Gallup: Media Rated Worst at Handling Coronavirus

2020 March 26
by bc3b

Are Americans finally waking up and discovering just how corrupt and dishonest (dishonest, not biased) the media is? If this is any indication, there just may be hope. When are AT&T and Comcast going to wake up and make major changes at CNN and NBC/MSNBC?

Answer: When people start switching their cell phones from AT&T to Verizon, Sprint, T Mobile or regional carriers and their Internet carrier and cable TV to a carrier other than Comcast and their cable/Internet away from Comcast. Not before.

You can bet this poll received zero coverage from CNN, the “Alphabet Networks,” the NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times or the rest of the lapdog media.

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Americans are generally positive in their evaluations of how each of nine leaders and institutions has handled the response to the coronavirus situation. Eight of the nine receive majority positive ratings — led by U.S. hospitals, at 88% approval. Only the news media gets a more negative than positive review.

Approval Ratings of U.S. Leaders’ and Institutions’ Handling of Response to Coronavirus
Do you approve or disapprove of the way each of the following is handling the response to the coronavirus in the U.S.?
Approve Disapprove Does not apply (vol.)/No opinion
% % %
U.S. hospitals 88 10 2
Your child’s school or daycare † 83 9 8
Your state government 82 17 1
Your employer ^ 82 14 4
Government health agencies such as the CDC or NIH 80 17 2
Vice President Mike Pence 61 32 7
President Donald Trump 60 38 1
Congress 59 37 4
The news media 44 55 1
^ Based on 536 employed adults; † Based on 262 parents of children under 18; (vol.) = volunteered response
GALLUP, MARCH 13-22, 2020

These data are from a March 13-22 Gallup poll, with the field period starting on the same day President Donald Trump declared a national emergency over the coronavirus outbreak, and spanning sharp increases in the number of documented cases in the U.S., as well as the number of deaths.

About four in five Americans approve of the way their state government and government agencies such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health are handling the coronavirus outbreak. Similarly, 83% of parents of children younger than 18 rate their children’s school or daycare positively for its handling of the situation. And 82% of U.S. workers rate their employer’s response positively.

Meanwhile, about six in 10 U.S. adults approve of the response by their elected leaders in Washington: President Donald Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and the U.S. Congress as a whole.

Trump’s 60% approval rating for his handling of the coronavirus is higher than his 49% overall job rating, meaning that a substantial percentage of Americans approve of his handling of the current health crisis while disapproving of his performance more generally.

Republicans Give Greater Approval Ratings Than Democrats on Most Measures

Republicans and Republican-leaning independents rate their state government’s response to the coronavirus as highly as Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents do. Majorities of both groups also approve of the job that hospitals, government health agencies and Congress are doing, although Republicans’ approval is higher than Democrats’ in each case.

By contrast, nearly all Republicans (93%), compared with 29% of Democrats, approve of Trump’s performance, although Democrats’ approval on this measure well exceeds their overall 13% rating for Trump in the same poll.

In addition to partisanship, the lower ratings among Democrats also appear to be a function of higher levels of worry among this group.

Only on the news media’s handling of the coronavirus are Democrats more approving than Republicans — 61% vs. 25%, respectively. Gallup has consistently found that Democrats have more confidence than Republicans in mass media.

Bar graph. Approval of Leaders and Institutions on Response to Coronavirus by Party ID, March 2020.

Bottom Line

Americans are largely approving of how U.S. institutions and leaders are responding to the coronavirus situation.

Hospitals are held in the highest regard during this health crisis, consistent with the high trust and ethical ratings medical and health workers receive in normal times.

The global health pandemic is far from over, and many more challenging decisions on how to handle it will need to be made, both in the near and the long term. How leaders — from Washington to state capitals to everyday workplaces — act in the coming months will greatly affect people’s lives, and will likely shape Americans’ confidence in societal institutions long after the outbreak is under control.

86 Responses leave one →
  1. 2020 March 26 4:50 pm
    bc3b permalink

    While Gallup doesn’t show independents, you can see by comparing the two graphs just how out of touch Democrats are with the rest of America.

    For example, it’s not hard to see that independents’ negative rating of the news media isn’t that much different from Republicans.

  2. 2020 March 26 4:56 pm
    bc3b permalink

    My daughter teaches third grade in an upper middle class suburb. Here’s what her district is doing. She emails a lesson plan for the week to each student’s parent(s). She does a one-hour video conference with each of her 25 student’s parent(s) every week, discussing the lesson plan, giving advice, answering questions and trying to solve any problems the individual student may be having. The time of the call was determined by the parents based on their schedules and can be during the daytime or evening. If parents need any help between video conferences, they simply email her and she calls them.

    Her students come from diverse economic backgrounds – from a mobile home park to 4,000 sq. ft. homes. All the elementary school students in the mobile home park are bused to her school.

  3. 2020 March 26 5:11 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Trump is very, very correct about the likely skyrocketing sucide rates if we keep this “lockdown” crap going…..

    “It could be argued that this period may be more stressful than during the period of the 1929 stock market crash.

    What happened in 1929 after the crash?

    Between 1920–1928 the suicide rate was 12.1 per 100,000,

    In 1929, it climbed to 18.1 per 100,000, which is approx. a 50% increase.

    At present in the US, there are roughly 117,000 suicide attempts per month, if we assume the current pressures are in line with 1929 (they are probably worse), we could see monthly suicide attempts during the lockdown increase by 58,500 to 175,500.

    Roughly, 47,000 people per year succeed in their suicide attempts. It is currently the 10th leading cause of death in the US, during the lockdown it could climb to the 8th leading cause of death in the United States.”

  4. 2020 March 26 6:10 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Great……here comes the number of the beast:

    Bill Gates Talks Up ‘Digital Certificates’ To Enforce Mandatory Vaccines

    “The latest totalitarian to come out of the closet is Bill Gates, who says Microsoft and MIT have developed a tattoo to be implanted on everyone’s arm after the government makes a coronavirus vaccine mandatory. Presumably, you wouldn’t be able to fly, receive social security, enroll at a university, without your Holocaust-style arm stamp.”

  5. 2020 March 26 6:18 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “Perhaps not in Sweden, though. It’s hard to predict even the next few hours or days, but it is interesting that Sweden—the one European country that did not want to shut its borders, did not close schools, and has not banned gatherings of fewer than 500 people—so far seems to be containing the spread better than other countries have.

    With beautiful exaggeration, Bloomberg News reported that “Swedes Try Laissez-Faire Model in Controversial Virus Response.” Sweden did not do this out of libertarian zeal, but because of a tradition of listening to experts and health authorities, who thought it better to track individual cases within the country than to shut everything down”

    There is one sane country left in the world… martial law in Sweden

  6. 2020 March 26 6:51 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Wylie #5 –

    If you think Sweden – where you can be imprisoned for voicing virtually any criticism of Islam, Swedes are evicted from apartments to make room for migrants, firefighters won’t enter certain areas without military escorts and where women are afraid to go outside alone after dark – is the “one sane country left in the world,” you are out of your ever-loving libertarian mind.

    Too much Reason and Lew Rockford?

  7. 2020 March 26 7:32 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #6 They are acting reasonably now…..they have an economy and no martial law……it’s Lew Rockwell…..and Jim Rockford

    Yes, they will they do remain insane in the areas you mention, I am not trying to argue against anything you say, but that’s cump-change compared to what’s going on here with the suspension of all Constitutional rights….destruction of millions of lives & business…….and a government power grab that has succeeded well beyond any cultural Marxists best Muslim invasion hopes….

    Where would you be rather be right now? Locked in your own home as a prisoner or going about your business relatively unmolested as they are in Sweden….

    To me, the choice is obvious….

  8. 2020 March 26 7:50 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Wylie –


    To claim that Sweden – a leftest country – where political correctness trumps (no pun intended) personal freedom and is on the path to total destruction with unlimited migration is “the “the only sane country in the world” because it did one thing right is ludicrous. The US has many, many problems, but it is still much more sane than Sweden. We often discuss Sweden here at BJG as a country that had everything going in its favor (homogeneous people with high IQs, no underclass that commits crime at high rates and burns welfare dollars, etc.) and threw it all away.

    Ever wonder why the Libertarian Party has been around for nearly 50 years and never won anything? Why conservatives – upset with RINO control of the GOP – never flocked to the Libertarian Party? They were angry; they were frustrated; but they weren’t crazy.

    I was being flippant with Lew Rockford, but I had to look him up to find out who he is.

  9. 2020 March 26 8:15 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #8 I don’t really give a fig about the Libertarian party or parties in general but I do care about living in a free, sane, and rational world…

    The basic question was: Would you rather be locked up in your home as a prisoner with your basic individual rights forever in shreds and your economic future destroyed for a generation or more or walking freely about the streets right now?

    Guess where they are walking around the streets freely with an economy? Yep, SWEDEN!

    I will take that any day of the week myself….

    Even if they are the leftist hell-hole you describe and I said I didn’t disagree with, they are at least not bent upon destroying there whole civilization over this….yes that is sane

    You have to give credit to them for being right on this instead of blindly saying they are wrong in their response automatically due to their prevailing ideology

    Saying the response we have resorting to Martial Law is better is stupid……despite the short-term political bump for Trump the long term repucutions of allowing this response says we are now much more of a leftist-Marxist, no rights, we’re all serfs, country than Sweden

    I for one think its abhorrent immoral to lock up a person for doing nothing more than peacefully living their lives….

    At least in Sweden they have enough sense left to know the difference between what is truly immoral (the government locking peaceful people up for no good reason) and what is moral (allowing people to freely go about their way and do business)…..

    I suppose dictatorship is good if it’s “our dictator” in charge?

  10. 2020 March 26 8:20 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Wylie –

    Are you willing to surrender all your personal freedoms rather than being forced to stay at home for a few weeks? That’s basically what we are talking about. You obviously know very little about present-day Sweden and reading Reason Magazine won’t make you any smarter.

  11. 2020 March 26 8:27 pm

    Yet as much as everyone keep saying they don’t trust the media when polled, they do keep listening and falling for the very media hype and falsehoods they keep putting out.
    The other thing is “media” to most in a poll means TV networks, not big tech giants like tw\fb\ and especially google who frankly are nothing more than glorified\disguised media\publishing outlets at this point who work their asses off day in and day out to push narratives.

    85% for your state government…. that’s shockingly high given what more than a dozen have instituted.

    6- Fair.. but again Sweden is one of the few who rightfully I think has decided fk the panic, let’s all just practice good hygiene and some easy to follow protective steps…and just power though this fucker. Frankly it’s what CN eventually decided on and we will too…. after of course causing the recession our D’s (and plenty of our adversaries overseas lets not forget) wanted so desperately. Sweden def is not a country one wants to model ones own off of, but in his particular case of cov-19 it’s interesting they’ve taken one of the more sane approaches – granted they also have a much more ‘compliant\subservient’ population so they know people will actually follow rules they setup. I think they went this route because they know the alternative will completely wreck them, so it’s more out of necessity than anything but still.

  12. 2020 March 26 8:35 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    All I will say is that if you are prepared this whole thing has been a nothing burger so far. That is not to diminish those who have perished, but the numbers/analysis was/is way off.

  13. 2020 March 26 8:41 pm

    An interesting thought this article makes that I’ll bet will get no play or be dismissed out of hand in the wider press without looking into more.

    Is 5G a Deadly Trigger for the Coronavirus?

    Interesting that wuhan, milan and nyc… all huge early 5g rollout areas. BTW I’m not saying 5g=corona nor is the article, just that maybe it exacerbates the problem, which wouldn’t surprise me given the amount of shit I’ve read on unknown\known effects of high ghz signals and our bodies.

  14. 2020 March 26 8:49 pm
    bc3b permalink

    KH #14 –

    I have never been to Milan or Wuhan, but I’m familiar with NYC, which has all the ingredients to make it a coronavirus hotbed: high density population, large percentage use public transit, crowds everywhere – on subways, waiting to cross streets on the sidewalks, lots of immigrants, lots of unsanitary conditions, etc.

  15. 2020 March 26 10:47 pm

    15 – All true no doubt.
    I’ve been little wary of 5g both from medical perspective, and frankly just the lack of need\benefit for it really outside of super dense areas, the hype ain’t anywhere near reality for the majority in fly over country outside maybe the local stadium on game day. Anyway the article caught my eye, could just be mainly a cowinkydink. Just reminded me with original cell phones it took 2-3 decades of suppressing studies for industry to even fain caring and adjusting around the edges to possible negative health aspects.

  16. 2020 March 27 5:09 am
    bc3b permalink

  17. 2020 March 27 6:49 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Re: 5G

    Sad to say, 5G will remain an urban asset just on tech grounds. Current 3/4G systems can reach 2-3 miles depending on obstacles. 5G service radius is under a mile. That means mini towers everywhere. As a consequence it will be too expensive to deploy in rural areas. But wait, there is more. You watch, for munis to give a go ahead for 5G deploys will insist that a vid cam array be installed at the same time and place. Some companies have developed a tower-video-cum-lamppost that can be installed in one effort. Oceania is here boys.

    A rad triggered bio is a bit too on the edge for me. Doubt it. There is science backing the effects of radiation on the body tho. A bit more analysis before we ran forward with 5G would be worthwhile.

  18. 2020 March 27 6:49 am

    Beware the bear trap~~~the king will be happy.

  19. 2020 March 27 6:53 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Oh great. The med staff dies of a heart attack instead of Corona.

  20. 2020 March 27 7:01 am
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 #21 –

    An additional 2,000 calories never hurt anyone … as long as it doesn’t happen two days in a row.

    Notice how the more progressive companies – P&G, Kellogg’s, Campbell’s, etc. don’t seem to be stepping up?

  21. 2020 March 27 7:07 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Back’ to the OP.

    For nearly 4 years now Trump has been winning on the simple principle — don’t lie & speak plainly. The opposition has set many a trap, some sprung, yet the target has prevailed on the simple principle above.

    The surprising bit is the stupidity of the opposition, especially the press. We all know that if you try something 5-6 times and the outcome is not the one desired there can be only two lines of thought. Either the method being applied is wrong or the underlying theory is wrong. Well the opposition has tried multiple methods and they have all failed. So their theory is wrong, theory being that Trump is ‘Orange Man Bad’. Especially true of what should be the MSM’s function as objective observer. (hah!) Hence the press is especially stupid on the whole concept of their function.

  22. 2020 March 27 7:12 am
    drdog09 permalink

    “Notice how the more progressive companies – P&G, Kellogg’s, Campbell’s, etc. don’t seem to be stepping up?”

    Not too much, but that is because I don’t watch that much commercial television anymore which is the bread and butter of these companies. But I be not surprised that your observation is true. The PR arms of most of these companies are staffed by Woke minions. They don’t know how to handle reality their butts so far up their Woke asses. The same sort of thing happened right after 9/11. For six months or so it was like PC froze up and reality filled the vacuum.

  23. 2020 March 27 7:21 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Another CoVid dashboard —

    Notice something if you run the timeline. NY comes late to the virus party then in a flash is the epicenter of the whole thing.

  24. 2020 March 27 7:30 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Watch the video.

    Now their pitch is showcasing the possible spread of CoVid using IMSI cellular data. Cute.

    Think sinister. It shows just how sophisticated the tracking tech has moved forward. If you have a cellphone in your pocked is like having a target on your back.

  25. 2020 March 27 7:36 am
    drdog09 permalink

  26. 2020 March 27 7:45 am
    bc3b permalink

  27. 2020 March 27 7:51 am
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 #24 –

    I watch the oldies channels, so I see a lot of ads for Colonial Penn, Life Alert and scumbag lawyers (how’s that for redundancy?)

  28. 2020 March 27 1:58 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    27, love it!

  29. 2020 March 27 4:55 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    President Trump Invokes Defense Production Act And Orders General Motors To Make Ventilators

    LD lede. Can’t say he didn’t telegraph his intent. What would I have liked to see? There is a company that has a patent on a particular ventilator. I would like to see Trump invalidate the patent, or buy it, release it in the public domain. Include the Fusion 3D prints of the thing. Let anyone with a 3D printer make the things. They are already doing that in one Italian hospital.

  30. 2020 March 27 5:03 pm
    justrand permalink

    Drdog, that is a GREAT idea

  31. 2020 March 27 5:15 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #28 Yeah, gotta really love that one eh?

    Start a huge panic on behalf of world-wide totalitarian government and then say, wooops – me bad, make big mistake….

    Right after the damage done but in time to “salvage his credibility” as a so-called “expert”…..

    So he can run the same playbook on us again!

    When will we stop worshiping at the feet of government “experts” who have been wrong on literally everything?

  32. 2020 March 27 5:22 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #10 No, I totally agree with you on all you say on Sweden’s other misguided policies & leftist political bent…

    I simply said they acted sanely on this one – and only one – issue of how to deal with the coronavirus

    The problem I have is that what you say is a mere few weeks of lockdown sets a new precedent that the government elites can roll out anytime they please….

    Obviously the American public is more than willing to go along with the police state in the future as more of these “crisis” are rolled out and the “temporary” changes are made permanent….for the false promise of “safety”…….obviously the lockdown didn’t provide us any “safety” against the virus and made totally unsafe in our economic well-being and other measures of health in mortality in the long-term.

    Remember we said the Patriot Act was temporary?

    Going on 19 years…….and counting……

  33. 2020 March 27 8:15 pm

    These draconian measures may seem prudent at the present time if they are TEMPORARY, but big gubmint encroachment is seldom temporary.

    “Government needs to expand to meet the expanding needs of government”~~~ANON

    Beware newspeak/doublethink/oceana.

  34. 2020 March 27 8:25 pm

    Is this crap the end times vis a vis revelations, or a planned attack by the chinks???

    How the hell does an aircraft carrier have people become infected while at sea ??? Cruise ships are a different matter, as they hit ports of call with lots of tourists. They damn well better double crew the missile silos,so we can take the bastards with us.

  35. 2020 March 27 9:15 pm
    justrand permalink

    I thought the exact same thing, IP.

  36. 2020 March 27 9:45 pm

    $100,000,000 to NASA
    $20,000,000,000 to the USPS
    $300,000,000 to the Endowment for the Arts – just because
    $300,000,000 for the Endowment for the Humanities – because no one even knew that was a thing
    $435,000,000 for mental health support
    $30,000,000,000 for the Department of Education stabilization fund
    $200,000,000 to Safe Schools Emergency Response to Violence Program
    $300,000,000 to Public Broadcasting
    $500,000,000 to Museums and Libraries
    $720,000,000 to Social Security Admin – but get this only 200,000,000 is to help people. The rest is for admin costs.
    $25,000,000 for Cleaning supplies for the Capitol Building – page 136
    $7,500,000 to the Smithsonian for additional salaries
    $35,000,000 to the JFK Center for performing Arts
    $25,000,000 for additional salary for House of Representatives – ?!?
    $3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA
    $315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs
    $95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development
    $300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance
    $300,000,000 for Migrant and Refugee Assistance – pg 147
    $90,000,000 for the Peace Corp – pg 148
    $13,000,000 to Howard University – pg 121
    9,000,000 Misc Senate Expenses – pg 134
    $100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers – pg 162 This of note because the Airlines are going to need billions in loans to keep them afloat. $100,000,000 is chump change
    $40,000,000,000 goes to the Take Responsibility to Workers and Families Act – This sounds like it’s direct payments for workers. Pg 164
    $1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program – pg 163
    $25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs – pg 165
    $492,000,000 to National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) – pg 167
    $526,000,000 Grants to Amtrak to remain available if needed through 2021 – pg 168
    Hidden on page 174 the Secretary has 7 days to allocate the funds & notify Congress
    $25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure – pg 169
    $3,000,000 Maritime Administration – pg 172
    $5,000,000 Salaries and Expensive Office of the Inspector General – pg 172
    No voter ID to get a ballot, & anonymous “ballot harvesting” – pg 650
    $2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing – pg 175
    $5,000,000 Community Planning and Development – pg 175
    $2,500,000 Office of Housing
    $1,500,000,000 Tenant-Based Rental
    Assistance Office of Public and Indian Housing. – 1,000,000,000 of which can be used as “additional administrative and other expenses”. – pg 176
    $720,000,000 to the public housing fund – pg 177
    $100,000,000 for Community Block Grants for Native Americans – pg 183
    $250,000,000 for Housing Block Grants for Tribes – pg 182
    $130,000,000 for AIDS Housing – pg 185
    $20,000,000 of which goes to one time grantees whatever that means – pg 186
    $15,000,000,000 for the Community Development Fund – pg 188
    Only $10,000,000 of which is set aside for infrastructure for fighting infectious disease – pg 191
    $5,000,000,000 in Homeless Assistance – pg 193
    $100,000,000,000 for Rental Assistance – pg 198
    An additional $7,000,000 enforce the Fair Housing Act – pg 203
    Paid Family Leave for Sickness is 2 paid work weeks pg 213
    Emergency Family Leave
    Now applies to all employers not just companies over 500 employees pg 208
    Guarantees paid leave to employees who have an in-law who gets sick pg 209
    Opens up leave for some you are in a “committed relationships with” pg 212
    $1,000,000,000 for more Obamaphones
    $227,000,000 for grants to States for youth
    2 activities pg 80
    $261,000,000 for grants to States for dislocated worker employment and training activities, including supportive services and needs-related payments; pg 80
    $10,000,000 for Migrant and Seasonal
    Farmworker programs
    $100,000,000 for ‘‘Job Corps’’
    $15,000,000 for ‘‘Program Administration’’
    $6,500,000, to the ‘‘Wage and Hour Division’’
    $30,000,000, to OSHA
    $10,000,000 for Susan Harwood training grants
    $1,300,000,000, for ‘‘Primary Health Care’’
    $75,000,000, for ‘‘Student Aid Administration’’
    $9,500,000,000, for ‘‘Higher Education’’

    If true, this is the cluster fuk of all cluster fuks from clusterfukistan,

  37. 2020 March 28 12:55 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    39, makes your blood boil.
    Pres Trump is willing to roll over for these situations.
    I recall him sharply criticizing the Freedom Caucas over the emergency Continuing Resolution back in his early days. Now sharp criticism of Rep Massie for asking HoRs to publicly vote for the biggest bailout in history. Caused by China but abetted by Dem Govs who shut things down.

  38. 2020 March 28 2:55 am

    Orange man~~the perfect mole????

  39. 2020 March 28 3:43 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    Personally I don’t buy “orange man mole”
    He could be on the beach, enjoying his money and his super model wife.
    He didn’t have to sign up for all the aggravation.

    He’s not always right, he’s facing enormous head winds and there’s too many dumb, selfish, low info citizens.

  40. 2020 March 28 4:59 am
    MI Conservative permalink

    Michigan has now got a governor worse than Newsom or Cuomo.

    Clueless, blames everyone else, petty, and just plain stupid!

  41. 2020 March 28 5:24 am
    drdog09 permalink

    37, 38,

    They do it with this — — 1300mi with max load.

  42. 2020 March 28 5:28 am
    drdog09 permalink


    There is a lot I don’t like on that list, natch. But I would observe that regardless they would have just assembled another omnibus spending bill soon after to cover the same things. Sucks I know.

  43. 2020 March 28 5:31 am
    drdog09 permalink

    “Clueless, blames everyone else, petty, and just plain stupid!” — MI

    Missed one. Need to include the voters who put him there. 🙂

  44. 2020 March 28 5:35 am
    drdog09 permalink

    I put it to you. Is this why the Chins did massive lockdowns — — And we were stupid enough to copy them without thinking??

  45. 2020 March 28 6:23 am
    justrand permalink

    IP & drdog, in your #39 and #46…you’re both right. It SUCKS, but most of the trash would have wound up in an “Omnibus” Bill anyway.

    Trump will remind America as this passes, that he asked for money ONLY to help people and companies that employ people. It was the Democrats (and a few RINOs) who laid on the pork.

  46. 2020 March 28 7:24 am

    43~~~neither do I, I was just venting a little spleen at the dem blackmail.

    I doubt the veracity of the list I published in post 39, probably a dem wish list that was whittled down considerably.If trump accepted that crap , he would have at least added $$$$ for the wall.

  47. 2020 March 28 7:26 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    I’m no finance guy. So take with a grain of salt but this feels to me like the sort of thing that could do real damage to the economy. Hey, maybe we can get “Socialism” without a vote from Duh People.
    Two snips below but you also have read a bit more around those areas (I didn’t want to paste the whole thing)
    “But the Coronavirus has caused a virtual shutdown of the US economy, which has created an unprecedented amount of job losses. This adds a new risk to the servicer because borrowers may have difficulty paying their mortgage in a timely manner. And although the Servicer does not own the asset, they have the responsibility to make the payment to the investor, even if they have not yet received it from the borrower.”
    And this
    “In the Government’s effort to help those who have lost their jobs because of the Coronavirus shutdown, they have granted forbearance of mortgage payments for affected individuals. This presents an enormous obstacle for Servicers who are obligated to forward the mortgage payment to the investor, even though they have not yet received it. Fortunately, there is a new facility set up to help Mortgage Servicers bridge the gap to the investor. However, it is unclear as to how long it will take for Servicers to access this facility.
    But what has not been yet contemplated is the fact that a borrower who does not make their very first mortgage payment causes that loan to be ineligible to be sold to an investor.”

  48. 2020 March 28 8:17 am
    bc3b permalink

    ip727 #39 –


  49. 2020 March 28 8:19 am
    bc3b permalink

    How hard up are sports channels for programming? This morning Fox Sports 1 has the Highlights of the 2016 Westminster Dog Show. I bet they are paying sponsors to advertise.

  50. 2020 March 28 8:53 am
    justrand permalink

    bc3b: “This morning Fox Sports 1 has the Highlights of the 2016 Westminster Dog Show.

    hell, there’s probably online wagering as to who is gonna win!! 🙂

  51. 2020 March 28 9:21 am
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #55 Yes, government is the only truly non-essential thing that is shut down

    90% could never reopen and we wouldn’t know the difference

    Of course, since it employs armed goons to steal their money they won’t go out of business unlike these decent, working folks:

    “Such is the cruelty of economic contractions care of overdone hysteria and political force. The reverberations are broad.

    The seen is the empty restaurants; that, or restaurants reduced to a fraction of their former capacity in the form of curbside takeout. The unseen is, among other things, the brutality endured by the suppliers of those restaurants.

    Sick-inducing is that the 350 workers mentioned above are but a fraction of the total number who will have to figure out ways to get by without a paycheck given the forced shutdown of all “nonessential” businesses in various parts of the country.

    That all too many of these businesses were open, and thriving not too many weeks ago, is a reminder that politicians have a different understanding of “essential” than do investors, businesses heads, and employees.”

  52. 2020 March 28 10:06 am
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    The truth finally comes out:

    “On March 11 Dr. Anthony Fauci famously told a congressional hearing that the COVID-19 virus was “ten times worse” than the seasonal flu. Then fifteen days later, on March 26, he co-authored an article that was published in the New England Journal of Medicine in which he wrote that the COVID-19 was “no worse” than a “very bad flu” but nothing like SARS or MERSA.

    Having been involved in the academic publishing business for the past 41 years, I can say with some authority that the article published in the New England Journal of Medicine was almost certainly submitted to the journal months before March 11, probably many months. This fact suggests that Fauci knew on March 11 that he was misleading Congress — and the world — about the severity of the coronavirus.”

  53. 2020 March 28 10:08 am
    bc3b permalink

    MI Conservative #44 –

    Like Gov. Jen except even dumber and far more evil and ugly.

  54. 2020 March 28 10:35 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    Hockey-based humor, cartoonish violence, political themes.
    If only this was what was really going on!

  55. 2020 March 28 10:55 am
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #58 Here is your esteemed governor’s hatred of God on full display:

    “This is what Whitmer said about church attendance recently on Fox News: “”We are encouraging people, though, do not congregate,” Whitmer said. “Do not go to church on Sunday and sit next to people who could be spreading the COVID-19. That would be the worst thing in the world, to go to church and worship … and sit next to someone and infect them and have them suffer life-threatening consequences.””

    Note how she goes out of her way to insinuate that you are a threat not blessing to the neighbor and conversely the neighbor is a threat to you – this is evil! Governor Whitmer is one very morally confused person.

    She cannot tell the difference between a real crime and threat to life like closing peaceful people’s business and churches and ordering them into imprisonment in their homes at gunpoint and fake ones like a person who may inadvertently get sick from contact with another person.

    Many of us Christians feel that the “worst thing in the world” would be to not hear Christ speaking to us His Gospel Words of forgiveness of sins and eternal life….

  56. 2020 March 28 11:00 am
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Did you also note that Governor Whitmer’s emergency power last on 28 days (after that they must be extended by the legistature):

    Yet she already ordered martial law for 3 days beyond her authority!,9309,7-387-90499_90705-522626–,00.html

    She declared the state of emergency on March 13th and 28 days later is April 10th.

    If I lived in MI I would be calling my state Legisture rep and asking WTF?

    I would certainly be telling them in no uncertain terms they had better no vote to extend her emergency powers!

    I would also work hard to get this info into the hands of the Trump team who is already slamming “half” Whitmer hard for her handling of the crisis….

    For gosh-sake, she can’t even count to 28!

  57. 2020 March 28 11:08 am
    bc3b permalink

    JimNorCal #59 –

    Very enjoyable.

    The Ontario Hockey League (one of the top junior leagues) has announced there will be no playoffs this year. Sad because my Flint Firebirds were loaded this year (15 game winning streak), but realistic. The NHL and NBA might as well admit that playoffs aren’t going to be possible this year.

  58. 2020 March 28 11:17 am
    bc3b permalink

    Wylie –

    Whitmer is just part of the problem in Michigan. Our lesbian Stassi attorney general has suggested that people spy on their neighbors and report them for violating “home-in-shelter” directives. Next she will be offering children candy for ratting on their parents. Stalin and Hitler would be so proud.

    Bad things happen when Joe and Joan Average American don’t bother to vote in off-year elections.

  59. 2020 March 28 11:18 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    My medical opinion is not worth a fig. Still, there is a lot of info coming out about the experimental anti-malaria drug/antibiotic combo for use against the virus.
    Trump mentioned it and the Left has been going crazy ever since. Plus some guy and his wife took a similarly named fish-tank-cleaner chemical and got sick (one died). So the Left exulted about that.

    If you or a loved one has the decision to make, strongly consider going for the treatment.

    There was a previous study but a very small number of participants. As I recall 2 people died before completing the treatment and one dropped out due to nausea side-effect. Of those who completed the course of medication there were terrific results.

    Now there is a new result reported.
    Michael Coudrey
    The French physician & microbiologist who conducted the original study showcasing the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine & Azithromycin has just completed another clinical trial with 80 patients.

    -93% tested negative in 8 days
    -97.5% had no virus in lungs after 5 days…

  60. 2020 March 28 11:19 am
    bc3b permalink

    Now NBC Sports Channel has the re-run of an auto auction from 2018.

  61. 2020 March 28 11:24 am
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #63 Yike, you got a regular gulag and police state going on there….

    I hope your Republican legislatures shows some backbone and votes NO on extending Gov Hitler’s emergency powers!

  62. 2020 March 28 12:28 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Michigan has over 3,600 reported cases and 92 deaths. Ohio, a neighboring state with 1.6 million more people and similar demographics, has about 1,150 confirmed cases and 20 deaths.

  63. 2020 March 28 1:20 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    “NBC Sports Channel has the re-run of an auto auction from 2018”

    That … is pathetic.
    Click on my link at 59 for some better sports action!

  64. 2020 March 28 1:32 pm
    bc3b permalink

    JimNorCa; #68 –

    Already have, See post #62. Click on my thread tomorrow for even better sports action.

  65. 2020 March 28 1:53 pm
    justrand permalink

    here’s more on the latest study…hopeful news unless you live in Nevada, where their idiot Governor has banned its use.

  66. 2020 March 28 3:53 pm

    As if anyone didn’t seen this coming when they yanked her show in favor of corona coverage…and then didn’t do corona coverage but put on re-runs of shit nobody watches instead.
    Trish Regan officially fired

    37 – Cause this thing has been floating around the world since November, and by this thing I mean the virus, not the boat.

  67. 2020 March 28 4:11 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #67 Maybe simply due to the fact that Ohio is south of MI and the virus doesn’t do well as the temperatures go up….

    I also heard that Detroit had “hundreds tested positive” in their Police Department alone which seems highly suspect if you have only 3600 odd cases

    I think half-Whitmer is trying to ratchet up the panic count to justify keeping the Big 3 closed down to hurt the Trump economy…..

    Isn’t it strange that the highest counts come from states with rapidly ideologically Commie blue state Governors?

    My theory is that half-Whitmer is bucking to be the Biden VP choice since he wants a shemale on the ticket….

    That’s my theory……that and all them Muslims over in Dearborn flying in from overseas

  68. 2020 March 28 4:14 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    This is indeed HEROIC…….somebody with the guts to resist the Martial Law edict:

    “I don’t want to blow anyone’s cover but, with the draconian lockdown in San Francisco, black market barbers have emerged on the scene.

    Black markets = an attempt to restore free-market exchange at a time of authoritarian rule.”

  69. 2020 March 28 4:30 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Here is a simpatico Police State informant site like the Michigan AG’s :

    “Trump has called up military reservists by this executive order, to “fight the virus,” or so he says. An armed military under direction of the federal government, or paid for by the federal government with direction to the the states, does not fight viruses, it fights people.

    This is akin to heavily armed U.S. troops forcibly flooding a country under the auspices of a “peace” mission.

    This is being treated as no big deal, but when this government-created virus abomination gets more ugly, it will be a very big deal. This is a major step in preparation for martial law, when one’s once neighbors that went on weekend drills, will be let loose on the streets of America with orders to do whatever is necessary to enforce state and federal lockdown mandates.

    This is the new America that the people are accepting almost without question.”

  70. 2020 March 28 5:24 pm

  71. 2020 March 28 5:32 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Florida putting checkpoints on its border. Doesn’t want refugees from NY or NOLA.
    Rhode Island doesn’t want NYers either

  72. 2020 March 28 5:33 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Compare. Contrast.
    Obama treatment vs Trump

  73. 2020 March 28 5:35 pm

    76 – Lame, but funny how borders suddenly matter to some of these states who supported sanctuary cities.

  74. 2020 March 28 5:45 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    That’s damn funny, as the ‘NY refugees’ pour in to Miami International Airport. They have shut down the airports as far as I know….

  75. 2020 March 28 5:49 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #76 Checkpoints? Sounds like martial law to me…..calling up Federal troops?

    Madness over something that is on par with the flu

  76. 2020 March 28 5:52 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    WEC, 74,

    I feel a short story coming over me. Those tested positive (see 79) are placed into FEMA camps. The camps become hot zones throughout the country. The infected have gps embedded in them. Many try daring escapes some of which succeed. FEMA is authorized to track, capture and if resisting shoot on sight. The protagonists in the story are a young couple who escaped the camp and are on the run.

  77. 2020 March 28 5:58 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Chance of getting it on par with the average flu. Having being infected the results are quite different depending on the victim’s state of health.

  78. 2020 March 28 6:01 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #82 People would be insane to put up with that for the flu…..but who would thunk this?

  79. 2020 March 28 6:02 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #83 But hardly an “automatic death sentence” for 99% of the people who get it

  80. 2020 March 28 6:22 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    More deaths that can be attributed directly to fearmonger Trump adviser Anthony Fauci and power freak politicians.

    The Knox County Regional Forensic Center examined nine suspected suicides just in the last 48 hours, eight from Knox County, according to Knox County Mayor Glenn Jacobs, who tells it like it is.

    These examinations equate to roughly 10% of last year’s total within Knox County, according to a news release from the mayor, reports WATE.

    “That number is completely shocking and makes me wonder if what we are doing now is really the best approach,” Jacobs said. “We have to determine how we can respond to COVID-19 in a way that keeps our economy intact, keeps people employed and empowers them with a feeling of hope and optimism – not desperation and despair.”

    Also see:

    Suicide Attempts Could Increase By 58,500 Per Month During the Lockdown

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