Censorship Regardless of Who Does it is the Wrong Direction

2020 November 18
by drdog09

Josh Hawley @HawleyMO · 20h Under oath, Zuckerberg admits @Facebook DOES have “tools” to track its users across the internet, across platforms, across accounts – all without user knowledge. I ask how many times this tool has been used domestically against Americans. Zuck won’t say


First an observation. Sadly but importantly, Twitter and Facebook are not breaking any laws. Fact they are using the laws that you Josh and your other partners in Congress passed. So first you need to stand in front of a mirror and state publicly –

I F’d up.

Till you and your peers admit that fact and realize that not every problem needs to be solved with a law, regulation or edict. Leave Americans to do their own thing, and we tend to get along with each other. As many a person has opined – Politics, it destroys everything it touches.

So what to do? Well first of all Section 230 needs to be amended. If you eliminate it totally then many services that have public comments will be eliminated. No company will be willing to accept risk of suits triggered by content not of their own creation. The simple fact of the matter is operators of these sites need to be forced to select what they are – publisher or service provider. If you are a publisher, yes you have the right to manage content, but also accept the burden of being sued. If a service provider you are freed from legal action of third parties but you cannot manage content. Its one or the other.

Quite frankly till the Internet came forth that is what has worked for some 300 years both in operation and in the courts. A newspaper or publishing house could manage their content as they saw fit and lived with the consequences good or bad. The gent standing on the soap box down at the corner was free to shout his diatribes as he or she saw fit. That intent carried over into the telephony world without a hitch; the phone companies not liable for the speech of their users as they were labeled a service provider.

In the interim I suggest that the primary course of action is to not use the services of internet companies that censor content under the covers. Facebook and Twitter being prime examples. (and yes I recognize the mixed message using twitter content above) Sometimes the only way to modify the behavior of a corporation is to let them take a huge whack in the pocketbook.

End game Section 230 should be eliminated and replaced with an extension of the 1st and 4th amendments. “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,…” be extended to those resources housed on the Internet. The hosting site may not lay claim to you papers, thoughts and effects nor shall they be responsible for outcomes that issue from them. Your medical records are yours not the medical practitioner who assumes the role of care taker. (That is the effect of all places Russia.) Doing so would also eliminate a massive amount of cyber security issues trying to dance around the issue of 4th Amendment protections. State it outright and clear out the under brush of conflicting laws and regs.

84 Responses leave one →
  1. 2020 November 18 9:12 am
    Eph permalink

  2. 2020 November 18 9:31 am
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    9,626 vote error in the DeKalb County hand count.

    One batch was labeled 10,707 for Biden and 13 for Trump..
    The actual count for the batch was 1,081 for Biden and 13 for Trump.

    David Chapman

    There are more votes cast than people in 80/491 Detroit precincts. That amounts to 16.3% of all Detroit precincts with more votes than people.
    7:32 PM · Nov 17, 2020

    Eyes on the prize, people. Whiners need either need to step up or GTFO.

  3. 2020 November 18 9:57 am
    fight on permalink

    In a way, more censorship. Reason # 9967 to leave fox. Cutting tie with John Soloman.


    Even banished from fox business. He was regular on Dobbs and Maria. Him and Sara Carter are two of the best investigative reporter.

  4. 2020 November 18 10:01 am
    fight on permalink

    More Fox. Never liked him to begin with. Always figured he would get slapped with a suit the way he hugged and kissed all the women on set. But sodomizing a dude. Judge are you a pickle puffer.


  5. 2020 November 18 10:52 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    Two most likely outcomes to the legal challenges:

    1) Courts don’t step in, let the result stand.

    2) “Once it’s established that there was substantial fraud, it would seem reasonable to toss the whole election rather than impose the unreasonable burden on the plaintiff to prove what the outcome would have been absent the fraud (of which only the tip of the iceberg might have been discovered)”

    I hope Trump’s team extends it out to the max. Even knowing corrupt decisions are coming down, it’s worth it to force them to do the deed. Also, it’s useful to learn which Repubs are surrender monkeys.
    Finally, to create a core of voters who don’t forget what happened and “move on”. Time for us all to consider ways we can “misbehave” in the coming years.

  6. 2020 November 18 10:54 am
    justrand permalink

    At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.
    Excerpt from Abraham Lincoln on: “The Perpetuation of Our Political Institutions”. Springfield, Illinois, January 27, 1838

    The destruction of America that Lincoln spoke of is among us…and may yet take control of EVERY branch of government. If Biden is installed in the basement of the White House, and if the Democrats manage to “win” the two run-off elections in Georgia, then they will IMMEDIATELY set about doing the following:
    1. Expand (read: “pack”) the Supreme Court to give them a 6-5 majority that will rubber-stamp the actions 2-4
    2. Make 20 million illegal aliens citizens…and register them to vote
    3. Add Washington D.C. and Puerto Rico as States, and have 4 Senators added to the Senate, increasing their hold
    4. Eliminate the Electoral College…or circumvent it by passing some “National Vote” work around

    Then the Democrat/BigTech/media/Leftist cabal will begin the “Great Reset” that many of them are already promising/predicting.

    As with Obama’s “Hope & Change” the “Elite” are VERY vague as to how the “Great Reset” will be accomplished, and what the end result will be.

    The “Great Reset” will definitely include: Guaranteed employmentguaranteed healthcare…guaranteed survival.

    The “bargain” being offered is a very old one. Something attractive, for something you don’t think you need, or aren’t using anyway. The Devil explained to Faust that his “soul” wasn’t doing him any good…and couldn’t be proven to exist anyway. What, he asked, would Faust want in return?? Putting little, if any, value on his soul, but a LOT of value on his personal pleasure, Faust “sold” his soul very cheaply: Earthly pleasure!

    When I say to the Moment flying;
    ‘Linger a while — thou art so fair!’
    Then bind me in thy bonds undying,
    And my final ruin I will bear!

    As Faust saw no value in his soul, they see no value in their or YOUR freedom. So surrendering freedoms they don’t think they need, in exchange for things they want is no big deal to them.
    Unsure as to whether they can ever be rich they’re willing surrender the chance to ever be so. Not inclined to speak out, they’re willing to surrender their (and our) right to do so. Unhappy with the views of others they are willing to have YOU surrender your Right to disagree (it never occurs to them that this will EVER be turned against them).

    Do NOT suffer these fools lightly.

  7. 2020 November 18 10:55 am

    Didn’t see the new thread.

    82 – It didn’t take 90 seconds in my case, not even close. It took about 30 seconds to scan.

    2020 November 18 10:06 am
    KnightHawk permalink

    84 – Useless.. they are now certified. The rest is bullshit sideshow that watch will never happen.

    2020 November 18 10:39 am
    KnightHawk permalink

    So for each one of those dumpsters at a polling place, they can process around 40 ballots an hour. Do the math. Do you believe in math or not?

    There were 45 votes in my pct about 30 minutes into voting on voting day, 18 on one scanner and 27 on the second (the one I used), and that’s with zero lines to actually use either. The person claiming 40 ballots an hour is feeding bullshit, it’s at least 120 per system (30sec ea) and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was actually more like 150-180ph (20seconds) and my own sense of wait time was off. That or they’re talking about entirely different gear in use, but the “dumpster” pics from wayne and philly I’ve seen all look like the same “dumpters” in use in GA.

    I contend they stole GA just as they intended too, with injecting enough ballots to do so, namely by harvesting absentees of those they’ve injected into the rolls in 2018 and this cycle, and ballots in general, (and yes probably some late night printing in Fulton of biden only absentee ballots). Any “glitches” or Dominion manipulation were just icing on the cake. They will do it exactly the same way here for the run off… Already I’ve got 3 texts in 3 days asking me if I want someone else (“black lives vote”) to request my absentee ballot for jan5th be sent to me, the D groups here are in overdrive already.


  8. 2020 November 18 10:56 am

    2 – Even for Dekalb that’s an insane dump. it’s an 80/20 sort of place maybe 85/15 this time around, not a 99/1 (which would make it the most liberal place in the fucking country). Granted I get this was just ‘one batch’ (1081/13) which I guess could happen, but even that smells.

  9. 2020 November 18 10:59 am

    3 – Yup can’t have any ties to by all accounts thus far are real journalists, who actually seem to put in some investigative effort of their own and don’t just parrot the latest gossip on twitter.

  10. 2020 November 18 11:06 am

    4 – True or not that’s funny, if remotely true hope he gets nailed over it.

  11. 2020 November 18 11:20 am

    James Woods Verified Account

    Biden has promised to raise the refugee cap from 15,000 to 125,000, expand the number of guest worker visas, form a “path to citizenship” for millions of illegal immigrant in the country, and impose 100-day moratoriums on deportations.

    Whooo hooo more refuges welfare and all the graft scams that go with it!! Awesome! /s

  12. 2020 November 18 11:22 am
    TLS permalink

    And yet they are still referred to as “experts”:


    While the security experts, who range in employment from higher education to private companies, claim that none of the “technical vulnerabilities have actually been exploited to alter the outcome of any US election,” more than half of the signatories signed a letter to Congress in June 2017 urging senators and representatives to take action to “minimize election security risks” and sounding the alarm to preserve voter integrity by addressing problems with electronic machines at U.S. polling stations.


    Lastly, the experts advocate for “robust statistical post-election audits before certification of final results in federal elections,” relying on the knowledge and assistance of technical experts to help complete them. This process and its results, the 2017 letter states, should be publicized.

  13. 2020 November 18 11:26 am


    Trump pays $3 million for recount of 2 Wisconsin counties
    By SCOTT BAUERNovember 18, 2020 GMT

    MADISON, Wis. (AP) — President Donald Trump’s campaign has paid $3 million for a recount of two heavily Democratic Wisconsin counties, saying Wednesday that they were the site of the “worst irregularities” although no evidence of wrongdoing has been presented and state elections officials have said there was none.

    Trump paid for the recounts in Milwaukee and Dane counties overnight Tuesday and planned to submit the required paperwork to trigger the recount on Wednesday, the campaign said in a statement.

    In the two counties Trump chose for the recount, Democrat Joe Biden received 577,455 votes compared with 213,157 for Trump. Biden won statewide by 20,608 votes, based on canvassed results submitted by the counties.

  14. 2020 November 18 11:27 am
    TLS permalink

    #4 It seems there are far to many on “our side” that are vulnerable to extortion. I will withhold judgement until the facts are presented, but it sure makes it hard to tell at times if they are being unfairly targeted or rightfully accused. Bill O’Reilly comes to mind.

  15. 2020 November 18 11:36 am

    mpt permalink

    Lin Wood just tweeted the following:

    I have irrefutable evidence that GA local election officials were instructed by state to report original vote totals & NOT report recount totals which are different.

    These people are corrupt to point of criminality. They are intentionally engaged in fraud in a federal election.

    WTF??? This is getting crazy. Would a rational attorney say this without actual proof? If he has proof, put it out there. This whole drip, drip, drip is driving me nuts.

    The audio is online of officials saying this.

  16. 2020 November 18 11:36 am
    justrand permalink

  17. 2020 November 18 11:41 am

    17 – Sounds too intelligent to actually be in play. 🙂 🙂 Course use of gloves negate most of it all too.

  18. 2020 November 18 12:04 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    The only open question is which side is taking the ride.

  19. 2020 November 18 12:30 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Saw this online, didn’t check it but likely to be true.
    Also, hope it gets worse.

    BREAKING: Fox Ratings out, and it’s bad. Real bad.

    Cavuto: Down 52%
    Ingraham: Down 45%
    Fox & Friends: Down 45%
    Hannity: Down 39%
    Carlson: Down 33%

  20. 2020 November 18 1:16 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    19, “The only open question is which side is taking the ride.”

    Either way, helicopter futures will be a winning investment! 🙂

  21. 2020 November 18 1:33 pm

    23 – Didn’t even know it was happening, else I might have participated (if nothing else to increase the numbers by 1 body).
    21 – They were all likely to lose 10-20% after the election cycle just tends to happen anyway, but the good news is they’ve lost a lot more than that.

  22. 2020 November 18 1:50 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    More on 21,

    And in the latest evidence of Fox’s taking shrapnel from the landmine of wokeness, MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” just overtook “Fox & Friends” for the first time since 2001 as the #1 cable news morning show – a distinction the network openly bragged about on social media. — ZeroHedge

  23. 2020 November 18 1:58 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Simon Dolan #KBF
    The Danish mask study finally published.6000 people in the trial.50% wore masks,50% didn’t. All followed exactly the same other protocols

    After one month the results were in. No statistically significant difference in infection rates between the two groups.


  24. 2020 November 18 2:09 pm
    justrand permalink

    I watched Fox&Friends every morning during exercise for the last 15+ years…and haven’t watched since the election. And never will again.

  25. 2020 November 18 2:42 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Funny bit about the “Presidential Horse Race”.

    Who will win the presidential cup? | Sammy J
    4 minutes

  26. 2020 November 18 2:58 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Great headline (humor piece from Genesius Times)
    BREAKING: Hillary Clinton demands to know why DNC didn’t cheat this hard for her.

  27. 2020 November 18 3:00 pm
    Eph permalink


    I would like to know that too!

    Doesnt make sense

    Hillary loses

    Biden wins

  28. 2020 November 18 3:02 pm
    Eph permalink


    The only reason that makes sense is that Hussein didnt give a shit about Hillary. He did with Biden.

  29. 2020 November 18 3:06 pm
    Eph permalink

  30. 2020 November 18 3:12 pm

    27 – yup 1.8% in 3012 with mask and 2.1% with 3012 without mask, 9 infection difference among the non-mask participants, which some will point to as a difference but even the authors note while it’s possible that’s true, it’s equally possible it was just noise.

  31. 2020 November 18 3:20 pm

    32 – If you recall he did give at least 1/2 a shit, else we wouldn’t of had “insurance policies” et all, and him campaigning like crazy for her in the final 10 days in the usual suspect places.

    30 – Truth… they did, they just didn’t have three things.

    #1) They were over confident among various groups doing the usual rigging, so they did “the usual”, not the over-the-top version, because “she would win anyway”, and even the few who got worried in the final days only had so much time left to inject extra via absentee. They had no backup-plan for election night because “she wasn’t going to lose”, to do more than “the usual”.

    2) They didn’t have 5 years of trashing Trump 24×7 and 1/2 a year of often showing him unfiltered at rallies because they though he would lose and it was good ratings, instead it was say zero good for 4 years and never show more than a minute or two of rally on ANY network but OAN.

    3) They didn’t have KUNGFLU enforcing in some of these places VBM, and all the laxed enforcement and harvesting it to go with it around absentee\vbm, nor the benefit of the trial run in 2018 to see if there would be any negative legal outcomes from doing it, nor the advanced notice for it all.

  32. 2020 November 18 3:21 pm

    35… quick everyone go out and get a student loan even if you don’t want or need one! Otherwise it will be only the responsible actually hurt by this.

  33. 2020 November 18 3:29 pm
    Eph permalink

    If he cared would have been a lot more than 10 days.

  34. 2020 November 18 3:30 pm
    Eph permalink

    You are right about the rallies

    In the end, they just don’t matter.

  35. 2020 November 18 3:34 pm

    38 – Did exactly the same for joe… only campaigned in the final 2 weeks.

  36. 2020 November 18 3:35 pm
    Eph permalink


    Only 2 weeks that we knew of.

    Remember its Hussein

  37. 2020 November 18 3:37 pm
    Eph permalink

    Boeing… RIP my friend

  38. 2020 November 18 3:38 pm
    Eph permalink

    RSBN… RIP my friend

  39. 2020 November 18 3:38 pm

    SEATTLE – A federal judge in Seattle has awarded $10 million to the family of a severely disabled child who was born after a community clinic nurse inadvertently gave the mother a flu shot instead of a birth-control injection.

    The Seattle Times reported that U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik last week awarded the child $7.5 million for her medical, educational and other expenses, on top of $2.5 million in damages for her parents.

    After a trial earlier this year, Lasnik found that the mother, Yeseni Pacheco, did not want to become pregnant and would not have become pregnant in 2011 if the nurse at the Neighborcare Health clinic had given her the correct shot.

  40. 2020 November 18 4:18 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Odds that the shot giver was an ESL winner.

  41. 2020 November 18 4:28 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Some blacks are fed up with the AntifFA/BLM cabal.

  42. 2020 November 18 4:32 pm
    drdog09 permalink

  43. 2020 November 18 4:38 pm
    justrand permalink

  44. 2020 November 18 5:09 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    JR, don’t get caught in a Turkey Bust.

  45. 2020 November 18 5:17 pm
    justrand permalink

    drdog, we’re considering it a funeral for the turkey 🙂

  46. 2020 November 18 5:21 pm


    BREAKING: WI Elections Commission, after seeing President Trump’s recount petition and objections, is trying to change the recount manual at an emergency meeting tonight at 6 pm to make objections harder to make. This must be stopped.
    2:54 PM – 18 Nov 2020
    Ah great, change rules as per their own manuals after the fact cause they might be called on them to follow their own rules. lovely.

  47. 2020 November 18 5:27 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Parler is fine as a Twitter alternative but Gab is super-supportive of the Deplorable Nation.
    This link is from a blog post.

    It mentions Gab.com, which I know about and which I am on.
    But it also mentions the Dissenter.com product which I am not familiar with.
    “Gab’s free speech web browser, Dissenter … has been installed across millions of devices and is a leading privacy-friendly alternative to Google Chrome and other invasive web browsers”

    I’ve been using Brave, also sometimes Safari on ios devices. Also DuckDuckGo for search.

    Is Dissenter a possible improvement for privacy and for helping the good guys vs the baddies?

  48. 2020 November 18 5:27 pm
    bc3b permalink

    JR – #49 –

    Newson isn’t the only Demoncratic governor trying to ruin people’s lives:

    Wolf (PA) is mandating that people wear masks in their own homes.

    Gretch the Wretch (MI) is telling people not to celebrate Thanksgiving with anyone outside of the
    immediate family. Indoor dining is forbidden as of today so she can kill off the restaurants she didn’t destroy earlier this year.

  49. 2020 November 18 5:40 pm
    TLS permalink

    A lot of conservative protests today. Maybe destroying conservatives’ job is a bad idea. Now they too have plenty of free time.


  50. 2020 November 18 5:57 pm
    bc3b permalink

    Ever notice how election “errors” ALWAYS favor Democrats?

  51. 2020 November 18 5:59 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    btw, I downloaded Dissenter. I’m sure it’s OK but mostly it looks like a knock off from Brave.

    This is equivalent to Brave Browser 1.5.114, with some modifications:
    Brave Ads, Brave Rewards, Brave Sync, Brave Wallet, Google GCM, Brave New Tab Sponsored Images, and many other things are DISABLED.

  52. 2020 November 18 6:05 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Hmmm. That is way behind Brave 1.16 and I am 1 rev behind the current release. If you are really worried about being tracked try Tails — https://tails.boum.org/

  53. 2020 November 18 7:42 pm

    Also of note:
    Since Nixon-1 Trump was first “R” to win an election where turnout was in the ~60 range.

  54. 2020 November 18 7:55 pm

    59 – Damn that was good, guy got straight to the point and called it all out for what it is.
    58 – Yeah tails is good for when you really need that extra layer, even then you need to very careful in other ways if you’re a State target.

  55. 2020 November 18 8:24 pm
    TLS permalink

    Not sure what to make of this but Rudy says the 2 R’s in Michigan are NOT certifying the vote despite what the press says. At the 40 sec mark:


  56. 2020 November 18 8:29 pm
    TLS permalink

    #60 That’s an incredibly interesting graph not just in terms of the current election. The lack of participation after Nixon and the upswing starting at Reagan, for example. Then the highs and low of the more current Prez’s.

  57. 2020 November 18 8:37 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #62 They sure as heck better not “certify” this cluster frag:


    3,000 precincts reporting votes cast up to 350% above those registered.

    You don’t have to be a statistician to know that those numbers don’t exist in the real world. Audits are starting to shed the light of Truth.

  58. 2020 November 18 8:39 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink


    Democrats counting mail in ballot with no creases and perfectly filled out the circles went to Biden.

  59. 2020 November 18 8:41 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink


    “The numbers have not improved, it is still 71% out of balance”, stated Wayne County, Michigan, Canvassers. “There is widespread irregularities in poll numbers.” There are “more votes than people”. The two harassed patriot Canvassers refuse to sign the papers!

  60. 2020 November 18 8:44 pm
    TLS permalink

    About f’ing time:


    Republican lawmakers Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) and Rep. James Comer (R-KY) called on Wednesday night for an immediate Congressional investigation into 2020 election.
    Jim Jordan is the Ranking member on the House Judiciary Committee and James Comer is the Ranking member on the Committee of Oversight and Reform.

    The two Republican lawmakers called on Democrat leaders to investigate the controversial and highly contested 2020 election. The Republicans are asking for hearings on the 2020 elections as soon as possible.

  61. 2020 November 18 8:47 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink


    “I am here today to announce that I have directed the Special Operations civilian leadership to report directly to me, instead of through the current bureaucratic channels.” A/SD Chris Miller

    #67 Yeah, long overdue……I mean 150,000 votes going in one second to only 1 candidate is perfectly normal (sarc)

  62. 2020 November 18 9:09 pm

    68- Might have been more useful in Jan 2017.

    WEC – Wayne county did end up certifying, the did how ever call for an audit of recount\investigation into a few pcts, it’s being reported that certification is contingent upon that, and it’s also being report it was not technically contingent – I’m guess the later is the truth but I guess we’ll see.

  63. 2020 November 18 9:53 pm
    TLS permalink

  64. 2020 November 18 10:07 pm

    70 – So were gonna do the right thing, got bullied, gave in, got shit for being bullied, so then admitted they got bullied and are going back to their original position? err good new I guess till they get bullied again. fucking 2020 man…

    That said I think you for JTN link on it because it clears up where all the confusion in reporting was though out the day.

  65. 2020 November 18 10:15 pm


    SMALL WORLD: Just a photo of Rashida Tlaib hanging out with the same Democrat Elect State Representative who was filmed threatening another board member’s family in Dettoit last night, Abraham Aiyash. #Michigan #WayneCounty pic.twitter.com/rCl187SadA


  66. 2020 November 18 10:19 pm

    65 – and in at least one of the 8 or 9 to that effect affidavits it’s a DEMOCRAT watcher who is even testifying to that same thing and saying it looked unusual and never seen anything like it in his 20 years of being involved as watcher\monitor.

  67. 2020 November 18 10:46 pm

    Two democratic state senators in minnesota, tom bakk and david tomassoni, are breaking with their own ranks to form an independent caucus the two iron range politicians are not republicans but are disillusioned with a dfl that has become too extreme twincities.com/2020/11/18/bak…
    7:15 PM – 18 Nov 2020

    Minnesota senators Bakk, Tomassoni break with Democrats to form independent caucus
    Two longtime Minnesota state senators broke with Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party ranks on Wednesday, Nov. 18, to form an independent caucus. Sens. Tom Bakk, of Cook, and David Tomassoni, of Chisholm,Pioneer Press Pioneer Press @PioneerPress

    Sort of interesting, also same area where I think it was nine local D\DFL mayors said fuck this crazy left wing shit and endorsed Trump instead in early october.

  68. 2020 November 18 11:25 pm

    Alaska apparently passed Ranked Choice voting initiative by 1%…wtf Alaska? sigh.

  69. 2020 November 18 11:36 pm


    Gone largely uncovered today of course.

    Also of interest.

    Those both seem almost entirely targeted, such that likely T voters are flagged for mail-in even if they didn’t request it such that they become provisional when they show up on game-day to vote. And certain counties get a unofficial heads up to prepare to be able to pre-cure ballots before election day, while other don’t any only get it in the final week or final hours before election day.

  70. 2020 November 18 11:51 pm


    Trump got more republican votes than anyone in history in the state, so how exactly did he depress the vote? Our SoS is so full of shit.

  71. 2020 November 19 12:01 am

    The campaign said it paid a three million dollar filing fee for the
    recount in the two counties, which the state has acknowledged receiving.
    Tonight we heard from a Republican officer from Dane County Wisconsin.

    According to our source the recount workers will be paid $30
    an hour for their work in the two counties. And only 12 out of 176 names
    submitted by the Republicans were scheduled as recount workers.


    Anyone else confirming this? If true what a sham, and that 3 million might as well just be donation to wi dems.

  72. 2020 November 19 5:28 am
    drdog09 permalink

  73. 2020 November 19 5:32 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Is Gen Flynn helping the Trump election effort — https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/people-smiling-trump-attorney-jenna-ellis-posts-late-night-photo-rudy-giuliani-gen-flynn/ — Say by looking at particular security fingerprints of DoD involvement in the fraud?

  74. 2020 November 19 7:06 am
    mpt permalink

    Anyone else confirming this? If true what a sham, and that 3 million might as well just be donation to wi dems.

    I can’t confirm, but if so, it is a sham. For $3M you ought to have direct access to the raw data with your own workers, with observers (look, but no touch) coming from the Dem side.

  75. 2020 November 19 7:27 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Must read — https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/11/read-affidavit-from-democrat-observer-questioning-georgia-ballots/ — affadavit filing in GA election from an excellent source agent.

    KH, comment/observation?

  76. 2020 November 19 7:31 am
    mpt permalink

    Trump tweeted the following early this morning:

    Important News Conference today by lawyers on a very clear and viable path to victory. Pieces are very nicely falling into place. RNC at 12:00 P.M.

    Should at least be interesting

    I listen to Steve Bannon’s War Room podcasts. The guy has his quirks and weaknesses, but with regards to the uphill climb Trump has against the swamp and Dim corruption this election, I like his no BS approach. He has a full understanding that politics at this level is a full-contact bloodsport and the Dims are ruthless and playing for keeps. Most Republicans seem to think both sides are playing by the Marquess of Queensberry Rules and never see the shiv being slipped between their ribs as Bannon does. I’m certain he is advising Trump at some level, but I would feel better if he was more hands on with Trump’s election team this go around.

  77. 2020 November 19 2:01 pm

    82 – Have none, posted have seen the same. 🙂 This will come up in woods hearing tomorrow. Actually it’s on-going as we speaking I can’t get into zoom of it though as it’s at capacity.

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