WE, Are the Enemy

2010 July 22
by drdog09

Daily Caller lays out more from the Journo files. This time the focus is on reactions to the selection of Palin by McCain. —

As the morning wore on into the afternoon, some on Journolist came to believe the Palin pick had been shrewd. Palin was coming off as appealing and a maverick, they worried.

“Okay, let’s get deadly serious, folks. Grating voice or not, ‘inexperienced’ or not, Sarah Palin’s just been introduced to the country as a brave, above-party, oil-company-bashing, pork-hating maverick ‘outsider’,” Kilgore said, “What we can do is to expose her ideology.”

And …

Time’s Joe Klein then linked to his own piece, parts of which he acknowledged came from strategy sessions on Journolist. “Here’s my attempt to incorporate the accumulated wisdom of this august list-serve community,” he wrote. And indeed Klein’s article contained arguments developed by his fellow Journolisters. Klein praised Palin personally, calling her “fresh” and “delightful,” but questioned her “militant” ideology. He noted Palin had endorsed parts of Obama’s energy proposal.

That was all on the day of the announcement.


So what we have here is a fixed mindset. In the first entry above the inquiring minds on the list were not looking at ‘is she a good pick or not’ but instead what is the proper line of attack. Another words, McCain could have picked Scoop Jackson and the list would have framed an attack plan.

In the second it brings into question what has become a common practice among the journalistic (or is that jingoistic?) community — the anonymous source. The ‘from a reliable source offered on background only…’ shtick. The question could be raised as to whether the ‘anonymous sources’ are merely the Journolist itself and not members of, or former members of administration, Congress, etc.

The bottom line is, if you are not with THEM then you are a target. If you are an independent politician, you are a target. If you are a member of the GOP you are certainly a target. And if you oppose the administration you are a target. Which means about 3/4ths of the country.

The full Journolist archive needs to be opened up for public viewing. We need Journogate exposure, for this is not journalism, this is Chavez class thuggery with a pen.

Here’s a listing of known JournoList members:
1. Ezra Klein
2. Dave Weigel
3. Matthew Yglesias
4. David Dayen
5. Spencer Ackerman
6. Jeffrey Toobin
7. Eric Alterman
8. Paul Krugman
9. John Judis
10. Eve Fairbanks
11. Mike Allen
12. Ben Smith
13. Lisa Lerer
14. Joe Klein
15. Brad DeLong
16. Chris Hayes
17. Matt Duss
18. Jonathan Chait
19. Jesse Singal
20. Michael Cohen
21. Isaac Chotiner
22. Katha Pollitt
23. Alyssa Rosenberg
24. Rick Perlstein
25. Alex Rossmiller
26. Ed Kilgore
27. Walter Shapiro
28. Noam Scheiber
29. Michael Tomasky
30. Rich Yesels
31. Tim Fernholz
32. Dana Goldstein
33. Jonathan Cohn
34. Scott Winship
35. David Roberts
36. Luke Mitchell
37. John Blevins
38. Moira Whelan
39. Henry Farrell
40. Josh Bearman
41. Alec McGillis
42. Greg Anrig
43. Adele Stan
44. Steven Teles
45. Harold Pollack
46. Adam Serwer
47. Ryan Donmoyer
48. Seth Michaels
49. Kate Steadman
50. Matt Duss
51. Laura Rozen
52. Jesse Taylor
53. Michael Hirsh
54. Daniel Davies
55. Jonathan Zasloff
56. Richard Kim
57. Thomas Schaller
58. Jared Bernstein
59. Holly Yeager
60. Joe Conason
61. David Greenberg
62. Todd Gitlin
63. Mark Schmitt
64. Kevin Drum
65. Sarah Spitz
30 Responses leave one →
  1. 2010 July 22 5:59 am
    justrand permalink

    drdog, your closing line: “this is not journalism, this is Chavez class thuggery with a pen.” is an absolute classic…and absolutely spot on.

    The members of this despicable list were terrified that the selection of Sarah Palin might de-rail their collective orgasm. So, with ZERO knowledge of her, and ZERO attempt to fairly portray her they set about constructing a damaging narrative within minutes of her selection.

    The postings released so far, map exactly to what nearly every media outlet in the nation led with the next day. This utterly disgusting group was successful…and has a real taste for the power they accumulated in the process.

    Something wicked this way comes…

  2. 2010 July 22 6:28 am
    drdog09 permalink

    JR, thanks.

    I hope the taste of power lasts as long as a Stride gum, for the more this gets exposed the weaker they all will become.

    Were I Breitbart I would get a copy of what DC has. Then I would go after the boardrooms of every major media outlet that had a participant. Most of these outfits have employment contracts requiring among other things, clear authorship for the purposes of publishing. Something not possible if most of the content came off the list from the minds of others. There are also matters about collusion that might come into play from the FTC in matters related to joint operating companies of many papers in some markets. (though this might be iffy and would required deep analysis from specialists in the field which I am not. )

  3. 2010 July 22 6:32 am
    bc3b permalink

    Hopefully JournoList will be the thing that convinces the majority of the American people that the mainstream media cannot and should not be believed. Although, I’m sure this story isn’t getting a great deal of play in MSM.

  4. 2010 July 22 6:35 am
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 –

    I hope you don’t mind, but I have added the names of 65 known JournoList members to your post.

  5. 2010 July 22 6:48 am
    drdog09 permalink

    BC, thx.

    And another consideration. File suit for an injunction against Washington Post to not destroy the contents of the list. Not only that but show evidence that they have the archives to the court. Its a crime to destroy evidence. And who says that a lawsuit might develop out of what is being revealed.

  6. 2010 July 22 6:49 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Lets keep updating the list of known agents of The List.

  7. 2010 July 22 6:50 am
    MI Conservative permalink

    Hey bc, I brought the Tigers luck last nite and hope to do the same today!!!

    Beer $7.50!!!!! Highway robbery.

  8. 2010 July 22 7:02 am
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Welcome to the authoririan state!

  9. 2010 July 22 7:09 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Welcome to the authoririan state!

    Agreed. But lets not slip up and use the word authoritative. That has clearly been shown to not be the case! 🙂

  10. 2010 July 22 7:13 am
    mulletover permalink

    First, excellent thread!

    Ethics cross most, if not all, professions. Doctors, lawyers (huh?), medical professionals, realtors, law enforcement, CPAs (my own profession), educators, all perform their professional duties under some self-imposed structure of ethical standards. These standards are recognized by the public and by the courts to be valid and enforceable. Good and honest people operating in those professions hold these standards to be their highest demand.

    Journalism stands apart from any of the above. They alone have their profession protected by the Constitution, and their ethical standard implied by that document to be pure…..a free press.

    How then has the profession of journalism fallen from such a lofty perch? What event caused such a fall from grace? Watergate? Reagan’s ascendancy to the Presidency? Clinton’s DNA spill?

    Whatever it was, the American people are the victims, and are much poorer for it.

    And damn the perpetrators.

  11. 2010 July 22 7:17 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Oh Goody! Now FOIA at DHS is being filtered thru political appointees as to final arbiters of release.

  12. 2010 July 22 7:32 am
    bc3b permalink

    MI Conservative –

    I am going to see the Lansing Lugnuts next Thursday. It’s a “Thursty Thursday” so LaBatt’s Blues are $2 a bottle.

  13. 2010 July 22 7:58 am
    justrand permalink

    btw, in reading through the “Journolist” material the utter IRONY just jumps out at ya. This group continuously refers to FoxNews as “FauxNews” or “FixedNews”…and then turns around and ponders aloud on how to insert false stories and innuendo into the news. Amazing!

  14. 2010 July 22 8:06 am
    janzam permalink

    If you notice on today’s Drudge, media and newpapers were way down in the “confidence” chart — one being 22% and the other 25%. Congress is last, with 11% of people having confidence in them. The dopes of the country make up that percentage!

    The only names I’m familiar with on that list are: both Kleins, Yglesias, Toobin, Krugman (of course), Mike Allen (is he the guy from Politico?), Ben Smith, Chait, Kilgore and Rozen. The others must be unknowns or smaller players.

  15. 2010 July 22 8:09 am
    janzam permalink

    Good point, Justrand, in #13. I guess small minds are oblivious to such obvious irony!

  16. 2010 July 22 8:43 am
    drdog09 permalink

    JR, 13.

    Maybe we ought to start calling the MSM the Vichy Press. Their motto — “All the News that is Fit for The List.”

  17. 2010 July 22 9:05 am
    TLS permalink

    For those that don’t know, 62. Todd Gitlin in one of the original members of the Weather Underground with Bill Ayers.

  18. 2010 July 22 9:05 am
    bc3b permalink

    Janzam –

    This is only a partial list. There are over 100 more members.

  19. 2010 July 22 9:36 am

    I can’t wait to see the final list. Fred Barnes wrote a WSJ article headlined The Vast Left Wing Media Conspiracy (98,800 Google results at this moment!).

    Unlike Hilary’s conspiracy, this one is real: validated and documented.

  20. 2010 July 22 9:40 am

    mullet: What event caused such a fall from grace? Watergate?

    I think Watergate gave them their halos of self-righteous arbiters of the “truth” and “right way of viewing life and the world.” Add that to the heady proximity to power and being “in the know” and you have an elitist mentality drilled into their heads.

    The final poison to the toxic mix was the Leftist propaganda of the 60s that spread throughout educational institutions and that journalists have been imbibing for decades.

  21. 2010 July 22 9:47 am
    TLS permalink

    The final poison to the toxic mix was the Leftist propaganda of the 60s that spread throughout educational institutions and that journalists have been imbibing for decades.

    This list is also proof of the environment of indoctrination in the institutes of “education” and especially journalism education. Todd Gitlin, who I noted above is an original member of the Weather Underground, is also a professor of Journalism and Sociology at Columbia University.

  22. 2010 July 22 9:49 am

    Great catch, TLS.

    We need to keep that list and add bio notes to it.

  23. 2010 July 22 9:50 am

    With links and documentation.

  24. 2010 July 22 11:08 am
    JustMary permalink

    #21 It is on the tip of my tongue the quote they used about bloggers regarding that exact thing. Something like we aren’t formally educated journalists so we need to be shut down……gaah I wish I could remember because it involved the essential bailout of the newspapers. I’ll have to go look it up now.

  25. 2010 July 22 11:24 am
    JustMary permalink

    I can’t find it. Found the article that led me to the quote, but couldn’t retrace my steps to find the quote. No matter. Anyway, they don’t see people who have not been through their group think training as qualified to discuss anything at all, much less put it out there online for others to read.

  26. 2010 July 22 11:29 am
    TLS permalink

    they don’t see people who have not been through their group think training as qualified to discuss anything at all, much less put it out there online for others to read.

    I think you nailed it there. they want to report the news to us and have us accept everything they say at face value. Their biggest problem with the internet is the ability to discuss (or question) the story.

  27. 2010 July 22 11:29 am
    judyt2009 permalink

    Print out this list…. memorize the names… but make several copies… and keep one in your pocket and one by your computers… where ever you are connected to the internet, watching television, reading newspapers, interacting with other people…

    and whenever you see an article by anyone of those on the list, be in a blog or open comment section add your own post and and footnote ….

    Journolist member — this person plotted with others to circumvent (1) The Constitution (2) the will of the American people (3) honesty in journalism and (4) unbias reporting. This person is part of a vast left wing socialist conspiracy to circumvent the will of the American people. Their reporting is not based in facts or honesty but upon their biased opinions and hidden agendas.

    Do not trust this person. This person does not believe in Free Speech or a Free Press… this person wants to deny the American people their CIVIL RIGHTS enumerated in the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Those inalienable rights that belong to the people and that are endowed on the people by their CREATOR not the government.

    This person believes that lying to you to obtain their objective is acceptable. This person believes that denying you your Constitutional Rights in order that they achieve their goals is an acceptable means.

    Do not trust this person… this person is a member of a conspiracy against you.

    These people

  28. 2010 July 22 11:32 am
    mulletover permalink

    INC, in a sane world, the headiness of Watergate would work both ways, and there are plenty of opportunities for investigative journalism toward the corruption of the left.

    I guess that’s where elitism comes into the equation.

  29. 2010 July 22 11:38 am
    JustMary permalink

    #27 Love it

  30. 2010 July 22 12:04 pm

    mullet, Dan McLaughlin (The Baseball Crank & RedState) should have gotten a Pulitzer for his Integrity Gap series on Obama, Palin, Biden & McCain that was done before the elections in 2008.

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