Shutdown This!

2020 November 17
by drdog09

One of Biden’s team is suggesting shutting down the entire economy for six to eight weeks.

After Labor Day, Osterholm said, he warned the U.S. would see an “astronomical” increase in new cases. That prediction has come true in only a matter of weeks, he said, adding that “this number is going to continue to increase substantially.”

“We have not even come close to the peak and, as such, our hospitals are now being overrun,” Osterholm said. “The next three to four months are going to be, by far, the darkest of the pandemic.”

And while Pfizer’s early Covid-19 vaccine data showing more than 90% effectiveness is “a great, great finding,” Osterholm said that more data is needed to understand how effective the vaccine is in preventing serious illness and death versus more mild symptoms. “Until we have those pieces of information, we can’t really know how much of a game changer this really is,” he said.

On Monday, Biden’s transition team announced the handful of members, including Osterholm, who will consult with state and local leaders to help steer the federal response once the president-elect takes office on Jan. 20.


Nor is CoVid the Black Death. CoVid’s death rate is only 4x higher than Pneumonia. here and here. And heart attacks are still the number one killer of Americans. Its also the reason that the Presstitutes only mention the cases found and not death rates. They are instilling fear.

I might point out that shutting down is impossible –

  • Cold starting a steel mill is something you really don’t want to do.
  • How about that nuclear reactor? Just going to leave it unmanned?
  • Same for gas plants. And if they are going to run, then the pipelines and the downstream support staff for all of it have to keep running as well.
  • People have to eat, even if it is at home. Which means the trains and trucks have to keep running and all their staff on the job.
  • The Trucks and Trains need fuel which mean the oil refineries need to keep running and all their staff on the job.
  • Oh and ranchers and farmers need to keep working to feed all of us.

For a typical liberal, everything looks like a ‘job’, nothing more. They don’t fathom that that most jobs exist to provide a service or product. Their thinking is no deeper than the shrink wrapped Wugu beef they pick up at the Whole Foods market. Nary a thought that this came from a rancher a thousand miles away.

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

103 Responses leave one →
  1. 2020 November 17 7:19 am
    drdog09 permalink

  2. 2020 November 17 7:21 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Women can do manual labor,

  3. 2020 November 17 7:27 am
    justrand permalink

    drdog, the link in #1 was very interesting

    the fly in this election ointment may ultimately be John Roberts. if he can convince 4 other Justices to punt then the fraudulent election stands. This week will (or should) tell the tale

  4. 2020 November 17 7:30 am
    Eph permalink


    When did he concede?

    If so drop the lawsuits.

  5. 2020 November 17 7:31 am
    Eph permalink


    Seems T already knows the courts wont help him.

  6. 2020 November 17 8:14 am
    bc3b permalink

    BJG College Football Standings (thru week 11)

    JBoz: 77-45 (season)/15-3 (week)
    TLS: 75-47/13-5
    Fight On: 75-47/14-4
    bc3b: 75-47/14-4
    MI Conservative: 71-51/13-5
    JimNorCal: 61-61/13-5
    Eph: 58-64/12-6

  7. 2020 November 17 8:21 am

    Roberts has already shown his colors as a deep state mole.

  8. 2020 November 17 8:39 am
    Eph permalink

  9. 2020 November 17 8:52 am
    mpt permalink

    A little something for mpt

    I sincerely hope so. Reading it now. Thanks.

  10. 2020 November 17 9:00 am
    justrand permalink

    Trump hasn’t conceded…the court filings have been made, but no arguments or evidence presented yet.

    The clock is ticking down, however

  11. 2020 November 17 9:07 am
    mpt permalink

    From 1, In that scenario, the attorneys will not have to force the Supreme Court into a judgment call. They’ll be able to demonstrate unambiguous voter fraud on a massive scale. That would be ideal as it would no longer be about throwing out ballots. It would be about counting the ballots properly.

    A question I have is how would such a case be brought before the Supreme Court? Does it have to wind its way through state courts, or can it be brought directly?

    If this is the case, I’m not terribly confident in a complicated story that winds its way from Venezuela a decade ago to this more recent election in 2020. This better be just the preamble followed by a solid who did what, where, when, and how on Nov 3rd component.

    I guess we’ll find out.

  12. 2020 November 17 9:18 am

    As for court cases status, one simple issue is being heard today in PA (over watchers), (apparently with Rudy to be in court room as a lawyer first time since 1992).

    13 – Usually it would wind it’s way, though it doesn’t have too, yes usually at least something happens first in a state court or a lower federal court. There were a couple different parts of Bush v Gore, most were first handled at the state level before begin escalated to federal and then scotus and one sub-issue they just agreed to take up immediately themselves along with at the same time dealing with the selective recount issue\bs.

  13. 2020 November 17 9:20 am

    stephen-kruiser @PJM is apparently unaware that Trump’s state of residence is not NY anymore.

  14. 2020 November 17 9:27 am

    re:noqreport article
    “In Texas Holdem poker, getting an ugly win is better than getting a bad beat. An ugly win is when one bets heavily when they shouldn’t based on the cards they’re holding when they bet, but luck plays out and they beat the odds in the end. A bad beat is being on the losing end of such a play.

    Apparently the author doesn’t know that’s not what a bad beat is in Hold’em. Wanted to stop reading article there, anyway the article is basically saying the same thing Dersh did in a different article 2 days ago.

  15. 2020 November 17 9:30 am
    mpt permalink

    Interesting thread of tweets here:

    Basically states the MSM slant on the Georgia recount is wrong and even the recount should be invalidated as the President is requesting. As described, the Georgia legislature in 2019 passed a law that relaxed some standards involving mail-in ballots with mismatching signatures. Whereby a provisional ballot is cast, but must be cured with proper ID within a set period of time. Governor Kemp, independent of the legislature, then entered into a consent decree that made enforcement of the law effectively impossible to enforce at a practical level. The basis of Trumps legal arguments here is that the Governor does not have the power to enter into such a consent decree and that the rules around mismatched signatures must be enforced as dictated in the law passed by the Georgia legislature.

    To me, an absolute non-lawyer, this seems like a very sound argument. For a Governor, regardless of party, to play footsies with special interests to circumvent the authority of the legislature seems something courts would be dubious of. However, I think the counter-argument could prevail in that the consent decree didn’t circumvent the law as it is still “theoretically” possible a mismatching signature could be rejected, thus the law is being upheld.

    I guess this is one that must be kicked up the chain of higher courts if the lower courts side with the Dims on this.

  16. 2020 November 17 9:40 am
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “We are in the early stages of American totalitarianism. This could become our 1948. Will Americans need to experience 41 years of communism to finally feel non-compliant? If so, what comes next will be so much worse than anything that ever took place in the former communist lands. The tools in the hands of the technocrats are so much more total than the very effective and far more manual tools that the communists of the last century had at their disposal.

    Friends, we are at a pivotal moment in history. We, who are lucky enough to live in this moment are being called on to rise up and play a role in this great epic that is about to play out.

    Welcome to the epic that other generations could only have dreamt of. You think the Revolutionary War was special? Or that World War 2 was special? This moment, is the most special moment in all of American history. It is not on a battlefield. It is not in a foreign land. It is in our minds, in our hearts, and in our homes.

    Before so many of our clergy became such whiners, a pope once wrote: “Let us thank God that He makes us live among the present problems. It is no longer permitted to anyone to be mediocre.””

  17. 2020 November 17 9:45 am
    gnqanq permalink

    From #1 by drdog

    “This strategy is not to “flip” contested states from Joe Biden to President Trump. It’s designed to invalidate enough votes to prevent electors from being selected, thus keeping Biden below the 270 Electoral College threshold. If that sounds ugly, it’s because it is. If it sounds risky, you’re hearing correctly. If the election is essentially voided, it goes to the House of Representatives to select the President and the Senate to select the Vice-President.”

    I believe that the Democrats from day 1 believed they could steal the election. BUT IF they could not, they would accept going to the House. Nancy has said this in the past that they would be more than willing to entertain it. Worst case for the democrats is Trump wins BUT is delegitimized in the process. Like 2000, Trump is SELECTED not elected. Biden had more votes etc. 4 more years of the same nonsense.

    At this point, we are buying time. The country is split and we are all waiting for someone to trip the wire which sets it all off.

    Look around the Globe and how all the elite are talking “Global Reset”. If you don’t know what this means, look it up. More and more people are waking up to what the Global Elite are planning. Not going to end well.

  18. 2020 November 17 10:03 am
    drdog09 permalink

    “Look around the Globe and how all the elite are talking “Global Reset”. ”

    Been hearing that for years. My usual come back is go for it, but realize that the throne you sit on now maybe occupied by someone else when it is all over. It is the 2 revolutions paradigm history teaches me. Even America did not escape that paradigm. Fact we had 3 revolutions to get to our present state of governance.

    There is of course the economic factor. It is late in man’s history that we have used markers (USD, Yen, &, etc) for value. Before then it was gold and silver, wool and barley. Well the markers gave the governments control of the money. But now with gold, silver and bitcoin that control may in fact be wrested from them yet again. If that happens then the ‘Great Reset’ does not eliminate the globalists but dents their ability to control economic events.

  19. 2020 November 17 10:22 am
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #19 I concur…..but it is not going to end well for whom?

    If we all sit on our @rse and take this it will end bad for us and great for the crimnal elites

  20. 2020 November 17 10:24 am

    19 – I’m fine with the selected not elected bs tbh, not that I think it will happen but I’m fine with it. It buys some more time as you said, no telling what could happen in the those years, or what things is staves off from happening during a Harris administration.

  21. 2020 November 17 10:26 am
    mpt permalink

    The greatest mistake the left could do is create an enemy with nothing to lose. Amazingly, that seems exactly what they are intending to do.

  22. 2020 November 17 10:36 am

  23. 2020 November 17 10:37 am
    justrand permalink

    In any old movie about a kidnapping, the kidnapper always keeps his or her face covered when around the victim. Why? Because unless they intend to kill the kidnap victim, they want to be able to get the ransom, let the victim go, and escape.

    BUT, if the kidnapper in the movie lets the victim see them, then you know the kidnapper fully intends to kill the victim.

    In the past the Democrats/media/Socialists (and other Leftists) always “kept their face covered”. The pretense was always that they could say ANYTHING to get elected or gain power by keeping us in the dark as to who and what they REALLY were.

    Now the Democrats/media/Socialists (and other Leftists) have dropped all pretense. When Obama declared he was going to “Fundamentally transform the United States of America”, the media quickly buried the quote and explained it away when they couldn’t.

    Now, as noted, the Democrats/media/Socialists (and other Leftists) are BRAGGING about the coming “Global Reset”.

    WE are the “kidnap victim” in this scenario…and they no longer care if we see their TRUE face.

  24. 2020 November 17 10:51 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Want to see who Biden is considering for cabinet posts? —

  25. 2020 November 17 11:02 am

    Black Votes Matter already starting harvesting operations here, back to back days I’ve gotten texts from them asking if I want my jan5th ballot mailed to me.

  26. 2020 November 17 11:04 am
    Eph permalink

    We should get the official word that PA is done very soon.

  27. 2020 November 17 11:06 am
    Eph permalink

  28. 2020 November 17 11:10 am

    The Michigan State Court of Appeals on Nov. 16 denied an emergency appeal filed by a group that sought a court order to audit the 2020 election.

    Michael Riordan, the presiding judge on the appeals court, wrote that the appeal request “is DENIED for failure to persuade the Court of the existence of manifest error requiring reversal.”
    If we don’t allow you to look to find anything, or do so ourselves, than you can’t prove anything to our satisfaction. fking circular. 🙂

    Guess the case has started in PA in the last hour.

  29. 2020 November 17 11:49 am

    But voting fraud doesn’t happen case # 56,211

    Montenegro allegedly submitted more than 8,000 fraudulent voter registration applications between July and October 2020. Montenegro also is accused of falsifying names, addresses and signatures on nomination papers under penalty of perjury to run for mayor in the city of Hawthorne.

    The District Attorney did not specify which political party the duo intended to help.

  30. 2020 November 17 11:55 am

    The black robed oligarchs will win it for biteme.

    Ditto for the scotus oligarchs.

  31. 2020 November 17 12:20 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    JR – #25, so true. But we are not alone.

    My daughter tells me, “Dad, it was you and some of your friends with uncle Bob who use to think like that (decades ago). That you were alone, that you were in Kansas with just a handful going to face the onslaught of the Deep State. But you are not, more and more people are coming to the same conclusion that you came to decades ago. You are not in Kansas any more BUT Times Square”

    So guys, we are not alone. Regardless of what they do to limit communication and limit our ability to reach out – we are not alone.

  32. 2020 November 17 12:58 pm
    justrand permalink

    gnqanq, thank you for that!

    no, we’re not alone…but the enticements of “free stuff”, the seduction of Social media, and rise of the REAL Ministry of Truth, makes our task harder.

  33. 2020 November 17 1:10 pm
    Eph permalink


    Good luck the next 3 weeks…

  34. 2020 November 17 1:13 pm
    Eph permalink

    Sidney Powell… RIP (your career)

  35. 2020 November 17 1:15 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Lets play out a scenario that some are thinking about…..

    * The ‘Great Reset’ will involve the use of the CoVid crisis as cover. Good chance Biden’s minions are already planning that move.
    * They say 6-8 weeks. But lets say just like before, that is not enough. So it goes 6 months. Do they really think anything will exist at the end of that time?
    * 6 months. TPTB are thinking they can just print checks to cover it all? Well ok they print the money. The Fed has to cover it. To cover the Fed issues T Bills. Or should I say will try to. Only this time its different; nobody wants the TBills. Then what?

    I’ll tell you what, the Great Crash happens or the Treasury stops issuing scrip. That is when the whole thing comes to a halt. CoVid will be out of mind. People will be concerned about the necessities — food and shelter. The govt won’t be able to deliver it — they have no money remember.

    Its back to fundamentals.

  36. 2020 November 17 1:33 pm

    Dewine logic on OH 10pm statewide curfew (which should be flat out ignored).

  37. 2020 November 17 2:06 pm
    Eph permalink


    Wont be ignored

    Fear of Harris/Biden admin

    -The King is still here!

  38. 2020 November 17 2:10 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    KH – now I have a reason to be out after 10:00 PM. Sure puts a dapper on those 2:00 AM wake calls on the elites.

  39. 2020 November 17 2:15 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Wylie, 18, inspirational!

  40. 2020 November 17 2:18 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    20, “realize that the throne you sit on now maybe occupied by someone else when it is all over”

    Yep, like in cartoon (comment #2) “if you don’t like the gov’t, build your own!” (realizes what he just said …) Ulp!

  41. 2020 November 17 2:40 pm
    justrand permalink

    drdog: “The Fed has to cover it. To cover the Fed issues T Bills. Or should I say will try to. Only this time its different; nobody wants the TBills. Then what?”

    I still think/fear that if the Democrats take the White House and the Senate (already having the House) they will attempt to Nationalize all IRAs and 401ks. There is upwards of $16 TRILLION sitting there. Several countries have done it, and yes, it crashed the economy of each. BUT, the Democrats will posit that THEY can do it “correctly”.

    I know, it’s a Doomsday scenario…but it would not surprise me. If they started talking seriously about it then people like me would take every penny out and buy gold, silver and other assets. Therefore, if they were gonna do it, I think they would have Biden declare a “Banking Hoiliday”, and THEN gut the 401ks and IRAs.

    I know, drdog, you’ve talked me down off this ledge before…but I’m back out there 🙂

  42. 2020 November 17 2:48 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    gnqanq: “more and more people are coming to the same conclusion that you came to decades ago”

    Yeah, lots of regular folks are waking up. No way to tell if it’ll be enough. But no reason to whine yet.

  43. 2020 November 17 2:49 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    An example of what I was alluding to in #20 — — Glint. Payment system linked to gold that can be immediately transferred to any other currency or paid in gold. The only bit I think is missing is not including BTC. (Am not endorsing, just pointing out alternatives.)

    Glint, PayPal, BTC, Euthrium, etc, are all alternative payment and monetary systems gaining traction. The point being that sovereign money maybe on the way out. Think of it another way. The USD is not a store of value, its a debt instrument. Says so right on the notes. Glint IS a store of value, the question is have they earned sufficient trust to use it?

  44. 2020 November 17 2:58 pm

    New: a memory card
    was found during the “audit” in Fayette county with 2,755 votes. Decreased
    Biden statewide lead by 449. New margin total statewide in GA is a
    12,929 lead for Biden


  45. 2020 November 17 2:59 pm
    TLS permalink

  46. 2020 November 17 2:59 pm
    TLS permalink

    KH obviously types faster than I do 😉

  47. 2020 November 17 3:01 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    JR, you are not going to believe this — that is the old way of thinking. Back in the days when it was considered prudent to work a balanced budget seizure was an old stand by bantered around for that rainy day. But no worries my friend, MMT is here to save the day! There is no need to seize bank accounts according to MMT you just print all the money you want so long as the money stays in the US.

    Being who we are, we know better. But you know, sometimes it is worthwhile to let your adversary have their delusional dreams, damn the consequences. But if I hear rumblings I would pull the cord to what I listed in #47.

    PS: Printing all that money is a way to steal yours and mine without the hassle of lawsuits and bank seizures.

  48. 2020 November 17 3:03 pm
    Eph permalink

    48 49

    Let me know when they find 30k votes

  49. 2020 November 17 3:09 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    How the HELL do you ‘find’ something?’.

    What that really tells me is that the SoE does not maintain a paper tally sheet of the date of issue, to whom, date of return, from whom, location deployed, tally machine serial # and the UUID of the drive. Damn sloppy you ask me.

    But par for the course for a brain dead govt employee.

  50. 2020 November 17 3:16 pm

    52 – haha almost didn’t bother posting it for just that sort of reason, but figured it was worth noting from the standpoint of …yet another point of failure\exploit in the process. transfering\tracking memory cards involved. Goes again to show we go out of our way to make this more complicated than it needs to be.

  51. 2020 November 17 3:19 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    “If they started talking seriously about it then people like me would take every penny out and buy gold, silver and other assets.” – JR

    JR – I remember hearing from one of the people I listen to on Gold/Silver that around 2% of the public buys Gold/Silver. They once commented that IF only those who buy Gold/Silver were to double prices would go through the roof and it would be nearly impossible to get.

    Now given what you are suggesting (Nationalization of IRA’s and other Retirement Plans), which the Democrats have themselves mentioned in the past. It is over.

    Best to do that now while it is available. Same can be said for any real assets (TP, food, water, etc).

    From an interview Bill Holter gave to Greg Hunter ( at the end of October.

    How high can gold go considering exploding federal debt and a Federal Reserve balance sheet that doubled to more than $7 trillion in a little more than a year? Holter does the astounding and yet simple math. Holter explains, “The number is over $100,000 per ounce for gold now. If you take the 260 million ounces that we (U.S. Treasury) supposedly have and take the 260 million ounces and divide it into the current debt which is $27 trillion, it’s well over $100,000 per ounce now. In other words, if we had to back our debt in gold, the gold would have to be priced at over $100,000 per ounce.”
    JR, your scenario where Democrats spend even more. $100,000 per ounce would be an under statement. The sky is the limit, IF you could find it. Currently, Gold is going for $1,890.00 per ounce, plus/minus. $1,890.00 vs $100,000.00

    Take a look at the Debt Clock, Dollar to Gold Now – $32,794 per ounce, Dollar to Silver Now – $4,302 per ounce.

    Hard assets!

  52. 2020 November 17 3:20 pm

    watch-sen-lindsey-graham-gives-kamala-harris-fist-bump-senate-floor EPH

    Pickle puffers of a feather, flock together.

  53. 2020 November 17 4:44 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Some are saying silver could go over $1000 per under the right circumstances.

  54. 2020 November 17 5:00 pm
    mpt permalink

    Serious question. In a “shit hits the fan” scenario and gold shoots to $100K per ounce, would us peons be allowed to keep our gold? I remember my grandfather telling stories of hiding gold coins in the framing of his father’s house in the 1930’s.

  55. 2020 November 17 5:27 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    drdog – given that the Gold to Silver ratio has been running 70 to 1 to 80 to 1 – $1,000.00 an ounce is not out of reason given $100,000.00 an ounce Gold. I heard one person say, God’s ratio is 10 to 1. For every ounce of Gold mined, there is 10 ounces of silver mined out of the ground. And yes, I have heard some investors say they could see Silver go to $1,000.00 an ounce. Not bad for buying it now for under $25.00 an ounce. The Gold to Silver ratio is out of whack. Currently, silver should be about $100.00 an ounce with Gold sitting at $1,900.00 an ounce ($1,900.00/20 = $94.50 at a 20:1 ratio)

    mpt – Back in the 30’s when FDR called in the Gold. I believe Gold went from $20.00 an ounce before and during the call in to $35.00 an ounce afterwards. FDR and the Federal Government revalued Gold from $20.00 an ounce to $35.00 an ounce after they had called in the gold. If they can, they will do it again (recalling Gold and Silver).

    Very much what drdog said about printing money. It hides inflation while devaluing the dollar. The dollar has gone from being worth 100 pennies in 1913 to about 1 to 2 cents today. Thus why hard assets – food, water, drugs, gold, silver or any other real tangible item.

    For the kicker, I heard John Williams of shadowstats state that inflation from 1600 to 1913 (when the world was on the gold standard) was about 3% over the entire time. Yet in 100 years of having the federal reserve, we have seen the dollar be devalued to 1 to 2 cents.

  56. 2020 November 17 5:31 pm
    justrand permalink

    Just watched a NewsMax interview with Sidney Powell. She is not backing down from ANYTHING.

    She’s either delusional or she’s got the goods…there’s no middle ground.

  57. 2020 November 17 5:57 pm
    TLS permalink

    I’m sure the state board will fold but this was unexpected:

    This evening, the county board of canvassers in Wayne County, MI refused to certify the election results. If the state board follows suit, the Republican state legislator will select the electors. Huge win for @realDonaldTrump

  58. 2020 November 17 5:58 pm
    Eph permalink

    62 Rand

    Wheres the single malt???

    Ill let you figure what that means

    The King 👑

  59. 2020 November 17 5:59 pm
    Eph permalink

    63 TLS

    Temporary win for T

    Biden wins

    – I am the King!

  60. 2020 November 17 6:02 pm
    TLS permalink

    Eph, If they have proof of this, that’s 2. Only 548,651,123 more needed!

    The Trump Campaign held a press conference in Nevada on Tuesday.

    During the presser former Attorney General of the state Adam Laxalt said over 15,000 people voted in Nevada and another state.

  61. 2020 November 17 6:07 pm
    Eph permalink


    Nevada has been dirty for the past 20+ years

    A ton of CA homos relocated there.

    Nuff said

  62. 2020 November 17 6:11 pm
    TLS permalink

    Eph, yes, I’m aware. No other way Harry Reid ever got elected.

  63. 2020 November 17 6:12 pm
    mpt permalink

    For the kicker, I heard John Williams of shadowstats state that inflation from 1600 to 1913 (when the world was on the gold standard) was about 3% over the entire time. Yet in 100 years of having the federal reserve, we have seen the dollar be devalued to 1 to 2 cents.

    I recall reading somewhere that a good horse cost about the same in 1876 as a good horse cost in 1776.

  64. 2020 November 17 6:15 pm
    mpt permalink

    She’s either delusional or she’s got the goods…there’s no middle ground.

    Have the online betting sites given numbers for this yet. 🙁

  65. 2020 November 17 6:20 pm
    mpt permalink

    This evening, the county board of canvassers in Wayne County, MI refused to certify the election results. If the state board follows suit, the Republican state legislator will select the electors. Huge win for @realDonaldTrump

    The wrath of whatever deities the lefties believe in is surely descending on these two board members tonight. Pray that God protects them.

  66. 2020 November 17 6:28 pm
    TLS permalink

    I’m sure Biden will go back to barriers around the Nat’l Monuments (if they aren’t torn down) but for now, sanity prevails:

    Donald J. Trump
    I have reversed the ridiculous decision to cancel Wreaths Across America at Arlington National Cemetery. It will now go on!
    12:47 PM · Nov 17, 2020

  67. 2020 November 17 6:30 pm
    mpt permalink

    Sidney Powell just tweeted the following link saying: The statistical analysis cannot be refuted.

    The charts show that after a specific time on the morning of 11/4, both PA and GA simultaneously stopped all trace of shifts between Trump/Biden to only a constant shift for Biden thereafter. Apparently, such a clean shutoff in the shifts is nearly statistically impossible.

    The only thing that I would suggest pokes holes in this is the data is from a NY Times election feed which could be argued is not an “official” data feed. It would be stronger to go back examine the numbers from the official feeds (if they are available) and see if the same analysis holds true.

  68. 2020 November 17 6:36 pm
    TLS permalink

    Nevada heating up. Looks like the earlier posted article about depriving Biden of 270 may be on track.

    Native Americans were encouraged to vote with alleged “incentives,”like gift cards, gas cards, raffle entires and t-shirts. According to the campaign, the Nevada Native Vote Project pushed the incentives heavily on social media. In some of the online images, personnel from the NNVP were allegedly wearing Biden-Harris garb and encouraging people to support the Democratic candidate.

    As of now, the voting totals between former Vice President Joe Biden and President Donald Trump are 33,596. The Trump campaign believes these votes can make a difference. They’re asking for the court to declare Trump the winner or to completely throw out all votes from the state and have no presidential candidate certified from the state of Nevada.

  69. 2020 November 17 6:39 pm
    mpt permalink

    In addition to halt in shifts between candidates, Biden was given allotments of ballots in multiples of ~6500 ballots in PA and about ~4800 ballots in GA. Very sloppy job…

  70. 2020 November 17 6:44 pm
    TLS permalink

    Another article on Michigan, but more just a side rant abut the state of journalism~ it would be helpful to know how much the “dependency” in totals is so that later when the next guy is quoted as saying “out of balance by small number of ballots”, the reader would know who’s full of $h!t.

    In particular, Monica Palmer, the Republican chair of the committee, took issue with discrepancies in the county’s 43 precincts, in particular the fact that the number of absentee ballots counted verses received were not the same.

    “I believe that we do not have complete and accurate information on those poll books,” Palmer said.


    “In similar circumstances in the past, state canvassers have appointed the Bureau of Elections to carry out the processes of canvassing the vote and voter totals. The Bureau stands ready to fulfill this duty and we expect this will address clerical errors and improve the quality of the canvass overall. It is common for some precincts in Michigan and across the country to be out of balance by a small number of votes, especially when turnout is high. Importantly, this is not an indication that any voters were improperly cast or counted.”

  71. 2020 November 17 7:18 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Leftist scum put out call for violence against R’s in Wayne CO MI:

    “Trump campaign attorney Jenna Ellis with the bottom line, “BREAKING: This evening, the county board of canvassers in Wayne County, MI refused to certify the election results. If the state board follows suit, the Republican state legislator will select the electors. Huge win for @realDonaldTrump”

    UPDATEL The left has put a hit out on the Republican Wayne County election canvassers who voted against certifying a corrupt vote, “Looks like @monicaspalmer and @HartmannDude don’t want Michigan to certify votes of Black voters. Make them famous.””

  72. 2020 November 17 7:22 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Washington Generals gonna Washington General.

    Politics1 com @Politics1com

    MICHIGAN. State Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey (R) says Joe Biden is President-elect and that the Republican-majority state legislature will not award the state’s electoral votes to Pres Trump: “Not going to happen.”

    Backing up my theory that the majority of that party is nothing but corrupt cowards.

  73. 2020 November 17 7:31 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Election expert says that Biden’s spikes of voters where “physically impossible” because the election counting machines literally can’t process votes that fast!

    “Russ Ramsland: We have been out looking mostly at Michigan. We are beginning on turning our sights on Pennsylvania and Georgia. The things you find in Michigan are amazing. There are over 3,000 precincts where the presidential votes cast compared to the estimated voters from the SOS (Secretary of State) is 99% all the way up to 350%. Those kind of numbers don’t exist in the real world. So where did all those votes come from? And looking at that, we’ve gone back and looked at some of these huge vote dumps that were mostly Biden’s. We call them spikes. We’ve gone back and traced the spikes. We’ve seen where they were cast, primarily in four counties. We looked at how long it took to cast those votes. And we looked at the equipment that exists at all of those locations by serial number.

    And the fact of the matter is we can’t see any physical way possible for some of those votes to have been in those kind of numbers because they just don’t have the equipment that can produce it in that timing.”

  74. 2020 November 17 7:35 pm
    Eph permalink

    79 WEC

    $10 says he has young children at home

  75. 2020 November 17 7:46 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    So, you go into the booth and vote for whomever. The dominion machine then spits out a paper ballot with a QR code.

    You take that over to the station with the dumpster looking thing, then insert your paper ballot.

    It takes about 90 seconds to scan and then you see the “votes” counter on the dumpster increment by one.

    So for each one of those dumpsters at a polling place, they can process around 40 ballots an hour. Do the math. Do you believe in math or not?

    They (the fraudsters) did 138,000 ballots in 1 hour. Assuming 50 machines, that is about 46/minute per machine.

    Not possible.

    #81 Yes, could be blackmail or could be a threat that a BLM or Antifa “hit squad” is headed his way……but we are talking about our freedom…..does he think he will be spared the Gulag after the commies get full power? Methinks not!

  76. 2020 November 17 7:59 pm
    Eph permalink

    Breaking news…

    Trump gains 6 votes in Las Cruces, NM

  77. 2020 November 17 8:14 pm
    mpt permalink

    Sounds like Wayne County, MI canvassing board just voted 4-0 to certify the results, but on the provision the SOS conducts an independent audit of questionable precincts. Not sure if this is a win in that it forced an audit or if an audit after certification is a big nothing burger.

  78. 2020 November 17 8:18 pm

    “She’s either delusional or she’s got the goods…there’s no middle ground.”

    Goods or not, the courts will just ignore it. (Reichstag fire/ paid off judges etc etc).

  79. 2020 November 17 8:20 pm
    Eph permalink

    All these states are complete tire fires.

    No court will touch any of then

    Well played dems.

  80. 2020 November 17 8:28 pm

    Sorry I won’t live long enough to see this crap rectified, but this kind of perfidy usually corrects itself.

  81. 2020 November 17 8:38 pm
    Eph permalink


    I get nervous everytime you refer to yourself going tits up.

  82. 2020 November 17 10:23 pm
    mpt permalink

    Lin Wood just tweeted the following:

    I have irrefutable evidence that GA local election officials were instructed by state to report original vote totals & NOT report recount totals which are different.

    These people are corrupt to point of criminality. They are intentionally engaged in fraud in a federal election.

    WTF??? This is getting crazy. Would a rational attorney say this without actual proof? If he has proof, put it out there. This whole drip, drip, drip is driving me nuts.

  83. 2020 November 17 10:48 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “She doesn’t use the term Great Reset but she is talking the agenda.

    It is an attack on free markets and liberty to be replaced by a ruling central power.

    It is an attempt at global elitist control.

    Focusing on short-term returns has “distorted the market.” Here’s why @HillaryClinton thinks it’s time to carve out a new path for capitalism. #OurNewEconomy
    — Bloomberg New Economy Forum (@neweconforum) November 18, 2020

    That Hillary is now publicly promoting the plan suggests that the elitists are ready to make their move.

    If they succeed in their diabolical plan, Nobel Prize economist Friedrich Hayek’s title of one of his books, “The Road to Serfdom,” will be all too appropriate to characterize what is going on.

    We are in the most dangerous period ever for free markets and liberty. They could be lost for decades if not ever.”

  84. 2020 November 18 1:36 am
    Eph permalink


    Amazing how every day T’s people scream lounder and louder without results.

  85. 2020 November 18 1:39 am
    Eph permalink

  86. 2020 November 18 5:08 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    Via Tito Purow. On Gab.

  87. 2020 November 18 6:00 am
    drdog09 permalink

    CA or NY?

  88. 2020 November 18 6:05 am
    drdog09 permalink

    And in case you missed the joke, here’s a hint –

  89. 2020 November 18 7:05 am
    justrand permalink

    the “performances” of Twitter and Facebook CEOs “before” Congress (it was all video-conference) was chilling. They.Do.NOT.Give.A.Fu@k.


    THEY are THE power in the world now…and they KNOW it. They own enough Congress-critters to ensure NOTHING is ever done to them.

  90. 2020 November 18 8:02 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    95, still too obscure.
    I know T’giving is illegal in NY and CA. And some police won’t enforce.
    These guys seized a turkey? And some money? One guy is undercover, like a drug deal?

  91. 2020 November 18 8:14 am

    Supreme Court is next~~EPH

    That means (they won’t take it up)we are done, just like we knew 24 hrs after election day.

  92. 2020 November 18 8:39 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Pete, tell user 97 what he has won behind door number 3!

    Why our undying admiration for recognizing the parody that it is. It is indeed a jab at the stupid assembly laws that are being enforced ‘for the public good’. Not quite on par with Bablylon Bee but I like it. Only thing missing were a turkey baster and pot holders as exhibits as ‘drug paraphernalia’.

  93. 2020 November 18 9:08 am
    Eph permalink

    C note

    A lot of those lately !

  94. 2020 November 18 10:03 am

    82 – It didn’t take 90 seconds in my case, not even close. It took about 30 seconds to scan.

  95. 2020 November 18 10:06 am

    84 – Useless.. they are now certified. The rest is bullshit sideshow that watch will never happen.

  96. 2020 November 18 10:39 am

    So for each one of those dumpsters at a polling place, they can process around 40 ballots an hour. Do the math. Do you believe in math or not?

    There were 45 votes in my pct about 30 minutes into voting on voting day, 18 on one scanner and 27 on the second (the one I used), and that’s with zero lines to actually use either. The person claiming 40 ballots an hour is feeding bullshit, it’s at least 120 per system (30sec ea) and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was actually more like 150-180ph (20seconds) and my own sense of wait time was off. That or they’re talking about entirely different gear in use, but the “dumpster” pics from wayne and philly I’ve seen all look like the same “dumpters” in use in GA.

    I contend they stole GA just as they intended too, with injecting enough ballots to do so, namely by harvesting absentees of those they’ve injected into the rolls in 2018 and this cycle, and ballots in general, (and yes probably some late night printing in Fulton of biden only absentee ballots). Any “glitches” or Dominion manipulation were just icing on the cake. They will do it exactly the same way here for the run off… Already I’ve got 3 texts in 3 days asking me if I want someone else (“black lives vote”) to request my absentee ballot for jan5th be sent to me, the D groups here are in overdrive already.

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