What If ….

2020 November 15
by drdog09
  • Trump knows something we don’t but cannot release it due to NatSec restrictions.
  • That the election debacles is a foreign op by a member of 5 Eyes in concert with a political party.
  • The Dominion software platform has been the vehicle to manipulate the national elections for the last 3 cycles.
  • The CoVid virus is being used as an enhancement vehicle for the fixing of the election.

….. knowing this Trump would be justified for not leaving the WH in a last ditch effort to save the Republic.

Most critical of all, if POTUS executes an illegal document dump that proves all this –

Would you heed the call?

121 Responses leave one →
  1. 2020 November 15 4:39 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    A conversation:

    “What’s the deal with GA Senate candidate Loeffler?”

    “Loeffler has close ties to CCP through her husband and the stock exchange. Has an Andy Warhol pic of Xi in her home. Was not the Trump choice for Georgia but Kemp appointed her anyways. She’s tied into Stacey Abrams, too. Too close to Isakson also, IIRC and you know what that implies.
    On the plus side, she has been pretty loyal to Trump or at least his policies, and Kemp is the one that screwed up the appointment plans (who would succeed who to retain the seats). Kemp will NOT be reelected. I’m not sure he could even survive a primary.”

    “So … only 100x better than the Dem.”

  2. 2020 November 15 5:19 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Never assume that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

  3. 2020 November 15 5:30 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Many a lawyers has opined – The fine print is there for your edification whether you read it now or later. Since the Dims don’t believe in the power of the written word they figure there is no need to read the USC. —

    Section 4:
    Elections The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof;

    Which begats this — https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/11/14/judge-rules-newsoms-mail-ballot-order-was-illegal-n2580104

    My gripe is why did the plaintiffs not file for emergency injunctive relief? At this point the cat has already ate the mouse. All these edicts issued by SoE’s are going to be overturned.

  4. 2020 November 15 5:55 am
    drdog09 permalink

    If this post seems a little dull (its not really) then read this one. — https://ncrenegade.com/editorial/the-2020-election-took-place-under-a-trump-declared-national-emergency-that-set-an-election-day-trap-for-the-unauthorized-accessing-of-election-and-campaign-infrastructure/ — If you heed the call, you will have to break the law.

    I have come to realize too late why DJT has been able to run rings around the Dims. He’s using the Reagan Playbook. — ‘I know what they do because I used to be one.’ Some are calling it 4D chess, but is it when you know what they think beforehand? I can hear your mind saying, ‘Nah can’t be’. To which I reply, read the EO.


    And note the date. That seizure in Germany? All authorized. Trump knew then the Dims would attempt something.

  5. 2020 November 15 6:20 am
    bc3b permalink

    Has anyone else considered this?

    Whenever a party uses all the tactics to steal votes that the Democrats did in 2020, there’s a good chance of getting caught.

    In 2016, the Democrats believed the fake polls and thought they would legitimately win the presidency so they just resorted to their usual level of cheating. Had they realized Trump’s strength, they would have manufactured enough votes in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia/Pittsburgh to win Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

  6. 2020 November 15 6:42 am
    drdog09 permalink


    The only thing I can suggest is — If the Dims are stupid enough to believe their own push polling by their surrogates they deserve to lose.

  7. 2020 November 15 7:07 am
    justrand permalink

    Watching NewsMax this morning (no more FoxNews for me) while exercising, a good point was brought up as to why we haven’t seen the “evidence” yet: according to Trump’s team (Guiliani, et al) they need to get a hand count down that they can then compare the machine manipulated count against. And the contention is that the manipulation was done when the “results” were transmitted, so the paper ballots (unless themselves fraudulent) will tell a different story from the manipulated “results”.

    I’m beginning to think Trump might really have the goods.


  8. 2020 November 15 7:13 am
    Eph permalink

    7 Rand

    I was just about to say that.

    Dominican is the smoking gun.

    All it took was an Indian preossor from MIT

  9. 2020 November 15 7:14 am
    Eph permalink


    I hate auto correct

  10. 2020 November 15 8:07 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    Are purchase limits returning? If so, let’s review what we learned back in March:

    “What’s more important is that purchase limits spread viruses. Shoppers are forced to go from store to store to assemble all of their supplies, and every store becomes much more crowded as people are forced to spend much more time in all of the various stores than without the shortages.
    Purchase limits CREATE tens of millions of superspreader events continuously across the whole country. With the entire country involved in waves of infections (as opposed to just a few limited areas like we had last spring) they would be catastrophic.”

  11. 2020 November 15 8:25 am
    Eph permalink

  12. 2020 November 15 9:22 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Already seen purchase limits on a few items at the market I frequent.

  13. 2020 November 15 9:46 am
    mpt permalink

    And the contention is that the manipulation was done when the “results” were transmitted, so the paper ballots (unless themselves fraudulent) will tell a different story from the manipulated “results”.

    This is one of the points I was trying to make yesterday. Sorry if I wasn’t too clear.

    Even if the “usual” fraudulent ballot-stuffing ballots are counted in the recount, the recount itself should show a fairly large discrepancy between what is captured in each precinct on paper and what was tabulated. This is assuming that there was a man-in-the-middle attack on the vote count. From a statistical perspective, such an attack is reasonably certain, but not 100%. From a numerical perspective, it is possible Biden performed as he did in the swing states, just very unlikely. The recounts should be very effective in red areas where there is likely a consistent shaving of votes from Trump to Biden.

    The irony of this whole thing is that the Dems used a wide variety of tactics to shift the election. Illegal vote harvesting, ballot stuffing, dead/unlikely voters, etc… It would be ironic if these old-fashioned mechanisms for stealing the election would have pulled Biden across the line, but they got greedy and introduced this new mechanism into the mix which is detectable with a simple recount. Then the whole house-of-cards collapses because of the extra scrutiny it brings once a pattern of cheating is identified.

  14. 2020 November 15 10:41 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    If you know a less-informed person who asks “C’mon man, would Dems REALLY cheat in an election?”

    Well, Dems are openly advocating cheating in the Georgia Senate runoffs.

    Plus, this posted on the prev thread is a notable head scratcher–
    Pollster: It’s Curious How Biden Underperformed Hillary Clinton In Every City…Except These Four. “Trump won the largest non-white vote share for a Republican presidential candidate in 60 years. Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.”

  15. 2020 November 15 11:16 am
    mpt permalink

    Most critical of all, if POTUS executes an illegal document dump that proves all this

    This is a good question as I feel that is the biggest issue that is slowing the whole thing down. I’m not certain if it’s possible for the President to “illegally” de-classify and release information. However, it may require a lot of prudence for the following reasons:

    Releasing the information and how it was gathered could drag the military and the intelligence agencies into a highly partisan election. Do so is fraught with going against long-standing precedence — for good reasons. Even Trump supporters in the military may be reluctant to allow such a move, even if it seems it is being done for all the right reasons (ie. I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic).

    The release of strong proof should be done with the intention of not just convincing Trump voters of something they already feel has happened, but it really needs to be done in a way that will convince at least 20% to 50% of the Biden voters. Not being careful could drive this nation into another Civil War.

    Dragging foreign countries (ie. the 5 Eye nations you mentioned) also has to be done very carefully. It could open up a pandora’s box of issues if it is discovered that Dominion, Scytl, and other such companies were a vector used by both US and foreign nations to influence elections in the past. Wars have been started for less.

    There are probably a host of other issues as well, but just those listed above could be why the Trump Administration is being so careful. Even if it is to the frustration of his supporters.

  16. 2020 November 15 12:20 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    What you opine is likely true to a tee.

    I would observe that there are most likely procedures even the POTUS is required to follow, aka documents. Hence the need for SKIFs. As to dealing with other nations, John Adams had a warning on that, and we should probably get out of the business. Blowing it up would be a way to end it. As to a civil war, we are already in it. When one side is already drawing up lists its time to realize that fact.

    Just observing.

  17. 2020 November 15 1:01 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Is back online

  18. 2020 November 15 1:06 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    CTH, however …

    One week after the 2020 presidential election, The Conservative Treehouse received the following notification:

    …”given the incompatibility between your site’s content and our terms, you need to find a new hosting provider and must migrate the site by Wednesday, December 2nd.”

  19. 2020 November 15 1:26 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    This page has various links at the bottom.
    Only one link has an individual’s name.

    If you click it, you get here https://ma.tt and see this.
    “I sincerely hope that all the people moving to new places are registering to vote in their new home, as I did when I moved from San Francisco back to Houston in 2011. The following year was 2012 and in Harris County (Houston) with 4.263 million people, Obama won by 585 votes. I was one of those votes.”

  20. 2020 November 15 1:33 pm
    mpt permalink

    Trump knows something we don’t but cannot release it due to NatSec restrictions.

    Another thought I have is whether disclosure would be tied to a court case. As KnightHawk described yesterday, he was skeptical there would be a press conference where Trump and his team come out with guns blazing and incontrovertible proof on full display. As satisfying such a spectacle would be to his supporters, KnightHawk is right and this is almost certainly not going to be the case.

    Instead, the “Kraken” will probably be buried in a complex set of legal arguments and affidavits filed in relation to one or more key court cases with the intent, at a minimum, force a hand recount of a state or delay certification past the Dec 8, safe harbor date. If so, this would probably mean disclosure of the cards Trump holds will have to wait until things are before the Supreme Court, which could still be a while.

    Or, are there any cases coming up soon? I’ve seen rumors a PA case is hitting the SCOTUS on Tuesday, but I’m not sure. I presume this would be the same case that split 4-4 before the election, was kicked to post-election review and ACB would now be able to rule on.

    BTW, did anyone catch this recent video by Viva Frei regarding the Michigan court case being tossed out?


    It’s a pretty tough watch for a Trump supporter, but a good reality check. The GOP lawyers who brought this case were clearly not the brightest and they are going up an entrenched machine that has decades of experience swatting such challenges away. If anything else, the GOP has to get MUCH better prepared in the future and make sure all i’s are dotted and t’s crossed. The affidavits were rife with generalizations and non-specifics. If you are going to document voter fraud, make sure you write down the date & time, names of all people involved including supervisors, make the complaint to supervisors at the time you observe the problem, and finally, please attend orientation, so that the other side can’t claim you are being purposefully ignoration of procedures. Finally, expect social media history to be used against your credibility.

  21. 2020 November 15 1:35 pm
    mpt permalink

    One week after the 2020 presidential election, The Conservative Treehouse received the following notification…

    Expect a LOT more of this. It’s a feature of socialism, not a bug.

  22. 2020 November 15 1:37 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Could BJG be deplatformed?
    At the very bottom of each page, I see “vigilance theme by jestro”
    If you click, you see
    “WordPress themes”

    Are we on WordPress?

  23. 2020 November 15 1:55 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    A person I follow regularly is Greg Hunter (USAWATCHDOG.COM), he interviews smart guys on the economy and investing. Today he had on Martin Armstrong (one of my favorites and quite brilliant – http://www.armstrongeconomics.com). He has a computer program (Socrates) that has been spot on on forecasting the future.

    I would highly recommend you view the interview. Between this interview and what he has said in the past (as well as his computer forecast), we are headed for unrest regardless who wins.


  24. 2020 November 15 2:18 pm

    1 – Now you know why I voted for Doug Collins, not that he’s perfect either.

    10 – That’s probably true, but I’d also like to be able get some tp when I go shopping so from just supply chain view, and “runs” on things I makes sense. After all clearly nobody is actually worried about the spread, or we (collective we) wouldn’t be doing 1/2 the stupid shit we are as a reaction too it most of which are more harmful overall than helpful.

    15 – and overperformed Obama in those places. lol

    16 – Or because he doesn’t want to have a helicopter accident 3 months from now in FL. str8 up does anyone here put it past them to ax him before he can write his proverbial book about his 4 years? Also on declass, he can release whatever the fuck he wants, the problem is most the people around him don’t follow orders in timely manner, and that part is on him.

    19/22 – Yup it will happen in earnest in the coming months, to anyone who gets enough eyeballs communicating “wrong think” ie anything bucking the approved narrative.

    21 – Most of the good ones were put on retainer by the left over the last year, if not already inherently already on that side, the few who were not are now getting pressured to drop their client. The D’s play hardball and for keeps at all levels, while the R’s tittle their thumbs for the most part in this regard.

    23 – Yes it could happen, while no target is too small for them, would be sort of silly to target bgj. Doesn’t mean it will not eventually happen.

  25. 2020 November 15 3:02 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Jim, 23,

    We are NOT on wordpress.com, JR selected a different hosting partner. The wordpress source code is open source — https://wordpress.org/about/. So is the Jestro theme and we could claim certain rights as I have modified sections of the code, forked essentially. The wordpress team would be cutting their own throats should they start denying access to the software, a new team would fork that puppy in a minute by the same mechanism that created the Open Office – Libre Office split.

    Could the hosting provider cut us off? Surely. But we could move the site elsewhere out of the clutches of the SJWs. Its a big world and not every country is as nuts as the SJWs in the USA. Lithuania has a very liberal policy about hosting services for example.

  26. 2020 November 15 3:46 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    “The Brits are coming out to protest and protect their freedoms in a much more heroic fashion than Americans here in the U.S.

    Shocking scenes as scuffles and clashes erupt – police fight with protesters at anti-lockdown protest in Bristol, UK #Antilockdown #lockdown2uk #lockdown @StandUpX2 pic.twitter.com/lmjXOJoXBq
    — Urban Pictures (@Urban_Pictures) November 14, 2020”


    Exactly what needs to be happening here against any new “lockdowns” especially if the deep state coup is successful (I hope not!)

  27. 2020 November 15 3:51 pm
    Eph permalink

    28. Rand,


    You got our single malt ready???

  28. 2020 November 15 3:55 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Very interesting interview.

  29. 2020 November 15 4:01 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    26, dr thanks!
    Glad to hear more details

  30. 2020 November 15 4:09 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink


    “This is not good.

    In the below clip, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau previews the talking points that globalists, in the worst sense of the term, are going to use to move away from free markets, liberty and opportunity in favor of global control by the evilest of oligarchs.

    Trudeau is saying that the purpose of Coronavirus is for ‘The Great Reset’. The Cabal are coming out of hiding now 👀
    — derf_anon (@derf_anon) November 15, 2020

    Fear the Great Reset. COVID-19 lockdowns for a virus that is not a serious threat to most of the population is only a teaser.

    Infection Fatality Rate Survival Rate
    0-19 years: 0.00003 99.997%
    20-49 years: 0.0002 99.98%
    50-69 years: 0.005 99.5%
    70+ years: 0.054 94.6%


    — Patrick Henningsen (@21WIRE) November 15, 2020″

    This tells you all you need to know why the Globalist Dems had to steal the Prez election and why there evil “lockdowns” need to be opposed vigerously….

  31. 2020 November 15 4:17 pm
    justrand permalink

    Eph, I’ve got a great 12 year old waiting…but if Trump wins I’m gonna spring for an 18 year old 🙂

  32. 2020 November 15 5:03 pm
    Eph permalink


    See my Gravatar please


  33. 2020 November 15 5:09 pm
    Eph permalink

    Give credit where credit is due…

    No bigger cheerleader for T than GWP

    But where do they go in 2024????

  34. 2020 November 15 5:29 pm

    28 ~~The courts will just ignore it.

  35. 2020 November 15 5:32 pm
    Eph permalink



    Tits up baby

  36. 2020 November 15 6:27 pm
    bc3b permalink

    We’ve had 60+ mph winds. Just got power back.

    JimNorCal –

    Are purchase limits returning?

    In my area purchase limits never left. At Aldi’s it’s two cases of bottled water and two packages of toilet paper or paper towels.

    Many cleaning supplies are still in short supply. Meijer hasn’t had Clorox wipes for months. Last week itb had a knock-off brand – limit 2.

  37. 2020 November 15 7:11 pm
    Eph permalink

    Sidney Powell is the most rediculous person on the planet

    Change my mind

  38. 2020 November 15 7:17 pm
    Eph permalink


    Is Trump going to win Michigan?

  39. 2020 November 15 7:27 pm


  40. 2020 November 15 7:42 pm
    JimNorCal permalink


    Brigitte Gabriel@ACTBrigitte ·
    Just installed the Dominion – Smartmatic fitness app. Took a brisk walk around the neighborhood and got in 270,000 steps!

  41. 2020 November 15 7:46 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Twitter user “Catturd”:
    My new Dominion car sucks.
    Drove it to the store and it already has 489,000 miles on it.

  42. 2020 November 15 7:51 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Rosie’s Kraken Grooming @DarnelSugarfoo
    What if Le Pen was on track to win in the last French election, but Dominion/CIA put a stop to it?

    Was Dominion used in the recent New Zealand election? The election was won in a landslide by the woman who has oppressed her citizens and taken their guns away.

  43. 2020 November 15 8:01 pm
    Eph permalink

    41 IP

    Not just the dims

  44. 2020 November 15 8:04 pm
    Eph permalink

  45. 2020 November 15 8:37 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Yeah, Sidney might be ridiculous but she’s not backing down
    Bartiromo wondered: “You have a very small timeframe here, the elections are supposed to be certified in early December. Do you believe that you can present this to the courts and be successful within just this couple of weeks?”

    “First of all, I never say anything I can’t prove. Secondly, the evidence is coming in so fast I can’t even process it all,” Powell responded.

    “This is a massive election fraud, and I’m very concerned it involved not only Dominion and its Smartmatic software, but that the software essentially was used by other elections machines also. It’s the software that was the problem. Even their own manual explains how votes can be wiped away. It’s like drag and drop Trump votes to a separate folder and then delete that folder.”

  46. 2020 November 15 8:50 pm
    mpt permalink

    What if Le Pen was on track to win in the last French election, but Dominion/CIA put a stop to it?

    Was Dominion used in the recent New Zealand election? The election was won in a landslide by the woman who has oppressed her citizens and taken their guns away.

    This kind of crap is probably why the military intelligence agencies could be freaking out over Trump wanting to expose the whole dirty charade. Earlier this week Trump appointed Ezra Cohen-Watnick as Acting Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence so there is hope the entrenched military-industrial bureaucracy can be kicked aside.

  47. 2020 November 15 9:19 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Probably this didn’t get reflected into Census numbers? But if so … my oh my. Another Congressman lost to NY LOL.

    More than 300,000 New Yorkers have bailed from the Big Apple in the last eight months, new stats show.

  48. 2020 November 15 9:20 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Here is good news:


    “And rumors swirl that another Whitmer Michigan shutdown is looming, perhaps starting on November 18 and lasting three weeks. A rumor that she would shut down the state on Friday came and went, though Whitmer held a very odd press conference where Whitmer and her advisors scolded family members not to hug on Thanksgiving.

    Maddock told the Gateway Pundit: “Something had to be done. She’s ruining this great state. Small businesses and most dine-in restaurants will be dead by the end of the year. She’s caused the deaths of many vulnerable elderly people who died alone, scared, and pointlessly. This was long overdue,” Maddock said.”

    I find it more than “lucky” too that in the key swing states that use Dominion – MI, WI, PA – that all the key state-wide offices GOV, AG, & Sec of State were swept by corrupt Soros bought commie Dems…….we know WHY that was needed (da Steal) and now we know HOW (Dominion & CIA)…..

    Yes this is SATAN trying to exert is “dominion” over the earth – its that evil!

  49. 2020 November 15 9:23 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink


    “…we’re beginning to collect evidence on the financial interests of some of the governors and secretary’s of state who actually bought into the Dominion systems…Hunter Biden type graft to line their own pockets…”

  50. 2020 November 15 9:32 pm
    mpt permalink

    Something to consider. This morning Chuck Todd tweated the following:

    @chucktodd: “We invited every single Republican senator to appear here on @MeetThePress this morning. They all declined.”

    Normally if theirs no real chance of turning the election most of the Republicans would be sounding off for Trump to concede. That hasn’t happened and even the outliers like Mitt Romney are starting to shut up and fall back in line.

    The Republicans are awfully quiet, even Trump’s natural enemies in the party… This seems like a good omen.

    BTW, how will Romney feel when he realizes the same crap the Dems are pulling on Trump was why he lost the election in 2012.

  51. 2020 November 15 9:34 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Personally, I’ve gotten to the point where I’m not caring if there’s a case. There’s a range of possibilities–

    1) Trump’s guys have iron clad proof
    2) They’ve got a lot of data and are sure but it’s still a struggle to prove in court
    3) Seat of the pants confidence election was stolen, hoping for evidence to show up
    4) No evidence, just a feeling that Trump supporters want him to fight and so he will. At least till all the challenges have completed

    My feeling is that—
    Just like Trump spread the awareness of fake news to a wider audience, now he’s spreading awareness of election fraud. Dems and media allies have gotten away with BS till now but they won’t anymore. Every politician and every reporter will know that 70 million citizens believe there is significant fraud. It will affect their outlook and their priorities.
    Secondly, we’re all facing the possible reality that Trump may not be there to protect us. We all need to step up and do more. This seems REALLY healthy to me. Why should one guy do all the work? We should be reading blogs, yes, and voting, yes, but also demonstrating, showing up for city council and school board meetings, volunteering to be election observers, looking for other people who believe what we do and connecting to them. We should be speaking up in public … not haranguing but using our best persuasive skills. Stuff like that.
    We need to be a movement that doesn’t fade away. I really think the protests, for example, prove that has happened. We’ve seen what good government can accomplish, what a great economy can do. We’re not going back to the old way of doing things.

  52. 2020 November 15 9:47 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    That Chuck Todd observation, and follow-on thoughts is fascinating.

    Meanwhile, a quip I saw
    “Anyone who says you can’t give 110% never tried to vote in Wisconsin.”

  53. 2020 November 15 10:12 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    So bizarre, Dems throw out to through the MSM that all Trump lawsuits have been dismissed. Then I do some simple research and viola! Guess what they are moving forward – affidavits, imperical data and so on.

    The Left gets lied to again & again, Russia, Russia, impeachment, investigations and yet they still accept their being lied to.

  54. 2020 November 15 11:16 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    ” After the collapse of Soviet Communism a more extreme left emerged, the consequences of which we are now enduring. Today’s left is far more radical than the one it replaced, and in its Western heartland it has become far more socially destructive than Marxism or communism. If Communists had to infiltrate Western governments during and after World War II, now the intersectional left virtually owns Western societies and governments.

    This now-triumphant left happily plays race, gender, and hate-the-West cards, depending on which is the most useful tool for it to wreak havoc or increase its own power, and these two goals often go together. The question then becomes how to stop this pervasive force from further corrupting our institutions, particularly when so little pushback is in evidence. One precondition may be to recognize the modern left’s uniqueness and to stop equating it with “socialism” or “communism.” This archaic labeling may understate the danger.”


  55. 2020 November 15 11:22 pm

    52 – An alternate theory on that.. As usual R’s don’t know what to do, they don’t want to back Trump, but can’t for the most part outright hit him because they don’t know what he has or doesn’t have just yet. They also don’t know how he’ll react to that now that he may have very very little to lose and if they shit on him in public no reason to listen to anything they want him to NOT do. So as usual they continue to play him so that he doesn’t do somethings he wants to do (but isn’t at their request) and instead act paralyzed and say nothing or as little as possible as blandly as they can for awhile – which is pretty easy to do since it default-mode for R senators anyway.

    53 – 2 more than 1 or 3+ imho, and part of that ‘hard to prove’ is…even if they do prove it, all judges have to say (with fingers in their ears) is nyet you didn’t, and the vast majority are incentivized to do just that imho.

  56. 2020 November 15 11:27 pm

    “It’s absolutely brazen how people bought the system, and why they bought the system.”

    Yes, yes it was Sidney but almost no judge is going to give two shits about that part of it, not in context of results anyway, so by all means collate that data and present it eventually but don’t kid yourself it’s gonna change anything in the court room – unless you find multiple judges that aren’t already compromised to even let you get that far into presenting it.

  57. 2020 November 15 11:59 pm

    Matt Maddock and a few others in the state house in MI appear to be making a move for impeachment of Gov.EvilWitch, guess we’ll see if this actually goes anywhere starting tomorrow.

    Myself and the following members: Daire Rendon, Beau LaFave, Ryan Berman, Shane Hernandez Dan Lauwers Lana Theis and a growing list of Legislators are calling forthwith for impeachment hearings for Governor Whitmer.
    Michigan voters know she has committed the following impeachable conduct:

    Ignored court orders.
    Violated our Constitutional rights.
    Completely ignored due process and the legislature.
    Weaponized contract tracing databases to aid democrat campaigns.
    Using our kids as political pawns and denied special needs students who depend on the services that occur during in-person classes. Caused the unnecessary death of thousands of our vulnerable elderly who died alone and scared in nursing homes.

    I other news, and by total cowinkydink I’m sure:

    Peter Neffenger is a former Coast Guard Commander who served as Administrator of the Transportation Security Administration from July 2015 to January 20, 2017. Peter Neffenger is currently Chairman of the Board of Directors of Smartmatic, a multinational company that specializes in building and implementing electronic voting systems.
    Last week Neffenger was named a member of Joe Biden’s “Transition Team.”


  58. 2020 November 16 7:28 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    If they are so sure they won why hasn’t @KamalaHarris resigned her Senate seat?

  59. 2020 November 16 7:52 am

    60 – She and newsom gotta work out who to sell it too first, bidding war going on i’m sure, there will be no blogo investigation into that though. 🙂

  60. 2020 November 16 8:29 am


    Still think the judiciary is gonna help, with anything.

    Even when win on the law you lose.

    ^ The judge also said the election as it was stands…. cause errr reasons and stuff.

  61. 2020 November 16 9:19 am
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    The COVID scam is the “gun at your head” that they are using to force totalitarianism:

    “Trump Covid Adviser: ‘The Only Way This Stops Is If People Rise Up’”


  62. 2020 November 16 9:36 am

    64.. Yup. Meanwhile WA Gov like others just went full retard.

  63. 2020 November 16 9:38 am
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    From the CDC Website:

    Total us Deaths (All Causes)
    2017: 2,813,503 (234,000/Month)
    2018: 2,839,206 (237,000/Month)
    2019: 2,855,000 (238,000/Month)
    2020: 2,130,000 January through Sept

    Projected 2020: 2,130,000 + (236,000 x 3 months Oct thru December) = 2,838,000 (projected for 2020)

    In my little pea brain, I would have expected the overall death rate to be what is the yearly average plus the Covid Deaths. So why isn’t it higher instead of just average of the last 3 years?

    Could it be that some deaths, that would have been reported as something
    else in the last 3 years, are being reported as Covid this year?


    Nah, say it isn’t so.

  64. 2020 November 16 9:44 am
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #65 They are just going to call all flu & pnemonia deaths, which happen by the tens of thousands every winter, “COVID” deaths, as an excuse for their police state. The CDC has said it is “too hard” to keep flu stats this year lol:


  65. 2020 November 16 10:16 am

    67 – Yup, total farce, which is standard at this point.

  66. 2020 November 16 10:45 am
    drdog09 permalink


    A 10m man militia force took to the field on Nov 4th. That is the date that deer season opened in most States this year, delayed from the Nov 1 due to it being an election year. For most of the central and mountain states, Texas to Wyoming that is probably 3m snipers as that style of hunting is long gun @ between 50-200yrds. I did not own a rifle till I moved to Texas. Florida is shotgun territory mostly due to the fact you can’t see sh$% 20yrs down range due to palmetto rush and pines.

  67. 2020 November 16 10:52 am
    drdog09 permalink


    What is the real farce is that the Karens and their enablers fall for this tripe. Imagine a rewrite of ‘The Wizard of Oz’. The wicked witch is Covid. The wizard is Deep State. The good witch is rationality. The Yellow Brick Road is choice. The ruby slippers are Freedom. Now run the movie in your head.

  68. 2020 November 16 10:54 am
    drdog09 permalink

  69. 2020 November 16 11:07 am
    drdog09 permalink

    A long read but it details the mindset permeating the period up to and thru the Russian Revolution — https://www.firstthings.com/article/2020/10/suicide-of-the-liberals

    There are several matching markers in our midst today.

  70. 2020 November 16 12:00 pm
    TLS permalink

  71. 2020 November 16 1:09 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    That’s funny. Same could be said for the Senate as well.

  72. 2020 November 16 1:10 pm

    70 – Indeed did the weekly outing this week to stores… idk must have seen 100-200 people over the couple hours, me and 1 … 1 other person didn’t have a mask (not counting a couple toddler-ish age kids who didn’t have one). On the upside there was still a some TP left, but almost NO paper towels except singles of the store brand, explain that one to me someone (situation used to be reversed zero tp and decent amount of paper towels).

    I ignored the huge glaring cant-miss sign outside of Home Depot (needed some hvac filters), that said mask are required. Nearly got kicked out of the store.
    lol long story short I got some karen employee who said put on your mask it’s required about 50 feet into the store. I said I don’t own one, and I have a medical exception for IAB regardless – not that it was any of her business. She said she didn’t care one is required to shop in the store. I said you don’t care, or the store doesn’t care about my medical exception? She said the store, I said I’d like to hear that from the store manager directly, and if that’s the case I’ll gladly leave, and never shop there again, so lets go talk to that person.

    So we go toward the back employee area (well near it), so I wait for the manager. Another woman comes out said she wasn’t the store manager but the other woman’s supervisor. I said (after pulling my shitty flip phone out pretending to take video of it) nice to meet you, is it true you make no exceptions to your policy for those who can’t wear masks for medical reasons? She looked perplexed and said what condition prevents you from wearing one, I said not that it’s really any of your business but I have IAB and the masks are a problem. But your other employee said she and the store didn’t care. Is that true, I just want to get it on the record here that I’m being refused service over the mask. She said that’s not exactly true, clearly we want all customers who can wear one to wear one, but if that’s not possible in your case, you can order online and use curbside pick, (too which I said yeah but i’m here for 2 items I need now!), or she continued in this case so be it, and that I should continue my shopping but to please make it as quick as possible and that next time I should consider curbside pickup or if it’s just an item or two to ask an associate at the door to grab the items for you. I put the phone down, and she said by the way what’s IAB, I said it’s personal medical info that I’d rather not get into it. Also said if any other employee approaches you tell them politely that you cleared it with Jo-Ann. Sure enough later during checkout the clerk started to say something and I said, it’s fine I already talked to Jo-Ann, it’s all good.

    IAB = It’s All Bullshit.

    Now you ask why make a fuss, why not just turn around at the door and pick the filters up at wallyworld next door who will not give me shit over it. Well for no other reason than to make a point, if more people did it and sucked 10min of time here and there from various employees it would get to the point where employees are told yeah the sign says X but don’t actually give the customer shit over it because it’s too expensive time-wise. I get the feeling I’m like one of the only people these two women have encountered who wasn’t just going to comply.

  73. 2020 November 16 1:20 pm

  74. 2020 November 16 1:40 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    KH – and where is bc3b – Gretchen the wench must have him in her clutches. Poor bc3b, it was nice knowing him.

  75. 2020 November 16 2:17 pm
    Eph permalink

    Disneyland – Anaheim…


  76. 2020 November 16 2:24 pm
    Eph permalink

    The State of GA… RIP

  77. 2020 November 16 2:38 pm

    80 – I think you can kiss those two seats good bye too, I’ll still turnout but I think it’s going to be hard to get epic R turnout given what’s going on here, shrugs, hopefully I’m wrong and it’s the opposite, but either way the left’s machine will be in hyper drive regardless you have the SOS all by saying please game the system again – which frankly it’s time for R’s to start gaming back.

  78. 2020 November 16 2:48 pm

    Hand count uncovers ~2650 votes just didn’t register in early voting in Floyd county, where the split was about 70/30 for Trump.
    Trump nets + ~1000. That’s ~7% of the county total just not registering, da fuq.. and all apparently related to early voting timeframe?


  79. 2020 November 16 3:05 pm
    mpt permalink

    Hand count uncovers ~2650 votes just didn’t register in early voting in Floyd county, where the split was about 70/30 for Trump.

    It will be an interesting to see if this is a pattern that emerges as more counties report.

  80. 2020 November 16 3:10 pm
    Eph permalink

    82 KH,

    Paper ballots or electronic Dominien?

  81. 2020 November 16 3:25 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    For what it is worth — https://newsthud.com/dominion-engineer-told-antifa-hed-made-sure-trump-wouldnt-win-report-says/ — Stalin was right, who counts the ballots is what matters.

  82. 2020 November 16 3:52 pm
    mpt permalink

    85 – that is pretty stunning stuff. And as far as Twitter silencing the guy investigating Coomer should make them accessory after the fact.

  83. 2020 November 16 4:17 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Holy Crap! This is rotten they can smell the stench in HELL!

    “Internet sleuth, Gavin Mario Wax was first to discover the interesting information about the Democrat elected official/Dominion Voting Systems project manager.

    FYI, Lathrup Village is Oakland County, Michigan: pic.twitter.com/aKIUEU1EB1

    — Gavin Mario Wax 🇺🇸 (@GavinWax) November 16, 2020

    The State of MI Central Procurement Services contract between the State of Michigan and Dominion Voting Systems was executed in the amount of $24,875,311. The initial effective date is March 1, 2017. Cheryl Holmes, Dominion State Project Manager, and Kelly Garrett, Dominion Customer Relations Manager are the Dominion representatives whose names appear on the MI Dept. of Technology, Management, and Budget contract.”


  84. 2020 November 16 4:37 pm
    Eph permalink


    I would be shocked if team Trump didnt already know that weeks ago. If not, they deserve to lose.

  85. 2020 November 16 4:42 pm

    EPH (84) – They recounted the paper by hand, the recount here doesn’t involve machines… actually it does in some areas that have paper sheet page counters to help count the different stacks, but they’re not Dominion.

  86. 2020 November 16 4:44 pm

    83 – About a 1/3rd counties are done and that I believe is the only one (reported yet) with any significant difference, others have differences but it’s like +/- a couple dozen, nothing massive like Floyd.

  87. 2020 November 16 4:45 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    I think certain parties ought to be considering 18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States for possible jail time and fines.

  88. 2020 November 16 4:48 pm

    85 – That’s great and all, and OAN had interview and report with him at 5pm today, but it doesn’t ‘prove’ anything from a legal perspective…he’ll just claim he was joking\ false bravado etc.

  89. 2020 November 16 4:59 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    KH, 77, that’s great 🙂 🙂

  90. 2020 November 16 5:09 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    bc, here’s one for you!
    remember– “L is for Loser”

  91. 2020 November 16 5:17 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Dersh gives a lawyerly analysis.
    I think this would be a rather provocative approach. Also, from our BJG analysis from a while ago, if some states don’t vote … isn’t it the case that the majority needed to win just falls to 50% plus 1 of the lower number of votes? I don’t think 270 is the magic number anymore if some states don’t certify in time.

    “What he’s trying to do is to deny Joe Biden 270 votes, by challenging in Pennsylvania, Georgia, in Nevada, in Michigan, in Arizona,” Dershowitz said, adding that not allowing Biden to reach 270 out of 538 votes would eventually force House state delegations to vote, where Republicans have an advantage over Democrats. Currently, the GOP has a 26-23-1 state delegation majority in the House of Representatives.

    “If he can keep the Biden count below 270, then the matter goes to the House of Representatives, where, of course, there is a Republican majority among the delegations of states, and you vote by state if it goes to the House,” Dershowitz said. “He’s trying to follow the playbook of three elections of the 19th century.”

    Dershowitz noted that a number of things would have to align perfectly for Trump to win under that circumstance.

  92. 2020 November 16 5:43 pm
    Eph permalink

    95 Jim,

    As IP would say…

    W B F !

  93. 2020 November 16 5:49 pm
    mpt permalink

    90 – Have any of the Dominion counted counties hit yet in the recount?

  94. 2020 November 16 5:52 pm

    mpt 57 co. I think was the number of counties involving Dominion, 1/3rd of all counties have finished, including the dominion case of Floyd, the answer is I don’t have full tally but presumably yes some have as Floyed co indicated.

  95. 2020 November 16 5:56 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Jim, 95,

    Been saying for quite some time, its headed to the House. Its a hat trick if he pulls it off.

  96. 2020 November 16 6:04 pm
    Eph permalink

    C note


    Sorry WEC

  97. 2020 November 16 7:10 pm

    Journalist Tests Nevada Voter Signature Verification, Discovers Whopping 89% Failure Rate
    By Jack Davis
    Published November 16, 2020 at 8:19am


  98. 2020 November 16 7:38 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Seen on the Internet.

    Person 1: there is a rumor that truckers are striking the last four days of November

    Person 2: I’m friends with several truckers and joined a few Facebook truckers groups. Absolutely true about the truckers strike.

  99. 2020 November 16 7:41 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    I saw a thread about the Clark County NV meeting. They basically are considering options due to a down ballot race whose contestants are 10 votes apart. Not sure how that lines up with these 2 Tweets.

    Donald J. Trump
    Big victory moments ago in the State of Nevada. The all Democrat County Commissioner race, on same ballot as President, just thrown out because of large scale voter discrepancy. Clark County officials do not have confidence in their own election security. Major impact!
    Adam Paul Laxalt
    The Clark County Commission just threw out an election that represents almost 1/6 of the total votes cast in Clark County because there were too many “discrepancies” to be sure that that the results in that election can be certain. 153K votes in this election.

  100. 2020 November 16 7:46 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Finally coming up for air. When you don’t see me posting all day, I’m making money. When I’m here a lot on weekdays, I’m not.

    Whitmer is closing much of the state down again – indoor dining (not many want to dine outdoors in 35 degree weather), high school sports are coming to a halt, while Whitmer can’t outlaw it, she wants Thanksgiving dinners limited to immediate households, recommending against traveling for Thanksgiving, bowling and movies are shutdown.

    Of course BML protests with many not wearing masks and no social distancing is fine.

    Stopped at Kroger on the way home. The parking lot and the store were packed and shelves were fairly bare.

  101. 2020 November 16 7:50 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    “Whitmer is closing much of the state down again”

    Yeah, we’re getting that here in CA too.
    Good luck on making money LOL and best wishes to grow your pile!

  102. 2020 November 16 8:10 pm

    103 – I know the details on that if you want more.

    Clark county certified their county results. Except for one race for District-C where the margin was 10 votes. For the county they threw out 936 normal ballots for various reasons and out of 60k provisional ballots (why so god damn many?) in the county accepted 58k of them, throwing out the other 2k for various reasons, mostly not registered voters, but some actual fraud attempts. In any case because there were ~3k in discrepancies, and the margin in that 1 races was 10 votes and not say 15k etc, and fearful they may have missed say 10 other discrepancies they have voted to have a re-vote for that one race.

    None of this is good for Trump directly, quite the opposite, but there may be arguments some smart lawyers can now at least raise in court because of it. Why Trump is acting so pleased about it, and also cherry picking what was said I can’t tell you other then marketing spin.

  103. 2020 November 16 8:28 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #100 C’mon don’t go mega-Eyore on us!

    Trump will win!

    You can bank your Acme stock on it!

  104. 2020 November 16 8:45 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Dragon has a live feed of docking to ISS right now — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEfFYU2n83w — Been nearly a decade since Americans have reached ISS under their own power, so to speak.

  105. 2020 November 16 8:52 pm

    New optional strat for next mask confrontation?
    “I’ve already had it last month, I’m immune.” 😉

  106. 2020 November 16 9:04 pm
    mpt permalink

    Why Trump is acting so pleased about it, and also cherry picking what was said I can’t tell you other then marketing spin.

    Trump’s bravado over this does not boost my confidence which was already lagging today.

  107. 2020 November 16 9:06 pm
    mpt permalink

    “I’ve already had it last month, I’m immune.”

    Just cary a BLM sign and say “I’m protesting!!!”

  108. 2020 November 16 9:11 pm
    Eph permalink

    110 mpt

    Could be an amazing flame out after all the BS about 24/7 cheating nonsense

  109. 2020 November 16 9:11 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    A protest of One, I like that thinking.

  110. 2020 November 16 9:30 pm
    drdog09 permalink

  111. 2020 November 16 9:58 pm

    112 – Oh there was lots of cheating to be sure, question is can or will they even be given the chance to prove it, the latter is doubtful, we’ll see.

    We might have to adjust our “post fraud” level of predictions quite a bit if there is a next time. 🙂

  112. 2020 November 16 10:13 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    110 “Trump’s bravado over this does not boost my confidence”

    Agree. But as I said in 53 I don’t think that matters anymore.
    I’m increasingly believing he doesn’t have the goods. I don’t care and I hope he makes them fight it out all the way to the end. Let’s all learn how to handle defeat: make the enemy feel the pain.

    In 2016, Trump spread belief in MSM bias ( “fake news”) far and wide.
    In 2020, Trump is spreading “election fraud”. The MSM and Dems can say all they want, 70 million of us will go to our graves believing this election was stolen. “A fuse has been lit”

  113. 2020 November 16 11:40 pm
    mpt permalink

    Listening to the Lou Dobbs interview with Sidney Powell from earlier today, I’m assuming she is outlining her arguments for why the election was fraudulent:


    It basically boils down to a connection between elections in Venezuela a number of years ago and what happened in this year’s Presidential election with a company called Smartmatic in the center of it all.

    Did anyone ever think Venezuala’s elections were fair? Does anyone care? Can people be persuaded that essentially the same system used for this election in the United States? It sounds very farfetched on the face of it.

    This is going to be a VERY tough sell unless there is some really solid evidence Sidney doesn’t mention in the interview. Something to the tune of credible high ranking officials from the defense and intelligence agencies testifying and offering proof that they caught the Softmatic system red-handed in the act of changing votes in the manner she describes. I’m fairly skeptical we’ll see anything like that. Instead, it looks like it will be affidavits from “insiders” whos stories could likely be dismissed for a number of reasons. Like JimNorCal, my confidence that Trump’s team has the goods is diminishing.

    I don’t really doubt that what Sidney Powell describes is true. I personally feel it, or something like it probably occurred. I just don’t see this line of argument being persuasive to judges or any sizeable portion of the Democrats that might be convinced their side cheated.

    Ugh, I hope a good nights sleep will change my perspective on how this appears.

  114. 2020 November 17 3:39 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    “I don’t really doubt that what Sidney Powell describes is true. I personally feel it, or something like it probably occurred.”
    Yep. Just 4 cities: Atlanta, Detroit, Philadelphia and Milwaukee.
    I wonder if part of it is Trump taunting them to remove him from office forcibly?

    “Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.”

    This has not aged well.
    In this clip from the first 2020 presidential debate, Biden is asked if he will wait for all votes to be officially certified before claiming victory in the election and also to urge his voters to stay calm during this time.

    “Will you urge your supporters to stay calm while the vote is counted, and will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently certified?” moderator Chris Wallace asked Biden.

    “Yes,” Biden replied.

  115. 2020 November 17 4:19 am
    mpt permalink

    I wonder if part of it is Trump taunting them to remove him from office forcibly?

    To what end? There is much more at stake here than an ego pissing match. If Trump is forcibly ejected from office the left will have a much easier time convincing those in the center they are justified not only in going after and destroying Trump, his family, and his inner circle personally, but they are justified in going after every one of his supporters in the same way.

    Showing up for a gunfight with a knife, telling your followers you have a bazooka is a way to get a lot of your followers killed.

    Anyway, I’m actually less negative than I sound. I’ll wait to see what transpires over the next two weeks. But, Trump is not doing himself any favors by way of his tweet about a “huge win” in Clark County if it is just about officials calling for a do-over vote in a small down-ballot election with just a 10 vote separation.

  116. 2020 November 17 7:06 am
    drdog09 permalink

    New Thread People!

  117. 2020 November 17 7:20 am
    justrand permalink

    this week the Trump team either goes to court with the goods…or folds their tents

    and if they do have to “fold their tents”, then Trump should go full on scorched Earth on the Deep State. Fire EVERY MF’er that pledged allegiance to the Deep State instead of the USA. And start with Christopher Wray.

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