In a Saner Era …

2021 December 4
by bc3b
  • Joe Biden never received >3% of votes in a Democratic presidential primary
  • GLBTQ and those questioning their own biological gender were ignored
  • US citizens had greater rights than illegal aliens
  • Drug use among minors was almost non-existent; bad @$$ teens smoked cigarettes
  • Public schools taught actual history and inspired patriotism
  • Success in school was becoming proficient in English, math, science, etc. …  not becoming politically correct
  • The elites worked at bringing people and races together, rather than dividing them
  • Colleges encouraged students to be open-minded and discouraged censorship
  • The media may have been somewhat biased, but strove for objectivity in news coverage and would have been concerned if a majority of Americans distrusted them
  • The media supported values, not homosexually, transgenderism and anti-Americanism
  • The US welcomed immigrants who could make a positive contribution, not immigrants looking for a lifetime on the dole
  • Abortion was illegal and almost all Americans considered it morally wrong
  • Looters were shot
  • The FBI was never confused with the KGB, SS or Stasi
  • Weekly church attendance was normal, not a rarity
  • The Democratic Party was left of center, not crazy left
  • Anyone could be considered a racist, not just white people
  • Major league athletes earned 3-4 times what the ordinary American made … not more than the entire Baltimore Orioles or Pittsburgh Pirates team salaries
  • A majority of Americans supported US Olympic teams as our Olympians gave them no reason not too
  • Corporations were apolitical, never taking sides on political issues

Add your thoughts …

To help those suffering from withdrawal.

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  1. 2021 December 4 7:14 am
    drdog09 permalink

    …. The NSA was not needed and hence was disbanded.
    …. There was no such thing as ______ – Studies at universities.

  2. 2021 December 4 8:45 am
    bc3b permalink

    Just 15 years ago, men using women’s restrooms was unthinkable.

  3. 2021 December 4 8:56 am
    bc3b permalink

  4. 2021 December 4 8:57 am
    bc3b permalink

    From the previous thread:

    drdog09 –

    Donors are getting wise —

  5. 2021 December 4 8:59 am
    bc3b permalink

    From the previous thread:

    drdog09 –


    Sorta like this? —

  6. 2021 December 4 9:01 am
    bc3b permalink

    From the previous thread:

    mpt –

    Better video here:

  7. 2021 December 4 9:02 am
    bc3b permalink

  8. 2021 December 4 9:03 am
    bc3b permalink

    From the previous thread:

    mpt –

    What really blows my mind is they don’t even have the courage to put bars on the pods, but instead paint yellow lines on the ground and tell the people “Cross that line and it’s a $5000 fine.” Talk about psychological torture — submit to the petty bureaucrats or ruin yourself financially.

  9. 2021 December 4 11:45 am
    mpt permalink

    Get a load of this…

    Up to 300,000 people facing heart-related illnesses due to post-pandemic stress disorder, warn physicians

    Up to 300,000 people in the UK are facing heart-related illnesses due to post-pandemic stress disorder (PPSD), two London physicians have warned. This could result in a 4.5 percent rise in cardiovascular cases nationally because of the effects of PPSD, with those aged between 30 to 45 most at-risk, they claim.

    There wasn’t anything else going on at this time so it must be the stress. Perhaps these doctors should read the warnings from the American Heart Association which haven’t yet been entirely censored.

    The comments are pretty good. 🙂

  10. 2021 December 4 1:45 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Must be … the stress. Yeah, “that’s the ticket”.

    Meanwhile, Oz just as bad as Deutschland.

    It all began when a friend of hers tested positive. She recounts how investigators came to her home shortly afterwards, having run the numberplate of her scooter to identify her as a ‘close contact’. They asked if she had done a Covid test, and in the moment she lied and said she had, when she in fact had not yet. This set in train an extraordinary series of events.

    “So then the police officers blocked my driveway,” she says. “I walked out and I said, “what’s going on, are you guys testing me for COVID? What’s happening?” They said, “no, you’re getting taken away. And you have no choice. You’re going to Howard Springs. You either come with us now, and we’ll put you in the back of the divvy van. Or you can have a choice to get a ‘COVID cab’… I just said, “I don’t consent to this. I don’t understand why I can’t just self-isolate at home, like a lot of other people are doing.” And they just said, “we’ve just been told from higher up where to take you. And that’s all that there is.”…

    She was tested three times during the 14 days, and on each occasion tested negative…

    At no stage was she reminded of her rights or put in contact with a lawyer.

    This has all taken place in a state that has recorded a total of 290 cases and no deaths.

  11. 2021 December 4 2:46 pm

    3 – At the going rate, quicker than any of us probably imagines.

    9 – PPSD?… oh looky a new thing for them to ‘treat’. How about it’s ‘plain’ old PTSD… but can’t say that, cause then they’d have to acknowledge that government(s) actions have induced said mental trauma(s) (not to mention other hardships or deaths for that matter).

    10 – She just found out the hard way that “I do not consent” is meaningless without her and a similarly minded posse pointing weapons back at the trespassers. AU/DM/elsewhere including here – pure insanity ruling the day, and not just among the ‘rulers’ but the ruled.

  12. 2021 December 4 3:46 pm

  13. 2021 December 4 4:25 pm

    …of real interest was this: “Judge Winsor did, however, reject a preliminary injunction requested by 16 service members against the U.S. military’s Chinese Virus injection mandate. A hearing for that case is scheduled for Sept. 14, 2022, which is nearly 10 months down the road.”

    So the fastest they could get a hearing for a matter than is pressing presently is a year away, when fallout and damage will have already been done?

  14. 2021 December 4 4:31 pm

    Tobin survives but Chris gets canned for xmas.

    I guess with the brother out of office, not to mention the brother facing additional challenges, and no ability to draw ratings (applies to all cnn’s line up), why pay big bucks when you could slip any intern into the slot and get about the same results. Just no longer much use to them, it certainly isn’t any lying or unethical behavior that actually matters, else they’re fire just about everyone working at the network.
    Believe this when I see it, not that even if they did I expect the ‘straight news’ to actually be anything remotely resembling such, it may just mean less commentary\personalities and just more repetitive programing, probably think they can get less flak for the bias if it’s not as tied to known faces.

    Hilarious these two are still employed…

  15. 2021 December 4 4:53 pm

    BTW if they were serious about changing things up Zuker would be gone.

    Also will be interesting if Tucker addresses this come monday, or if he ducks it.

  16. 2021 December 4 4:56 pm
    bc3b permalink

    In a saner era:

    * All lives mattered

    * Common sense and reason prevailed over feelings

  17. 2021 December 4 5:02 pm
    bc3b permalink

    KH #14 –

    There are rumors that CNN’s new management wants to take it back to its roots and end its run as a propaganda channel.

  18. 2021 December 4 5:04 pm
    bc3b permalink

    KH #15 –

    Makes one wonder if Tucker is really committed to conservativism or uses it as a viewer magnet.

  19. 2021 December 4 5:12 pm

    18 – IDK, in Tuckers defense (from what I’ve seen anyway I don’t watch fnc), he’s gone nearly as hard as anyone I could name in media world against Hunter, including when it mattered pre-election (from what I remember…and internet clips seen since). I less wonder\care about what he says specifically about it, vs if he just doesn’t address it and tries to ignore it.

    17 – I added onto that post including about that, I’ll believe it when it actually happens lol.

  20. 2021 December 4 5:29 pm

    Pain coming to many PA electric bills this month.
    If wondering the two largest increases pike co and PPL service eastern border, and eastern+central areas of PA respective. Looks like Philadelphia escapes the biggest increases from what I can tell.

  21. 2021 December 4 5:38 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Irony of ironies:

    Hired because he was a Cuomo; fired because he was a Cuomo. I suspect the new management forced it.

    The transition won’t happen overnight. If it is going back to the original format, it will include sports and human interest features (as the early Today shows did). CNN morphed into hard-core leftist propaganda 24/7.

    It appears his “white privilege” has been cancelled.

  22. 2021 December 4 7:39 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Cuomo: Be the “quit” in “equity”! Turn your job over to a person of color.

  23. 2021 December 4 8:08 pm

    In a Saner Era …

    – One didn’t have to worry about their car and (insert a dozen other things here) spying on them, let alone it being made law.

  24. 2021 December 5 5:27 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Looks like I will be keeping the 91 dodge and 2000 ford a tad longer. Thank goodness parts are readily available.

  25. 2021 December 5 5:35 am
    drdog09 permalink

    As to CNN, or any other news org. There is no reason that networks need to be paying the huge salaries that they do for ‘network anchors’. The virtual reality tech is sufficiently advanced that an artificial avatar could announce the news.

  26. 2021 December 5 2:35 pm

    Thought I heard this the other day…. thought it was fucking joke or one of those ‘thinking’ about for purposes of just keeping name in news.

    I’m sure the usual suspects will be throwing money toward this jackass. No thanks.

  27. 2021 December 5 3:57 pm

  28. 2021 December 5 5:29 pm
    justrand permalink

    When I was in High School (a lonnng time ago) in the San Fernando Valley, I worked for a McDonalds that was owned by a man who owned 3 McDonalds in that end of The Valley.

    The policy when I started there HAD been that when cops came up to the window, or drove around back (which they usually did) you offered them FREE FOOD! McDonalds food was VERY inexpensive back then, so it cost the owner damn near nothing. At any time day or night a cop MIGHT drive up, and the bad guys knew it…so none of the three restaurants had EVER been robbed (and he had owned them for years). The police made a point of driving through our parking lot at closing time, and if we had leftover food (which we always made sure we did) we would give it to them.

    One day the policy at all three restaurants changed: NO FREE FOOD for cops. Period. And any food leftover at the end of the night was to thrown in the dumpster.

    Word got out.

    Over the next month all three restaurants were robbed, at gunpoint. One of the restaurants was robbed twice. After the fourth robbery…and when virtually EVERY employee (including me) threatened to quit…the policy was reversed and we were ENCOURAGED to give food to the cops.

    Word got out…the cops started cruising by, especially at closing time.

    None of the restaurants was robbed again.

  29. 2021 December 5 8:08 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    A report from SAfrica says that 3/4 of omicron infections are incidental.
    In other words,
    Person comes to the hospital for something else
    They have omicron Covid but so mild they’re unaware
    Routine test run by the hospital as part of admission shows them to be infected

  30. 2021 December 5 8:58 pm
    mpt permalink

    Well, folks, particularly “fight on”, it looks like my son will be moving in a few months into a new starter home in Hutto, Texas. From Google street view, the town looks very rural, but I suspect the area will be changing dramatically over the next few years with Samsung building a $17B chip fabrication factory just a few miles to the East in Taylor.

    By the way, don’t worry about another “Kalifornia” liberal turning the state blue. My son is anything, but liberal, but probably a bit more libertarian than traditional conservative. He was attracted to the Austin area, not because of its leftist ways, but because of areas growth potential and the opportunity it might bring to a young hard worker.

    My wife and I will probably be visiting again next April, or so, to help him move and set up the home. We didn’t get a chance to see much during our first trip, but hopefully, we’ll have more time to check out the area.

  31. 2021 December 5 9:21 pm
    mpt permalink

    Does anyone have thoughts regarding the “Patriot’s Front” march in Washington, DC? Not being covered by any press, which is very suspicious. Scuttlebutt in the nether regions of the Internet is that the Patriot’s Front is such an obvious false “psyop” to fit the “white supremacist are everywhere narrative” that even the leftist media don’t want to touch it. They are a bit gunshy after the blow-ups in the run-up to the Virginia gubernatorial election. The group is probably organized by the FBI as a honeypot as nobody has ever heard of this group before and they seemed to have evaporated after the march was over.

    Any other ideas?

  32. 2021 December 6 5:29 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Almost identical to a local shake shop I worked at one summer. He never changed policy though. The owner also had the rule if an officer walked in with a thermos we filled it with coffee for free.

  33. 2021 December 6 5:35 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Where I teach, TSTC, has an extension campus in Hutto. Know the team down there pretty well. I can pass along their contact info if you want it.

    Here is Abbott talking up semis plants —

  34. 2021 December 6 5:43 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Nailed it. Pretty much a repeat of the VA thing without the tiki torches.

  35. 2021 December 6 5:50 am
    drdog09 permalink

  36. 2021 December 6 6:20 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    No idea about Patriot Front but lots of skepticism expressed online. No one seems to know anyone involved

    A doctor in the UK who was banned from using social media by the General Medical Council for claiming “masks do nothing” has won his case in the High Court.

  37. 2021 December 6 6:44 am
    drdog09 permalink

    So ask yourself — — Was it ‘just discovered’, or did the Chins have the antibody ID’d before the WuFlu was released? Then the second question would be why would they unless they are getting hammered for lack of global sales?

    Too convenient me thinks.

  38. 2021 December 6 7:58 am
    bc3b permalink

    JR #33 –

    That was during a saner era – what this thread isn all about. Today a minority of crazies rule things.

  39. 2021 December 6 8:08 am
    mpt permalink

    Too convenient me thinks.

    I share your skepticism. Wouldn’t it be fairly easy to obtain samples of the vaccines/treatments used internally to China to see if they were targeting this particular part of the virus? If so, that would be a pretty damning smoking gun. Not that Biden or the deep state would ever do anything if it was discovered China was acting in bad faith throughout the pandemic.

  40. 2021 December 6 8:26 am

    42 – hmmm.
    36 – idk but to me it screamed obvious paid provocateurs, be it .gov (most likely), or otherwise. The short lived coverage is probably because of what you mentioned, so obvious, and produced nothing but questions questions about the group and who funded it… questions they curiously don’t want answered.

  41. 2021 December 6 8:31 am
    mpt permalink

    38, I’ll keep that in mind if the opportunity arises. My son has developed a cynicism about formal education that I’m hoping he’ll outgrow as he matures and gains a broader perspective on life. Right now he’s starting at the bottom rung of auto repair and we’ll see if it is something he’s willing to stick with for the long haul. His ambition is to one day own and run his own shop. I’ll have a lot more discussions with him during the Holidays to see how things are going.

  42. 2021 December 6 8:32 am
    justrand permalink

    An unintentionally hillarious headline: “Russians Smelling Weakness’ in Biden

    That’s like saying: “Scientists detect softness in marshmallows.

  43. 2021 December 6 9:14 am
    mpt permalink

    I see De Blasio is doubling down by mandating vaccines for all private business employees in New York City by December 27th. The chaos that will erupt from this should be interesting. Bear in mind, ~80% of blacks in NYC are still unvaxxed.

    Something has gotta snap soon. The left is now out to brutalize and destroy the lives of normal citizens. You think saner heads on their side would be telling them to cool it before a power-hungry politician like De Blasio sets off something that can’t be controlled or stopped.

  44. 2021 December 6 9:15 am
    drdog09 permalink


    I was thinking more along the lines of having someone to assist in a emergency should the need arise. Its good to know someone could have your back if the need arose.

    Two occupations that will be hot at least for Texas. Electronics with a focus on EV repair and the associated dodads in cars these days. (I know a guy who does after market electronics and he has a 6mos waiting list.) The other is semiconductor tech. As far as I know, there is no training but on the job for that occupation. Multibillion $$ investments assure long term employment if you are good at it.

  45. 2021 December 6 9:18 am
    drdog09 permalink


    I keep telling Putin that the KGB dumpster diving for Biden’s Depends is not a good indicator of his mental state.

  46. 2021 December 6 9:27 am
    mpt permalink

    Here is a link to the De Blasio mandates. This is to go into effect just days before he leaves office.

  47. 2021 December 6 9:33 am

    49 Just saw that as well as this…

    New Brunswick Canada – No jabs, no food, is approved – in addition to no air or rail travel.

    I’d be curious how long it takes after any place choosing to deny access before sabotage, infestations, fires, or worse start happening to the joint, let alone possibly to owners and employees.

  48. 2021 December 6 9:35 am

    52 – You also don’t (least not yet) hear the new incoming mayor saying a word about immediately revoking said bullshit, effectively making it null and void.

  49. 2021 December 6 9:45 am
    mpt permalink

    I’d be curious how long it takes after any place choosing to deny access before sabotage, infestations, fires, or worse start happening to the joint, let alone possibly to owners and employees.

    Create a large population of formerly law-abiding, productive people who are now left destitute and with no stake in the system. Not even their vote counts anymore. Let’s see how that works out.

  50. 2021 December 6 9:48 am
    justrand permalink

    ya gotta, um, “love” the WaPo. Headline: ““Flash mob” robberies roiling U.S. retailers, traumatizing workers

    (a) they left out the “traumatizing” of CUSTOMERS
    (b) WaPo was one of the cheerleaders for “Bail Reform”, “Defund the Police” and BLM

    WaPo, NYTimes, and all the rest, REFUSE to identify what the “youths” look like that comprise 99% of these “Flash mobs” (and that the Democrat/media/Leftist cabal CREATED these “Flash mobs”)

    The last two generations of Black children in America (aka: “Inner City Youths”) have been told:
    – you are VICTIMS
    – America OWES you EVERYTHING…and if they won’t GIVE it to you, then you should go TAKE it
    – BLACK lives matter…thus other lives don’t matter so much
    – Whatever you do you will be held BLAMELESS!!

    Those last two generations of Black children are teens and young adults now. They have received the messages the Democrat/media/Leftist cabal has sent out…and they are acting accordingly.

  51. 2021 December 6 9:53 am

    Sounds fine to me… only if the same teachers union agrees to a 20% reduction in pay? Like that’s gonna happen.

    “The Portland Teachers Union asked to cancel in-person classes for high school students once a week beginning after winter break to help educators and students “adjust to the stresses” of returning to the classroom since the start of the pandemic”

    Oh cry me a river over the “stresses” of returning back to something resembling normal.

    “a Portland Public School teacher told the district that the extra time for teachers to prepare lesson plans is vital because teachers are considering leaving the profession given the longer work weeks to make up for time lost during the pandemic.”

    Oh bullshit….vast majority ain’t planning on leaving, then they’d end up having to find jobs where they’d likely have to work just as hard if not harder, with less flexibility, less protection\cover, and more accountability. So unless they’re all eyeing government work, I call bs.

    “The Teachers Union also proposed that students in grades K-8 would either arrive two hours late or be sent home two hours early to give teachers more time to prepare lessons. The union alleges that teachers are struggling to develop plans that make up for lost learning because of the pandemic.”

    You realize the impact that has on parents… nah they don’t care. If the cared at all, especially about kids and their education they never would have shutdown in-person instruction to begin with.

  52. 2021 December 6 10:18 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Public school systems, and hence their unions, are rapidly making themselves irrelevant. There all sorts of avenues to achieve instruction these days.

  53. 2021 December 6 10:38 am
    bc3b permalink

    Publik Skuuls have three major problems:

    1. Left-wing school boards
    2. Activist teachers working to indoctrinate students
    3. Teachers unions, which have no interest in improving the quality of education or improving the lot of students (or even teachers) but simply pushing far left ideology.

  54. 2021 December 6 11:27 am
    gnqanq permalink

    mpt – Does anyone have thoughts regarding the “Patriot’s Front” march in Washington, DC? Not being covered by any press, which is very suspicious. Scuttlebutt in the nether regions of the Internet is that the Patriot’s Front is such an obvious false “psyop” to fit the “white supremacist are everywhere narrative” that even the leftist media don’t want to touch it. They are a bit gunshy after the blow-ups in the run-up to the Virginia gubernatorial election. The group is probably organized by the FBI as a honeypot as nobody has ever heard of this group before and they seemed to have evaporated after the march was over.

    Any other ideas?

    mpt – from what I read over on AR15, they believe maybe Gov organized (like you think) BUT they have seen some websites linked to the group and they sound like Fascists like the Nazi’s. They kind of have a national socialists view about purity, individual property BUT with a nationalists perspective.

    Just look at how they dress and march – all wearing the same uniform. “Patriots Front” sounds like some type of Nationalists Group. Not the good kind.

  55. 2021 December 6 2:54 pm

    “Patriots Front”====An obvious sting op that failed miserably. Any group that has “front” in it’s name is of a leftist bent.

  56. 2021 December 6 3:26 pm
    bc3b permalink

    The laptop fron hell continues to bear fruit:

    In 2018 Hunter Biden and Walmart CEO discussed plans to stop Trump:

    I’d love to boycott Walmart, but I’ve seldom lowered myself to shop there.

  57. 2021 December 6 5:31 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    bc, LOL.
    I’ve ordered a couple of mail-order items so that I can avoid Amazon so now I am SOL.

    There is a group called the Unity Project that puts out info on Covid. They are especially focused on the dangers of vaxxing teens and kids now. I guess there is still pushback by The Man:

    Looking for our videos? It seems The Unity Project has a hit a nerve and we’ve been deplatformed for sharing the truth. We are working to find a new video hosting site and should have our webinars and podcasts back live on the site very soon.

  58. 2021 December 6 5:34 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    bc, I got off my lazy butt and “Duck’ed” the weekend carnage (on DuckDuckGo)

    When your lib friends talk about the horror of white supremacist gun violence in suburban Michigan, keep the ongoing ChiTown story in mind ….

  59. 2021 December 6 5:42 pm

    I make it a point to have no lib friends.

  60. 2021 December 6 6:25 pm
    JimNorCal permalink


  61. 2021 December 6 8:09 pm
    mpt permalink

    In the wake of Austria’s drastic lockdown of unvaccinated people, EU chief calls for throwing out Nuremberg Code

    Ursula Van Der Leyen, the head of the EU commission, told the press on Wednesday that she is in favour of scrapping the long-standing Nuremburg Code and forcing people to get vaccinated against COVID.

    As I said the other day, we’ve gone from “Never again!” to “Hey, once a century ain’t so bad.”

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