuck Schumer have downplayed enforcement this week. So, it appears that any CIR enacted will parallel the amnesty of 1986 (amnesty with zero enforcement and 20+ million new illegals in the U.S. waiting for the 2025 amnesty).

Hat tip: Powerline

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  1. 2013 February 1 7:48 am
    drdog09 permalink

    “… But this is true, says Horowitz, only during the probationary period. After that period, formerly illegal aliens would be eligible for a green card and citizenship. And once they obtain citizenship, they could receive welfare. …”

    Yet again another reason the People of the Shadows will remain in the shade. The problem is not that PotS don’t have documents, they have tons, all bogus. PotS then use those docs to acquire tax supported services illegally.

    So here’s the catch 22 — again. To come clean a PotS has to get new documents and forego the benefits they are receiving illegally, which for most is their economic lifeline. Lets see, `give up the benefits I am already receiving, for receiving those benefits again sometime in the future when I have a green card. `

    Now how ya think most of these PotS are going to vote?? Thought so.

  2. 2013 February 1 7:59 am
    bc3b permalink

    Rubio obviously is angling for the Presidency. What the rest of the GOP is doing is pure suicidal.

  3. 2013 February 1 8:01 am
    bc3b permalink

    January jobs report: Unemployment rises to 7.9%, 157K jobs added

  4. 2013 February 1 8:18 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Have you taken note of what is lacking in this current round of CIR?? In the last CIR part of the proposal was that `return` to initiate the process. This time? Not a peep of it.

  5. 2013 February 1 8:26 am
    bc3b permalink

    There’s a lot that is missing drdog09. But, this one’s better because Marco said so.

  6. 2013 February 1 11:32 am

    All you former rubio sycophants please feel free to ~~

  7. 2013 February 1 11:32 am
    bc3b permalink

    169,000 Americans dropped out of the labor force in January:

  8. 2013 February 1 11:53 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Bullet resistance white board anyone? — — Nice concept, but since most teachers can’t conjugate a sentence; I don’t think they are going to be leaping to their feet to grab this when the bullets start flying.

  9. 2013 February 1 12:37 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “All the proverbial bases are touched here. The one that stands out the most, perhaps, is the idea that people’s REAL frustration is government gridlock.

    The implication is that people are not frustrated with the system but government response to it. If government officials would only react in a more statesmanlike and pro-active way, people would be more forgiving of the political system and begin to back it again.

    In fact, many surveys show support for Congress stands around 10 percent, an incredible number for a representative democracy and one that signals enormous disaffection. Three-quarters of US citizens don’t trust the US government and some 90 percent don’t trust Congress”

  10. 2013 February 1 1:34 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    WEC, 9,

    What can we expect?

    Dims — They are a cabal of single interest voting groups. Greenies, Socialists, Feminists, Hollyweird. As a party there are not capable of a coherent policy prescript. Fact the only thing that holds the coalition together is the fact that the disparate parties do not have to fight for the same bucket of money. They just wait their turns in kind.

    Reps — A single interest, though it does have some splinter subs like the NRA. However the cabal in the GOP is along different lines. Have you noticed how the NRC chooses to fund? It follows for the most part along the lines of the battleground areas. The safe districts? The party endorses those candidates who can fund themselves. That’s why even though the party bosses endorsed Dewhurst they did not throw any big money in the right as Texas was already in the bag regardless of who won. That fosters the selection of individuals who are well heeled and unfortunately are detached from ordinary life.

    Now add in the rough and tumble of the primary system and the statesman has been rung out of most people by the time they reach the swearing in ceremony. We are the poorer for it.

  11. 2013 February 1 2:22 pm

  12. 2013 February 1 2:49 pm
    mulletover permalink

    Hate to pollute the thread, but this is a must see for bc and IP and DD.

    Dey big fans.

    This was five votes (minimum) for obama.

  13. 2013 February 1 2:55 pm

    7 – Forward!

  14. 2013 February 1 2:58 pm

  15. 2013 February 1 3:00 pm

    “Today Steven Chu, U.S. Secretary of Energy, released a letter indicating he won’t continue to hold the job for President Obama’s second term.”

    Wonder what level of crazy will replace him.

  16. 2013 February 1 3:09 pm
    mulletover permalink

    Regarding illegal immigration, North Carolina had 14 child rapes by illegal immigrants this month. Last year, we averaged eight per month.

    I can think of a solution, but I doubt it could get through the senate.

  17. 2013 February 1 4:00 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    …but majority will not do anything constructive about it. — KH

    Well not yet…. But gun shows are going balls to the walls, ammo is in short supply, and the dinner table talk is `when do we pull the trigger?`. At this point all we need is another Concord.

  18. 2013 February 1 4:21 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Well she was not quite bad as this — — and no crotch grab.

  19. 2013 February 1 4:49 pm
    justrand permalink

    drdog: “dinner table talk is `when do we pull the trigger?`. At this point all we need is another Concord.”

    I do believe it’s coming…the Obama Regime is getting infamous for over-reaching, and one of these days they will do so massively.

    Grandpappy told my pappy
    Back in my day, son
    A man had to answer
    For the wicked thing he done
    Take all the rope in Texas
    Find a tall oak tree
    Round up all of them bad boys
    And hang ’em high in the street
    For all the people to see

    And justice is the one thing
    You should always find
    You gotta saddle up your boys
    You gotta draw a hard line
    When the gun smoke settles
    We’ll sing a victory tune
    And we’ll all meet back
    At the local saloon

    We’ll raises up our glasses
    Against evil forces
    Singing, “Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses!”

  20. 2013 February 1 5:13 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Mullet #12 –

    3 of the 4 judges were black. OMG, she was so fugly! Her a$$ is as big as Mochelle’s and NO talent … absolutely NO talent.

  21. 2013 February 1 6:16 pm
    mulletover permalink


    No talent, but through to the next round.

    Name dropping wins.

  22. 2013 February 1 6:20 pm
    Mr Evilwrench permalink

    #12: Our 10 y/o came up while I was watching that and asked what was wrong with her. I was at a loss to explain. Three out of four, skewed demographics as always.

  23. 2013 February 1 6:46 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    You cannont make this crap up:

    “In a ridiculously simplistic propaganda video entitled “Options for Consideration,” DHS mentions recent mass shootings — all of which occurred in gun-free zones — and gives instructions on the best ways to cower in fear and hope you don’t get shot. The video description claims it “demonstrates possible actions to take if confronted with a (sic) active shooter scenario. The instructive video reviews the choices of evacuating, hiding, or, as an option of last resort, challenging the shooter.” The challenge makes no mention of pulling out your own personal protection firearm, but does suggest grabbing a pair of scissors.

    The ultimate irony is that at the end of the video, a group of law enforcement officers wielding personal defense weapons enter the workplace looking for the shooter. Anyone running out of the workplace with hands in the air is allowed to pass. Meanwhile, officers are going into office carrying the very weapons the gun grabbers want to deny lawful gun owners.

    The overall message of DHS is clear: Take no action beyond pretending to be a herd animal and hope law enforcement gets there before everyone in the building is dead or dying.”

  24. 2013 February 1 6:54 pm

    “when do we pull the trigger?” – I’ve been having those conversations since the 90’s. /sigh (Granted less people are looking at me like I’m nuts now during the conversation)

  25. 2013 February 1 8:47 pm

    “Steve Capus first showed up on our radar when a misleading edit of a 911 call broadcast on MSNBC portrayed the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman as racially motivated.”

  26. 2013 February 1 10:29 pm

    OTTAWA ,CANADA — The federal government is firming up its support of two projects that would see oil from Alberta piped to Atlantic Canada.

  27. 2013 February 1 10:29 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    (Granted less people are looking at me like I’m nuts now during the conversation)

    Soon KH, they will be looking to you, cellphone in hand asking — “Now?”

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