Presidents Come, Presidents Go …

2020 March 3
tags:
by drdog09

… But a few are standouts. Not because they were Gods or Royal. More for they were heralds of change –

  • Washington – Held the colonies together to win a protracted engagement and of course was first.
  • Lincoln – Altered the relationship between the States and the Federal government forever. The war was just the instrument of that reality.
  • Roosevelt II – Inserted the Federal government into the personal lives of Americans. It has not retreated in that regard.
  • Trump – Busted the hold that the establishment parties have held on politics for over a century.

With the exception of Washington, none of these Presidents were universally loved. They all had their detractors, their efforts considered ‘unAmerican’ of the period. Which brings us to Trump.

POTUS has all the ear marks this piece points to. Beat all the GOP hopefuls. Most certainly will trounce the Democratic runner in 2020. Has wounded the administrative state. Has exposed the intel state for what it is. Triggered nationalism and shone a light on the weaknesses of globalism.

Will Trump leave a lasting legacy? If history is a guide, no. Men of Trumps’ ilk are disputer’s, designed to shake out the old cobwebs to make way for what comes after. He will continue to have detractors. He may very well tame the intel state; not because he is wise, but more because they are stupid. We may see a reduction in US presence everywhere in the world for it costs too much. We may very well see production come home – more for fear of a virus – than the tax incentives that were offered.

The actual change will arrive when he leaves office; not while he resides in it.

36 Responses leave one →
  1. 2020 March 3 6:29 am
    [1]
    JimNorCal permalink

    Probably right about Trump: he’s one guy. Deep State can hunker down and wait.
    We need (at least) hundreds of thousands of informed, dedicated and vigilant patriots.

  2. 2020 March 3 6:31 am
    [2]
    JimNorCal permalink

    This stat may not be true for long but it’s notable

    https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2020/03/highlights-of-news_3.html
    A reader noted, “More people have dropped out of the Democrat presidential primaries than have died of the corona virus in the U.S.”

  3. 2020 March 3 7:09 am
    [3]
    justrand permalink

    and I would put Reagan in that category because he finally challenged the Soviet Union. His refusal to cave on SDI, and especially abruptly leaving Reykjavik were turning points in world affairs. The USSR collapsed shortly thereafter!

  4. 2020 March 3 7:09 am
    [4]
    justrand permalink

    and Roosevelt II makes the list in a BAD way.

  5. 2020 March 3 7:44 am
    [5]
    JimNorCal permalink

    Ron was a terrific leader and did all he could with what he had.
    I have no complaints; we just needed more like him.
    That said, this article by a guy named Chris Caldwell makes plain where the Age of Reagan came up short.
    https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-price-of-the-1980s/

    I don’t agree with all his analysis. For example, I don’t consider it a given that conservatives rolled over because they were satisfied with prosperity. But a close reading of the discussion of policy outcomes for those years is, to me, pretty convincing and a bit depressing.

    This review of Caldwell’s book makes similar points.
    https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-law-that-ate-the-constitution/

  6. 2020 March 3 7:45 am
    [6]
    JimNorCal permalink

    How come we two Californicators are up and about while all those closer to the First Coast are still napping? LOL

  7. 2020 March 3 8:47 am
    [7]
    bc3b permalink

    JimNorCal #6 –

    Some of us are concentrating on more important things (e.g. the bikinis in the previous thread … and the women wearing them).

  8. 2020 March 3 9:05 am
    [8]

    Fed be cutting 50 basis points, and the donald tweeting he’s still not happy, lol.

  9. 2020 March 3 9:08 am
    [9]

    dumb: “US special envoy to Syria: ready to supply Turkey with ammunition for the battle in Idlib “

  10. 2020 March 3 9:45 am
    [10]

    “Lindsey Graham on Twitter: “Very much appreciate what Turkey is doing to stand with the people of Idlib, Syria. It is time for the world, including the United States, to declare a no-fly zone over Idlib before the humanitarian crisis escalates””

    Graham on record in support of AlQueda being left alone, nice. Sadly the president has a habit of listening to this prick.

    In other news bibi one another election.

  11. 2020 March 3 9:53 am
    [11]
    drdog09 permalink

    JR, 3,4,

    I thought about adding Reagan but when I thought longer, his accomplishments as POTUS were on the foreign front which did fundamentally change world politics. But domestically not so much. Fact he had more impact domestically while he was governor and president of the actor guild fighting the communists here.

  12. 2020 March 3 9:57 am
    [12]
    drdog09 permalink

    5,

    Reagan’s insight was fundamentally knowing just how weak the CCCPs hand was economically and militarily. Again something he picked up in his domestic service as guv.

  13. 2020 March 3 10:00 am
    [13]
    drdog09 permalink

    9,

    KH, goes right back to you comment in the last thread. Are we fighting them or helping them.

    Can’t remember who said it but the first rule of war is — “Define who is your enemy and know them well.”

  14. 2020 March 3 10:03 am
    [14]
    drdog09 permalink

    Notice anything??

  15. 2020 March 3 10:03 am
    [15]

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/03/obama-holdover-obscure-government-arm-helped-cause-daniel-greenfield/

    The best example of this was the decision to fly back infected American passengers from the Diamond Princess. This fateful decision helped spread the virus inside the United States.

    President Trump had been told that nobody with the coronavirus would be flown to America.

    The State Department decided to do it anyway without telling him and only made the announcement shortly after the planes landed in the United States.

    If you read it all you come away with the impression (as if we already didn’t have it) the state dept thinks it’s the chief executive, and pompoms hasn’t done jack to change that mentality.

  16. 2020 March 3 10:08 am
    [16]

    13 – and I answered I considered terrorists and Turkey who’s leader views aren’t that far removed a far greater threat than Assad ever was even when he was 100x time stronger back in 2011, not to mention the shell of it’s former self it is at present.

    Lucy is really pissing me off because he and McFinallyDead started\helped create this problem to begin with nearly a decade ago and he just can’t let it end.

  17. 2020 March 3 10:11 am
    [17]

    So now candidates running for office are suggesting Trump supporters be targeted for corona infection… and the D party is apparently ok with this.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/denver-democrat-candi-cdebaca-stands-in-solidarity-with-wanting-to-use-coronavirus-on-trump-supporters

  18. 2020 March 3 11:24 am
    [18]
    drdog09 permalink

    KH,

    It would be interesting to see her reaction if I showed up at her abode with tent in one hand, cook stove in another and asked where her living room was. As I was setting up shop I bet she would be calling the cops. Her property is really not hers according to her political views right?

  19. 2020 March 3 11:44 am
    [19]

    18 – Indeed. 😉

  20. 2020 March 3 11:45 am
    [20]
    bc3b permalink

    Joe Biden now Democratic Favorite to win Democratic nomination:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/

  21. 2020 March 3 11:46 am
    [21]
    JimNorCal permalink

    Ubiquitous

  22. 2020 March 3 12:18 pm
    [23]
    Eph permalink

  23. 2020 March 3 12:25 pm
    [24]
    fight on permalink

    I went and voted today in the TX primary. I wasn’t sure if I would vote in the repub primary or go for operation
    KAOS (homage to get smart).

    I really dislike my congressman Dr Burgess a Paul Ryan toady. He was Ryan’s shill on his crappy redo of Obama care.
    Getting rid of Rino Cornyn is very desirable indeed. The problem is both candidates had 3 primary challengers. You can’t get rid of an incumbent with multiple challengers.

    I ended up going for KAOS and voted Bernie. Besides the Dem line was short and the R line went up a staircase.

    Dr Dog and Mr IP what did you do?

  24. 2020 March 3 12:28 pm
    [25]
    bc3b permalink

    Polls show big bounce for Biden. You have to wonder what the DNC offered Petey Boy, Klobuchar, O’Rourke and the others that suddenly endorsed Biden.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/polls-show-big-bounce-to-biden-ahead-of-super-tuesday/ar-BB10GGs3?ocid=spartandhp

    Just a week ago gaffe-prown Biden was given up for dead.

    Tonight’s vote counts should be far more interesting than we imagined. It may be the beginning of an inner-party war that will explode in Milwaukee.

  25. 2020 March 3 12:30 pm
    [26]
    bc3b permalink

    Fight On #24 –

    You have to wonder if the GOP establishment doesn’t convince some candidates to run to split the unhappy vote so the incumbent will win nomination.

  26. 2020 March 3 12:33 pm
    [27]
    Eph permalink

    https://news.yahoo.com/poll-sanders-leading-california-ahead-204027003.html

    You have to wonder what effect mini Mike has on Biden now???

    LololoL

  27. 2020 March 3 1:00 pm
    [28]
    bc3b permalink

    Tonight should be fun.

    Plan to join us beginning at 7 PM (Eastern Time). Don’t forget the popcorn and beer (Yuengling if you can find it).

  28. 2020 March 3 2:00 pm
    [29]
    JimNorCal permalink

    “You have to wonder what the DNC offered …”
    I read a comment where it was speculated that Mayor Pete and Amy were told to get out ‘or else’.
    Pete dropped immediately. When Amy hesitated they sent BLM muscle to bust up her rally. She dropped the next day

  29. 2020 March 3 2:04 pm
    [30]
    drdog09 permalink

    Fight on,

    I passed this time. There was nothing in the local races of any importance and no chance to change the scheme of things as far as up ballot on the ticket. Heck we only have one Dim judge and he is no lefty. No chance to hang any Pol this time around. 🙁

  30. 2020 March 3 2:06 pm
    [31]
    drdog09 permalink

    BC,

    I be going Corona since it is running at a discount at Spec’s. Popcorn will be at the ready too.

    I want to see if Bernie carries CA.

  31. 2020 March 3 2:22 pm
    [32]

    Dr Dog and Mr IP what did you do? fight on

    Stayed in and listened to rush. fukem

  32. 2020 March 3 3:01 pm
    [33]
    fight on permalink

    Reason number 999 to turn Fox off. I was pissed and insulted when Fox hired Donna Brazile. She is an admitted liar and a cheat. What Fox I do watch I DVR it, if Donna comes on I don’t fast forward I hit erase. If Dan Bonginio or any conservative said this about Tom Perez they would be suspended.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/485698-donna-brazile-rips-rnc-chairwoman-mcdaniel-on-fox-news-ronna-go-to-hell

  33. 2020 March 3 3:05 pm
    [34]
    Eph permalink

    DR,

    If Bernie loses KA it’s Bin Biden 2020

  34. 2020 March 3 4:14 pm
    [35]
    justrand permalink

    fight on, and Brazille’s outburst was PRECIESLY because she was caught out. The Democrat Primary system IS a rigged game. The “proportional” distribution prevents a Bernie Sanders from getting enough votes to win outright, and the “Super-Delegate” bullshit ensures the Party bosses can hand pick whoever they want.

  35. 2020 March 3 5:03 pm
    [36]
    drdog09 permalink

    35,

    Got that right.

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.