Troops Who Refuse Vaccine May Not Get Benefits

2021 November 4
by bc3b

The Biden Regime gives special treatment to illegal aliens (for example, a citizen can be arrested watching a parade, an illegal can’t) and it is determined to do everything it can to “crap all over” citizens. This includes citizens who are willing to lay down their lives in defense of the country.

Service members who refuse “the jab” may not only receive “other than honorable” discharges, but also may be denied benefits normally afforded to veterans. The Biden Regime seems determined to turn over as much weaponry to the Republicans as it did to the Taliban. Now, if Republicans only have the smarts and courage to use them. The Democrats’ entire agenda runs counter to the goals and wishes of working Americans.

The Military Times reports:

Troops who refuse the coronavirus vaccine won’t see any extra protections or leniency in how their dismissals are handled, Defense and Veterans Affairs officials confirmed Wednesday.

Instead, decisions on whether to give those individuals other-than-honorable discharges — potentially blocking them from a host of veterans benefits — will be left to local commanders, and their cases won’t receive any preferential evaluations for veterans’ benefits eligibility, despite recent lobbying from Republicans lawmakers for a less punishing approach.

“We see the vaccine as a readiness issue,” said Gil Cisneros, Defense Department undersecretary for personnel, during testimony before the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee. “Any discharge decision is up to the individual service as to how they proceed with that.”

Earlier on Wednesday, Air Force and Space Force officials announced that about 8,500 airmen missed the Nov. 2 deadline to get the coronavirus vaccine. That represents about 3 percent of the services’ total personnel.

The other military services have similar deadlines in coming weeks.

Cisneros acknowledged concerns from a small portion of the active-duty force about the vaccines but said officials are steadfast in their belief the mandate is needed. As such, the department does not plan to put any special programs or dispensation in place for individuals dismissed for refusing the shots.

VA Deputy Secretary Donald Remy said that those cases will be evaluated by department benefits officials to weigh “mitigating or extenuating circumstances, performance and accomplishments during their service, the nature of the infraction and the character of their service at the time of their discharge.”

That’s standard operation for all veterans, and the department is not planning to handle vaccine refusals in a separate or different way.

Individuals with honorable discharges will be eligible for things like GI Bill benefits, VA home loans and transition assistance programs. Individuals with other-than-honorable discharges are still guaranteed mental health care services through VA, but may be blocked from most other benefits.

Hat Tip: Military Times

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It’s not like members of the military are horoic or make great sacrifices, like illegal aliens.

43 Responses leave one →
  1. 2021 November 4 2:12 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Obama supposedly warned Americans, “Never underestimate Joe Biden’s ability to “f” things up.” What he didn’t tell us was how badly.

  2. 2021 November 4 2:47 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    Web3 models: the coming revolution

  3. 2021 November 4 3:18 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    ACLU says Biden was just not fully briefed when he denied that illegal aliens will be paid $450000 each

  4. 2021 November 4 3:44 pm
    bc3b permalink

    PRP #3 –

    Since its inception (about 100 years ago) the ACLU has hated the US.

  5. 2021 November 4 3:56 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    The Winklessvoss twins are buying up and sponsoring $CUBE metaverse. Would be great to see the them vanguish the facebook metaverse somehow after Zuck stole their company.

  6. 2021 November 4 5:07 pm
    justrand permalink

    Went to have some work done on my truck yesterday, in Oroville (NorCal about 2 hours North of Sacramento).

    BIG sign on the door of auto repair shop: “No Mask Required, God Bless America

    NorthEastern California is still FREE! 🙂

  7. 2021 November 4 5:42 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

  8. 2021 November 4 6:15 pm
    bc3b permalink

    No Mighty MAC games for the next few weeks as they are playing midweek games to be on national cable TV. Central Michigan beat Western Michigan as their punt returner ran two punts back for touchdowns – 70 and 96 yards:

  9. 2021 November 4 9:14 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    I’ve now seen this in a couple places. Anyone else come across it?

    Feel strongly about the OSHA vaccine mandate rule? Do something!
    If anyone wants to jam up the OSHA vaccine mandate rule, you can go to this page and request a meeting with OMB.
    They are required to meet with any interested parties to discuss questions or concerns.
    If a few hundred thousand people request meetings, this rule will be tied up in OMB for years. Spread the word.
    The RIN is: 1218-AD42

  10. 2021 November 5 1:31 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    Interesting but very technical conversation on mass vaxx policy, including Malone a key inventor of mRNA technology and vanden Bossche a premier vaccine researcher.
    They predict current policies will result in multiple waves. Each new wave will strike ever younger populations.

  11. 2021 November 5 3:50 am
    drdog09 permalink


    I turned off the video as soon as I heard the host say “front run the opportunity…..”. For the old adage says “If you walk into the casino and can’t recognize the pigeon; its you.” When the standard market and the digital market are pumped and dumped by algorithms, a retail player is always the pigeon. No offense.

  12. 2021 November 5 4:02 am
    drdog09 permalink


    What they discuss in that piece has already been proven in chickens. Commercial chicken producers are already in MERs induced ADE-Vaxx-autoimmune box. The best move was not to play.

  13. 2021 November 5 4:15 am
    drdog09 permalink

    The Karma Wheel turns again —

  14. 2021 November 5 4:23 am
    drdog09 permalink


    is it Covid or is it the Vaxx?? — — Even the leadership is starting to wonder.

  15. 2021 November 5 4:36 am
    drdog09 permalink

  16. 2021 November 5 6:18 am
    justrand permalink

    Drdog, the shipping container pictures appear to show them being used as “funnels”, with armed Humvees in the gaps.

    Now if those Humvees were to fire a few .50 caliber rounds over the heads of the approaching caravans…

  17. 2021 November 5 6:46 am
    justrand permalink

    Big Pharma has raked in hundreds of BILLIONS of $$$$$ with the Covid scam. So they can and will either BUY, BULLY or BURY anyone who threatens their gravy train.

  18. 2021 November 5 7:34 am
    justrand permalink

    fascinating…I read the whole thing, and was stunned by how utterly inept the DA is. Apparently the DA was told that we’re gonna hang this kid anyway, you’re just there for the pretense of legitimacy.

    oops…at least so far

  19. 2021 November 5 7:41 am
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    Is your community a cancer spot via air pollution?

    plug in zip code from propublica research that was recently covered on apple news daily

  20. 2021 November 5 7:56 am
    JustMary permalink

    #3 I think this is how they are paying off coyotes and/or paying for the caravans in general. If you separate an adult male “family member” for the safety of the child they brought across and the dude claims this was traumatic, then explain how the percentage is so high of kids who were brought here and unclaimed. If I remember correctly, the number was close to 90%. To me, this is nothing more than hush money or a payoff. Sure would explain how these folks are showing up well fed in flip flops from countries that require more than your ability to walk long distances to arrive.

  21. 2021 November 5 8:00 am
    JustMary permalink

    #14 My local hospital put out a desperate ad late summer for Covid unit ER nurses with huge salary offers. The requirement? Must be familiar with working with stroke victims. But yeah, totally not the jab’s fault. What is happening in Australia is the jab, imo.

  22. 2021 November 5 8:03 am
    JustMary permalink

    #6 Whereas I can no longer eat in any restaurant in LA County without showing my papers (please). If any restaurant wants to thumb their noses at this ruling, we will happily patronize them. If not? We will happily drive to another county and spend money there instead.

  23. 2021 November 5 8:09 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    14, yes that one straightened me up too. What is going on?
    We had a heartbreaking NextDoor post here from the Mom of a CA firefighter. Both her daughter and others in that team were required to get the jab and 3 of them, in the prime of health, had heart attacks.
    Now 5 year olds with no danger from the virus are being “encouraged” to get stabbed so they won’t have long quarantines when others get infected but they are exposed. And it will make travel simpler, say school authorities.

  24. 2021 November 5 8:12 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    Just a few seconds video. Note how MicroSoft presenters at a tele conference talk.
    They introduce their ethnicity, their hair style, pronouns and talk about the campus being on Indian land.

    One guy said “Hispanic” instead of “Latinx” though.
    One of the commenters notes that this sort of lunacy might explain why there is no “M” in the FAANG group of popular tech stocks.

  25. 2021 November 5 8:27 am
    justrand permalink

    JM, if they ask for “Vaccination Papers”, ask them (sweetly) “do you mean my Measels, Mumps, Tetanis, Polio, or Smallpox papers? And don’t you want to know if I have or have been exposed to Dyptheria, AIDS, Hepatitis, Malaria or Yellow Fever…all of which are MUCH more contagious than Covid?”

    P.s. Happy Birthday!

  26. 2021 November 5 8:36 am
    JustMary permalink

    #25 That’s the thing!!!! I could expose them to a whole host of crap if I were like Gavin Newsom’s daughter- who, according to him, at 12 years of age- still requires a “series of vaccinations” before she can get the jab. What vaccines would she still need at age 12????? Think of how dangerous someone like that would be to a restaurant in LA, yet, I imagine she’d have no problem gaining entry because of who her daddy is.

    And thanks 🙂

  27. 2021 November 5 8:39 am
    JustMary permalink

    #23 Not worth the risk, imo.

  28. 2021 November 5 10:14 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    Tim Pool is a former Dem who posts on YouTube.
    I guess he got the ‘Rona.

    Tim Pool
    i tested negative this morning
    people seem to be big mad that I got better
    sorry for not dying

  29. 2021 November 5 10:20 am
    drdog09 permalink


    All I can say is what the WH says, “lower your expectations….er sights.”

  30. 2021 November 5 10:27 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Tim Pool is the Walter Cronkite for the Zoomer generation. The likes of MSNBC, CNN need to watch out as Tim usually a couple of days in a week has numbers that are better than theirs and he is now building a syndicate of reporters across the country.

  31. 2021 November 5 10:29 am
    drdog09 permalink

  32. 2021 November 5 10:37 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    30, I didn’t know that. Interesting. Build a reporter network from the ground up

  33. 2021 November 5 11:39 am
    JustMary permalink

    #28 I guess he did the kitchen sink approach like Joe did. Same thing I would do if I got it. I do find it interesting though that anti-parasitical treatments work as well as they do. I have some old timey vermouth that has two kinds of wormwood in it that could actually work if my theory on it is correct. Is covid a parasite?

  34. 2021 November 5 1:12 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Gearing up for the weekend in the Windy City – 12 shot; 1 fatally yesterday:

  35. 2021 November 5 1:53 pm
    justrand permalink

    KH, do you know the difference between the FBI and the Gestapo??

    Me neither.

  36. 2021 November 5 2:00 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    The Gestapo had snazzier uniforms.

  37. 2021 November 5 2:09 pm
    PresidentRonaldPaul permalink

    newest nightmare from our TERRIBLE politicians in DC

  38. 2021 November 5 6:08 pm

    “UPDATE 1830 EST – The CT Secretary of State has increased the votes received for Alma Sarelli 335% after Westport residents contacted the town and the Secretary of State regarding fraudulent vote totals.

    If there was this big an ‘error’ in votes for a BOE candidate, what else is wrong with the ‘results’ of last Tuesday’s election?”

    Apparently they were not counting the write-in votes in 6 out of 9 pcts/districts?

  39. 2021 November 5 6:11 pm

    38/39 – And from my recollection didn’t try to pretend they’re out there protecting the citizenry, just the State.

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