Is Islam Compatible with Western Civilization?

2016 June 15
by bc3b

In his speech on national security yesterday Donald Trump went where few politicians have the courage to go. He identified radical Islam as the source of terrorism in the United States and around the world. He called for an end to immigration from countries where radical Islam is present, more  surveillance of Islamic extremists in the United States and challenged Muslims to report suspicious actions by possible terrorists.

Trump attacked political correctness as no one else would, but did he go far enough?

Is the problem radical Islam or Islam itself?

Name another religion in the 21st century:

  • Whose adherents want to dominate the world
  • That considers itself  dominant over other religions
  • That is responsible for 99% of the terrorism in the world
  • That tried to kill members who wish to leave the religion
  • That preaches the killing of homosexuals
  • That treats women as second class, segregates them in religious services, stones them if they are raped and wants them to dress like refugees from the 7th century
  • Is a total system complete with its own laws (sharia) which many/most of its members want to replace laws of the countries they immigrate to
  • Has rules (lending, segregated swimming, etc.) that run counter to the rest of the world

Exit questions:

  1. Can Islam ever be compatible with western civilization?
  2. Can you think of any other religions that are incompatible with western civilization

 

25 Responses leave one →
  1. 2016 June 15 6:45 am
    [1]
    drdog09 permalink

    Shooter called TV station while in the act — https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/15/im-the-shooter-its-me-gunman-called-local-tv-station-during-attack-station-says/?postshare=2221465990860781&tid=ss_tw — “I did it for Islam”. Pretty damn clear to me where his thoughts were.

  2. 2016 June 15 6:48 am
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    mulletover permalink

    And London, a great western city elected one of these fanatics as mayor. True to form, he immediately began pushing his religion on to his constituents.

    Of course, we’ve had obama for seven years.

  3. 2016 June 15 6:51 am
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    drdog09 permalink

  4. 2016 June 15 7:19 am
    [4]
    TLS permalink

    NO. Islam is a form of gov’t that includes state regulated religion. A dictatorship is not compatible with a free society.

  5. 2016 June 15 7:58 am
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    bc3b permalink

    Actually Islam was developed by Mohammad to justify his lifestyle as a pedophile warlord. Looking at the number of followers it has today, he has to be the greatest con man in the history of the world.

  6. 2016 June 15 8:01 am
    [6]
    bc3b permalink

    Wilders: Ramadan deadliest time of the year. Time to stop Muslim immigration:

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/15/geert-wilders-orlando-paris-ramadan-deadliest-time-year/

  7. 2016 June 15 8:40 am
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    justrand permalink

    Islam is an ideology masquerading as a “religion”. It was, as bc3b notes, partly crafted to ” justify Mohamed’s lifestyle as a pedophile warlord”.

    But it was ALSO crafted as a means to unify people in the name of conquest! Those people felt oppressed and needed a unifying ideology. As a result they set about conquering and oppressing others…Islam just let them feel GOOD about it.

    And the adherents today are either gung-ho for that…or are too scared to oppose it.

    Islam is NOT the religion of peace. PERIOD!

  8. 2016 June 15 8:44 am
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    bc3b permalink

    Today evaluating the value immigrant groups bring is considered racissst and bigoted:
    * Will they make a positive contribution or be a drain?
    * Can they provide their own support or will they be on welfare?
    * How likely are they to assimilate?
    * Do they represent a danger to national security?
    * Do they want to fundamentally change our legal system?
    * How willing are they to accept people and ideas that are diametrically opposed to their beliefs?

  9. 2016 June 15 9:06 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    8,

    Surprisingly other than your last two bullets all the specs are codified into the current INA. But as usual the Left has perverted the letter of the law to their own ends. To paraphrase that famous line in the Prince Bride — “You keep using that Law. I do not think it does what you think it does.”

  10. 2016 June 15 9:20 am
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    JBoz permalink

    Change the wording in Bullet Point 2 of post #8 to “Can they provide their own support or will they rely on government?”

    Then apply those points to the current resident of the White House.

    I’m coming up with 0/6.

  11. 2016 June 15 9:21 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    Orlando Massacre was not a lone wolf attack. Witness says there might have been as many as 5 individuals involved — http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-15/new-orlando-shooter-eyewitness-emergestestifies-5-people-were-involved-pulse-attack

  12. 2016 June 15 9:34 am
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    drdog09 permalink

    A modest proposal if I may.

    A fed judge just needs to declare ISIS a criminal enterprise and assailable under RICO. Then let the American lawyers loose on them. I give ISIS 5 years tops to survive.

  13. 2016 June 15 10:24 am
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    Before the destruction of the Catholic faith by the Modernists via Vatican II the essential article on Islam was (or rather, on Mohammed and Mohammedanism) for Catholics was written by the great Mesopotamian-born American scholar and Chaldean Catholic priest, Fr. Gabriel Oussani, born in Baghdad and raised in Mosul, both capitals of the respective Turkish Vilayets of Baghdad and Mosul, which, together with the Vilayet of Basra, would become the new Kingdom of Iraq after the Great War.

    This soberly written brief article gives you an overview and understanding of Islam that is as fair to Mohammed as you will find…….but this education is worth the short time it will take you to read.

    The concluding paragraph is devastatingly clear:

    In matters political Islam is a system of despotism at home and of aggression abroad. The Prophet commanded absolute submission to the imam. In no case was the sword to be raised against him. The rights of non-Moslem subjects are of the vaguest and most limited kind, and a religious war is a sacred duty whenever there is a chance of success against the “Infidel”. Medieval and modern Mohammedan, especially Turkish, persecutions of both Jews and Christians are perhaps the best illustration of this fanatical religious and political spirit.

    Again, if you like to know for yourself, take a few minutes to expand your knowledge (this was written in the early 20th century, over 100 years ago) of this fraud posing as religion:

    http://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/mohammed-and-mohammedanism

    My original source for this info is a website named Rorate Caeli.

  14. 2016 June 15 10:53 am
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    bc3b permalink

    brucefdb –

    I think I am Michigan Conservative (who has been MIA lately) and I are the only other Catholics at BJG.

    Not only Francis, but also th bishops, seem to be out of touch with rank-and-file Catholics (much like the GOP leadership).

    I don’t know if you saw this, but the Bishop of St. Petersburg basically laid the blame of the Orlando massacre at the feet of Catholics because we are not more accepting of gays.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/notorious-catholic-bishop-after-orlando-shooting-religion-including-our-own

  15. 2016 June 15 11:04 am
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    “laid the blame of the Orlando massacre at the feet of Catholics because we are not more accepting of gays.”

    Non sequitur bravo sierra. The shooter was a muzz who couldn’t care less what the catholics think.

  16. 2016 June 15 11:17 am
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    Oh yeah, bc3b, fully aware….just to be clear the article is about Islam and is educational. It is not about Catholicism at all.

    It bugs me that it is soooo easy to educate yourself and most people refuse to do it.

  17. 2016 June 15 11:36 am
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    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/06/islamic-refugee-gas-pipeline-plans-arrested-new-mexico-border-county/

    ^^ Totally not something to worry about right? I mean every illegal border crosser islamic refugee, with no documentation what so ever, carries plans for the local gas pipelines with them… everyone knows that!

  18. 2016 June 15 11:39 am
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    fight on permalink

    I know its Hot air a Trump hating site. But look at the second box.
    If 62% of Americans don’t believe we need to stop the Muzzies, then we are going to get what we deserve. The PC sheeple will be the start of CWII.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/15/poll-25-approve-of-trumps-response-to-orlando-massacre-51-disapprove/

    WBF

  19. 2016 June 15 11:58 am
    [20]
    drdog09 permalink

    Symmetry its what’s for politics —

  20. 2016 June 15 12:06 pm
    [21]

    report: McTurtle to cave on guns.

    wooo hooo woo hooo go republicans!!! * raises pom pom* /s

  21. 2016 June 15 12:09 pm
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    19 – That’s cool then… when they come I’ll point them at the left first, saying hey those are ones supporting the gays and the women, you really need to focus there first, come for me when you’re done with them. Then after they’ve cleaned up that mess, we counter attack, if we do win, we’ve solved both problems. 😉

  22. 2016 June 15 12:14 pm
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    justrand permalink

    Thee dangerous naïveté of the Left is infecting the entire nation. And to even TRY to discuss any issue that is contrary to the national Groupthink is to be scorned or pitied.

    I’ll have a post on this later this week. I’m too pissed to write about it now.

  23. 2016 June 15 1:31 pm
    [24]
    drdog09 permalink

    FBI’s facial recognition system online — http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/15/11946304/fbi-facial-recognition-system-data-collection-privacy — You ARE in it.

  24. 2016 June 15 2:48 pm
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    24 – I’m gonna self-identify as devout Muslim women next fall when I go for my DL renewal… dressed in full to match with just my eyes showing… let’s see how that goes. Would make for a fun case when they deny me.

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