Saving Parler

2021 January 11
by drdog09

A tongue and cheek look about what Parler will have to go thru to bring their site back up. So lets lay it out with a few particulars in mind:

  • No use of ‘Woke’ companies. eg. Mozilla.
  • No use of platforms. Its why they got kicked off AWS.
  • No dependence on ‘Woke’ income streams.

So laying that out how would Parler, or any other company pull this off?


First thing that is needed is of course bandwidth and assigned numbers to use. Assuming that the usual Tech Tyrants are not going to be nice drives one all the way to layer 1 in the OSI model. To achieve that one must –

  • Approach ARIN the number assigner an acquire a pool.
    • IPv6
    • Achieve the assigned usage goals in the given time.
    • Preferred assignment.
  • Approach a carrier for the traffic.
    • Must be a common carrier
    • Must be regulated
    • Has state regulatory commission reporting.

Lets address the carrier aspect. You want a common carrier (VZ, Sprint, AT&T, Level3) entity as the bearer of the traffic for the simple reason they cannot generally discriminate. Further you want to pick a carrier who is regulated in a State that really are, excuse the expression, assholes about this. As the customer you want an environment that favors your position. Then on to the numbering. ARIN is the sub-unit of IANA that covers the north American market. They have a complete defined process for becoming an ISP. Use IPv6 since the IPv4 number space is nearly exhausted. Request a relatively large block to support the business, and yes being an ISP will become a sideline for someone like Parler. Finally suggest the preferred number space that is in the range space common to the carrier in the locale of choice so as to avoid them balking about accepting one as a customer.

One should think wide scale here. Someone like Parler would probably never need a million IP name space. But over the long haul Parler will not be the only business kicked off platforms. Parler might as well become a safe harbor provider for ‘Deplorables’ and their ‘Deplorable’ businesses. It will be needed. That sideline would be the income stream to support Parler the app.


Yep, the ugly word that Gen Z seems to ignore – hardware. The ugly, grimy rack and stack stuff that today seems so ‘yesterday’. But the ole saying “if you can’t touch it, you don’t own it” applies here. I won’t get too detailed since to do so blows up into options in a million ways. Particularly as to selection of vendor on down. But what I will point out are two levels, one for SMEs and another for enterprise types.


If you are a small time operator hardware wise you would want 3+ units with the following characteristics:

  • CPU, 4 cores, VT or VTx capable, largest L2 cache size you can afford.
  • 32Gb ram
  • 2Tb storage minimum, 4Tb preferred.
  • 2 Gbe NICs


If you are a larger company hardware wise you would want 3+ units with the following characteristics:

  • CPU, 8 or 16 cores, VT or VTx capable, largest L2 cache size you can afford.
  • 64Gb ram, 128Gb preferred
  • 4Tb preferred or a dual SAN.
  • 2 Gbe NICs

A development desktop might also be required for someone like Parler. The SME recommendation would suffice but just one unit. This device will take a different software path than those servers.

But why 3+ or more units you might ask. Simply put that is the general minimum required to provide a cloud based service that the enterprise would ride on top of.


Parler lived on AWS so why not build your own? Staff knows the concepts, just acquire the skills for a non-AWS environment.


Probably two I would recommend are:




Either system will provide a simple easy to use cloud arrangement the typical small company. They have web based front ends. Now they don’t have the separation of functions like the next two, but in smaller environments it is probably not needed based on experience.


Only two to consider


Reason being they are enterprise scale and they support AWS AMI images. That makes is possible to do a drop-n-go with what has already been developed.


On a single machine for development work I might suggest VirtManager. If this seems familiar, just say “it looks like Virtual Box or VmWare” cuz it is. VirtManager is very much like those two tools in use. It is open source however and the performance is near hardware level.


Well at this juncture using the enterprise cloud solution, Parler could bring their service up in short order. As long as they have the AMI images it would be pretty quick. Most of the effort listed is getting that first three layers assembled.


If this appears as a Linux/Open Source solution, you would be correct. Why not Microsoft with Hyper-V? You could. My only counter point would be, and what do you do if Microsoft cuts you off? You are right back where you started essentially.

106 Responses leave one →
  1. 2021 January 11 11:29 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Might be a bit in-house shop talk, but it would be what I would be doing right about now were I Parler.

  2. 2021 January 11 11:41 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    Another Catholic willing to speak out against communism/socialism LOL.
    Skip forward to the 3:00 mark or so.

  3. 2021 January 11 12:27 pm
    bc3b permalink

    As much as I like Firefox, I dropped it and added Opera.

    I always have 4+ browsers.

  4. 2021 January 11 12:32 pm
    bc3b permalink


    My buddy – Fr. Huffman – frequently speaks out against the “leftist agenda.” In the Sundays preceding the election, he closed mass with an election prayer (based on pro-life). Every mass -during the intentions – he includes “deaths caused by abortion.”

    Despite all the problems, there are many good Catholic priests and very few good Catholic bishops.

  5. 2021 January 11 12:55 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    From someone I follow — — It appears that the Guv has figured out, finally, that he will have no state left if he keeps his draconian lockdown in place. Heh.

    May the lawsuits begin.

  6. 2021 January 11 2:45 pm
    mulletover permalink

    The FBI is warning of protests in all 50 state capitals if President Trump is removed from office before Inauguration Day. So what does “crazy as a sh!thouse rat” Nanzi propose to do?

    Well, she proposes to remove him from office one way or another in numerous political speeches.

    Is that considered inciting riots via political speech similar to the charges she continues to spew out?

  7. 2021 January 11 2:46 pm
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 –

    Which hardware do you recommend – Ace or True Value?

  8. 2021 January 11 2:52 pm
    mulletover permalink

    Help! I lost my mulletover avatar when I updated my profile and email address. I can’t find it anywhere in images.

    I think IP discovered it five or six years ago and I adopted it for my very own.

    I am so distressed, I may consume all the leftover egg nog in my despair.

  9. 2021 January 11 2:54 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Mullet #7 –

    Yet, we are expected to “unify” behind Biden, no matter how much the Dems crap on Trump and his supporters.

  10. 2021 January 11 3:22 pm
    Eph permalink

    7 mull

    According to my calendar, Trump has 7 days left.

    Better hurry!

  11. 2021 January 11 3:46 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Ha!! Ace. Though ACME is my preferred brand.

  12. 2021 January 11 3:55 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    My God! That is sheer tragedy.

  13. 2021 January 11 4:01 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Serves Twitter right — — loses $5Bn in stock value for deleting Trump. Go Woke Go Broke.

  14. 2021 January 11 4:05 pm
    drdog09 permalink

  15. 2021 January 11 4:17 pm
    mulletover permalink


    Mrs Mullet did some sleuthing, and retrieved an old laptop from Way back, and we just found the image in the photo gallery. I thought that laptop was long gone to Goodwill or some scrap pile.

    Now I got to figure out how to set it up under the new email. My password is long gone, and Gravatar says it is already in use. Old email, I guess unless some democrat felon ran off with it.

    Hopefully my adorable image will once again grace the big page.

  16. 2021 January 11 4:19 pm
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 –

    Don’t have Acme Hardware in Michigan, but we do have Do It Best Centers.

  17. 2021 January 11 4:20 pm
    mulletover permalink

    Post 16

    Well, lookee thar……

  18. 2021 January 11 4:44 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    go to and see if you can access using a google ID. They accept that now, cuz I just did it.

  19. 2021 January 11 5:07 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Bongino show worth watching —

  20. 2021 January 11 5:09 pm
    justrand permalink

    mullet, first of all, THANK YOU!!

    Second, please get your gravitar reloaded, it has always been one of my favorites!!

  21. 2021 January 11 5:17 pm
    bc3b permalink

    The social media companies are creating a greater divide as conservatives leave Facebook, Twitter, Gmail, Foxfire for more friendly venues.

  22. 2021 January 11 5:17 pm
    justrand permalink


    I just got home, 4,000 miles after leaving here 10 days ago.

    Traveling home I thought I would pick up some ammunition along the way, because in the PRK it is “difficult” to come by (unless you’re a gang banger). I focused on ammo stores along our route, in each State (Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Nevada). I looked at their websites, and even called. Almost NO AMMO to be found…anywhere! Finally, today, I went into a store in Reno that I had bought ammo in before…a HUGE store. They have FIVE AISLES devoted to ammunition, of every caliber. With the exception of about 20 boxes of ammo in odd calibers scattered about those five aisles , they had NO ammo. NONE.


    I asked one of the salesmen, and he said: “We can’t keep ANY in stock.”

    Scheels is only a few miles away, and I re-checked their website, they also have almost NO AMMO. We came home.

    A combination of two things are going on:
    (1) People are afraid that ammunition will be “unavailable” after Biden* is installed. Whether priced/regulated out of reach, or banned altogether. (the 2nd Amendment says you have the “Right to Bear Arms”…it doesn’t mention “ammunition”
    (2) This country is preparing for WAR…Civil War.

  23. 2021 January 11 5:32 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    The Court of Appeals acknowledged that the Second Amendment right is “not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose…but it does encompass a right to keep ordinary handguns in the home for use in self-defense.” The court therefore reasoned that although neither Heller nor the subsequent Supreme Court case McDonald v. Chicago specifically addressed ammunition, “it logically follows that the right to keep and bear arms extends to the possession of handgun ammunition in the home; for if such possession could be banned (and not simply regulated), that would make it “impossible for citizens to use [their handguns] for the core lawful purpose of self-defense.”
    Herrington v. District of Columbia.

    precedent is there, for how long nobody knows.

  24. 2021 January 11 5:58 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    If you could use WalMart without stepping in their store would you? — — Considering Amazon’s duplicity and purge it might be worth considering as an alternative to Amazon Prime.

  25. 2021 January 11 6:13 pm
    bc3b permalink

    justrand –


    I just got home, 4,000 miles after leaving here 10 days ago.

    With your Prius pickup you must have been driving 18-20 hours every day. One positive – you won’t get nailed for speeding. lol.

  26. 2021 January 11 6:18 pm
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 #27 –

    Like Ebay, today’s Walmart is only better than Amazon by comparison.

  27. 2021 January 11 6:25 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    India take on The Purge —

  28. 2021 January 11 6:27 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    I saw his ‘Prius’ its a tad preggers if ya know what I mean.

    As to Walmart, yeah it like going from the fire to the frying pan but I am casting about for alternatives since I want to ditch my Amazon Prime.

  29. 2021 January 11 6:54 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

  30. 2021 January 11 7:18 pm
    justrand permalink

    I watched Tucker’s monologue tonight and thought: “He’s a good man…and totally naive”

    There is NO reconciliation possible. And the “divorce” will NOT be “amicable”

    Tomorrow I will do more tactical thinking…tonight I’m just pissed and saddened.

  31. 2021 January 11 7:23 pm
    bc3b permalink

  32. 2021 January 11 7:36 pm
    bc3b permalink

  33. 2021 January 11 8:26 pm
    bc3b permalink

  34. 2021 January 11 9:06 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    drdog, 26:
    the Second Amendment right is “not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose…but it does encompass a right to keep ordinary handguns in the home for use in self-defense.”

    Sure, it’s settled law. But the plain text of the founding document says Congress shall not infringe of the right to keep and bear arms. That doesn’t sound like you’re limited your living room.

  35. 2021 January 12 4:48 am
    drdog09 permalink


    I agree. I was addressing the relevance to ammo being a separate issue from the firearm, which it is not.

  36. 2021 January 12 4:57 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Read this — — Recognize some of the names? You should, they used to be on ‘our’ side.

  37. 2021 January 12 6:17 am
    drdog09 permalink

  38. 2021 January 12 6:22 am

    Full court press against Trump~~~

  39. 2021 January 12 8:02 am
    justrand permalink

    The unholy alliance of Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, Apple and Google has created what amounts to an Information Death Star.

    They hovered the Death Star over Trump and the very few Republicans brave enough to back him, and now they don’t even have to threaten people or entities anymore. The mere EXISTENCE of the Information Death Star has the already spineless GOP, and damn near everyone else, cowering. After all, if they can silence POWERFUL people, the little people (I.e., US) don’t stand a chance.

    And this is BEFORE Biden* is installed in the basement of the White House, and BEFORE the Democrats take full control of Congress. After next week they won’t even try to pretend to give a shit about America. And WHATEVER they do, the Supreme Court will either endorse or refuse to consider (same thing).

    I was waaaaay too optimistic with my mid-year prediction.

  40. 2021 January 12 8:20 am
    justrand permalink

    Excellent comment from someone over at PowerLine:

    Welcome to the ascension of the Democratic-Fascist Party. This is their electronic Kristallnacht, with conservatives and Republicans being treated as untermenschen. Progressives have finally brought the fascism they’ve long admired to America.

    The analogy is perfectly apt…it just doesn’t go far enough. Kristallnacht SHOULD have been a wake-up for the Jews, but it wasn’t. Instead millions of them walked meekly into gas chambers still thinking to the very last instant: “This too will pass.”

    I know far too many people, friends AND family, who think ” This too will pass”. Unlike 1945 where America came to the rescue and the Holocaust finally DID pass, it WON’T pass this time. Machines don’t get tired, and don’t question their orders…they have no conscience. Once the algorithms are set and the targets of those algorithms identified, they will carry on regardless. And the Left’s control will be absolute. The time to fight this scenario is drawing to a close.

  41. 2021 January 12 9:24 am
    mpt permalink

    Justrand, I like your analogy of Information Death Star. So very true.

    I was listening to Robert Barnes the other day and his take on events from last week and he often mentioned we are in the second act of the original Star War trilogy of the Empire Strikes Back. Things will look bleak and hero’s will be defeated before the third act can begin. I hope he is right.

  42. 2021 January 12 9:25 am
    bc3b permalink

    Justrand #44 –

    Very true. I continue to be shocked that US Jews continue to support the Democratic Party and that Catholic bishops go merrily along. Biden, like Pelosi a make-believe Catholic, was very clear during the campaign that he intends to willingly go along with the far-left’s goal of destroying religious freedom in the US.

  43. 2021 January 12 10:53 am
    Eph permalink

  44. 2021 January 12 11:20 am
    bc3b permalink

    Eph #47 –

    Looks like I will be shopping at Kroger rather than Meijer.

    Nice chain of more upscale Walmarts you have. It would be a shame of people stopped patronizing it.

  45. 2021 January 12 11:53 am
    justrand permalink

  46. 2021 January 12 1:25 pm

    BTW 70tb of parler’s data has been leaked presumably by an aws employee to the internet, read that last night in the forums on a torrent site I frequent. Yet another reminder to the world of storing all you data in some else’s “cloud”. Granted I suppose even if not stored on someone else’s hardware could have just as easily been leaked from an internal source… see ms’s win2k source code leak from 2019 not that it mattered really.

    long rant:

    Yes why they Parler over the last months didn’t they have at least have at least a single rack co-lo’d somewhere else of there own I don’t understand. Bitchute warned them, gab and others warned them, it was clear it was only a matter of time – and not just the politics, you think Aws wasn’t itching for a reason to use anyway in the last year, you think twitter wasn’t already pressuring every way they could to have competition fked with?

    There are 1000+ colo places across the us, some tiny, some large, 1000’s more across the world – granted only a subset of that would take the business but they do exist – they’re just not the cheapest.
    Yeah things get expensive because that rack is ~125k (maybe more or maybe less these days) of gear between the boxes,med-end san, quality switches and other gear, but so is losing your business overnight. Even if a colo is gonna boot you, you still have the gear to quickly move to another facility – so long as you’ve paid your bill and they aren’t holding it hostage for payment. Not to mention most just don’t cut you like that, you’re almost always given more warning, and frankly most of smaller players actually value the ~10k they’re charging you every month for 2x1gig-10gig link + 2x redundant 20amp a\b power for that ~10sq ft (most of cost is power). I’d rather my service be a little slower\less performant and exist than be able to be yanked entirely from me. And Paler page load times already were slow as shit from what I understood anyway so not sure it matters.

    In short they went the cheap route (which I understand in the opening months, but don’t once you got a couple million users). Plenty of private colo datacenters out there that never would have pulled this shit (some even have their own private ‘cloud’ offerings – though I would pass on that), at least they’re used to be a few years ago. Hell some of the major torrent sites have and still use this strat forever – and a couple of them probably get more traffic then Parler does lol, granted the db’s related traffic isn’t comparable.

    Slightly cheaper in the short term (way more expensive in the long term) would have been to “rent” a rack from multiple larger hoster (but not publically traded mega corps) that aren’t going to pull some shit quite as easily because their reps matter to them, people who have actually fought battles or at least shown resistance to people trying to fuck with their customers before. I mean for a couple k a month they could have rented a rack from ovh for example, and a couple k more for another provider for some geo separation and load balance.

    Another tip if doing that, form some shells per service provider that actually contact for the services and then provide the services to Parler, it’s not much but can keep the random woke employee who’s searching company records to see if “Parler” is a customer not see the name come up. I have a box in Canada, it’s not rented by “me”, it’s rented technically by a LLC I own for example, still paid by me but cursory search by random employee will not turn up my name.

    Now eventually they’d out grow the 2-3 racks (constantly moving one every month or so if necessary) spread across the country\world strategy. In itself that would have a least made ‘attackers’ have to split their forces among multiple pressure targets, shifting targets too at times, but it would have bought time for as Dr mentions them to eventually build their own data-center. That btw doesn’t have to be some massive high end 50m$ facility. Not everything has to be a triple redundant setup, lots of smaller co-lo’s are ‘good enough’, especially if you have more than one. There are plenty of little hole-in-the wall private data centers out there that are like 2500sqft , I’ve been in dozens of these places (and that’s just around Atlanta, even helped build out two of them) – which is _always_ ultimately the only solution if you want some level of control. At that point your main risks are the regulated power company and the regulated fiber providers, for which you’ll want at least 2 if not more into the building, and of course your landlord if you don’t actually own the property, you damn well should, or at least have a iron clad lease.

    *Better would be pickup a couple investors and buy out (or take majority stake in) an existing small colo, use that as your base and build from there, including the side-hustle of providing safe harbor rack space for some other companies in similar boats that can offset your significant mo operating costs. As everyone grows you slowly build out or acquire a few more. This jump starts\avoids the process of getting your own AS# and some at least some v4 allocations to your “name”. BTW does Parler even generate any revenue at all really yet?

    The real question is do they have the money to do any of that? The whole thing always struck me as being run on shoestring – which is fine but restricts options. It’s not super expensive, but it’s definitely not cheap either, you’d want a couple mil in the bank to start so you could run at a loss for awhile. Conservative money would have been better spent long-term donating toward toward something like this than “The Kraken” lawsuits.

    Bottom line their was they had all or at least most (I don’t know their internal architecture) eggs in one basket, using Aws or Azure etc to process\munch on gobs of data where you’re basically renting cpu time is fine, or to balance your front end load is fine,etc, that’s somewhat easily replaced if things go bad, but building your entire business on some else’s virtual platforms imho has always been just stupid in my opinion – talk about vendor lock-in, at that point they own your business you don’t.

    I was thinking about how I would spend the Powerball or MegaMillions lotto winnings (both at present drawings paying out 400million+ cash option this week …minus ~45% taxes of course). This is exactly the sort of thing I’d potentially waste 50-100 million on trying to build and grow over the next 5 years as a passion project. A give-no-fucks privately held Network\Colo provider – so long as you’ve paid we don’t care what you’re doing. Including buying up my own fiber where possible (between DCs, and at least to IX points) to further mitigate risk of being pressured by others. Along with that banking\credit\union services would be worthy of investment as well. All easier said then done, especially now as you almost have to do it on the sly till you’re of certain size that can’t be fucked with.

  47. 2021 January 12 1:42 pm

    46 – I really don’t understand you still being surprised by that fact.

    Info Death Star… lol really apt way of putting it, quite true, and all predicted \predictable. You could see it in ~2005 as quite possible, by ~2010 it was clear it was going in that direction and with no push back it would be nearly unstoppable, including some financial institutions starting to get into the game. By ~2015 it’s clutches and reach were clear, and worse the “woke” bullshit started infecting everything, no decent would be tolerated, and all of it was already actively being used against people both individual and large segments in general, as predicted. By that year not only were numerous incidents making it clear but many of those operating these services were making it clear publicly not just what they were gonna do now and down the line but in late 2016 some even detailed exactly how they would do it. Then they did just that, at increasing frequency. The preceding years was just spent buying up more pols to ensure none of it would be touched with anything more than lip service, that of course was the cheapest and easiest part of it all.

  48. 2021 January 12 1:59 pm

    Yeah…never cared for his personal politics but have mostly respected the fact Greenwald has been largely non-hypocritically calling this shit out for the last decade no matter who was the topic of the day (left or right). Reading some of the ace comments I find it strange people seem surprised in Glen’s comments, I’m not at all. Maybe they haven’t followed Glens writing over the years, especially in recent years, plenty of which I don’t necessarily agree with but when it comes to big-tech and big-gov secrecy and censorship\control he’s one of the few that has been consistent in warnings no matter the year or target.

    Update: apparently the 70tb wasn’t leaked from aws but some project to scrape every page or whatever on the service. So nothing of value really. Also Judge *what a surprise* denies application for TRO on aws.

  49. 2021 January 12 2:06 pm

    Project Veritas Sting: PBS’ Counsel Opines That He and His Government Friends Should Use Government Power to Take Republicans’ Children Away from Them

    Anyone surprised in the least?

  50. 2021 January 12 2:16 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    Romney seems to have passed the torch to the Cheney family to lead the new impeach Donald Trump GOP plan.

  51. 2021 January 12 2:17 pm
    bc3b permalink

    I always wondered why Ace of Spades used the domain

    He was ahead of the curve using a non-US server.

  52. 2021 January 12 2:26 pm
    bc3b permalink

    JR #49 –

    The Dog and I have already set up email accounts. It’s Swiss-based and (unlike Gmail and Yahoo mail) is very unobtrusive. Only takes about two minutes to sign up.

    I plan to limit my Outlook account to business only and stop using Gmail completely. I am going to keep for sports and as a central contact hub. is based in Germany.

  53. 2021 January 12 2:58 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Speaking of ProtonMail, I will be compiling the contact list this coming weekend. If you have not responded to the protonmail I sent out this past weekend, please do so soon.

  54. 2021 January 12 3:14 pm
    drdog09 permalink

  55. 2021 January 12 3:19 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

  56. 2021 January 12 3:23 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    I don’t think AWS has calculated yet how much it is going to cost them in business. Regardless of one’s political bent, as a manager one has to wonder — “Am I next?”. With that kind of uncertainty many will migrate to other platforms or bring it in-house to avoid the risk. The other thing I will opine is — being pissed at a vendor usually has very long tails. I remember a contract dispute we had with a vendor when I started with GTE and before I left we still had not entertained doing business with them — 23yrs later.

  57. 2021 January 12 3:23 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    Mitch trying to destroy the GOP?

  58. 2021 January 12 4:13 pm
    justrand permalink

    PRP, I can’t imagine Mitch ever doing anything that didn’t serve MITCH. Thus I can’t see him tanking the GOP by doing “Impeachment”…unless there is some other angle in play.

    IF the Senate did go along with this, then the GOP is truly finished.

  59. 2021 January 12 4:53 pm

    54 – Fuck that cunt, worse than her pappy tbh, and not nearly as intelligent politicalwise or otherwise.
    55 – Yup. Plenty have found refuse or from the relative start were wise to have multiple registrations spread across different registrars and gtld’s, hell I think the stormfront people eventually had to find refuge in .ru as I recall reading.

    56 – Yeah proton isn’t bad, I have one, trying to remember my fking password though been ages since I logged in – guess I can reset it since I didn’t have anything I really need to refer back to in there.

    I joined mewe for you guys 🙂 not that really know wtf it is or how to use it, guess it kinda looks like FB of years old.

  60. 2021 January 12 4:53 pm

    61 – What more is even left to destroy?

  61. 2021 January 12 5:01 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    House Republican Chair Liz Cheney: “There Has Never Been a Greater Betrayal by a President – I Will Vote to Impeach President”

  62. 2021 January 12 5:08 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    If Mitch is really going to take a shot at King he better not miss.

  63. 2021 January 12 5:14 pm
    Eph permalink

    64 KH,

    Don’t feed it.

    Remmeber the good ol days and you will understand.

  64. 2021 January 12 5:26 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    70m people is enough to start a new country. Or split an old one.

  65. 2021 January 12 5:47 pm

    57 – haha finally did that just now. 🙂

    58 – But Lamb was re-hired\unsuspended lol.

    59 – What’s the point with a week to go really though? What’s the value in it…really vs cost, whole idea is just beyond dumb, but then again really-dumb-shit seems to be the rule in the last year.

    60 – True organizations tend not to forget, particularly if they don’t have high turn over, so same people around someone is always going to remember. Also when it comes to memories there is the fact most time someone get’s\feels wronged they’re gonna share that with about ~25 avg people over time. When you do them well the avg is 5, so the key is usually avoiding the first. As for AWS… I mean really does anyone there care even if it does cost them? Or anyone else that has cut off services to various parties over the last year? They just don’t care, to big to have to care they think – and in the short term they’re right they are and they don’t because they’ve seen zero $$ repercussions yet.

    67 – 🙂 🙂

  66. 2021 January 12 5:48 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

  67. 2021 January 12 5:50 pm
    Eph permalink

    Breaking news:

    Mitch will vote for impeachment on January 22

  68. 2021 January 12 5:57 pm
    justrand permalink

    Unless Impeachment AFTER he has left office would bar Trump from starting a MAGA Party, then I think Trump will do exactly that. And over half of registered Republicans will switch to that Party.

    Scorched Earth, baybeeeeee!

  69. 2021 January 12 6:00 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    Yes, he would be banned from all Federal office.

  70. 2021 January 12 6:07 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    Mitch’s crazy wife just resigned in protest no doubt has his ear.

    She wants American’s to go die in WW3 fighting China for her home country of Taiwan, and in the mean time she doesn’t want mean Trump to hurt her feelings.

  71. 2021 January 12 6:10 pm
    bc3b permalink

    PresidentRonaldPaul –

    Mitch trying to destroy the GOP?

    That might not be a bad thing.

  72. 2021 January 12 6:11 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    This reminds me of Paul Ryan’s crazy wife brainwashing him.

  73. 2021 January 12 6:14 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    I’ve always thought Mitch has done a good job overall so I’m hoping this is just troll stuff somehow or perhaps some sort of a political maneuvering to get him on record.

  74. 2021 January 12 6:24 pm
    gnqanq permalink

    Martin Armstrong’s model predicted the end of both parties years ago. Seeing it come about before our eyes.

  75. 2021 January 12 6:42 pm
    bc3b permalink

    CNN airport network to shut down March 31:

    Sounds like an opportunity for Faux Noose. by then its viewership should be in double figures.

  76. 2021 January 12 6:53 pm
    Eph permalink

    72 Rand

    So about 15% of all voters.

    Give me the revolution baby!!!

    Naked + single malt of course!!!—

  77. 2021 January 12 6:54 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Former Kalifornia Senator Barbara Boxer is registered Chinese agent:

  78. 2021 January 12 7:05 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    Starting a third party is a waste of time. That’s the kind of stuff that gave us GWB in 2000 instead of Buchanan who was going third party.

    If Trump had run third party in 2016, we’d probably have president Rubio somehow.

  79. 2021 January 12 7:07 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    Of course, I voted third party once GWB had the nomination and again in 2004.

    Also known as the war criminal president 😛

  80. 2021 January 12 7:32 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

  81. 2021 January 12 7:42 pm

    72 – first maga would have to get ballot access as party (and probably at least have one cycle under there belt where they got at least 5%) to be able to even register that way in many states. I think even Trump knows the challenges associated with that from back during the Reform Party days.

  82. 2021 January 12 7:43 pm

    82 – No you would of had president Hilda, and you would have been told to like it. Let’s not forget the bullet that was dodged there for 4 years.

  83. 2021 January 12 7:46 pm

    74 – Never should have been sec of transport anyway, I presume that was just a gift to the turtle, one I wouldn’t have extended as early on as he did. Isn’t Chao splitting up from Turtle now anyway?

  84. 2021 January 12 7:58 pm
    mpt permalink

    50 – thanks for the thoughts regarding Parler and its stupidity at getting caught without any backup plan. It’s my understanding that some of the founders/investors have very deep pockets so it doesn’t sound like not taking precautions would have been financially difficult.

  85. 2021 January 12 8:09 pm
    mpt permalink

    If Mitch is really going to take a shot at King he better not miss.

    I honestly don’t get Mitch and the rest of the RINO’s. Trump got more votes as a Republican than any other Republican in history. If they impeach Trump the Republican party is effectively over. Do these people think the Democrats will give them aid and shelter? What a bunch of morons, but I guess we already knew that.

  86. 2021 January 12 8:45 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Sometime AWS is a tech crutch. AWS frees the manager from capital decisions and having to go to mgt for the cash.

  87. 2021 January 12 8:48 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Ain’t that the truth!

  88. 2021 January 12 8:56 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    New George Gammon Video. I’m a fan of his channel.

    “How the US Helping CHINA Take Over The World”

  89. 2021 January 12 9:21 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    I posted this last thread, and you’ll always be able to find disagreement among lawyers but:
    Alan Dershowitz: Democrats Cannot Impeach Trump, and You Can’t Impeach Him After Leaving Office. “Congress has no power to impeach or try a private citizen, whether it be a private citizen named Donald Trump or named Barack Obama or anyone else.”
    (Harvard grad, law prof Glenn Reynolds says) they can’t disqualify him from running again. The penalty for impeachment only includes disqualification from offices of “trust or profit,” and as Josh Blackman and Seth Barrett Tillman demonstrated some time ago, those offices are appointed, not elected offices.

  90. 2021 January 12 9:29 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    PowerLine blog: “A friend emails: “I just performed a test of Facebook censorship. I posted the iconic photo of Jackie Robinson stealing home, with the caption, ‘Stop the Steal.’ Gone in under 30 seconds. Twice.” (It did finally stick on the third try, though.)”

  91. 2021 January 12 9:44 pm
    justrand permalink

    If Trump started a MAGA Party he would instantly have at least 30 to 40 MILLION people register under it. It would be like no other 3rd Party in history…except maybe when the GOP itself was founded.

    Yes, it would destroy the GOP, and hand the Democrats even more power, but so what? They’re gonna have it anyway.

  92. 2021 January 12 9:45 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Seen on the Internet. The AR15 is true, I don’t have direct knowledge of the right to life.

    “Twitter has removed all right to life posters and GoDaddy just killed the largest gun group they hosted (AR15)”

    Also: “Get off GoDaddy, use Epik. They’ve stood strong against deplatforming for gab for over 3 years now”
    NameCheap was suggested too. They’re based in Russia, less exposed to Woke Pressure.

  93. 2021 January 12 9:48 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Destroying the GOP is dangerous but we’ve already done our best to change their flat tires while the car is still rolling.
    As someone said “At this point, ALL the hills we have left are worth dying on.”

  94. 2021 January 12 9:57 pm

    “Mitch will vote for impeachment on January 22” EPH

    The HOUSE votes for impeachment (indictment), the senate votes to convict or acquit, ERGO mitch has no “impeachment” vote.

  95. 2021 January 12 10:03 pm
    mpt permalink

    Destroying the GOP is dangerous but we’ve already done our best to change their flat tires while the car is still rolling.

    If the Republican leadership is foolish enough to participate in the impeachment of Trump, what difference does it make anyway? It’s dead. Best to accept reality for what it is and move on boldly to whatever the future brings.

  96. 2021 January 13 12:40 am
    JimNorCal permalink

  97. 2021 January 13 6:20 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    Here we go. This is the big Kahuna.

    (Reuters) – Visa Inc said on Tuesday its political action committee had temporarily suspended all donations last week as it reviews its candidate contribution guidelines.

    A host of businesses have said they would cut off campaign contributions to those who voted last week to challenge President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

    “Visa does not tolerate the use of our network and products for illegal activity. We are vigilant in our efforts to deter illegal activity on our network, and we require our affiliate banks to review their merchants’ compliance with our standards,” Visa said in an email.

  98. 2021 January 13 6:58 am
    justrand permalink

    Jim, Visa will VERY selectively apply that policy.

  99. 2021 January 13 1:33 pm

    re: 96 (maga party) see 103|104, they’d starve the baby of donations before it was even out of the womb, and nearly everyone would play along. He’s not going to start any new party imho.

  100. 2021 January 13 7:50 pm
    Eph permalink


    So much for the revolution….

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