Its All About the M-O-N-E-Y

2016 January 27
by drdog09

CNN will carry the Trump wounded warriors event —

CNN has announced that they will air Trump’s rally that he is holding live opposite the Fox News Debate in a bit of a shameless ratings play. The thinking here is that this might cut into Fox News ratings, but let’s be honest: the people who were only tuning in to watch Trump were not going to watch tomorrow night anyway. The fact that he will be on CNN will not really change that equation.

However, if you are the sort of person who finds Trump’s stream-of-mostly-erroneous-consciousness to be entertaining for 2 hours at a time, then CNN has got some alternate entertainment planned for you.

None of this will change the calculus of how this will play in Iowa, however. Trump’s most loyal supporters will of course say that whatever Trump does is the right thing because Trump did it. However, not everyone who was potentially planning to vote for Trump is a die hard Trump supporter; Trump has fence-sitters in his camp just like every other candidate. And Iowans have grown accustomed to their pecking order in the national discourse, and guard it jealously.

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That did not take long. Any bets on share?

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  1. 2016 January 27 6:37 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    I tell ya the Pressitutes will sell their mother for 10pts.

    I also hear that Murdoch keeps getting voicemail when he calls Trump. Beg you MFer.

  2. 2016 January 27 7:04 pm
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    justrand permalink

    Love the term: : “Pressitutes” …fits PERFECTLY!

  3. 2016 January 27 7:07 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    O’Reily bloviates but it looks like a beg to me — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBjoe5Frz6Q — Drudge lede

  4. 2016 January 27 7:18 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Murdoch is trying to talk Michael Bloomberg into running as an independent if Hillary fails to get the Democratic nomination.

  5. 2016 January 27 7:23 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    BC, I thought M ‘2-32oz’ Bloomberg announced he would not run?

  6. 2016 January 27 7:55 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    He did, but Murdoch is still trying to talk him into it, from what I read earlier today.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/rupert-murdoch-michael-bloomberg-2016-run-218281

  7. 2016 January 27 9:40 pm
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    sorry guys I just have to say it.

    Trump is his name, snake oil is his game,
    A flim flam man seeking his fame,
    A stirrer of passions ever so keen,
    A lifelong liberal behind the scene,
    Conning the masses with populous bullshit,
    He has all the charm of a muzzi armpit,
    Using the persona of a gold plated dog turd,
    He counts on the gullibility of the unwashed herd,
    peel away the crap from this charlatan,
    You will find a genuine dime store harlequin.

  8. 2016 January 27 9:58 pm
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    Any bets on share?

    IDK, but I wouldn’t click a redstate link if you paid me.

    #1: I think that was Roger who’s been banished to voice mail.

    #3: Yeah wtf was that… please please please be Christian and re-consider…when Bill knows he’s already all-in for his other event. wtf was that?

    #4: That’s cause he’s supporting Hilda, plus I mean come on I’m sure he wants that Bloomberg ad revenue in addition to Bloomberg policy.

  9. 2016 January 28 4:57 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    IP, I’ll concede every point in your limerick. Its true. but…..lets look at how the landscape is developing.

    * Good chance that Sanders might be the Dims champion, the communist.
    * Cruz, who would be my number 2 pick, smart as he is might get rolled by those mud throwers in DC.
    * Rubio would sell us down immigration river.
    * Paul has a foreign policy plank that will get this country killed.

    All our options stink.

  10. 2016 January 28 7:19 am
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    ~~~~~To high heaven. Once again, we get to choose between the bunghole and the armpit.

  11. 2016 January 28 7:36 am
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    justrand permalink

    IMHO…

    Cruz is still my favorite…despite all the known downsides and previous positions
    Trump is my 2nd favorite…despite him being a prick
    Rubio is my 3rd…despite disagreeing with him on many many issues (but at least he’s not a prick)

    All 3 would or could get my vote ONLY because they could beat Clinton or the Biden/Warren team warming up in the bullpen.

    NONE of the other GOP candidates can win…period.

  12. 2016 January 28 7:37 am
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    justrand permalink

    and yes…I know all the VERY big flip-flop type positions of each of those three. But at least none of ’em is named “Romney” or McCain” 🙂

  13. 2016 January 28 8:19 am
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    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/sanders-campaign-suspicious-corporate-influence-iowa-caucus

    Did not know that MS was involved.

    re:9 – I think Bernie’s chances are low of being the actual nominee (cause even if hilda get’s referred then I think they snatch if from him). Biden\Warren… that would be a real problem, a uniting ticket for libs, no matter who the hell the gop runs, even pretty boy, country really is that far gone, would need events to happen that would play to gop nom’s favor. Oh and I have Paul instead of Rubio on my list 3rd, warts and all, there is no fourth, not expecting much out of 1-3.

    One hell of an entertaining and illuminating primary season thus far though, masks dropping left, right and center.

  14. 2016 January 28 8:21 am
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    drdog09 permalink

  15. 2016 January 28 8:29 am
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    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 #9

    Agree 100%. As most of you know, immigration is issue #1 – #100 with me. Legal immigration (depending on who is coming here) can be almost as great a danger to the future of the country as illegal immigration. Currently 85% of the legal immigrants are coming from places where immigrants vote overwhelmingly Democratic.

    In addition to voting patterns, studies indicate that immigrants (both legal and illegal) are more likely to be on welfare than native born (and the blacks included in native born swell that number).

    Cruz is strong on immigration and has proposed doubling legal immigration with the biggest increases going to Mexico, India and China.

    I’m tired hearing “our country was built by immigrants” crap. We need a ten year moratorium on ALL immigration.

  16. 2016 January 28 8:39 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Every generation needs a new revolution. — Thomas Jefferson

    We are long over due.

  17. 2016 January 28 8:55 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Wesley Clark calls for YOU to be placed in an internment camp — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaPwqokBn9M

  18. 2016 January 28 9:01 am
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    bc3b permalink

    The female Muslim activist appearing on tonight’s GOP debates is a Bernie Sanders fan:

    http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/fox-chose-muslim-bernie-sanders-supporter-to-trip-trump/

    Do you really think FNC is any different than CNN?

  19. 2016 January 28 9:31 am
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    bc3b permalink

    Chinese national pleads guilty to sealing ag secrets. Got into US on H-1B visa:

    http://kwqc.com/2016/01/28/chinese-national-pleads-guilty-to-stealing-trade-secrets-from-the-u-s-agricultural-companies/

  20. 2016 January 28 10:36 am
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    15 – Very very interesting, so they were fully planning on trying to play games at the convention.

  21. 2016 January 28 11:33 am
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    bc3b permalink

    #15 & #21 –

    Yet they had Trump take a loyalty oath.

  22. 2016 January 28 11:38 am
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    FYI the donation site is up.
    http://www.donaldtrumpforvets.com/

    Also, Huckabee has announced he will be attending the event after the undercard.

  23. 2016 January 28 11:45 am
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    bc3b permalink

  24. 2016 January 28 12:00 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Rupert Murdoch in WSJ Op-Ed: Immigration Reform Can’t Wait. Immigrants Improve Our Culture. Increase H-1B Visas.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/murdoch-immigration-reform-oped/2014/06/19/id/577968/

  25. 2016 January 28 12:22 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Obama Administration Resettles Syrian Refugees Under Cloak of Secrecy:

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/28/texas-ag-obama-admin-resettled-syrians-under-cloak-of-secrecy/

    Texans, pay attention.

  26. 2016 January 28 12:22 pm
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    26 – and knocks Trump for “following Session’s lead”, grrr Sessions seems to be the only one not losing his mind.

    Phuck these people.

  27. 2016 January 28 12:37 pm
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    27 – Not the first time either.

    BTW I think Rush is losing his mind… he basically just said Trump could be showing up on fnc tonight and that they’re probably still negotiating and this is some smokescreen. I mean if this was 4-5 days from the debate I could understand that theory, but it’s not.

  28. 2016 January 28 1:02 pm
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    lol – last 15 seconds of show… re:above “you know what, I’m an idiot, forget I said it.”

  29. 2016 January 28 1:05 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    The Clinton flame squashed? — http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3420932/Chelsea-Clinton-s-fundraising-FLOP-Soul-Cycle-event-raise-money-Hillary-bust-2700-seats-offered-just-50-bikes.html — Fruit-of-the-Loins fundraiser flops.

    Pretty much anyone who is anybody has figured out that they are a bunch of Razorback grifters.

  30. 2016 January 28 1:14 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    KH #29 –

    I agree. For Trump to show up on the same stage as Megyn Kelly tonight would be total capitulation.

    Besides Trump has his hall rented, RSVPs back, Santorum and Huckabee have committed and they are even setting up monitors for the overflow they are expecting. CNN and CSPAN will be telecasting.

    Trump has beaten Murdoch, Ailes and Kelly at their own game. Why should he concede?

  31. 2016 January 28 1:27 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Trump for Veterans Page Is Online:

    https://www.donaldtrumpforvets.com/

    It’s a little late to pull out.

  32. 2016 January 28 1:31 pm
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    justrand permalink

  33. 2016 January 28 2:55 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    The magnitude of the drop in oil prices and its effect on Texas:

    http://fuelfix.com/blog/2016/01/28/baker-hughes-loses-1-billion-in-the-fourth-quarter/#36089101=0

  34. 2016 January 28 3:48 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    34,

    Whittle is right. But first I want to see the GOPe raise the white flag and acknowledge the base cannot be ignored. If they don’t do that then they will just revert back to the old form and stab us in the back in 2020. THEN we can be friends again.

    BUT NOT UNTIL.

  35. 2016 January 28 4:29 pm
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  36. 2016 January 28 4:29 pm
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    justrand permalink

    I agree, drdog.

    I’m not a Republican anymore…but if I was then it would be just like being a 49’er fan.

    Because the GOP of today is to the 49ers, as Jeb Bush is to Joe Montana.

    When Joe Montana won 3 of his 4 Super Bowls Ronald Reagan was President, and the GOP stood (once again) for something.
    But today the GOP is crap…and the 49ers are too!

  37. 2016 January 28 4:34 pm
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    37 – I don’t want to be friends with them anymore, invites nothing but abuse.

  38. 2016 January 28 5:00 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Here’s hoping….

  39. 2016 January 28 5:17 pm
    [42]
    justrand permalink

    #41…PERFECT!

  40. 2016 January 28 5:49 pm
    [43]

    Rome Covers Up Nude Statues For Visit of Iranian Mullah

    Take that as a definitive sign.

  41. 2016 January 28 6:08 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    CNN reports Trump has arrived at the rally, dispelling rumors that he will be at the debate.

    Going to the debate would have been the dumbest thing he could have done considering: 1) the publicity he is getting for pawning FNC and 2) the most recent Iowa polls which show his lead growing.

    It will be interesting to see how CNN’s ratings are versus FNC’s tonight. If Trump is wise, he will make tonight entirely about veterans and the government’s poor treatment of them. He can make this a third major point in his campaign along with immigration and Islamic terrorism.

  42. 2016 January 28 6:12 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Please have a full gallon of eye bleach before clicking — http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-28/new-wold-odour — I am not responsible for any blindness caused by sharp objects, eye gouging, acid reflux, etc….

  43. 2016 January 28 6:14 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    46,

    Heck, he could start this as a yearly thing ala Jerry Lewis. Would complement his ego and do some good.

  44. 2016 January 28 6:20 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 –

    Heck, he could start this as a yearly thing ala Jerry Lewis. Would complement his ego and do some good.

    That wouldn’t surprise me at all. Just as Trump has been an “out of the box” candidate, I expect he would be an “out of the box” President;

  45. 2016 January 28 7:11 pm
    [50]

    Trump confirms with CNN as late as this afternoon they were calling to apologize and still get him to do it. Said while he could accept their apology for being unprofessional in their press release he told them that he’s be going ahead as scheduled with his own event. Icahn just pledged 500k, Trump 1 million (not reflected in website totals).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PMynb62GRk&feature=youtu.be

    One of many live feeds btw. Huckabee arrived about 30m ago, they did some basic pre-game from 8:20-8:40. Honor guard, pledge, national anthem, diamond and silk, and some basic house keeping about reminding people to get to caucus on monday and vote etc. Interlude atm.

  46. 2016 January 28 7:20 pm
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    Trump on.

  47. 2016 January 28 7:22 pm
    [52]

    5mil raised so far + what ever the website is up too. (about 500k last i checked)

  48. 2016 January 28 7:59 pm
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    JBoz permalink

    By participating in Trump’s even tonight, Santorum and Huckabee have just acknowledged that he is without a doubt the GOP nominee, and the likely next POTUS. They have come to grips what the GOPe still hasn’t…that there has been a sea change. The GOP is blowing up, and the DEMS aren’t in great shape either…so something will rise out of the ashes, and Santorum and Huckabee are demonstrating that they know what is to come, and they want to be in the game.

  49. 2016 January 28 8:17 pm
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    The Ghost of Reason permalink

    Any idea on when the debate viewership numbers will come in?

  50. 2016 January 28 8:45 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Ghost #54

    Probably early tomorrow morning.

  51. 2016 January 28 8:46 pm
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    54 – No idea… but I was just watching cspan post Donald coverage…before the moved over the the Paul event, and I know it’s cpsan cat people… but 12 callers so far half of them dem, 2 or 3 from ia, ALL calling in with support saying their voting Trump, all said this was better than watching debate ( a couple had switched over from boring debate), a few of them were not sure about Trump prior to the event. I found that interesting in the context of the fall and potential x\overs.

  52. 2016 January 28 9:30 pm
    [57]

    Tonight was the ‘save Bush’ debate. Trump was wise to skip it.

    Video trying to diminish Marco and Ted…..softballs all night for Jeb. Anyone that thinks Fox is not in with the Elitist crowd is a fool. And the Youtube selections seemed like something Dems would pick out.

    The audience, like the last debate, was stacked elitist…..but even they were bored.

    When Kasich/Christie/Paul drop out they will all support Jeb……as will McVain right before SC.

    I would vote for any of Trump, Marco or Ted……..Carson is not viable……the others are all establishment….establishment Rs want to lose this election……Trump may be the Godsend to stop that.

    I hope all my pals here are doing well.

  53. 2016 January 28 9:43 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    I think FNC may have been the biggest loser tonight in terms of the moderators (who as brucefdb pointed out, are very biased) and the audience. We will see when the ratings come out tomorrow.

    If Kasich does reasonably well in New Hampshire (the polls indicate he is picking up there and only there), he may be in through Florida.

  54. 2016 January 29 7:35 am
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    justrand permalink

    brucefdb: “Tonight was the ‘save Bush’ debate. Trump was wise to skip it.

    Video trying to diminish Marco and Ted…..softballs all night for Jeb. … And the Youtube selections seemed like something Dems would pick out.

    Exactly! Those YouTube videos…aimed ONLY Marco and Ted…were intended to knee-cap those two in favor of Jeb. I have no problem with candidates having to explain their comments. But when only TWO have to do so…and have 60 seconds to explain 2 minutes of video…it is pretty obvious what the intent was.

    And then having a BERNIE SANDERS activist ask questions? Nice, FoxNews…real nice.

  55. 2016 January 29 7:46 am
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    bc3b permalink

    More than any other network, FNC has shown bias toward particular candidates. C NN tries to trash all Republicans and does so less indiscriminately.

    A good debate moderator is like a good baseball umpire or hockey referee. It’s not about they. The players, not the officials, should determine the outcome of the game. The same is true of debate moderators.

    The FNC moderators want to be the stars of the debate and pick winners and losers. Perhaps they are getting direction from Ailes and Murdoch, who is a strong amnesty/increased immigration advocate.

    Saying FNC isn’t as bad as CNN or the “alphabet networks” is like holding your nose and voting for a liberal Republican As long as conservatives keep giving FNC ratings and profits, it will only get gorse, especially with Murdoch’s very liberal sons taking greater control.

    Trump was wise to stay away. With him absent, the other nominees and the moderators went after Cruz.

  56. 2016 January 29 7:52 am
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    bc3b permalink

    If Megyn Kelly would have blinked her eyes several times in rapid succession, she might have become airborne.

  57. 2016 January 29 8:26 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Unrelated and just fell into my inbox…..
    ———————————————————
    (Rep, Dem & Ind ALL need to read this to the end with an open mind!……..This guy picks on them all & rightfully so.)

    The author is the political correspondent for Bloomberg and
    wrote extensively about Obama even before he was elected and he did it with facts and more facts.
    “Who is Donald Trump?”
    The better question may be, “What is Donald Trump?” The answer: A giant middle finger from average Americans to the political and media establishment.
    Some Trump supporters are like the 60s white girls who dated black guys just to annoy their parents. But most Trump supporters have simply had it with the Demosocialists and the “Republicans in Name Only.” They know there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between Hillary Rodham and Jeb Bush, and only a few cents worth between Rodham and the other GOP candidates.
    Ben Carson is not an “establishment” candidate, but the Clinton machine would pulverize Carson, and the somewhat rebellious Ted Cruz will (justifiably so) be tied up with natural born citizen lawsuits (as might Marco Rubio). The Trump supporters figure they may as well have some fun tossing Molotov cocktails at Wall Street and Georgetown while they watch the nation collapse.
    Besides, lightning might strike, Trump might get elected, and he might actually fix a few things.
    Stranger things have happened. (The nation elected a Marxist in 2008 and Bruce Jenner now wears designer dresses.)
    Millions of conservatives are justifiably furious. They gave the Republicans control of the House in 2010 and control of the Senate in 2014 and have seen them govern no differently than Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Yet those same voters are supposed to trust the GOP in 2016? Why?
    Trump did not come from out of nowhere. His candidacy was created by the last six years of Republican failures.
    No reasonable person can believe that any of the establishment candidates will slash federal spending, rein in the Federal Reserve, cut burdensome business regulations, reform the tax code, or eliminate useless federal departments (the Departments of Education, Housing and Urban Development, Energy, etc.). Even Ronald Reagan was unable to eliminate the Department of Education. (Of course, getting shot at tends to make a person less of a risk-taker.)
    No reasonable person can believe that any of the nation’s major problems will be solved by Rodham, Bush, and the other dishers of donkey fazoo now eagerly eating corn in Iowa and pancakes in New Hampshire.
    Many Americans, and especially Trump supporters, have had it with:
    Anyone named Bush
    Anyone named Clinton
    Anyone who’s held political office
    Political correctness
    Illegal immigration
    Massive unemployment
    Phony “official” unemployment and inflation figures
    Welfare waste and fraud
    People faking disabilities to go on the dole
    VA waiting lists
    TSA airport groping
    ObamaCare
    The Federal Reserve’s money-printing schemes
    Wall Street crooks like Jon Corzine
    Michelle Obama’s vacations
    Michelle Obama’s food police
    Barack Obama’s golf
    Barack Obama’s arrogant and condescending lectures
    Barack Obama’s criticism/hatred of America
    Valerie Jarrett
    “Holiday trees”
    Hollywood hypocrites
    Global warming nonsense
    Cop killers
    Gun confiscation threats
    Stagnant wages
    Chevy Volts
    Clock boy
    Pajama boy
    Mattress girl
    Boys in girls’ bathrooms
    Whiny, spoiled college students who can’t even place the Civil War in the correct century
    . . .and that’s just the short list.
    Trump supporters believe that no Democrat wants to address these issues, and that few Republicans have the courage to address these issues. They certainly know that none of the establishment candidates are better than barely listening to them, and Trump is their way of saying, “Screw you, Hillary Rodham Rove Bush!” The more the talking head political pundits insult the Trump supporters, the more supporters he gains.
    (The only pundits who seem to understand what is going on are Democrats Doug Schoen and Pat Caddell and Republican John LeBoutillier. All the others argue that the voters will eventually “come to their senses” and support an establishment
    candidate.)
    But America does not need a tune-up at the same old garage. It needs a new engine installed by experts–and neither Rodham nor Bush are mechanics with the skills or experience to install it.
    Hillary Rodham is not a mechanic; she merely manages a garage her philandering husband abandoned. Jeb Bush is not a mechanic; he merely inherited a garage. Granted, Trump is also not a mechanic, but he knows where to find the best ones to work in his garage. He won’t hire his brother-in-law or someone to whom he owes a favor; he will hire someone who lives and breathes cars.
    “How dare they revolt!” the “elites” are bellowing. Well, the citizens are daring to revolt, and the RINOs had better get used to it. “But Trump will hand the election to Clinton!” That is what the Karl Rove-types want people to believe, just as the leftist media eagerly shoved “Maverick” McCain down GOP throats in 2008–knowing he would lose to Obama.
    But even if Trump loses and Rodham wins, she would not be dramatically different than Bush or most of his fellow candidates. They would be nothing more than caretakers, not working to restore America’s greatness but merely presiding over the collapse of a massively in-debt nation.
    A nation can perhaps survive open borders; a nation can perhaps survive a generous welfare system. But no nation can survive both–and there is little evidence that the establishment candidates of either party understand that. The United States cannot forever continue on the path it is on. At some point it will be destroyed by its debt.
    Yes, Trump speaks like a bull wanders through a china shop, but the truth is that the borders do need to be sealed; we cannot afford to feed, house, and clothe 200,000 Syrian immigrants for decades (even if we get inordinately lucky and none of them are ISIS infiltrators or Syed Farook wannabes); the world is at war with radical Islamists; all the world’s glaciers are not melting; and Rosie O’Donnell is a fat pig.
    Is Trump the perfect candidate? Of course not. Neither was Ronald Reagan. But unless we close our borders and restrict immigration, all the other issues are irrelevant. One terrorist blowing up a bridge or a tunnel could kill thousands. One jihadist poisoning a city’s water supply could kill tens of thousands. One electromagnetic pulse attack from a single Iranian nuclear device could kill tens of millions. Faced with those possibilities, most Americans probably don’t care that Trump relied on eminent domain to grab up a final quarter acre of property for a hotel, or that he boils the blood of the Muslim Brotherhood thugs running the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
    While Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s greatest fear is someone giving a Muslim a dirty look, most Americans are more worried about being gunned down at a shopping mall by a crazed lunatic who treats his prayer mat better than his three wives and who thinks 72 virgins are waiting for him in paradise.
    The establishment is frightened to death that Trump will win, but not because they believe he will harm the nation. They are afraid he will upset their taxpayer-subsidized apple carts. While Obama threatens to veto legislation that spends too little, they worry that Trump will veto legislation that spends too much.
    You can be certain that if an establishment candidate wins in November 2016,
    his or her cabinet positions will be filled with the same people we’ve seen before. The washed-up has-beens of the Clinton and Bush administrations will be back in charge. The hacks from Goldman Sachs will continue to call the shots. Whether it is Bush’s Karl Rove or Clinton’s John Podesta who makes the decisions in the White House will matter little. If the establishment wins, America loses.
    Don Fredrick
    December 10, 2015

  58. 2016 January 29 11:36 am
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    “More than any other network, FNC has shown bias toward particular candidates. C NN tries to trash all Republicans and does so less indiscriminately.”

    Yeah even those horrible fucks at CNBC… while they did focus on some, they were horrible to EVERYONE at least. lol

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