Supposin’ They Ain’t?

2020 November 20
by drdog09

Coordinating that is.

Guilliani/Powell are making the case that this was a coordinated effort to over turn an election. They might be right and I am not saying they are wrong. What I want to suggest is that it would not have taken a Grand Master strategy to pull it off.

Ballot Manipulation

We know the following:

  • There was ballot harvesting.
  • Many precincts reported over balloting. In some cases to the 200% level.
  • That there are ballots that say ‘Biden’ and no down ballot selections.

Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Detroit, Pittsburgh are towns that are renown for their machine politics. In some cases for nearly a century. The effectiveness of machine politics is the fact you don’t have to tell your operatives what to do, they have been doing it for years. Like communist cells they did not need to be coordinated, just do what they usually do in their local area. The local operatives would also know how much leeway they have for the ballot harvesting by merely looking at the registered voter rolls and past patterns of voting in precinct. All that is needed is to slip in enough margin to overcome the recount trigger and still win.

An indication of this is those precincts that had over voting results. (By the way that link is suppressed, had to go to an archive to find it.) Most election cycles a 70-80% turnout is considered outstanding. “In 2 wards, 200+% of voters voted.” which is a physical impossibility. There were also reports of panic in the incoming results that the only solution was ‘stuffing the machines’ by just running the same ballots thru multiple times. They simply had not harvested enough ballots. In those cases it would seem to this author that a simple tally of the physical ballots vs the machine totals would come up short. I have not heard it reported if that simple task has been executed anywhere.

So lets just lay down the marker, that the Dims were stealing it the old fashion way they have done for years.

Cyber Manipulation

A lot of assumptions here as we don’t have all the facts in yet. But we do know a few items:

  • The machines can’t do a roll back of votes as the results would have been glaringly obvious. Especially since the results were being reported live on TV/Internet.
  • Best alternative is they borrow from other candidates, specifically the Libertarians by slowing down the counts then swinging them to Biden.
  • The totals were being tabulated offshore by operatives not favoring a Trump result in the election.

So the offshore ops would be shifting some votes outright from the third party candidate to Biden and a percentage of Trump votes to Biden. In their case a smoothing algorithm could be in place that gently increases the Biden lead as the election wore on. But the big question is was the algorithm ‘smart’ such that when balloting swung to the favored candidate physically that virtually the system would stop tweaking the results? If it did not that would magnify the spike in ballot stuffing even more.

Fact if the offshore ops were coordinating with the local ops the word would have gone out to either:

  1. Stop stuffing, we will do it in the servers.
  2. Stop the algorithm, we will do it physically.

If the word went out in case (1) then stuffing the machines would not have been necessary. Just back up the trucks and open the ballots like they had been counted and nothing more. Case (2) is harder to prove if the algorithm backed off appropriately as the dump occurred. A statistician would have to do a trend analysis to catch it.

If you think about it the cyber manipulation operates best in a close race. When the spreads between the candidates are only in the tens of thousands swinging a hundred here and a hundred there per precinct looks like misreads, ‘glitches’, etc. At the end there would not have been a massive spike in votes, just an increasing trend to Biden with a flourish to cap the results above the recount requirement.

The Press

Something I notice with the press reaction. Go back to Bush v. Gore. In that race when it got down to the final, though the press called a winner there was a reluctance to push it. Florida was a critical component to the win for Gore. But the press covered the counts and legal wrangling as a continuation of the horse race that it was. Sold more eyeballs that way.

Trump v. Biden the reaction is a little different. There was this instant need to have a coronation that Biden was the winner. That was obvious in the remarks by Guilliani in the presser above. And think about it, if a reporter could sift through all the factors and a smoking gun emerge that would be an instant Pulitzer in normal circumstances. The reaction to the opportunity? Crickets. Fact they don’t want to even report that there are any chance of voter fraud.


It would not have required a massive coordination to have the results turn out as they did. Each operative was following their predestined function as needed.

70 Responses leave one →
  1. 2020 November 20 6:04 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Watching the Guilliani presser I found the ending rather stark. The Boomers (Guilliani, Powell, were inquisitive enough to want to chase facts down. (what they were paid to do.) The Millennials (the reporters) indicated no interest in doing the same. Several speakers told the press, “the facts are in the filings that none of you have have even tried to look up”. (Their job which they are failing to do.)

    Have we failed so bad as a generation that our children have lost the will to ask the simple question — “why?” or “how?”

  2. 2020 November 20 7:19 am
    justrand permalink

    drdog, I don’t believe there as massive coordination, but there was certainly some.

    The real coordination was the 4 year drum beat of: “Trump is HITLER!!!”

    If given a functioning Time Machine, most folks would balk at the often used SciFi dilemma: “If you had a time machine, would you go back in time and strangle baby Hitler in his crib???”

    Even knowing the horror that would result from Hitler’s life, most folks couldn’t do it. Yes, most could kill Hitler LATER in life, once he started down his evil path…but not as an infant.

    Ah, but here’s a new scenario: “What if you were suddenly, say, transported back in time to one of the early German elections, and put in a position to deprive Hitler of power by switching a few votes, trashing a few ballots, or falsifying some record counts…could you do THAT??” 100% YES!!

    So for four years the media/Democrat cabal has screeched: “Trump IS Hitler!!” If you’re just some lowly worker bee i the Post Office, a counting room, someone transporting ballots…whatever…and you have been brainwashed to BELIEVE “Trump IS Hitler!!”, and have the opportunity to feel RIGHTEOUS about yourself by “switching a few votes, trashing a few ballots, or falsifying some record counts”…you’d be mighty tempted to do it. NO ONE will ever know, and though it may not matter, you will feel RIGHTEOUS!

    Oh, and if someone asks or directs you to do it, you’ll STILL feel RIGHTEOUS.

    That was a lot of the voter fraud.

  3. 2020 November 20 7:21 am

    “Have we failed so bad as a generation that our children have lost the will to ask the simple question — “why?” or “how?””

    They already know the why and the how, but they don’t care as long as their guy wins. In their feeble little minds the end justifies the means. When they end up in hut 1369 along with rest of us, they STILL won’t have a clue, but that’s OK, as they will provide a source of fresh protein.

  4. 2020 November 20 7:26 am
    gnqanq permalink

    Have we failed so bad as a generation that our children have lost the will to ask the simple question — “why?” or “how?”

    Not us, most of us taught our children critical thinking skills along with their education. Instead it was an education system intentionally dumbing them down. And who controls the education system?

    My daughter read some where that they believe the system (the algorithm) was giving 1.25 value for every Biden vote vs 0.75 for every Trump vote. It was not enough to over come Trump, thus the massive ballot dump (and that was almost not enough) in those 4 cities.

  5. 2020 November 20 7:33 am
    justrand permalink

    IP, “when they end up in hut 1369 along with rest of us…they will provide a source of fresh protein”

    Be sure to smuggle some salt in when they “invite” you to Hut1369…Leftist idiots can be a bit gamey if not properly seasoned…or so I’m told. 🙂

  6. 2020 November 20 7:34 am

    If the great “they” don’t find a way to prevent a repeat of this, we will become a one party state ad infinitum.Once you know the way to san jose, it will just become a repeat every election. Half the voting population will have their balls on the anvil, and the ditch carp will be holding the hammer.~~~WBF forever.

  7. 2020 November 20 7:37 am

    “Leftist idiots can be a bit gamey if not properly seasoned…or so I’m told.”

    The real problem would be in cleaning them.( anything is good if slow cooked over a texas smoker)

  8. 2020 November 20 7:57 am
    drdog09 permalink


    Don’t forget to brine properly. That gets rid of that liberal taste in the meat. 🙂

  9. 2020 November 20 8:01 am
    mpt permalink

    For the more technically inclined here is a link to an affidavit that seems to cover much of what Rudy was talking about in the presser regarding the various statistical anomalies and overvote counts as it relates to the Michigan fraud.

    The affidavit is from an expert who researched the Dominion system and provided information to Texas officials that caused them to reject the system as “unsafe”. It then goes on to describe how the Dominion system’s weaknesses (or features if your a Democrat) could explain the anomalies seen in the Michigan numbers from election night such as “glitches” and overvotes in precincts to the tune of 350%. Finally, the affidavit covers the specific information the court could subpoena such as log files from the precincts and Dominion that could be used to ascertain exactly how the system obtained “virtually impossible” results to prove fraud.

    As Rudy described, this affidavit is evidence — both factual and circumstantial. It points to how further evidence can be obtained through subpoenas that would corroborate the circumstantial evidence and ultimately prove the case that intentional and targeted fraud was committed in Michigan to steal the election from Trump. This is how court cases work.

    It burns me how the media can go around screaming “there is no evidence”. All they have to do is open their frick’n eyes and do no more math than add numbers.

  10. 2020 November 20 8:02 am
    justrand permalink

    Watching the Chris Salcedo show on NewsMax this morning (having given up Fox & Friends forever) I heard the following…a harbinger of things to come.

    In a nutshell he had a guy on the phone from Texas who told this story of what happened to him:

    The guy (who gave his name, I just can’t remember it) had texted into Mayor Deblasio’s “Snitch Line” in NYC, the one set up so you can rat out neighbors and businesses you think aren’t complying with the GOVERNMENT enough to suit you. He texted to tell Mayor DeBlasio he is a “MORON” for setting up such a thing. Pretty mild stuff, eh?

    A day or so later, at 11:45 at night, his front door camera alarm goes off, showing a Texas cop standing there…at 11:45 at night. He answers the door before the cop can even knock and asks “what is going on?” The cop tells him the NYPD instructed them to go to this guy’s house and “check on him”, because they said he “Threatend Mayor DeBlasio”. He told the cop to wait…went and got his phone and showed him the text. The cop thanked him, but before he left said: “Be careful!”

    The next day a detective from NYPD called him directly, and not only went through the same thing, but proceeded to let him know they had researched this guy, and had details of his life…as part of their “investigation”.

    And you thought the Gestapo went out of business in 1945.

  11. 2020 November 20 8:04 am
    mpt permalink

    If the great “they” don’t find a way to prevent a repeat of this, we will become a one party state ad infinitum.

    I tell my wife we are witnessing the Californification of the rest of the United States.

  12. 2020 November 20 8:35 am
    JBoz permalink

    Audio from L. Lin Wood breaks it down.

    Combined with the presser yesterday (the Tucker hit job notwithstanding), here’s where I am on all of this. This is essentially an exercise in binary outcomes…either a) this is all an act of desperation on the part of Trump and his legal team, or b) the words of Giuliani, Powell and Wood are legit that they have an open-and-shut case, and the whole thing will soon come crumbling down.

    Regardless of which outcome you or I choose to believe, whatever is going to happen will happen. It’s out of our hands. So I choose to believe b) until such time as that’s proven wrong. If it turns out Trump’s legal team is full of Obama, there will be plenty of time for hand-wringing. Maybe I’m only buying a few weeks of hope, but at least for now, I choose the half full glass.

  13. 2020 November 20 8:41 am
    Eph permalink

    Tucker Carlson Tonight …. RIP

  14. 2020 November 20 8:47 am
    justrand permalink

    Eph, I agree. I am giving Tucker about one more week…then switching to all NewsMax.

  15. 2020 November 20 8:55 am
    Eph permalink


    I dont even watch Youtube clips anymore

  16. 2020 November 20 9:08 am
    mpt permalink


    TODAY AT 10: After Dominion Voting Systems backed out of attending a planned fact-finding hearing with the #PAHouse State Government Committee, committee members will now hold a press conference to discuss the election.

  17. 2020 November 20 9:22 am
    justrand permalink

    As seen just now on MeWe…feel free to spread elsewhere (everything from here down I cut & pasted):

    Posted from Tucker Carlson Group

    I think that this will be of great interest to this group
    Evan Blake
    Official Kayleigh McEnany (rollover)
    16 hours ago

    I can’t say this on facebook, but I feel it’s important to say. I was a facebook Fact Checker. And your conspiracy theories about facebook, are more true than you realize.

    I work for a company named Appen. We are a 3rd party freelance contract company. A few years ago facebook approached us with an offer. He couldn’t legally censor people on his platform because he plead to congress that he was an open forum. So, he uses several 3rd party companies to “Fact Check”, and otherwise censor, information.

    Justin Trudeau has been taking action in Canada, China, and America, to prepare us for the Great Reset, and by us, I refer to civilians. Part of this process is to work with Zuckerburg and Dorsey to restrict the flow of information, and to push the statutes of the Reset into peoples minds, repetition is the key here.

    We coordinate our efforts with a company in India, from our base in Canada, to provide our censorship services to Facebook. A lot of this information, you probably already guessed. But here’s what you might not have known

    We have specific directives on what to fact check and how to fact check. I’m going to list off a couple of these directives:

    1 ) First off, primarily conservative and right leaning posts on twitter and facebook make it to our service.

    2 ) Left leaning posts are to be ignored and never manually flagged, it doesnt matter if it violates ToS or even federal law. If facebook gets in trouble they blame us, and they can’t do anything because we’re not based in America, so we give the government the run around and nothing can be done. It’s worked so far.

    3 ) Zuckerburg created a program that feeds posts automatically into our service, it analyzes content in posts, searching for common images and lines of text, and if it matches any of our guidelines it gets automatically flagged and entered into our system to be “Fact Checked”. So we don’t just go looking for conservative posts, Zuckerburg sends them to us with his automatic program.

    4 ) If there are multiple ideas in a conservative post, only 1 of them needs to be potentially disputable. We are to flag an entire article as disputed/false/discredited/untrue/etc even if theres only 1 idea thats not completely confirmed.

    5 ) Even ideas that are confirmed, don’t matter unless its a left leaning idea. What this translates to is as long as we all push the same idea, what we say becomes truth. That’s standard psychology, and American’s are the easiest to manipulate with this. The only thing making it difficult is their Freedoms that are not common in most countries around the world, which forces us to deal with America in a different way.

    6 ) When we write articles for politico, nyt, etc we are allowed to mark a title or article as true as long as at least 3 of the core ideas in the article or post are potentially true. Keyword here is potentially, it can be completely false, but as long as we can cite a source that argues in our favor, we can confirm it 100% true. The inverse is also true, if we can find even 1 source that dictates something to be potentially false, we can mark the entire article/post.

    7 ) We write articles, and then cite our own articles as evidence. Check the fine print of each article, we always cite ourselves, but what you might not know, is that only a handful of companies are actually writing the articles for dozens of websites, news media, and mass media. This isn’t unique to America, we’ve done this in countries around the world for a very long time.

    8 ) We only allow members to join us if they pass a test, this test is an opinion based survey, however, they must answer all left leaning, or they are not allowed to join, we wont be diluted.

    9 ) This part I cannot confirm, but I am suspicious that China has more to do with this than just their involvement with Canada, but again, i can’t confirm that, thats just my personal theory because we’re not allowed to say anything negative in our business chats about China’s government.

    10 ) This is all preparation for the Great Reset, by getting Trump out, because he opposed the idea. Biden has agreed to go full on into it, which is why he’s been getting such a big hand from Facebook and Twitter, however, it’s much bigger than just that. In our new world order, we’ll control not just national news, but global news. By controlling the global narrative, we control what information you’re allowed to know and what you’re allowed to think.

    11 ) There are contingencies in place, Trump cannot win. We have members of Congress apart of this, and soon the President and VP.

    12 ) If a Civil War breaks out, it will be according to our plan. We hope for it, and we tried to use Race to spark it in America, if that doesnt work, ISIS is on stand by for when Biden is in office. This was determined along time ago, or so i’m told.

    13 ) I no longer work for this company. I registered with them using a fake identity. While I am afraid that they’ll find out, i’m hoping this post is just an obscure enough place to start leaking information without drawing too much attention too quickly. My hope is that this information gets out, but you cannot change whats already in place.

    14 ) I left because what they were doing was appalling to me. I can’t stand by and watch this happen. My original job was to consult with Walmart and Facebook on customer engagement and advertisement engagement, as well as website management. This isn’t what I signed up for. Now all the new recruits are immediately pushed into this Facebook fact checker conspiracy. It’s sickening.Ill say that facebook at least pays up, which is the only reason I think most of us were doing it this long. I’m under a very strict NDA, so I had to use a throw away account.

    15 ) You can’t change whats to come, but what you can do is get the message out to not just Americans, but everyone in every country that values Freedom. There are allies all over the world that are resisting this, especially in France and Australia. If you want to remain free, you have to hope that Trump can pull out a miracle, but i already know its not possible, trust me when I say, they’ll make sure people die before they let him get another 4 years. If that happens, Americans, do what you need to do to keep your country free. Protect yourselves.

    Note… personally, I have seen a video where Justin Trudeau talks about using the corona-virus as the excuse to do what he calls the Great Reset to Globalism. It’s hard to believe that we have so many traitors in our midst.

  18. 2020 November 20 9:43 am

    It burns me how the media can go around screaming “there is no evidence”. All they have to do is open their frick’n eyes and do no more math than add numbers.~~MPT

    The media is in on the scam, expect no help from that quarter. They are the fifth column.

  19. 2020 November 20 9:46 am

    “It’s hard to believe that we have so many traitors in our midst.”~~rand

    That is because they see themselves as patriots, not traitors.

  20. 2020 November 20 9:46 am
    justrand permalink

    Yesterday at the World Economic Forum, John Kerry said: “The notion of a reset is more important than ever before.”

    He then went on to say that a “great reset is urgently needed to stop the rise of populism.”

    “Populism” is a word that Left SPITS after saying. But what IS “populism”?
    populism [noun]: “support for the concerns of ordinary people.”

    The mask of giving even the smallest DAMN about “ordinary people” has been dropped completely. As has the assertion (except by the NYTimes, et al) that the Left/media/Dems pushing for a Great Reset is a “conspiracy theory”.

    Allow me to put the definition of “populism” together with Kerry’s statement:

    “A Great Reset is urgently needed to stop the rise of support for the concerns of ordinary people.”

    Feel better?

  21. 2020 November 20 9:59 am
    TLS permalink

    Excellent clip from the PA presser this morning. Strangely the most damaging actions done to Dominion so far appear to have been done by Dominion them shelves by trying to hide:

  22. 2020 November 20 11:43 am
    gnqanq permalink

    JR – #17 – There is an old saying, “If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans”. I once heard a navy seal say, that their plans went out the window after they got 5 minutes into a mission.

    Our most powerful weapon is PRAYER. God sits on his throne and nothing is allowed IF it is not part of his plan. We may not understand it, BUT his will, will be done.

    Continue to pray (that his will be done), prep and be ready to make some 2:00 AM wake up calls.

  23. 2020 November 20 12:09 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    JBoz: “either a) this is all an act of desperation on the part of Trump and his legal team, or b) the words of Giuliani, Powell and Wood are legit that they have an open-and-shut case”

    I’ll go with (b), open and shut case but the courts refuse to act and the media hides it all under a cloak of propaganda.
    There will be a solid chunk of the population who, having been paying attention, will be radicalized from here on out.

    mpt, 9, thanks for the link. I know a couple of folks who enjoy diving in head-first to details so I’ll pass it along to them.

  24. 2020 November 20 12:28 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    A piece of twitter that has some deep truth —

    Replying to
    Yep, and it’s gonna be an even bigger mistake to follow Trump down his path any longer. He’s either with us or he’s not. DNC weaker than it’s ever been, they dont know what to do without Trump, we gotta capitalize

    Trump hates to lose whether he is with us or not. With GA certified the road ahead is all Biden.

  25. 2020 November 20 12:51 pm
    Eph permalink

    26 DR

    Look for Trump to drop all lawsuits within days.

  26. 2020 November 20 12:53 pm
    Eph permalink

    The GA Senate races are going to be butt ugly too.

    No way I would vote in a special election next year.

  27. 2020 November 20 12:55 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    26, drdog
    I agree that there’s a great “martial arts” strategy of allowing the foe to appear to succeed. Let his momentum pull him forward, uncontrolled.
    So, I look forward to the time when we can say “OK, Trump is gone. So … how are you gonna fix Problem XYZ? Move past your hate, solve something!”

    Having said that, my opinion is that now is not the time to bail on Trump. Support him till Jan 20th or whatever. There’s plenty of time to become Teh Opposition. He stood by us, we should return the favor.

  28. 2020 November 20 1:06 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Not abandoning Trump at all. Fact I hope he starts up a news organization. If he does and goes public, I will buy stock whether I make a dime or not.

  29. 2020 November 20 1:08 pm
    Eph permalink


    No offense but starting a “news org” is not appoiniting federal judges.

    Ill pass on that option too

  30. 2020 November 20 1:18 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Unless GOP holds onto at least one judge out of GA it won’t be an option. Obama stayed in DC to CHA. That’s defense. Trump could start a news org to use to go on offense. Buy out CNN, AT&T wants to dump it cheap. Flush what is so called talent and bring in the RSBN and OAN crews in a merger.

  31. 2020 November 20 1:21 pm
    Eph permalink


    As it stands now looks like both GOP “judges” go down on Jan 5

    With extra cheat

  32. 2020 November 20 1:23 pm
    Eph permalink

    You really think ATT would sell to Trump??

    They would rather go bankrupt.

    Now that’s hate…

  33. 2020 November 20 1:49 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    In a heart beat my friend. Their whole “lets emulate Comcast” play was a disaster. Money talks.

  34. 2020 November 20 1:53 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    A note on mpt, 9 that I saw:

    Hinderacher wrote this about that yesterday:

    Here’s the problem: the townships and precincts listed in paragraphs 11 and 17 of the affidavit are not in Michigan. They are in Minnesota. Monticello, Albertville, Lake Lillian, Houston, Brownsville, Runeberg, Wolf Lake, Height of Land, Detroit Lakes, Frazee, Kandiyohi–these are all towns in Minnesota. I haven’t checked them all, but I checked a lot of them, and all locations listed in paragraphs 11 and 17 that I looked up are in Minnesota, with no corresponding township in Michigan. This would have been obvious to someone from this state, but Mr. Ramsland is a Texan and the lawyers are probably not natives of either Minnesota or Michigan.

  35. 2020 November 20 2:39 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    Yep. “who benefits?” Certainly isn’t the voter.

  36. 2020 November 20 2:47 pm
    bc3b permalink

    In Other News – The Cheerleaders and Fans Are Ready. Are You? Get Your Picks in Tonight:

    Here are Week 12 games. Bold or place an X next to the teams you think will win and return to bjgsports by 7 PM Friday night.

    Lots of competitive games this week:

    Iowa @ Penn State
    Virginia Tech @ Pitt
    Wake Forest @ Duke – Postponed
    East Carolina @ Temple
    Cincinnati @ Central Florida

    Coastal Carolina @ Appalachian State
    Navy @ South Florida – Postponed

    Missouri @ South Carolina
    Michigan State @ Maryland – Canceled
    Liberty @ NC State

    Michigan @ Rutgers
    Georgia Southern @ Army
    Southern Cal @ Utah
    Florida International @ Western Kentucky
    Rice @ North Texas

    California @ Oregon State
    Washington State @ Stanford
    San Jose State @ Fresno State – Canceled

    Texas – San Antonio @ Southern Mississippi
    San Diego State @ Nevada

    Houston @ SMU – Postponed
    LSU @ Arkansas
    Wisconsin @ Northwestern
    Oklahoma State @ Oklahoma
    Georgia State @ South Alabama

    Arkansas State @ Texas State

  37. 2020 November 20 2:53 pm
    bc3b permalink

    drdog09 #33 –


    Unless GOP holds onto at least one judge out of GA it won’t be an option. Obama stayed in DC to CHA. That’s defense. Trump could start a news org to use to go on offense. Buy out CNN, AT&T wants to dump it cheap. Flush what is so called talent and bring in the RSBN and OAN crews in a merger.

    If he bought CNN, Trump would lose his voice in the first 30 minutes saying, “You’re fired!”

  38. 2020 November 20 2:59 pm
    bc3b permalink

    JR #20 –

    In the early 20th century the Democrats thought populism was the greatest thing since the invention of Yuengling.

  39. 2020 November 20 4:14 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Saw this claim online. Haven’t checked but likely true.

    Miss Michigan
    BREAKING: Circuit Courts have been Reassigned

    Effective November 20, 2020, ordered pursuant to Title 28, United States Code, Section 42. Look who is in charge of MI, WI, PA, and GA:

    MI – Brett M. Kavanaugh
    WI – Amy Coney Barrett
    PA – Samuel A. Alito
    GA – Clarence Thomas

    The link doesn’t load for me, locks up.

  40. 2020 November 20 4:44 pm

    EPH 38


    These gelded GOP eunuchs with their diminutive peckers,
    Don’t give a crap if they are party wreckers,
    Turtle necked McConnell with his withered pud,
    Romney the rino chewing his cud,
    These lace pantied pussies that screw thee and me,
    To the dustbin of history may their futures be.
    The GOP and RNC is dead to me.

  41. 2020 November 20 4:53 pm
    drdog09 permalink

  42. 2020 November 20 4:57 pm
    Eph permalink

    44. IP

    That about sums it up

    Ill skip the ’22 midterms.

    Plague on all thier houses !!!

  43. 2020 November 20 4:58 pm
    drdog09 permalink

    BC, 41,

    Might be more fun, as Done Lemon sits down to do his show…. Greta Wall shows up and says “you’re in my seat, get the hell out.” Live on air.

  44. 2020 November 20 5:00 pm
    drdog09 permalink


    Don’t think that way Eph. Over the next two years the Biden team is going to screw up so much stuff that the GOPers will take over the House in droves. Don’t like the candidate, hate the damn opponent.

  45. 2020 November 20 5:00 pm

    May they all be afflicted with the with the fleas from a thousand camels armpits.

  46. 2020 November 20 5:05 pm

    the GOPers will take over the House in droves.~~mutley

    If they could stack the deck once and get away with it, they can do it again, and again, ad nauseum/infinitum.How many times do we have to be kicked in the balls by the likes of romney et al ,before we finally get the word? We ain’t welcome in the Gubmint of the people .

  47. 2020 November 20 5:12 pm
    Eph permalink

    50 IP

    Its not really about stacking the deck anymore

    Texas used to be a 20 point GOP smack down

    AZ, NC, and GA 10 points.


  48. 2020 November 20 5:15 pm

    We are being hung on the petard of demographics and illegal aliens. Kalifornicate is dumping their crap on the rest of us.

  49. 2020 November 20 5:19 pm
    justrand permalink

    IP: “Kalifornicate is dumping their crap on the rest of us”

    you mean like this worthless piece of shit??

  50. 2020 November 20 5:22 pm
    justrand permalink

    re. #48, 50, 51, 52

    Sadly, drdog,I am increasingly siding with IP and Eph…WBF. They will rig the 2022 elections even bigger than they did these! And Big Tech just MOONED Congress…with ZERO consequences. Hell, Big Tech OWNS Congress!!

    The Ministry of Truth will ensure the Democrats increase the Dem margins…and cheerlead Biden into PACKING the Supreme Court.

    Note to self: buy more ammo

  51. 2020 November 20 5:42 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    54, I hate to give up CA without a fight. And I’m not giving up yet. But if what you say comes about then we’ll need to concentrate in certain areas for survival … and there’s no way CA can make the cut.

  52. 2020 November 20 6:08 pm
    justrand permalink

    Jim, California the State is gone. Doesn’t mean I’m moving. 🙂

    Look at the map for Greater Idaho. What needs to happen is for people in that area to band together for mutual support.

    More to follow…

  53. 2020 November 20 6:17 pm
    justrand permalink

  54. 2020 November 20 6:24 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    Here’s a peek at why Wayne County refuses to certify the vote. . .

    a. When a voter’s name could not be found, the election worker assigned the ballot to a random name already in the QVF (voter file) of a person who had not voted. This is why when 17,000 people showed up to vote, they were told they had already voted!

    b. Election workers were instructed to not verify signatures on absentee ballots, and to backdate and process them even if not valid.

    c. After the last absentee ballots had been received, tens of thousands more arrived at the TCF Center unsecured and without envelopes. Every ballot was attributed only to Democrat candidates.

    d. Election workers were instructed to falsely report that these late, unsecured ballots had been received prior to the November 3, 2020 deadline.

    e. False information was entered to process invalid ballots, such as using made-up birthdays.

    f. On a daily basis leading up to the election, Democrat election workers and four Great Lakes Justice Center employees coached voters to vote a straight Democrat ticket. These same people stood with voters to watch them and instruct them how to vote.

    g. After poll challengers started discovering the fraud taking place at the TCF Center, Democrat officials and workers locked credentialed challengers out so they could not observe the process.

    h. Ballots were duplicated by hand and poll challengers were prohibited from observing.

  55. 2020 November 20 6:25 pm
    JimNorCal permalink

    Harmeet K. Dhillon
    A Kirkland & Ellis associate left a hateful/harassing voice message last week for the lead lawyer for the Trump campaign — campaign lawyer asked for sanctions but so far the court has done nothing on this. The Trump lawyer has had death threats, courtesy Lincoln Project doxing.

    Harmeet K. Dhillon
    Over 9,000 attorneys made contributions to Lincoln Project, including over $1k contributions from partners at 40 large firms… the money is used in part to attack and crowd-source harassment of attorneys representing clients in court, a protected constitutional act. Despicable.

  56. 2020 November 20 11:16 pm
    Wylie E. Coyote permalink

    #57 Your right about this….

    I get sick of people saying: Well I got plenty of guns and ammo, I will be fine….

    Wrong. By yourself, your just a target – an “example”

    We all can be picked off one at a time no matter how well we prepped or how isolated we thing we are.

    Read how the Soviet police “knocked on doors” and rounded up people for the gulag one at time while whole aparment buildings of people knew what was going on and stood by and did nothing. Alone, we die……organized, we have a chance to survive or at least make some of the b@st@rds pay for their lawless deeds

  57. 2020 November 21 2:06 am

  58. 2020 November 21 2:08 am

    60 – That firm has now stopped repping the State of PA over it now, still not sanctions.

  59. 2020 November 21 2:33 am
    JimNorCal permalink

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?
    Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?…
    The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
    If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

  60. 2020 November 21 6:20 am
    drdog09 permalink

    A little something I stumbled across — — The book that this is excerpted from was written in 1973.

  61. 2020 November 21 7:13 am
    drdog09 permalink

    Do you think it matters? — — Personally I don’t. Roberts was the one who probably made the assignment list and he is a squish. At best a lucky dice roll that itself may yield nothing.

  62. 2020 November 21 7:13 am
    justrand permalink

    A partial statement from Kory L. Honea, Sheriff-Coroner of Butte County (the county I live in).
    Emphasis added by me.

    There has been a considerable amount of concern regarding the restrictions imposed by the order, including whether law enforcement will be checking on homes or stopping drivers to ensure compliance.

    In these challenging times, there is a great deal of fear, anxiety and uncertainty within the community. I do not wish to compound those concerns by creating distrust and friction between residents and law enforcement.

    As both Sheriff and a citizen of Butte County, the thought of law enforcement officers

      peeking into the windows of homes,

    or stopping and questioning residents regarding their destination and family relationships, merely for being outside of their homes, or visiting the home of another during the nighttime hours, all solely due to the suspicion of violating the ‘Limited Stay at HomeOrder,’ is very troubling.

    As peace officers, we must always weigh the risks and benefits of enforcement action based on many factors. This is especially true given the evolving role of law enforcement in our society, along with a criminal justice system already strained by COVID-19 complications. I am concerned the negative impact on public trust, the high likelihood of escalation and the strain upon our limited law enforcement resources would far outweigh any benefit of enforcing such an order.

    Due to the potential infringement upon constitutionally protected activities, along with the lack of feasibility and practicality of enforcing such an order, I am directing my staff to not use a suspected violation of the newly-enacted ‘Limited Stay at Home Order’ as the basis for arrest, citation, detention or stop.

  63. 2020 November 21 7:16 am
    justrand permalink

    actually, this link gets it backwards…but still worth reading. The “revolt” started in the North, and is spreading South

  64. 2020 November 21 8:54 am

    mutley 67~~I would expect every one of them to rule against Trump, just to show their independence.

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