Why Can’t We Be More like Poland?

2019 February 9
by bc3b

Perhaps in Poland the educational system, media and courts aren’t controlled by the left.

While younger people inn the US, Canada and most western countries are further to nthe left than their parents and grandchildren, young Poles are moving to the right,

It was an unusual sight when Poland celebrated 100 years of independence in November: Young people were marching through Warsaw, wrapped in red and white flags, singing the national anthem. They were lured into the streets by patriotism. They represent conservative values and vote for right-wing parties.

In Poland, the young generation’s shift to the right is neither a temporary trend nor an expression of protest. It represents a new self-image that has grown with the politics of recent years. Young Poles long for post-material values such as the church, tradition and security.

Think conservatively, vote right-wing

This shift made its mark for the first time in the 2015 parliamentary elections. Two-thirds of voters between 18 and 29 supported parties to the right of center. The national-conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, which today governs Poland, received 27 percent of their votes. A further 21 percent went to the new right-wing populist movement Kukiz’15. The regional elections in October confirmed this pattern. Again, PiS won the most votes in this age group and Kukiz’15 was also able to count on their continuing support.

“In the past three years, young Poles have turned even more towards conservative values,” said social psychologist Marta Majchrzak, who co-authored a study published in November by the commercial research institute IQS in which scientists interviewed childless Poles between the ages of 16 and 29. “They trust authorities, are dreaming of marriage, and are proud to be Polish citizens,” she explained.

The study classified only 9 percent of respondents as “cosmopolitan” and “open to being different.”

No memory of socialism

The younger generation’s conservative attitude can be explained by the economic reforms that followed the fall of the Soviet Union. Poles under 30 have no memory of life in a socialist system. They grew up at a time when their parents started their own shops and businesses. What mattered most was economic success. The West was the ideal. Parents promised children that their new Poland would soon become an equal member of the European Union. They predicted that Poland would develop until it was equal to its neighbor Germany.

But the promises were initially followed by disappointment. Under the liberal PO party, which ruled the country from 2007 to 2015, the economy grew, but not the younger generation’s economic security. Youth unemployment peaked at more than 27 percent in 2013. Young Poles ended up on temporary contracts and their wages were lower than they had hoped. In 2007 they helped the PO win the elections one last time, but punished the party in the following years by voting for the national conservatives, who promised them a social policy.

Hat tip: Deutsche Welle

I wonder if Poland has Ice Girls?

25 Responses leave one →
  1. 2019 February 9 7:34 pm
    justrand permalink

    Poland remembers…everyone else seems to have forgotten

  2. 2019 February 9 9:30 pm

    Those who died in the kaytin forest remember.

  3. 2019 February 9 10:55 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    As JR and IP say, they’ve suffered more.
    It’s a miracle that Poland survived all the upheaval of WWII followed by years of Soviet occupation.
    I give the Catholic Church a lot of credit

  4. 2019 February 9 11:03 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Bing.com search for “poland ice hockey cheerleaders” returns some hits but mostly pretty Russian girls.

  5. 2019 February 10 3:57 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Those born after 1995 are trending right of center. The Covington Kids for example are all Gen Z kids. They —

    * Have always had an Internet. Its a tool.
    * They use less social media than Millennials.
    * Have excellent BS detectors.
    * Fewer will go to college as a % than their predecessors.

    Poland like many countries is nearly a single ethnic/social grouping. That is an advantage we can’t reproduce in the context of this post.

  6. 2019 February 10 4:26 am
    drdog09 permalink

    A battle in the Catholic faith brewing? — https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-mueller-issues-manifesto-a-quasi-correction-of-pope-francis-pontif — over secular oriented matters it appears.

  7. 2019 February 10 7:10 am
    justrand permalink

    Many parts of Poland’s borders lack natural defenses. Kinda like our Southern border.

    I wish Trump had asked the Democrats, point blank, in his SOTU: “If walls and barriers are immoral and don’t work anyway, do you want me to order the removal of all barriers on our Southern border…starting with those in San Diego and El Paso??”

    Then turn to Pelosi and repeat the question. I mean, WTF, she was being rude anyway, why not throw that in her face???

  8. 2019 February 10 7:19 am

    As well as the one surrounding her mansion in san fran.

  9. 2019 February 10 8:02 am
    justrand permalink

    Good point, IP. Trump also should have said he was building an “Immigration Asylum” center in her neighborhood as well. 🙂

  10. 2019 February 10 10:20 am
    justrand permalink

    no, Governor Northam REALLY just said this, Sunday, 2/10/2019:

    Virginia needs someone that can heal. There’s no better person to do that than a doctor. Virginia also needs someone who is strong, who has empathy, who has courage and who has a moral compass. And that’s why I’m not going anywhere

    The Third Reich had some swell doctors too! Like Josef Mengele. Remember him? He was every bit as much a “healer” at Auschwitz as “Doctor” Northam is today! I’ll bet good ole Doc Mengele even tried to keep the Jews at Auschwitz “comfortable” right up until he hacked them to pieces for “science”. Way to go, Virginia!

    As for a “moral compass”. Well heck, the Democrats who opposed the end of slavery, split the country apart, founded the KKK and filibustered EVERY major piece of legislation to expand Civil Rights had “moral compasses” too! Democrat Senator Robert Byrd had an AWESOME “moral compass”, as did Margaret Sanger.

    Sanger’s “moral compass” pointed straight to “Hey, let’s ABORT Blacks and other inferior races (her term) out of existence!!” p.s. Hillary Clinton called her a “Role Model”.
    The Democrat Party, you may survive birth (unless you live in New York), but they’ll get you sooner or later!

  11. 2019 February 10 10:32 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    A step closer to CWII when politicians realize they will not be held to account. It’s double for Dems because the media ignores their evil, not just voters.

  12. 2019 February 10 10:44 am
    justrand permalink

    Jim, too late. Politicians lonnnnnng since realized they could get away with murder (in the Clinton’s case, literally).

    CWII will only happen when the Democrats reclaim power and decide to take their diseased ideology for a spin. They actually believe their own bullshit…VERY dangerous, for them!

  13. 2019 February 10 11:18 am
    drdog09 permalink

  14. 2019 February 10 11:20 am
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 #9 –

    Hopefully there is a battle brewing in the Catholic Church. There is a bishops synod on molestation coming up later this month. It appears they are going to defrock former Cardinal McCarrick, but the timing is questionable. My guess is that this will happen just before the synod as a smokescreen with nothing happening at the synod.

    I trust my pastor a lot. I trust my bishop a little. I don’t n trust 75% of the cardinals or Francis at all.

  15. 2019 February 10 11:41 am
    drdog09 permalink


    We meld Pelosi’s mansion and AOC GND plan and make HER PLACE the institute for the insane. No one would be the wiser.

  16. 2019 February 10 1:23 pm
    justrand permalink

    Drdog, in re. #13, I will remind my kids and grandkids that when someone declares their intent to do you harm…BELIEVE THEM!

  17. 2019 February 10 3:09 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    I would take the tact that acting like a Stasi as suggested is tantamount to stalking and go after them accordingly.

    Bye the bye, the little proto-Nazi pulled her LinkedIn profile so I figure she is pulling all her SJW links down. Just like a wimp, no guts no glory.

  18. 2019 February 10 3:12 pm
    justrand permalink

    exactly, drdog! Hit back TWICE as hard!!!

  19. 2019 February 10 3:17 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    The congregation needs to take their Church back. That’s a big task considering the huge size of the Catholic Church. Same could be said for most of the Protestant sects as well. Hoping something good comes of the whole affair.

  20. 2019 February 10 3:25 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    VA Guv says slavery == indentured servitude! — https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-10/virginia-governor-reeling-blackface-scandal-refers-slaves-indentured-servants — Heh, go with that one Guv! But if that is true (its not) then there cannot be a case for reparations. I hear the prattle of feet as the radical black voters exit stage left.

  21. 2019 February 10 4:53 pm
    justrand permalink

    from the article:

    “…we’ve made incredible advances in neonatal screening technology to make clear that a baby in the womb — even at very early stages of development — is much more than inanimate tissue. We know that just a few weeks after conception, a fetus moves, sleeps, wakes and responds to stimuli such as a mother’s voice.
    At an eight-week ultrasound, an expectant mother sees her baby’s head, body, arms and legs, and hears her baby’s heart beating. The images from an ultrasound are so compellingly human that most women considering abortion who see these images choose life.

    All this has fundamentally changed the narrative about abortion. Abortion advocates have come to the unavoidable end of their own logic. They face a choice: either uphold the dignity of all human beings, including pre-born babies, or embrace a terrible calculus that ranks certain human lives as less valuable than others.

    New York’s law and its counterparts authorize the destruction of a 39-week-old human being, with fingernails, hair and a distinctive face. Who can say this human being is not worth protecting? And if a life in the womb is not worth protecting, what about a life outside the womb? My life? Your life?”


  22. 2019 February 10 5:27 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    “… At an eight-week ultrasound, an expectant mother sees her baby’s head, body, arms and legs, and hears her baby’s heart beating. The images from an ultrasound are so compellingly human that most women considering abortion who see these images choose life.”

    Do I hear an echo? We’re all been saying this for years. If Sanger were alive the first thing she would abort is the HD ultrasound machine.

  23. 2019 February 10 5:45 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Another enrtrant in the ‘Trump wipes the floor with them’ presidential sweepstakes — https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-10/amy-klobuchar-announces-presidential-bid-after-reports-abusive-workplace-behavior — This one has baggage too. — https://www.foxnews.com/politics/amy-klobuchar-allegedly-mistreated-staggers-sees-difficulty-getting-team-for-2020-run-report

    The GOP should lend her some of their campaign consultants….

  24. 2019 February 10 5:52 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Funny as a heart attack — https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-10/progressive-battle-cry-tax-rich-tax-rich-hows-it-working-out — Any politician should have the following on the front door of their office —

    “Treat rich people like Neiman Marcus does or they will up and leave!”

  25. 2019 February 10 6:38 pm
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 #23-

    I volunteer Ana Navaro, Rick Wilson, Mike Murphy and Steve ScHmIdT.

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