Have People Caught on to the Koch Brothers?

2018 July 31
by bc3b

Are they really all that much different than George Soros?

There was a time when the Koch Brothers were viewed as evil incarnate by the mass media. Since they are strongly anti-Trump, the media seems to have backed off.

There was a time when the Koch Brothers were adored by conservatives. I was a member of Americans for Prosperity. Today: not so much.

Yes, Donald Trump has truly changed the way Americans, especially Republicans, view themselves and others. The Kochs claim to be conservatives, yet they support abortion, mass migration, amnesty as well as policies that destroy working class Americans jobs and lives.

The fact that the Kochs and BJGers both identified as conservatives demonstrates how meaningless the term “conservative” had become. The Kochs are libertarians or, more likely, globalists and we now consider ourselves nationalist populists. The Kochs’ primary interest is increasing their already fat bottom line and taking care of their fat cat buddies. They couldn’t care less if the United States even exists ten years from now.

There actually two types of conservatives: patriotic Americans who loved their country and economic conservatives who view the movement simply as a means of increasing wealth.

Colorado Springs, Colo. — Republican political candidates take note: If you don’t stand with the Koch network’s libertarian values, don’t expect any money. Exhibit A: Republican Rep. Kevin Cramer, who is locked in a close race with Sen. Heidi Heitkamp in North Dakota, a state Trump won by more than 36 points.

Citing Cramer’s support for June’s farm bill, March’s $1.3 trillion omnibus, and the Export-Import Bank, Americans for Prosperity President Tim Philips told approximately 500 gathered donors Cramer is “an adversary.”

“We established that he’s an adversary on corporate welfare,” Philips said at the Colorado Springs’ historic Broadmoor Hotel, where Charles Koch is hosting the largest-yet summer meeting of his Seminar Network, adding that Cramer is “inconsistent on spending” and not aligned on trade.

“You add those three things together: adversary, inconsistent, not leading, and it makes it hard to support him … If this were 2016 or ’14, we likely would have just gone ahead and endorsed him, but we’re raising the bar.”

Hat tip: dailycaller.com

34 Responses leave one →
  1. 2018 July 31 7:50 am
    mulletover permalink

    Leftists have all the activist billionaires.

    Hard to think of one supporting the right.

  2. 2018 July 31 8:24 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Well Trump has caught on. He blasted a tweet last night calling them globalists.

  3. 2018 July 31 8:32 am
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 –

    That’s what I hate about Trump. He’s so mealy mouthed … never comes out and says what he thinks.

  4. 2018 July 31 9:52 am
    drdog09 permalink

  5. 2018 July 31 11:13 am
    drdog09 permalink

  6. 2018 July 31 11:38 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Netflix is going full Farrakhan — https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-30/netflix-offers-anti-semite-homophobe-farrakhan-documentary-starting-august-1st — Bet they won’t make an offer to Rick Warren!

  7. 2018 July 31 2:05 pm
    Eph permalink

    This is exactly why I have zero respect for “liberal-tarians”

  8. 2018 July 31 2:51 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Thank you for leaving — https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/31/uva-professors-resign-over-hiring-trump-foot-soldi/ — Don’t let the door hit you in the a$$ on your way out.

  9. 2018 July 31 4:18 pm
    bc3b permalink

    You can’t make this up – Charles Koch: Trump tariffs unfair to foreigners:



  10. 2018 July 31 4:55 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Watching the Florida rally; Trump really knows how to work the crowd.

  11. 2018 July 31 10:10 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Sometimes the Koch Bros will be on our side, sometimes not.
    With Soros the percentage of disagreement is much, much higher I would think.

    Trump in Florida: “The Time Has Come for Photo ID for Voting.”
    Where has the GOP been on this issue all these years? Isn’t this an obvious issue that they should have been pushing vigorously and scheduling votes on for years and years?
    And how about immigration-related questions on the Census? That is such low hanging fruit.

  12. 2018 July 31 10:19 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    This is a 2014 estimate–
    “California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants”

    Today I got a card in the mail offering cash, gift cards and prizes to reduce energy. You have to register your PGE account with them online, and authorize them to watch your energy usage. The ad says California would rather pay you to save energy than pay PGE to build more plants. Either this is a scam, or my tax dollars are paying for it.

    OK, so we are low on energy.
    We are also low on water.
    And we have too much garbage. Global warming laws mandate reduction of land fill by a whole bunch and the cities are rolling out new garbage bins with more compartments so garbage can be more effectively sorted.

    Question: wouldn’t these problems be noticeably reduced if the state had, say, 2.4 million FEWER residents?

  13. 2018 July 31 10:43 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    AP hates Trump’s call for voter ID.
    “The problem with the Associated Press isn’t just that its reporters are stupid or ill-informed, although that often is the case. The real problem is that the AP’s reporting is so often in bad faith, deliberately pretending not to understand, as in this instance, President Trump’s reference, and doggedly refusing to engage with the point he was making …”


  14. 2018 August 1 4:00 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Jim, couple years back on this board I sat down and calculated the savings if we shipped all the then 11m illegals back to where they came. Short answer was we freed up the capacity of 1 Baytown refinery output which would have reduced prices at the pump.

  15. 2018 August 1 4:28 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Couple of notes —

    Tommy Robinson wins appeal, freed from jail in Britain.

    An ad — https://twitter.com/i/status/1024155904533573634

  16. 2018 August 1 8:10 am
    justrand permalink


    this seems to be happening a lot to me this year…and indeed IS. But we have had another death in the family, and I will be almost completely offline for the next week.

    I keep asking for this, I know…but throw another prayer out there for my family. Thank you.

  17. 2018 August 1 8:36 am
    drdog09 permalink


    I lost my son, my mother and then my father, that order in as many years. I’ve been there. My condolences to your entire clan. Prayers to all in your family.

  18. 2018 August 1 8:41 am
    drdog09 permalink

    In for a penny….. — https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/1/twitter-hires-anti-trump-researchers-study-echo-ch/

    You know, of late the Progressives seem to have this nervous tick than once the spot light is on them they tend to double down. Key to defeating them is to drive them to the absurd end of their argument and then let it just sit there in all its glory.

  19. 2018 August 1 9:11 am
    mulletover permalink

    I know you find comfort via your strong faith. I add my prayers for you and your family during this time, and know God will bless you all.

  20. 2018 August 1 10:44 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    Bless you JR and peace to your family.

  21. 2018 August 1 10:45 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    From Breitbart.
    CA officials think illegals deserve priority over citizens when it comes to representation and funding.

    California Secretary of State Alex Padilla is urging residents of California to “resist” the inclusion of a citizenship question on the U.S. Census in 2020 by submitting comments to the U.S. Census Bureau by the August 7 deadline. On Tuesday, Padilla launched a new web portal, “All Californians Count,” through which residents are encouraged to send “feedback” to the federal government. Although the website does not take an explicit position on the citizenship question, it reminds users that the state is already suing the federal government over the issue, and adds: “A fair and accurate count will ensure that California is apportioned the appropriate number of congressional members as well as billions in funding.”

  22. 2018 August 1 2:24 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

  23. 2018 August 1 3:36 pm

    18 – Damn, sorry to hear that JR.

  24. 2018 August 1 3:38 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    JR – my thoughts and prayers. God bless you and your family.

  25. 2018 August 1 3:39 pm

    15 – Don’t know that it matters, not like T is following up on the issue, the congress sure isn’t going to lift a finger.
    20 – Yup.
    re:23 – So they basically agree with the Koch’s lol

    24 – Thanks Jim, I didn’t know it was anywhere near that bad a substance, and the guy had 42kilos JHC… How?? Sounds like even those who use it (vets etc) would be unwise to keep more than a couple grams around, and an order for much more than that would look more than odd to a legit seller don’t you think?

  26. 2018 August 1 4:28 pm

    Thought this was a good illustration about the left and the hysteria around 3d printing.

  27. 2018 August 1 4:52 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    KH, not just 42K of the chemical but dozens of matched pistols and other gear.
    Who paid for it? And smuggled it across the border?

    Love the image of the 3D gun LOL

  28. 2018 August 1 6:43 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Well JFK might have a different view, seeing as how Oswald used a bolt action single shot at a time in Dallas.

    As to the picture of the Liberator, that genie is out of the bottle. I might suggest that the designers ship a set of .skp files that place a small rod of metal before the print closes. At least at that point a scanner can pick it up. The problem that most don’t recognize this is a constitutional schism of thought vs action. Till this point one must have done the deed to bring the State against you. To get a ruling that files can be banned is the equivalent suppression of thought. What you think brings the State against you.

    Nor does this end at an digital expression of a gun. Imagine following this line of jurisprudence the book ‘1984’ could be banned as subversive.

  29. 2018 August 1 6:50 pm

    29 – Yeah but I can semi easily image how he got the weapons, not that hard if you have the dough, I can’t off the top my head think of how he acquired so much of that chemical at once\one place. In the US it’s so regulated that if wiki is to be believed only 19grams a year of production are authorized in the US.

    Anyway I looked around the web… anwser is simple enough – CHINA, quite cheaply and via basic postal service to Canada labeled as laser printer toner (or something even more creative), apparently it’s a bitch to detect and delivery vs. interception rates are high.

    Dated but probably still mostly valid article:

  30. 2018 August 1 6:53 pm

    “To get a ruling that files can be banned is the equivalent suppression of thought.”


  31. 2018 August 1 7:15 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Interesting article. Especially considering that the policy in china is that drug pushers are put to death. Leads me to believe that the delivery was by a chin state actor.

  32. 2018 August 1 8:12 pm

    33 – Dr, sadly it’s not a controlled\banned substance yet in China, or it wasn’t in early 2017, that may have changed, or not since. I’m guessing probably not given their overall lack of cooperation on almost everything but you never know since this could always boomerang on them pretty quick. I wouldn’t rule out your theory either, though that would be some next-level crap.

    I think of some idiot getting hold some of this and slapping a poppy seed size amount on my burger and it’s a permanent good-night nap for KH.

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