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2016 November 13

Трамп будет президентом. Существует причина для этого называемых выборщиков.

Первое, что нужно понимать, что государства являются создателем федерального правительства и до сих пор его владелец. Правда, даже если он не может показаться, что путь сегодня. Второе, что нужно иметь в виду, что двести пятьдесят лет назад путешествие было трудно. Это имело смысл, чтобы представители государства переносить результаты голосования государств. Эти представители называются выборщиков. Фактический текст – http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/2/essays/80/electoral-college

Был один больше, причина того, что у США есть выборщиков. Лидеры боялись Mob. Не мафией, но мобы, как мы видим на улицах сегодня. Они боялись, что кто-то, как Трампа, но гораздо хуже, может выиграть подавляющее народное голосование в горстке государств в то время как остальная часть страны возражали против этого результата. В соответствии с проектом потенциальный президент должен выиграть большинство голосов выборщиков Штатов рассчитывать не всенародного голосования. Выборщиков также последнее усилие канаву, чтобы предотвратить тиран она должна быть обнаружено, что там было массовое мошенничество голосования. Избиратели в этом году встретятся 19 декабря, чтобы бросить их государствам избирательный бюллетень.

Это может показаться несправедливым, что кандидат может выиграть всенародного голосования, а не президентское кресло. Это не происходит слишком часто и когда это делает популярным разница голосование очень мала. Но те, кто баллотироваться на пост президента знают эти правила, идущие в и они корректировать свою агитацию, чтобы за него. Представьте себе, если бы не было выборщиков. Кандидаты будут сосредоточены исключительно на следующих государств – Калифорния, Техас, Флорида, Нью-Йорк, Иллинойс, Пенсильвания и Огайо. Таковы семь самых густонаселенных Штаты и было бы достаточно, чтобы выиграть голоса избирателей. Все другие государства затем будут проигнорированы.

========= English =========
Trump will be President. There is a reason for that called Electors.

The first thing to realize is that States were the creator of the Federal government and still its owner. True even though it may not appear that way today. The second thing to keep in mind was that two hundred and fifty years ago travel was hard. It made sense to have state representatives carry forward the results of the States vote. These representatives are called Electors. The actual text is — http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/2/essays/80/electoral-college

There was one larger reason that the US has an electoral college. The leaders feared a Mob. Not mafia, but mobs like we see in the streets today. They feared that someone like a Trump but much worse might win an overwhelming popular vote in a handful of States while the rest of the country objected to that result. By design a potential President must win a majority of the States electoral vote count not the popular vote. The electoral college is also a last ditch effort to prevent a tyrant should it be discovered that there was massive voting fraud. Electors this year will meet on December 19th to cast their States ballot.

It may sound unfair that a candidate can win the popular vote but not the presidency. It does not happen too often and when it does the popular vote difference is very small. But those who run for the presidency know these rules going in and they adjust their campaigning to allow for it. Imagine if there was no electoral college. Candidates would focus entirely on the following States — California, Texas, Florida, New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. Those are the seven most populated States and would be sufficient to win a popular vote. All the other States would then be ignored.

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  1. 2016 November 13 1:41 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    For the benefit of some Russian friends.

    I apologize for the poor translation.

  2. 2016 November 13 3:05 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    A recent benefit of the electoral college is that it’s a check against states with huge numbers of non-citizens (aka illegal aliens), lax voting requirements and that actually encourage them to vote. Yes, I am talking about Kalifornia.

    Kalifornia has 55 electoral votes, no matter how many illegal aliens are allowed to vote.

  3. 2016 November 13 3:33 pm
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    justrand permalink

    from a FaceBook friend of mine:

    Today the mail brings . . .

    News Update from Canada

    The flood of Trump-fearing American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week. The Republican presidential campaign is prompting an exodus among left-leaning Americans who fear they’ll soon be required to hunt, pray, pay taxes, and live according to the Constitution.

    Canadian border residents say it’s not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, liberal arts majors, global-warming activists, and “green” energy proponents crossing their fields at night.

    “I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn,” said southern Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota. “He was cold, exhausted and hungry, and begged me for a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn’t have any, he left before I even got a chance to show him my screenplay, eh?”

    In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. He then installed loudspeakers that blared Rush Limbaugh across the fields, but they just stuck their fingers in their ears and kept coming. Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals just south of the border, pack them into electric cars, and drive them across the border, where they are simply left to fend for themselves after the battery dies.

    “A lot of these people are not prepared for our rugged conditions,” an Alberta border patrolman said. “I found one carload without a single bottle of Perrier water, or any gemelli with shrimp and arugula. All they had was a nice little Napa Valley cabernet and some kale chips. When liberals are caught, they’re sent back across the border, often wailing that they fear persecution from Trump high-hairers.

    Rumors are circulating about plans being made to build re-education camps where liberals will be forced to drink domestic beer, study the Constitution, and find jobs that actually contribute to the economy.

    In recent days, liberals have turned to ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have been disguised as senior citizens taking a bus trip to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans in blue-hair wig disguises, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior citizens about Perry Como and Rosemary Clooney to prove that they were alive in the ’50s.

    “If they can’t identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we become very suspicious about their age,” an official said.

    Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage, are buying up all the Barbara Streisand CD’s, and are overloading the internet while downloading jazzercise apps to their cell phones.

    “I really feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can’t support them,” an Ottawa resident said. “After all, how many art-history majors does one country need?

  4. 2016 November 13 3:49 pm
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    fight on permalink

    I will be curious about tonights NFL game ratings. A marquee match up, a rematch of super bowl 49. Seattle vs NE. Military appreciation week. Election over.

    If the ratings tank which I hope they do, what will the spin be?

  5. 2016 November 13 3:55 pm
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    President Paul permalink

    I thought Brady and Belicheck were Trump endorses though (surreptitiously ones)

  6. 2016 November 13 3:58 pm
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    President Paul permalink

  7. 2016 November 13 4:19 pm
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    justrand permalink

    I watched a few minutes of those pathetic losers at TYT in that video…yup, they’re PATHETIC LOSERS!

  8. 2016 November 13 4:19 pm
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    post 7 my schadenfreud runith over

  9. 2016 November 13 4:25 pm
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    President Paul permalink

    Ya idk what ppl did before there was internet. Such histrionics must have gone unnoticed.

  10. 2016 November 13 4:25 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    7, Yeah I posted it on the other thread. But hey, more the merrier.
    4, I am passing that one around…..

  11. 2016 November 13 4:26 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Bill Still about stealing the EC — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKQO_XW_LFE

  12. 2016 November 13 4:30 pm
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    President Paul permalink

  13. 2016 November 13 4:38 pm
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    President Paul permalink

    “Bill Still about stealing the EC — ”

    Doubt that would matter much at this point. Every appointment, judge, etc would be blocked. Would be lame duck for 4 years with investigations.

    Then we win midterms big with supermajority. Win more state governments.

    Would be bad, but in the end it would probably be a worse scenario for them.

  14. 2016 November 13 4:47 pm
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    justrand permalink

    I watched that EC video in #12, drdog…I wasn’t worried, but felt better afterwards 🙂

    Even the Clintons and the Dems wouldn’t dare to try this. It would go beyond Constitutional Crisis, to CWII in a heartbeat.

    But I’m sure the Dems have discussed it anyway. 👿

  15. 2016 November 13 4:47 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Missed this — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td4wbgItqXw — Savages show opening on 11/9, Its a hoot.

    Here’s a Jew playing a Mormon standard on a white honkey network. Damn, is this a great country or what?

  16. 2016 November 13 5:54 pm
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    President Paul permalink

  17. 2016 November 13 5:57 pm
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    President Paul permalink

  18. 2016 November 13 6:25 pm
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    bc3b permalink

    Special king of stupid.

    Two men stopped to assault a Trump supporter who was celebrating at an intersection in Connecticut. Police arrested the attackers and discovered one had 54 bags of heroin he was delivering for sale:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/13/connecticut-police-arrest-two-men-brutally-assaulting-m

  19. 2016 November 13 6:29 pm
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  20. 2016 November 13 6:41 pm
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    President Paul permalink

    Massive Stewardship Fail – PepsiCo CEO Tells Trump Supporters to Take Their Business Elsewhere…

    Pepsi Co tells one half of the country that it doesn’t want their business

    Coke doesn’t mind

  21. 2016 November 13 7:03 pm
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    justrand permalink

    Screw Pepsi…and all their subsidiaries

  22. 2016 November 13 7:15 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

  23. 2016 November 13 7:23 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

  24. 2016 November 13 7:31 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    18,

    Folks in Nacogdoches invoke the ‘Duke Rule’ — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HQyFWcb3AY

  25. 2016 November 13 7:48 pm
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    JBoz permalink

    18 – Black Smoke Matters

  26. 2016 November 13 8:00 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Farage as US Ambassador to EU? Why not!

  27. 2016 November 13 8:53 pm
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    Eph permalink

    21. IP,

    Why do I have a feeling that We will be massively disappointed with Trump? Just a gut feeling.

  28. 2016 November 13 8:56 pm
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    Eph permalink

    21. Does Trump feel the same about Roe too?

    Very disappointed.

  29. 2016 November 13 8:59 pm
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    JBoz permalink

    21 & 29 – Bigger fish for Trump to fry in my opinion. This was not a burning platform in this election. Appoint the right Supremes, and let nature take its course over time, rather than seeking a no-win legislative solution.

  30. 2016 November 13 9:02 pm
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    Eph permalink

    JB,

    Speaks to his court appointees. Big problem.

  31. 2016 November 13 9:17 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    Well guys, Trump never foisted that he was a values candidate. Roe v Wade will never be overturned but it can be defeated. Just like Obamacare is collapsing under its own weight, abortions can be defeated by showing women that its not ‘a clump of cells’ but a living person just within weeks of conception.

    Remember, Liberals abort future liberals. Right thinking people raise Right thinking people.
    “If we can’t bleed them out, we just breed them out.” — Longshanks.

  32. 2016 November 13 9:18 pm
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    drdog09 permalink

    32,

    Sticks to his professed list, no problem at all.

    We are not going to get everything on the laundry list and if you think about it Trumps list of “do’s” was pretty short. —

    * 2nd Amendment protection.
    * Build the wall and deport criminal illegals.
    * Lower the tax rates.
    * SCOTUS with conservative judges.
    * Get the economy moving.

    That was it.

  33. 2016 November 13 9:23 pm
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    Eph permalink

    DR,

    Obama care?

  34. 2016 November 13 9:24 pm
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    Eph permalink

    If Trump isn’t a values candidate why should we trust his judges? Legit question to ask.

  35. 2016 November 13 9:53 pm
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    gnqanq permalink

    I agree with JBoz, let the courts figure it out over time. Get more conservatives on the court and it will be reconfigured as to what is marriage and other social issues.

    The 1st 100 days you want to get the economy moving. Jobs, jobs, jobs – tax cuts, eliminate unnecessary regulations, curtail big government and free up the economy. Go after health care which will free up discretionary money and redefine full time to 40 hours vs 29 hours will help a lot of people. All of this will help small business which is the real engine of the American economy.

    The rest can come with time BUT get the economy moving first which will help the average American the most.

  36. 2016 November 14 2:36 am
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    22 – duly noted pepsi-co… hope it’s noted beyond just consumers but among Trump supporter owned retail and restaurant outlets as well.

    Time for backlash of our own liberal boycott style – only carry pepsi-co products I pick a different place to eat. And even if she walks it back…fuck them, they’ve showed their stupidity, the fact she hasn’t been fired already by the board tells me all I need to know. No more tostitios or mtn.dew or taco bell, or pizza hut, or KFC, LJS,A&W (far as I know they carry via corporate policy – pepsi products exclusively in all YUM owned franchises which Pepsi itself used to own before spinning it off as I recall)

  37. 2016 November 14 2:39 am
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    21 – It’s like you didn’t watch the primaries or the convention.

  38. 2016 November 14 3:27 am
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    31 – Yup
    32 – Nope not big problem, that has already sailed at the outright ban level, what you can get with good judges however is state laws around it upheld (re: protections for baker type cases), and many restrictions when it comes to the life matter upheld, and an executive that will leave as much of this to the states as possible. You were provided a list of 20 or so likely justices, nobody balked at any of them that I recall, if he nominates one of those (which even those that hated him on right admitted were all good choices) there should be nothing to whine about, if he doesn’t – whine away if it’s a bad pick, I’ll be right there with you.

    Whats up though with you both talking like #21 is news or a surprise though, don’t have to like it of course, but don’t act like it’s a some position flip flop, because it’s not, which is ironic given the left has attacked and smeared him as anti-gay and think he’s gonna start hanging gays or something. Which was\is always hilarious to me because he took sh1t in the primaries for being basically the opposite from folks like Cruz and Santorum, whom interestingly didn’t really want to talk about the gay issues either because in large part it’s settled, just trannies and life is what they focused on cause even they know the other issue is nuclear beyond religious exception issues. Don’t be shocked when he repeats himself about the tranny issue too at some point I’m sure something will trigger a flame up again in the future…his position was during the campaign – leaving the legislating bathroom crap to the states even though as he said he has no issues with it personally* which bathroom they decide to pee in. On that issue he’ll likely kill Obama executive order re: schools\lockerrooms but beyond that don’t expect him to act, and even that one he may sit on for awhile till the craziness on the left dies down and after the 9th justice is seated and a couple wins are under the belt. That’s just smart politics, as is potentially using it as leverage in getting some of the harder things an up\down vote in the senate.

    33/34/37 – All say it in less words an I.

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